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August 2010
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Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Judaism and violence. When removing text, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the text has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Also, the article is about Judaism, not Christianity, there is no need to mention that some Christians believe in just warfare. Ian.thomson (talk) 02:17, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I am learning, slowly but surely, will post sourceful inflormation soon.Evengee (talk) 12:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

=Judaism = anti-violence, peace=

Judaism and religious Jews oppose violence
Jewish law (passed and present) does not permit any use of violence unless it is in self defense. Any person that even raises his hand in order to hit a nother person is called "evil." , within the context of Zionism, some diasagree with linking it.

Guidelines from the Torah to Tte Jewish Way to Fight a War: When the time for war has arrived, Jewish soldiers are expected to abide by specific laws and values when fighting. Jewish war ethics attempts to balance the value of maintaining human life with the necessity of fighting a war. Judaism is somewhat unique in that it demands adherence to Jewish values even while fighting a war. The Torah provides the following rules for how to fight a war. Pursue Peace Before Waging War. Preserve the Ecological Needs of the Environment. Maintain Sensitivity to Human Life. The Goal is Peace

The ancient orders (like those) of wars for Israel to eradicate idol worshipping does not apply today. Jews are not taught to glorify violence. The rabbis of the Talmud saw war as an avoidable evil. They thought, 'Thew sword comes to the world because of delay of justice and through perversion of justice.'Jews have always hated war and Shalom expresses the hope for peace, in Judaism war is evil, but at times a necessary one, yet, Judaism teaches that one has to go to great length to avoid it.

Foundation of Arab-Israeli conflict: Secular Zionists and Islamic leadership in Palestine
The middle east conflict, which began in the 1920's, is rooted in the two sides, on one hand, the Arab Muslim leader of Palestine, the former Mufti, Haj Amin Al-Husseini and on the other, the non-religious Zionists leadership between the 1920's-1940's. Secular Zionists were adamantly opposed to peace negotiation by religious Jews, Hagana's Abraham Tehomi)  assassinated the ultra religious Haredi close confidant of Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem Rabbi Y. Chayim Zonnenfeld, Rabbi Dr. Jacob Israël de Haan (on a Sabbath, as he walked out of the synagogue) who began negotiating peace with Arab leaders.

Why most Haredim (ultra ultra-orthodox) do not serve in Israel's army 1) According to Talmudic teaching, the very fact of taking someone's life, even when justly doing so, it effects, nevertheless the person, as the Talmud regards even e justly court that did order (in ancient times) the death penalty, that particular court at that time was labeled "killer court" in shame. 2) The hardship to keep religious piety and modesty in the overwhelming secularist environment that the IDF is (just as the overall Israeli society is). 3) The non-Zionism theme in mainstream Haredim.

Settlers - radical Zionists
The mainstream Jewish view concludes that "Rabin's assassin had no Halachic basis to shoot Prime Minister Rabin."

An eye for an eye
Judaism and Christianity, both stem from the Bible. In ideology, Judaism differes also from Christianity in some interpertation of the Bible, for example, "An eye for an eye", in Christianity is literal, in Judaism it refers to monetary compensation only.

=References= Evengee (talk) 16:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Original research
Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Christianity and Judaism, but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses novel, unpublished syntheses of previously published material. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your information. In particular, a statement must be wholly supported by a source. The source you provided for your addition "Christianity and Judaism" only supports half of the addition. Synthesis of sources (such as finding a source that says the Christian version of "eye for an eye" can only be literal, and then combining it with the Jewish Virtual Library source to support your adition) is considered original research as well. In essence, you need a source that comments on both the Christian and Jewish views of "eye for an eye," although it will likely eventually be countered with a source that points out that the Christian version continuing with the symbolism isn't the same as taking the symbolism literally. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)