User talk:EvergreenFir/Archive 21

Ronna McDonald
Hi hello. Listn to me. Vox.com is not a reliable source. It is partisan and a leftist news source. That shouldn't be allowed in a wikipedia article.
 * Please see WP:YESPOV and WP:RSP and consider going to WP:NPOVN with your concerns.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 19:39, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

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 * Replied  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 17:08, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!
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US bias
Don't ever post on my talkpage or ping me ever again (this includes handing out of ITN credits). You're obviously trying to WP:BAIT me with your responses at WP:ITNC. And I will not apologise for calling out a clear and obvious bias on ITNC if this is posted but the Copenhagen shooting is not. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:42, 4 July 2022 (UTC)


 * That is one of the odder messages I've received for a regular reply to a comment. I won't deny bias, but I do think the scale between Copenhagen and Highland Park makes both a quantitative and qualitative difference between the two. Perhaps you need a break though? Preemptively banning someone from communicating with you over one minor instance seems ... extreme.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 19:19, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * It did seem like you were trying to bait me, but if that wasn't the case, then I apologise. At least you're consistent, by supporting both events as notable, so maybe you weren't trying to be US-biased. Consider the ban rescinded. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:33, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

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Assassination of Shinzo Abe: Suspect Page
The external page was intended to replace the section on the main article, rather than to co-exist with it, so new information can be added easily as it comes to light. TheCessnaPilot (talk) 19:19, 10 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Still is counter to BLP1E  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 05:55, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

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Editing 'second americal civil war'
Kindly refrain from removing the edits i've made to the page which are a) minor b) give greater clarity about a previously out of context caption c) give references and links which clearly back the edits up. StarkGaryen (talk) 05:35, 12 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Please review WP:MINOREDIT as neither of your edits were "minor". I reverted primarily because of your inaccurate commentary about Stacey Abrams which was editorialization in the caption of a photo.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 15:48, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Please Hurry
And block [this user] as soon as possible. The reasons why should be obvious. Any behavior of mine unbecoming of Wikipedia I apologize in advance. $chnauzer 06:02, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * took care of it in a hurry. Bishonen &#124; tålk 08:19, 15 July 2022 (UTC).
 * @Crboyer, @Bishonen - Thank you both. I'll REVDEL some of those too.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 16:05, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Short site blocks kill long page blocks (Bugzilla has been informed)
Hi, Evergreen. When you blocked the big range 2409:4071::/33 for 48 hours (and also for a week..?) on 17 June, did you mean to shorten LuK3's and NinjaRobotPirate's longer page blocks? Because, in practice, that happened. I'm planning to block the range from the article Sanskrit, myself. Would it be allright if I restored the earlier page blocks also? Bishonen &#124; tålk 08:15, 15 July 2022 (UTC).
 * PS, I meant to link this. Bishonen &#124; tålk 08:20, 15 July 2022 (UTC).
 * @Bishonen I did not mean to shorten those page blocks. Is there a way to do a shorter site block as well as a longer page block? And yes, please do feel free to restore them. Sorry about that.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 16:07, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. No, it seems there's no way. Bugzilla was indeed consulted, and per the grapevine, she let it be understood that the whole partial block system would have to be ripped to shreds and started afresh to accomplish such a thing, and they're not gonna. That's what I heard. Bishonen &#124; tålk 19:14, 15 July 2022 (UTC).
 * Sister Bugzilla still good friend! bishzilla   ROA R R! ! pocket 19:16, 15 July 2022 (UTC).
 * Hm... okay, well, that's good to know. I'll keep an eye our for p-blocked IPs before I site block them. Thanks!  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 19:32, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

DISNEY OWNED SABAN ASSETS
Saban company is defunct now. All Saban assets owned by The Walt Disney Company and I want to Edit Infobox information with Current Distributor DISNEY PLATFORM DISTRIBUTION.

Because the Saban Assets not stream on Disney+ and who wants to watch any Saban show again must be stucking of the company infos and won't want from Disney+.

I'm sorry but original distributor rule is totally useless. I want an exception for Disney owned Saban assets. Because I'm trying to makin digital tracking. American Copyright Office website not give to anychance for sharing links. Can I share DVD Notices or not edited screenshot from the American copyright office website? How can I give current ownership information for TV Shows? Can you help me? Extormophie Exolus (talk) 22:03, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Extormophie Exolus - Template:Infobox_television makes it clear that the parameter is for the original distributor. The purpose of Wikipedia is not to provide a TV guide or "digital tracking" but rather to document things as they are or were. In the case of a former TV series, we document it as it was.
 * If you want to change this standard practice, go to WT:TV or WP:VP.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 01:55, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Your AN close
I support it, but perhaps you didn't see the block request, which imo should have been left open. You know more than me anyway, so please lmk if i'm misguided. Thanks — VersaceSpace  🌃 04:41, 16 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Wait, I didn't read the second sentence of your close. I still think it should've been up to community consensus but again you know much more than me. Thanks — VersaceSpace  🌃 04:43, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * If someone wants to open it back up, they can and are welcome to.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 04:44, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Resumption of disruptive editing by a previously blocked IP(?)
I think you might want to take a look again at the edits of 98.149.220.34. I do not think that all of their edits are disruptive per se; it seems that most of them are changing the formatting in articles to American English and the mdy date format (citing MOS:RETAIN often). A little odd to seemingly have one purpose, but not necessarily disruptive (it's similar to edits I make myself, actually). What is odd, however, is their editing spree which started on 12 July.

Their edits, often simple changes, have very bizarre edit summaries which read more like social media comments. A lot of the edits are also made for sole purpose of making a long comment (mini rant) and are immediately reverted by themselves afterwards. They also wrote a non-sensical rant on their talk page before it was blanked by another editor. Also worth noting that they promised to "leave Wikipedia" after their previous block, but instead they just edited other users' comments, their own unblock request, and then blanked their talk page.

I left a comment on their talk page about their edit summary behaviour and hopefully they'll give more constructive comments now. If not, they're not really communicating but making edits and reverts accompanied by mini rants, and I would doubt if they're really here to build an encyclopedia. Regardless, considering their behaviour on Wikipedia as a whole, I personally think it would be better for them if they were permanently blocked, since they're wasting their own time obsessively writing non-sensical comments on the site every few days (in six-day intervals, to be exact). Yue 🌙 07:59, 16 July 2022 (UTC) _____

1. I'm sorry for using sarcastic sense of humor as others, and I promise not to write like this again as it's not professional. However: I was going to be kind and let it slide, as I am a respectful person. However, as an experienced user (since 2015), I'm sure he knows perfectly know what the rules are/what he's doing here: He has apparently undid many formats MANY times, only to insert his own format later in contrary of both wiki policy AND local usage.

"Hello there! For articles about non-English speaking nations or cultures, please do not randomly and unilaterally switch mdy date format to dmy format !!!just because you like it better" and "Similarly, see MOS:STYLERET: "enforcing optional style in a bot-like fashion without prior consensus is never acceptable." --2022, March https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yue/Archive_5#Date_format

And "Hi, just to let you know that changing date formats in citations to suit your preferences is not allowed, see WP:CITEVAR for the policy." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yue/Archive_3#Date_format I was reverting his THIRD, random change of an article that had been at the same date format for ten YEARS. He did not even give ANY reason for his change in edit summary, etc. Now THAT is true disruptive editing.

1. I'm sorry for using sarcastic sense of humor as others, and I promise not to write like this again as it's not professional. However: Mr. Yue was warned many times not to make sudden, forced changes.

"Hello there! For articles about non-English speaking nations or cultures, please do not randomly and unilaterally switch mdy date format to dmy format !!!just because you like it better" and "Similarly, see MOS:STYLERET: "enforcing optional style in a bot-like fashion without prior consensus is never acceptable." --2022, March I was going to be kind and let it slide. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yue/Archive_5#Date_format

Furthermore, he's done it on articles such as this: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Day_of_the_Republic_of_China&type=revision&diff=883736616&oldid=869838077 Removed the engvar tag/replacing date fofrmats WITHOUT appealing to wiki policies like RETAIN, poststub, TIES (local usage) etc OR citing ANY reason in edit summary: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Day_of_the_Republic_of_China&type=revision&diff=988210260&oldid=983103561

RE: His personal accusations: I chose to blank the talk page because other admins said I have the right to do so, and that's part of my promise to leave. Last time, when I was new to wiki, I ignorantly "edited" that other person's comment with academic sources I cited because I was ignorant of wiki policies/saw that they were missing academic context.

I immediately heeded the experienced user's warnings/citing of (100s of pages long policy) and did not do it again/apologized immediately.

I personally think it would be better for this serial vandal to be blocked for quite a longer period of time because he is very experienced (been here many years), unlike me, a new user whose goal (was) to share sarcastic opinions and edit glaring, algorithm boosted mistakes (I dislike Google for this) before leaving. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.149.220.34 (talk) 17:03, 16 July 2022 (UTC)


 * I blocked the IP for three months; we don't generally do "permanent" (indefinite) blocks for IP addresses since they tend to be reassigned after a while. Please feel free to reach out to me if the issues resume. --Blablubbs (talk) 17:22, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Translation request
Please, can you help me to translate these pages from Japanese to English: Ise Yoshimori, Kataoka Tsuneharu, Kamei Shigekiyo, Suruga Jirō, Washio Yoshihisa, Bizen Heishirō, Karasumaru family. The last one is about a Japanese noble family, while the all others are Yoshitsune's servants and are very important even because they appeared in many tv series or movies. Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.16.244.127 (talk) 10:59, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I wanted to do it myself, but the translations from Japanese to English are too hard for me. Please, can you do it for me? I wait an answer from you. Thank you very much.

Yoshitsune (TV series)
Please, can you help me to find if Inoue Hachiro (井家八郎) from Ataka checkpoint in episode 47 was a real-life person or a fictional character? Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.16.244.127 (talk) 11:13, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

The Wow! Wow! Wubbzy! page
Hey, I was actually trying to revert vandalism on that page, instead of adding vandalism. TempoaryAcc (talk) 10:16, 17 July 2022 (UTC)


 * You appear to have been restoring old and incorrect content as well as removing the protection template.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 17:24, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Edit on Anti Racism page
Can you please explain to me why you reverted my edit? Have a good day. Dimensions-of-reality (talk) 11:53, 17 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Dimensions-of-reality A lot of it was tangential to race (WP:COATRACK) and not about "anti racism" per se. The size of the content was WP:UNDUE and connecting most of it to anti racism is original research.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 17:28, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for explaining. I'll be careful with these things now. Dimensions-of-reality (talk) 14:57, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

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The Nicholas Leonicus Thomaeus article
Hi. You blocked a New Jersey IP for making disruptive edits there. Now another New Jersey IP is making the same edit. The New Jersey IPs are obvious socks of User:Deucalionite who has been disrupting the article with IPs and confirmed sock accounts for years. Can you put semi-protection on the article for some time? Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:05, 29 June 2022 (UTC)


 * You just lost the argument User:Sulmues. 72.90.175.221 (talk) 21:08, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ktrimi991 Done and a partial block for the /16 range  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 21:08, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, much appreciated. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:11, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
 * After the semi-protection expired, an IP (obviously a sock of Deucalionite again) disrupted the article. Can you do sth to prevent further disruption? Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 11:58, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * If it continues I will. 1 edit 6 days after the page protection expired isn't enough to redo the protection. Let me know if it continues  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 18:39, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Agreed, a single edit does not justify semi-protection. I will tell you if the IPs insist. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 10:31, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The article continues to see disruption. Can you take a look again? Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:15, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ktrimi991 I've re-protected the page. Thanks for the notification.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 20:24, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks again. Ktrimi991 (talk) 07:41, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Your administrator actions on Patrick Lancaster
Please can you explain these administrator actions ? I did not re-add the contentious propagandist claim when re-adding the Zaborona source. The use of the Zaborona source has been disputed only for establishing the notability of the subject, not the benign matters, like what he is known for. IntrepidContributor (talk) 19:57, 13 July 2022 (UTC)


 * The issue was "Pro-Russian" and that Zaborona does not appear to be a reliable source. I took a look and cannot find any list of editors or indication of editorial oversight. You can start a discussion at WP:RSN if you would like others' input on the matter.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 20:06, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * EvergreenFir, I have a friend who is an admin on the Russian Wikipedia and he says you should not be doing administrator actions if you have a point of view on the reliability of the source. Are you aware of this policy? IntrepidContributor (talk) 17:36, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * And I already posted to the RSN noticeboard: Reliable_sources/Noticeboard. Please can you post your concerns there about editorial oversight instead of doing administrator actions? Thank you. IntrepidContributor (talk) 17:40, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I agree with your friend. If a source is not solidly reliable, it is appropriate to use admin actions to preserve WP:BLP. The reverse would be a problem... if I thought a WP:QUESTIONABLE source was perfectly okay to use on a BLP and then used my admin status to force the issue.
 * I will post on RSN. Thanks for pointing it out.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 17:47, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure who is right but the article is now deleted because it lacked the sources for notability, like the Zaborona source you deleted. This was not a good admin action because there are many articles about living pro-Russian propagandists on Wikipedia. Please give me a copy of the deleted article so I can translate it into Russian. IntrepidContributor (talk) 18:01, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Request copy of deleted page for translation into Russian. IntrepidContributor (talk) 19:55, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * @IntrepidContributor please see User:EvergreenFir/sandbox3 for the syntax of the most recent version  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 20:05, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

July 2022
A user has started doing disruptive edits again. I added him warnings but he keeps on ignoring so can you block him please? 82.37.139.114 (talk) 09:14, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

I just discovered that other uses are adding Arabic adaptations on the Universal Content Productions article. It reverted their edits but they keep readding it so can you block them for this please? 82.37.139.114 (talk) 19:13, 22 July 2022 (UTC)


 * I will semi-protect the page  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 19:40, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

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Osaka Castle
There is the story about gold steal from this castle by Kajisuke (梶助) in 1740. Please, can you write the complete story from a translation of these Japanese sites: 1, 2, 3. Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.5.238.181 (talk) 07:51, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

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Just a note
I wanted to let you know that the user you describe at User:EvergreenFir/socks is WP:LTA/HT. wizzito &#124;  say hello!  05:53, 28 July 2022 (UTC)


 * P.S. I do not think that the 2601 IPv6 range listed is them. wizzito  &#124;  say hello!  05:56, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that info! I'll add a link to the LTA page.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 15:00, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

User:Historiador1993
Hello, do you think you could take a look at this incivil and disruptive SPA account, ? They've already received multiple warnings on their talk page for edit-warring. Yesterday, an editor told them that the image they're trying to add is copyrighted (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Generations_2021.jpg), but even after that comment, just now, the user is still trying to edit-war that image back in with no explanation. This makes me think that they're just here to POV push instead of edit constructively with others. Some1 (talk) 00:51, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

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What is a personal attack
Hi, I've noticed you reverted a removal of a personal attack from a talk page. Could you explain why you consider it not to be a personal attack? My understanding of WP:NPA is that a personal attack is defined as a comment on contributor rather the content, which the removed wording was (comment on the date when I registered in Wikipedia). I'm new to Wikipedia and would appreciate if you could explain how this policy applies and what my understanding of it missing. Many thanks. PaulT2022 (talk) 00:04, 31 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @PaulT2022 - WP:WIAPA explains it pretty clearly. An editor referring to another as a "two month old account" is not pejorative enough to warrant using RPA. Minor incivilities and petty slights are not grounds for refactoring.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 00:20, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

"Mikemikev vibes"
I'm wondering if you have any insight into how to handle the new account you described as having "Mikemikev vibes". I agree that the same level of gaslighting and time wasting behavior is there, but I don't yet see a slam-dunk case. This account continues to taunt the community both with their username and now on their talk page. They have also dared us to run CU, which suggests that they understand how to effectively mask their online identity. Meanwhile, the list of edits which will inevitably need to be rolled back is growing long. If you have any additional insight to offer, please feel free let me know either on wiki or by email. I will be happy to put together the SPI if I find a strong case. Thanks, Generalrelative (talk) 15:22, 31 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, I don't have any specific thing I can point to, just context. The race-related pages, the language, odd edits like on a user's talk page who last edited nearly a year ago...  probably knows MMV the best.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 18:32, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I don’t think so. The humor for instance isn’t typical. Doug Weller  talk 19:22, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much to you both. I was immediately struck by the similarity with suspected Mikemikev sock User:DuskDuck, which had "Quack Quack" on its user page alongside an image of a rubber duck (a kind of humor I suppose) but I'll defer to your judgement. If there's nothing to be done for the time being I'll concentrate on other things. Best, Generalrelative (talk) 19:54, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

JWST and the Big Bang
The IP editor to whom you replied at Talk:Big Bang has a history of Big Bang denial; see here and before that here. The same person, editing from a slightly different IP, has been blocked for edit-warring in the past. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 00:40, 1 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @XOR'easter Thank you. I looked into their history a bit more and they certainly have a perseveration on this topic. That, and they immediately resumed disruption after a 3 month block expired.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 01:47, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Twisting an article that's full of statements about galaxies appearing as they did just a few hundred million years after the Big Bang into a supposed debunking of the Big Bang is ... certainly an intriguing rhetorical move. I'd call it surprising, but they treated textbooks on quantum mechanics the same way. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 02:07, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

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Jessica Matten
I see the editor determined to denigrate her wants the article protected. I think the only solution though is simply to, at least, give him an indefinite partial block from the article at least. Ah, strike that, look at his first edit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/JamesManderberg where his text addition adds material not in the source. Clueless and on a mission. I could take him to ANI as I can't indef him, or you could. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 06:21, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Doug Weller feel free. I'm falling asleep atm  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 06:41, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I sympathise. Hope you are asleep now! Happens to me too often, discover a problem just before I go to sleep! Doug Weller  talk 07:13, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

August 2022
The other user is adding Arabic remakes on some articles again. I removed them but he keeps adding it back so can you block him for this? 82.37.139.114 (talk) 17:41, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Nihari and others
Hi there can you kindly protect that article ? That account won't stop unless the article is protected on Noon Chai they are randomly adding India to location when the source states Kashmir region not India and Wazwan is a dish eaten throughout the Kashmir region the territory is disputed and they just want India to lay claim over the food due to nationalist motives. TruthHurts00 (talk) 20:29, 6 August 2022 (UTC)


 * let me take a look... I know it's catnip for nationalist editors.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 21:01, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

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 * Why thank you! :)  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 22:20, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * As I've just mentioned you in passing at another RfA, I knew you'd make a good admin, despite the opposition at your RfA. Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  18:18, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I greatly appreciate your support then and now :) hope things are going well for you  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 05:26, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Anne Heche death
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I added a source
Are you blind? I just added a source to Olivia Newton-John. CAROLlNE (talk) 19:34, 8 August 2022 (UTC)


 * possibly... I didn't see any source  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 19:35, 8 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Maybe you should look and access a page before reverting in future then. Regards.CAROLlNE (talk) 19:38, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I think the problem here, is that the source given, myfox8.com, is not recognised as a particularly trustworthy source for the biographies of living (or recently deceased) persons. In any case, Olivia Newton-John's death has been reported in all major news outlets, so this point is moot. It is possible EvergreenFir simply made a mistake - please assume good faith. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  18:20, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the kind words, Ritchie333.
 * For the record on CAROLINE's comment, news outlets hadn't yet reported on her death. It was 30ish minutes after the FB post announcing it.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 05:25, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * You should see some of the archived discussions on Talk:Tom Petty (tl;dr - he was pronounced dead, then it was announced he was legally alive but on life support, then pronounced dead again - if it wasn't a tragic death of a much respected musical artist, it would be something out of a Monty Python sketch....) where I think a mild outbreak of accidental wheel-warring went on due to the rapid fire actions of many editors on the article. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  22:35, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Many thanks, Ritchie333. I'm just logging back in after being pulled into a buncha meetings. I hope no one was WP:WHEEL warring between admins; I did not use my tools at all as I was WP:INVOLVED in the dispute. I was cautious of 3RR too. I'll need to go look at the edit history.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 01:50, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

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175.39.56.1 vandalizing on their talk page
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August 2022
HBO did produced shows and why would you remove the category i added. I'm asking you nicely don't make an edit war with me. I'm telling you nicely not to, okay? 82.37.139.114 (talk) 17:07, 26 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Saying "don't make an edit war with me" is not the correct approach here. You appear to be adding HBO to shows that HBO did not produce. In some cases, they aired it or distributed it.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 17:09, 26 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Yes I know, but I'm just saying you nicely to stop removing the category on some HBO show articles because i added HBO to most shows that are co-produced or produced by them. 82.37.139.114 (talk) 17:12, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

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Hi! I saw you on a list of Japanese to English translators and I was wondering if you could translate the page for this Japanese VOCALOID musician who I really like.

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%92%8C%E7%94%B0%E3%81%9F%E3%81%91%E3%81%82%E3%81%8D

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September 2022
Receiving edits on the Talk page protected by Discretionary sanctions at 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine from IntrepidContributor, whom you previously contacted on his Talk page, and who seems to have multiple accounts which he does not identify on his Talk page or User page. He is also in touch with User:666hopedieslast on his Talk page, who also apparently has multiple accounts and does not identify his other accounts. Is this a coincidence. User Intrepid has received questions on this from on his Talk page, while User:666hopedieslast has received inquiries from  on the 666hope Talk page. Does this happen often at Wikipedia? ErnestKrause (talk) 18:01, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * , IntrepidContributor was found to be unrelated to 666hopedieslast, see . If he's not a new user I don't think they're the same one. 666hopedieslast I suspect has socks though - he certainly was not a new user and has vanished since I brought him to SPI twice (without result, unfortunately).--Ermenrich (talk) 18:17, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @ErnestKrause It happens rather often, though we must assume good faith. As @Ermenrich mentioned, the results of the sockpuppet investigation did not find evidence that those two accounts were connected.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 18:22, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for getting back on this. At this moment, User:Intrepid appears to be upset about his co-editor Jinka having been blocked yesterday and lashing out at various editors on the Talk page at 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. He seems to be making a target of Ermenrich, Rosguill and myself. His negative comments almost seem like borderline personal attacks. Should this be a concern regarding his edit habits at the Talk page there and elsewhere? ErnestKrause (talk) 10:46, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

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An IP
Six months and two days ago you blocked an IP 6 months for block evasion; today they've returned. (If there's somewhere more appropriate to point this out, please point me in the right direction.) Thanks, JBL (talk) 20:30, 10 September 2022 (UTC)


 * While I was typing my first message, from a different IP.  --JBL (talk) 20:31, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks! JBL (talk) 18:09, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

yea so what 3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.173.2.48 (talk) 20:37, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

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Albwiki001
Hello EvergreenFir.

A user removed content from Sali Berisha and mentioned a discussion on the talk page. After reviewing the discussion, and the user's talk page, it seems you made it very clear to them the content was allowed. They've returned, after their ban and the page protection expired, and. I've reverted their edit, but I wanted to let you know since you told them it was their final warning. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:41, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads up, Hey man im josh  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 15:51, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive
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Return of the conspiracist IP
An IP editor you blocked at the beginning of August is back on the same topics. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 22:00, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Yeesh... some people need hobbies. Thanks for the heads up. I've reblocked the IP.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 23:50, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

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Vexatious?
I'm really surprised and disappointed in that comment. If you care, maybe have a closer look at the history of that users conduct with respect to that page and related topic matter. Prevention is what's needed. Nobody cares about punishment, for heaven's sake.<b style="color: #0011FF;"> SPECIFICO</b> talk 23:51, 28 September 2022 (UTC)


 * That's why I asked another admin to close it. If there's longer term issues, AE or ANI are the better venues. In this case of edit warring, I don't see anything actionable.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 01:16, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I didn't launch that thread. But as you know, if Ernie's view were righteous and pure, he would have laid back and let one of the many other editors do the second revert there. Yes, his behavior appears vexatious, but the whole thing should have been reported to AE rather than EW. Thanks for your reply.<b style="color: #0011FF;"> SPECIFICO</b> talk 02:27, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, he should have self-reverted and waited. I agree with you there.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 02:53, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

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==Discussion at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cyber_Anakin#A_mountain_out_of_molehill? Talk:Cyber Anakin#A mountain out of molehill?] and Talk:Cyber Anakin#Starting_over==

You are invited to join the discussion at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cyber_Anakin#A_mountain_out_of_molehill? Talk:Cyber Anakin § A mountain out of molehill?] and Talk:Cyber Anakin#Starting_over. 45.164.14.214 (talk) 16:03, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

RE Taiwan News
After taking a peak at the talk history I think those "random" socks are Waskerton and Lieutenant of Melkor fighting again. Look at 2020 in the edit history for the same BS. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 04:56, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Same for the post below this one... Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 16:06, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

User talk:NormaJeanGrey
Heads up...I think talk page access needs to be revoked they continue to create the Bishop article there and attack other editors. Theroadislong (talk) 07:10, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

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There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. ✗ plicit  04:02, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

RT
I'm about to remove your warning, and see from your home page you're an admin, but will advise you I've read many rules (not all) and you're now involved in a dispute. I believe I inserted nothing wrong. Would you like to explain why you reverted FOUR consecutive edits but only took issue with the lede change I made? No Fake News Allowed (talk) 16:40, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @No Fake News Allowed Warning a user about their disruptive behavior does not make me WP:INVOLVED.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 16:41, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * BS. It was NOT "disruptive" any what way. Every time I have touched the article has been in good faith, and every time someone has made an objection, I have (eventually) walked away. Linking languages is NOT disruptive. Linking meticulous article targets is NOT disruptive. Stating that a common name is not "former" when people use it is NOT disruptive. And removing a foreign language name as I did (the Russian into English standard) may require a consensus I agree, but it is NOT disruptive. I was wrong to promote deletion the way that I did, granted, but i have LONG stood back. And you didn't answer why you reverted a batch of good faith edits and not just the one that you think was wrong. No Fake News Allowed (talk) 16:45, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

How is my contribution for the Mighty Machines wiki page unsourced?
I checked every Mighty Machines episode for who is credited for voiceovers, all of the info below is correct, how is that unsourced? Season 1: Loredana Cunti, Tim Brown, Jennifer Martin, Noah Segal, Joel Cohen, Greg Blanchard, Gord Rutherford, Claire Rothman, Arthur Holden, John Metcalfe, Steve Murphy Season 2: Edward Daranyi, Santo Lupo, Christopher Quinn, Patte Rosebank, Tanya Schneider, Chuck Vollmar, Alan Bacchus, Suzanne Hersh, Oliver Svendsen, Hannah Cheesman Season 3: Chris Quinn, Kim Godfrey, Shawn Colin, Todd Schick, Dave Crichton, Blair Bailey, Nick Tracey, Colin Kirley, Suzanne Hersh, Wesley Cudlip, Bill Freeman, Derek Pert, Joe Pillitteri, Chandra Wohleber 173.206.238.20 (talk) 01:18, 9 October 2022 (UTC)


 * How can I (or anyone) WP:Verify this info?  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 06:03, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

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 * @Dreamy Jazz Thank you  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 22:31, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

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WP:LTA/HT
Right off their block at Special:Contributions/Don't worry i didn't get hurt and. wizzito &#124;  say hello!  03:38, 24 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Wizzito looks like took care of it. Thanks for reporting  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 03:47, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I went to AIV. wizzito  &#124;  say hello!  03:48, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
 * That's what I saw—Thx for reporting. Drmies (talk) 04:06, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

October 2022
Vidpro23 has removed most content on the List of Fremantle productions and List of MGM Television programs articles. I reverted his edits because his edits were unexplained removal of content, so could you block that user? 82.37.139.114 (talk) 12:15, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

That user called Vidpro23 is still added unsourced content on the same two articles. I gave him warnings but keeps doing it all over so could you please block him for this? 213.107.48.144 (talk) 19:35, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

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You’re a unification church fundamentalists
You’re a unification church fundamentalists 2001:579:925C:660:E4CD:2CEF:2CE5:343A (talk) 06:53, 20 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Fundamelists? EvergreenFir isn't a human - they're obviously three martians in a trenchcoat. We've been played all along... damn played!! WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 10:58, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I have no idea if this is the same person who sent me a message about "Martians", but at least their nonsense was deleted. P.S.: cannot believe someone who assumed EvergreenFir was a unification church fundamelists [sic] cannot even tell I was joking. WannurSyafiqah74 (talk) 15:38, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

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I wanted to add a reference to the source discussed on the Talk page, however the article is protected. What are my options? Do I need to establish an account? Or can i aska fellow editor for help? Not sure what the protocol is.... 2600:1012:B024:5659:85D5:10BE:9E8F:3A7B (talk) 22:46, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * You can make an WP:EDITREQUEST on the talk page. Making an account may help, but WP:SEMI-protected articles require WP:CONFIRMED accounts to edit.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 05:50, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

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Emailed you
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Reversion at George Floyd
Thanks for deleting that offensive material. Is there something I can do beyond reverting that kind of thing? What's the best way to get attention from someone with privileges to redact and block? ThanksLarataguera (talk) 22:26, 18 November 2022 (UTC)


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 * Thank you for reverting that edit!  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 22:44, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Suidlanders
Hey, I see you protected Suidlanders at the end of March and wanted to let you know that the vandal(s) have noticed it's no longer protected. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 15:22, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

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self explanation
i was not aware that this term is now beyond the pale. thank you for removing it, i will rephrase and re-add it another day. happy Thanksgiving. :) .usarnamechoice (talk) 17:34, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

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thank you for blocking 114.122.143.223
I have undone some of their reverts, but more to do. They do not appear here to build and encyclopedia. Matilda Maniac (talk) 07:12, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Disable TPA
Could you disable the TPA of 168.184.83.186? Also I think the block should be extended since they admitted to sockpuppetry and made a legal threat. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 17:45, 6 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Done!  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 17:45, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

December 2022
Hello, The other IP users keep bringing back the American company Universal Content Productions on the Arabic adaptation section of the American show Girlfriends' Guide to Divorce even though the sources doesn't mention Universal Content Productions it only said S Production the Arabic company producing it. Could you please block the Universal Content Productions article and the Girlfriends' Guide to Divorce article so no one could disrupt it again? 86.15.93.32 (talk) 16:54, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Josh Hawley
PP? Doug Weller  talk 08:11, 11 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Lamest edit war ever, blocked both from the article for a week. Doug Weller  talk 09:57, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Right? I was a bit baffled that the edit war was over wikilinks. Sounds like a good block, thank you.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 18:56, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * No problem. Much better than protection. Doug Weller  talk 19:03, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Smiling Friends and Vandalism
We may need another protection at Smiling Friends. I'm seeing a bunch of vandalism over there. SniperReverter (Talk to me and | what I've done) 16:58, 12 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Done!  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 17:57, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

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LTA?
A couple years ago you blocked for a year, citing NOTHERE and calling them an LTA. Presumably this was due to disruptive edits regarding racism and anti-racism. Their edits just before the block were removing anti-racism cats (eg 1, 2). Recent edits from that same range have been matching that old pattern, I think: I know this is some stale stuff, but do you recall which LTA you identified, and is this them? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:37, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

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Language Usage
Hi. In at ANI you used a phrase i'm not familiar with; is "weak sauce nonsense" a regular idiom i've not come across before, or is it simply you putting together some cool words? Happy days ~ LindsayHello 23:59, 16 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @LindsayH - Thank you for asking! Weak sauce is a bit outdated, but means "unimpressive", similar to lame. I do no know if they are related, but it's the antonym of awesome sauce. Here are some sources that may help: Urban Dictionary, Merriam-Webster.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 00:12, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Ha! A bit outdated ~ i should have been aware of it then!  "Awesome sauce" i've come across, always simply assuming it was because of the repeated "aw/au" and "s/c" sounds.  Never imagined that there was an opposite; i love to learn every day (as don't we all?), so thank you for today's lesson!  Happy days ~ LindsayHello 07:58, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Banabakabiroshitha engaging in synthesis vandalism again
Banabakabiroshitha readded his previous vandalism you warned him against and is now engaging in synthesizing and doing his own original research by mixing two different citations to form his own conclusion.

The section on Aisin Gioro is about a specific subclade of C-M48 carried by Manchus called C3b2b1*-M401(xF5483), not the entire broader C-M48 haplogroup which has other subclades but he's vandalizing and synthesizing two different sources together to make it seem as though Han carry a Manchu subclade, probably pushing an ethnic nationalist agenda against other people. The citaton he added about a haplogroup found in Han Chinese from Liaoning to Gansu is not talking about the specific subclade C3b2b1*-M401(xF5483) found in Manchus but is talking about another subclade of the broader C-M48 clade.

The reference he added is an article called "The genetic legacy of the Mongols" talking about a Mongol subclade earlier attributed to Genghis Khan and Mongols found in Hazaras, Uzbeks and Uyghurs and not the newer C3b2b1*-M401(xF5483) subclade which doesn't include Hazaras, Uzbeks, Uyghurs.

His first edit also undid fixes I made (seperating 2 different genetic studies which clash which each other, "Recent Spread of a Y-Chromosomal Lineage in Northern China and Mongolia" which is about the subclade C3b2a-M48 found into 10 different ethnic minorities (1.5 million men) and "Y chromosome of Aisin Gioro, the imperial house of the Qing dynasty" which is about the rare C3b2b1*-M401(xF5483) subclade which is not common among any ethnicity at all).

Recent Spread of a Y-Chromosomal Lineage in Northern China and Mongolia. (This is about C3b2a-M48 aka the "Manchu cluster" found in 10 ethnic minorities but not in Han)

Y chromosome of Aisin Gioro, the imperial house of the Qing dynasty. (This is about C3b2b1*-M401(xF5483) aka the actual haplogroup of Aisin Gioro which is rare in all ethnic groups. This genetic study exliplicitly denounces and debunks the previous genetic study above and says the "Manchu cluster" C3b2a-M48 is not the chromosome of Aisin Gioro)

The genetic legacy of the Mongols. (This is about the star cluster subclade of C-M48 which was attributed to Genghis Khan and Mongols, has nothing to do with Aisin Gioro and which Banabakabiroshitha is using to claim Han in Gansu and Liaoning carry Aisin Gioro y dna.

So Banabakabiroshitha is in effect synthesizing three different citations into his own wrong conclusion. He's conflating the rare Aisin Gioro C3b2b1*-M401(xF5483) clade with the C3b2a-M48 subclade found in 10 ethnic minorities and then conflating that with the Genghis Khan specific star cluster subclade of C-M48 found in Gansu and Inner Mongolia.Atsbi (talk) 17:08, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * He is vandalizing the article again https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Haplogroup_C-M217&diff=1127965259&oldid=1127895237 Atsbi (talk) 17:20, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Ok
I will provide Aman131027 (talk) 07:12, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

I have send
You can check in ur mail Aman131027 (talk) 07:23, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello why you edited my page ?
Please add special episodes list Aman131027 (talk) 07:09, 18 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Aman131027, please provide a source  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 07:10, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Provided Aman131027 (talk) 16:27, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Unprotection
Hello, Evergreenfir.

Can you please make the Little Einsteins page unprotected? The spelling of Annie’s voice actress is incorrect; there is no “C” after the “I” in “Wojcik”. Jason Feiner (talk) 00:24, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * You may request changes to a protected article by posting on the article's Talk page. I have already corrected this particular issue. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization <i style="color: #000666;">Talk </i> 00:46, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, Annie’s shoes in Season 1 are actually pink and white, not MAGENTA and white. There should be no “The” before “Little Red Train”. Plus the Good Knight was the one who helped the Little Einsteins get the peas to make soup for Rocket to eat, not the BAD Knight. Jason Feiner (talk) 01:06, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Please make a request on the article's Talk page. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization <i style="color: #000666;">Talk </i> 01:08, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

About edits of special episodes and movies list
Is everything fine with my edits of special episodes and movies.. I tried very hard in order to collect this information and provided to our page.. Aman131027 (talk) 05:50, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Mistaken Identity Ban
Hello,

I keep getting banned off and on for reasons that say I am a sock amount of "Jeremiah Caquias" and the moderator who issues the ban is you. I'm not sure what's happening as I am not them and have never heard their name in my life until the first ban. My name is Joe. I think there must be a slip up with IP Addresses or the like but I am logging in the same way I always have. So it's very confusing.

I assure you though I am not them but Joe and hope we won't have any further issues.

Thank you.

Best regards,

Joseph Joe12Hawk (talk) 17:50, 20 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello @Joe12Hawk! I've changed the rangeblock to a "soft block" so that logged-in users in that range will not be autoblocked. Sorry for the trouble.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 21:03, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello EvergreenFir, it's alright. I'm just glad I was able to speak with you before it potentially happened again. Thank you. I hope they'll be no further issues. Have a great holiday season if I don't speak to you! Joe12Hawk (talk) 21:26, 20 December 2022 (UTC)


 * You as well!  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 22:38, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!
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Tiny Ray
While I do agree with the revert, There is indeed a character named tiny Ray on Danger Force. Just want to point that out from this edit. The character is so small that it is not the main focus. Magical Golden Whip (talk) 20:35, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

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Your post to my page
You need to address selfstudier who is reverting my edits. JerusalemisthecapitalofIsrael (talk) 23:10, 30 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @JerusalemisthecapitalofIsrael - I see an IP editor on United Nations Human Rights Council edit warring over a section title. I see nothing wrong with SelfStudier's edits/reverts.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 23:12, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes it says consesus, I have it Selfstudier does not.JerusalemisthecapitalofIsrael (talk) 23:13, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * This editor has a username that is likely to be offensive to many people. O3000, Ret. (talk) 23:15, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Objective3000 yeah but imo not enough to be a username block. It's contentious but not outright derogatory.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 23:16, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Where?  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 23:16, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

How is staing a fact offensive. Jerusalem is the capital of Israel?Saying it is not is offensive.JerusalemisthecapitalofIsrael (talk) 23:25, 30 December 2022 (UTC)


 * It's a politically contentious statement. Israel has proclaimed it as their capital. Many do not recognize it as legitimate.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 23:29, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy New Year, EvergreenFir!
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Happy New Year, EvergreenFir!
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Happy New Year! EvergreenFir, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

— Moops  ⋠ T ⋡ 03:19, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

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— Moops  ⋠ T ⋡ 03:19, 2 January 2023 (UTC)