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Other way round
But, it was done swiftly. WP:NOTHERE WP:POV-pushing in WP:ARBMAC area... I suppose that we will see a lot more of those, my dear friend... -- WhiteWriterspeaks 15:15, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry if this is the wrong place to message but your social empires page is completely incorrect social empires the game is made by social point games company not zynga empires and allies is a completely different game please know what you are talking about. You should of made sure this was right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seahorse1425 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Kosovo dispute
Hi Evlekis. I notice that you've got involved in a dispute over Rona Nishliu, which is related to the issues currently surrounding your mediation case. As we agreed before, it is really unhelpful and counter-productive to get involved in new disputes when you are in a mediation process, as it completely undermines it. Do you think you could step away from the dispute for now, until your mediation reaches a conclusion? Thanks, I appreciate it. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 22:25, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * All right, I had no intention of reverting a third time. Clearly if 3RR is breached by the other party I will have no option but to report it - that's just the formal procedure as I have been a victim of it enough times this past six weeks. Though I give you my word that I shall stay away from the section. Thanks. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 22:28, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm glad that you did not intent to revert more than 3 times (I didn't think that you would); thank you for agreeing to stay away from the dispute - it makes the mediation process much easier. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 14:19, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

FRY
I was wondering why if you have been watching that ridiculously titled "Serbia & Montenegro" page about FR Yugoslavia for a long time than me, how come you and others who care about accuracy not complained about the breaching of Wikipedia rules? Don't you see that the merging of FRY into a page titled "Serbia and..." was an act of vandalism? Don't you know that ALL the contemporary evidence proves that in the English speaking Western world (which is the most relevant part for determining what should be the title in English Wikipedia) no one called FRY "Serbia and Montenegro"? The phrase "Serbia and Montenegro" didn't' even exist before it became official!!! That is because in the English language you don't normally replace a short name for a long three-word phrase.

Don't you see that what is going on is vandalism and that voting is useless? The scammers will always outvote you. You can't win against vandalism by voting. There are always more vandals than you. If for example you edit Wikipedia's page about them moon that it is made up of cheese, then you bring editors and use the voting system to keep that "made of cheese" argument, would that be OK? Because that is what is going on at that stupid page. A bunch of editor have hijacked the page. The solution is NOT voting but making a complaint to the right dispute-resolution and arbitration authorities. Loginnigol (talk) 10:54, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello Loginnigol. I see you are very passionate on this issue so I'll try to explain a few things. First of all, the placement of FRY within the page SCG (I use abbreviations) maybe controversial, insensitive and inaccurate but it is not an act of "vandalism" per Wikipedia's description. It is also correct that many articles are dominated by unofficial delegations ever ready to revert any contribution that upsets their little balance; I shall not name editors or areas but let's just say that I read far more articles than I edit on and I see similar monopolising everywhere: the Middle East, Africa, the Far East, The Baltic region, Germany for WWII and prior, South America, you name it. Acting alone, my hands are tied and I only have the influence to cast a vote in the referendum as have you. Technically when an admin makes the decision to either split or keep the article as it stands, it will not be based on the number of votes but rather the quality of the arguments. Now you can only vote once but you may add comments as much as you wish while the debate is open. Keep calm, breathe easy, calculate your thoughts, don't attack editors, and just refute anything you feel is wrong. Obviously you have one point, if someone from outside the former SFRY were going on holiday to Kotor in 2001 and his friends asked him, "which country is it?", can you imagine the black stares he would have received if he said, "Serbia and Montenegro!". They'd ask him what the hell he was talking about, and when he would reply, "well the constitutional name is FRY but in the U.N. and according to the U.S. it is SCG", they'd most probably think he had a few screws loose! The only thing is though that SCG was the official name 2003-2006 and it was the very same country, and because of the U.N. situation, many feel that this variation carried more weight than the other. However, FRY certainly appears in articles, whether discussing national activity 1992-2003 or sporting representation; and anybody switching that will find themselves reverted because as far as I am concerned, the national team for which Savo Milošević scored six goals in the 2000 European Championships in football is FRY and every source will testify to that. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 12:27, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Your vandalism report
Hi. Please see this discussion:
 * Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Dispute Resolution

I'm an administrator assisting with WP:AIV (our vandalism noticeboard); you requested an administrator block Estherboy which I declined since WP:AIV is for straightforward vandalism, not disruptive editing, edit wars, etc. Those issues are better suited to mechanisms such as dispute resolution.

I did admonish Estherboy to make no further edits to articles without first getting consensus for them on the articles' talk pages until all this is sorted out.

Thanks for keeping an eye on our content!

-- A. B. (talk • contribs) 16:53, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes thanks AB, not a problem. We are all here to discuss where users wish to make changes. The addition of United States did look like outright vandalism in that it constituted a random comment which followed his previous edit which blanked a vast section of the infobox, offering nothing more than the trademark "minor edit" summary. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 17:48, 12 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I saw that list of IPs you left at User talk:ItsZippy -- see my comments about the lack of a geographic pattern to them. It's possible someone's using open proxies; see WP:OP for more info.
 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 20:08, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * PS The Balkans are so beautiful but the politics so tricky for outsiders.

I'm with you, I've just seen the list and we either have a "meatpuppet ring" or an international jetsetter. Regardless, if this nexus really believes any change to the article to improve it then I am happy to discuss it with them. But I did attempt to communicate with Estherboy in the past and all for nothing, today is the first time he has spoken on a discussion page, and the first time any of the nexus has communicated outside of edit summary. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 20:14, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Moving Burma to Myanmar - ongoing poll
This is to let you know that an ongoing poll is taking place to move Burma to Myanmar. I know this happened just recently but no administrator would close these frequent rm's down, so here we go again. This note is going out to wikipedia members who have participated in Burma/Myanmar name changing polls in the past. It does not include banned members nor those with only ip addresses. Thank you. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:50, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

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Baton Haxhiu
I had to override some of your edits in an edit conflict, but please feel free to reinsert in a bit. As I'm sure you saw, I'm currently overhauling the article and will probably continue to work on it for another twenty minutes or so; if you wouldn't mind waiting just a few minutes, that way neither of our edits will be lost. Thanks! Khazar2 (talk) 21:12, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, it's all yours. Thanks for being patient with me, cheers -- Khazar2 (talk) 21:33, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Editing human height
Hello

Apologies for not reading the instructions enough to know edit summaries were required and thanks for the link.

My issue was that it appeared to be original research. I didn't see any citation relating to an article or study which had compared average heights between the relevant countries. The sentences appeared to be drawing conclusions from primary sources. Also as the section directly below suggests where average heights are concerned original studies and sources should be consulted for details on methodology and the exact populations measured, surveyed, or considered. The three studies compared in the paragraph are not using the same methodology. This difficulty highlights the problems with including original research in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.27.125.242 (talk) 00:45, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Propaganda line-up
Hi, Just noticed you were responsible for the change to Andreas Thein leaving the band in 1984. As a fan of the band I have heard nothing before about Claudia Brucken threatening to leaving the band if Andreas Thein stayed, or that he was paid off by ZTT. As far as I was aware there were differences within the band as to their musical direction, and Thein has himself stated in an interview that he was asked to leave after repeated arguments with Trevor Horn over the production of the single "Dr. Mabuse". I was just wondering where you got your information from? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Huffy1968 (talk • contribs) 08:18, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Koine Greek
Thanks for the message. Yes, I'm certain - the relevant articles are Koine Greek phonology and Greek alphabet. StAnselm (talk) 23:02, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

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He is back.
User:Kosovo 2008 Albania 1912. And i am sure that you know who is he. -- WhiteWriterspeaks 19:29, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I forgot this person's existence! Been away for quite some time. Sinbad Barron clan member? Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 23:56, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I am 100% positive its him. Check edits on Republic of Kosovo. You will recognise that... attitude... -- WhiteWriterspeaks 16:16, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

height
I removed it because it's obviously bullcrap. It needs a citation and it's not gonna get because it's obviously not true. And when all the surrounding ethnic groups are like 6 inches shorter? Impossible... 199.201.124.49 (talk) 20:08, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

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 * ✅ Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 18:04, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Rita
I'm happy with that now. Everyone agrees it was SFR Yugoslavia in 1990, you can't dispute that. And it is present day Kosovo regardless of what you think the legitimate political status should be. That format you used in that article is used for most Kosovo born people during the Yugo period. Personally I think that should be the standard. Some sort of recommended Manual of Style. IJA (talk) 20:35, 2 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree it isn't always simple stating where someone is from. For example Oscar Wilde and Bram Stoker were born in the sovereign state the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland", yet on wikipedia we just say they are from Ireland because they are Irishmen from the Island and nation of Ireland. But them two are both associated with Ireland in the same way Rita Ora is associated with Kosovo. It isn't always easy drawing the line, however I approve of the current version for Rita Ora as she was born in a place called Kosovo which at the time of her birth was indisputably apart of a sovereign state called the SFR Yugoslavia. No-one denies that therefore it is NPOV. IJA (talk) 22:56, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Arid Uka
Alright, we'll compromise. For Arid Uka let's put the Cyrillic somewhere close to the references section towards the bottom of the article like in the article on Hashim Thaci. I think that this is reasonable as a side-note. If you agree, then we don't have a problem, do we? 23 editor (talk) 20:55, 19 January 2013 (UTC)