User talk:Evolauxia/Archive 1

Anti-twister
Thanks for the proper term for an anti-twister. I've never been keen on that title either; basically, I just threw something there so it wouldn't get deleted way back when. Now it has a proper home, under Anticyclonic tornado. Anti-twister is now just a redirect. BTW, welcome aboard! Denni &#9775; 23:18, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I originally merely added the comment but left the article, until I reread it and saw tornado rotation attributed to Coriolis effect. They are too small to be generated from this.  I'll revise the new article.
 * If you reread it, you'll see that it is the parent thunderstorm's rotation to which the article refers. It would certainly be incorrect to attribute a tornado's rotation to the Coriolis effect. Denni &#9775;  03:27, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I have edited the article to best reflect the current understanding of the anticyclonic tornado phenomenon (though I've not yet completed it), which isn't understood well, indeed, the exact process of tornadogenesis itself is not yet understood. Evolauxia 09:19, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Tornado Weather in Australia
Hi Evolauxia, just looking at your edit on the Buladelah Tornado... can you ellaborate on the "classic setup for violent tornadoes"? Also I'm not convinced there's something really special about Canada, Bangladesh, and India for violent tornadoes. Glancing at the graphs in this article seem to suggest that in most places around the world, tornado intensity distributions are similar (the UK and France being opposite exceptions, possibly for reporting-related reasons). Australia gets a moderate number of tornadoes (a few reports per state per year), sometimes they're significant and occasionally they're violent. -- pde


 * One must be careful with what those graphs actually mean, though indeed, in that paper there is a quite similar distribution of F-scale categories for most regions of the world that experience tornadoes. Note, however, the datasets for all other regions are much longer than the US dataset, yet overall numbers are still much lower. Consult the number of observed tornadoes by intensity in Tables 5 and 6. Although they occur, and the populations should be aware of this, violent tornadoes are somewhat rare outside the regions I mentioned; and it is (theorized) due to lesser occurrences of favorable environmental parameters, including in other works by one of the coauthors of the paper you cited (Brooks). No F5 tornadoes have been confirmed outside the U.S. and Canada, in fact, some European tornadoes are overrated.


 * These environmental parameters are what I was alluding to when I mentioned 'classic setup' and it's a somewhat complex thing to get in to with adequate treatment. Essentially, to get the requisite meteorological setups with much frequency seems to require a certain geography that is somewhat unique to North America and that area of southern Asia. Various features provide for a high frequency of warm, moist, unstable low levels with dry air at mid-levels, capping inversions setup just right, various jet streams and colder air aloft (lapse rates), and a wind shear profile which is somewhat rare (increasing speeds AND anticyclonic veering with height, esp. 1-3km and 1km AGL for the veering) especially in conjunction with all other requisite conditions. FWIW, I think there are underreporting issues in places like China and Russia, potentially other areas, and Australia (lower population density, and possible tornadoes with intense offshore supercells).


 * I was able to find very little information on this tornado, but given its significance it certainly deserves a better article, as do some other Australian events (such as Bucca and Sandon). Evolauxia 10:52, 24 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I've started articles on the Brighton tornado and the south coast tornado. Maybe we should also do the Northam tornado if we can clear the rights to the photos... -- pde 04:22, 24 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Good. Seems fine to me for articles on said and similar events. They could also be linked either on the main global listing of significant events and/or the coming seasonal (or decadal/centennial for further back) global summary articles. Evolauxia 07:42, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Sadly, I don't know anything about the Tuggerah Lakes tornado. Might require a call to the NSW beureau of meterology, or some digging through contemporary newspapers. -- pde 01:36, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Heritability of Stature
Great to hear you're going to take this on! I'll take a look for more references. Off the top of my head I seem to remember a bunch of really interesting discussion about long bone growth and prenatal hormone exposure in the last few pages of Martin & Nguyen (2004) Anthropometric analysis of homosexuals and heterosexuals: implications for early hormone exposure. Hormones and Behavior 45: 31 – 39. Cheers, Pete.Hurd 17:33, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Accumulative generation effect
Hi, I just read the article about Human height. From what I could gather, you should be the one who wrote:


 * Thus, there is an accumulative generation effect such that nutrition and health over generations influences the height of descendants to varying degrees.

I'm very interested in this. There could be some interesting parallels in explaining the change over time of characters other than height. Could you tell me of some reference(s) where I can find more detail about this effect? (I can get almost anything at my university). Cheers, F4810 09:26, 12 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I poorly articulated that section, I intend to rewrite the manuscript of the article eventually. Anyway, I know of no papers that specifically cover this, though it might be addressed in some pediatric or auxological books. Some papers touch upon it such as when covering prenatal growth, I'll dig them up. Evolauxia 10:39, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Article move
Hi, Late-November 2005 Tornado Outbreak would normally have lower case 't' and 'o'. Any reason to break convention? Rich  Farmbrough 11:42, 28 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I moved it because specific tornado outbreaks are considered to be proper, they're specifically identifiable events by their name (like hurricanes but less regimented), and all the other outbreaks are thus capitalized so I moved it to fit this. I did it early before people recognized the first name and before there would be links to it. Evolauxia 00:00, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

infobox tornado outbreak
Fair enough, the infobox was loosely based off the hurricane one, hence the windspeed. NSL E (T+C) 01:28, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Tornado events (Nov 1992 Outbreak)
Thanks for your comments on my comments to the List of Tornadoes and Tornado Outbreaks. Still attempting some sporadic work on this; I just added a draft/article for the November 1992 outbreak, it's in need of some work, but I'll clean it up over the next few days. Any contributions would be welcome. David--Davidals

Coincidence indeed!
Thanks for your efforts as well. . .can we use a redirect on category pages? I was soing to put a redirect from Category:Saint Louisians to Category:St. Louisans. Will that work? If so, I'll do the same with St. Louisans and St. Louisians. I always type St. Louis by habit and hate having to spell it out. TMS63112 06:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 * ThanksTMS63112 07:17, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Re:Category:Television stations in St. Louis
Sounds good to me, i see no problems with a minor detail such as that. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 22:54, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Tornado winds
I feel that, if the information is available from the NWS local offices, it should be included. However, it should have to be proven from there. CrazyC83 17:38, 29 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay thanks for the information, that column should now be removed. CrazyC83 19:07, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

ePodunk External Links
Was ePodunk used as source or a reference in the article on Saint Louis. If so it should probably be described as a source or reference.

Also ePodunk seems to have excessive advertising on it and could be considered link spam. I didn't want to remove the link again untill I found out more about why it keeps re-appearing on the article.

I used the following guidlines on External Links when I removed the link.

Thanks, --Colin Faulkingham 00:51, 7 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I've added it because it's a decent place/geography site with its collection of information, and is provided for some other cities. I think more should be represented than just city government and tourist sites if the other sites are "reputable". Epodunk isn't pushing anything but does have a lot of google ads, so I could see an argument made on excessive ads. Evolauxia 04:04, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Your addition on Weather forecasting
Hey, I saw your edit on the weather forecasting page. It sounds very similar to this quote I found some years ago:

"Imagine a system on a rotating sphere that is 8000 miles wide, consists of different materials, different gases that have different properties (one of the most important of which, water, exists in different concentrations), heated by a nuclear reactor 93 million miles away. Then just to make life interesting, this sphere is oriented such that, as it revolves around the nuclear reactor, it is heated differently at different locations at different times of the year. Then someone is asked to watch the mixture of gases, a fluid only 20 miles deep, that covers an area of 250 million square miles, and to predict the state of that fluid at one point on the sphere two days from now. This is the problem the weather forecaster faces."

When I found this quote, it was attributed to Bob Ryan. What do you think of replacing the unsourced quote with this one? EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 21:56, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response. After posting my message, I decided to check it out and found multiple sites that quoted him including couple that cited when/where he said it, such as this one. I'll make the change and include where he published this quote. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 22:09, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for all your help. Interesting how both of the quotes we found were somewhat distorted versions of the original, but I suppose that's the nature of quotes, constantly changing from one report to another. Kind of a shame, since yours with the frozen poles and such and my previous one that mentioned water vapor add even more complexities to weather forecasting. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 22:19, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Pages up for deletion
Revolution within the form is up for deletion. Can I ask for a vote to "Transwiki". Thanks.WHEELER 23:54, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Cyclones
You said at the Wikiproject Tropical Cyclones page that "As a meteorologist, I have a background in atmospheric sciences, as well as access to journals, conferences, and experts". Would it be possible for you to eventually use your access to journals etc to help me find death and damage totals for tropical cyclones from Pacific hurricane seasons from 1972-1987. The NHC reports are available after 1988 and the Monthly Weather Review is free online before 1973. Between those years is a "hole" where death and damage information, if it is online without having to pay anything, is scattered about in pieces everywhere. I thought that you might be able to eventually find information regarding those cyclones since you have access to journals. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 22:58, 4 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for telling me that the MWR was available... I never noticed the change. Thanks again. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 00:04, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

2006 tornado season
Forecasters say that there is a chance of an outbreak tomorrow into Thursday in the central US. I am keeping a close eye on it - at this point the conditions are not as volatile as, say, last November 15th (which had been predicted 2-3 days in advance), but it could still be major. Should a new general page Tornadoes of 2006 be created to cover everything that does not warrant outbreak articles? BTW, the WikiProject you suggested I am working on - as a major part of Meteorology and Weather Events. The project page is User:CrazyC83/Meteorology. CrazyC83 23:14, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Its okay. CrazyC83 05:22, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

March 30-31
I definitely see something big here. While it is still too early to call it a big outbreak imminent, I see a potential for a major tornado event with the possibility open for a 20-state super outbreak stretching from the upper Great Lakes to the Gulf of Mexico. One to watch for sure! Talk:Tornadoes of 2006 has a section to discuss the potential outbreak. CrazyC83 05:56, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Article formatting
Hurricanehink ( talk ) 19:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks
Cheers, thanks! Pete.Hurd 04:42, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

List of tornadoes and tornado outbreaks
I had actually forgotten about that proposal, but I'm glad you agree. Do you mind if I just dig in and start moving events to their new respective pages? -Runningonbrains 19:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

European tornadoes
Hi, there is list of all known tornadoes in Czech Republic and of some in Slovak Republic at Czech Hydrometeorological Institute (in czech), many with photos and videos. The strongest confirmed tornado was F3, but tornado research in Central Europe began only couple of years ago. There aro also some historical ones in the list. I will incorporate some significant ones in couple of days. I don't know any claim of F5 tornado in Europe. I can try find some other sources from Central Europe countries. --Vladimír Fuka 13:22, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

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Enhanced Fujita Scale
Hi you changed my edit on the Enhanced Fujita Scale page there has been a EF5 here's proof.--Pediaguy16 18:58, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

http://www.kake.com/breakingnews/7347256.html

Its an EF5 image because that's were it was when it was a EF5.--Pediaguy16 19:22, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Greensburg outbreak
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Kurzewil's Law
I've removed the trasclusion of Kurzewil's Law from the AfD log since it is a redirect and not an article with an Afd tag. Personally, I think the redirect doesn't harm, but in case you want to get rid of it, you can mark it for sepepdy deletion as a page created in error with .--Tikiwont 12:09, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I'll do that. Evolauxia 12:11, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


 * To make it visible, however, you have to put the tag before the redirect. --Tikiwont 12:18, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks again, and I could use the spell checker, myself. Evolauxia 12:42, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Ben Abell
I've actually been working on a draft article for Ben Abell for some time now, and wonder if you would like to see and/or incorporate what I've developed? Or would rather I did? I was really surprised to find Ben Abell not a redlink anymore!--I didn't really expect anybody else to develop the article. —  pd_THOR  undefined | 12:52, 19 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, I've nominated an article you worked on, Ben Abell, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook for the article at Template talk:Did you know where you can improve it if you see fit. Thanks, —  pd_THOR  undefined | 15:32, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

The 15th OWS, huh? I'm stationed at Scott, I wonder if they could provide me with anything for the article (WP:V, of course). Of course, USAF pictures are public domain, I wonder if they have any pictures I could either that would be appropriate. I thought living so close it should be easy enough to get a free-use picture of him, but thinking on it, I don't really know I would go about it. Are you in the area and/or acquainted with him so as you could possibly get a good picture taken for the article? (BTW, we've already scattered this conversation before I put the notice on my talk page, however you want to chat for this if fine with me.) —   pd_THOR  undefined | 15:46, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Generally, I go back and forth, which fragments the conversation but is usually trackable when it's only two people, but I defer to the preference of whomever I'm communicating. I'm a former student of Abell's and was briefly in the USAF before (honorably) discharged.  I may be able to get a photo of him, and there's a decent chance that the OWS has some too.  Other potential sources are the STL NWS or STL/SLU AMS.  I actually took some photos of him at SLU (and perhaps STL, I don't recall) AMS meetings, but I don't think any would work well for the article, though I'll check.  Evolauxia 16:05, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thanks! I'll do the same at the OWS.  —   pd_THOR  undefined | 16:10, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

AIV
I've taken the report off as it seems just a misguided user, not really vandalism. Get his article deleted as you have through AfD and then see what he does. --Steve (Stephen)talk 00:05, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

RFD
Can RFD's also "kill" a tornado or tornadogenisis, or does it only help them form? Ks0stm 16:35, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
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Earth system science
so try to write an article on it. and how is it the leading one--in what specialty?DGG (talk) 06:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Citing Sources
How can (if allowed) I cite an e-mail as a source? In this case, it is an e-mail from a forecaster at the Storm Prediction Center on what constitutes a severe weather outbreak, I would like to use it as a source on Severe weather. --Ks0stm 13:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I added the information under outbreaks on the Severe weather page. --Ks0stm 17:41, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

FAR for Tornado
Great work on expanding the tornado article even further after its FAC. I think you're work is great, you added a lot of stuff I never would have thought to add. Are you going to be making any more significant additions to the article? If not, I'd like to request a Featured Article Review for the article. While I highly doubt it will be removed from its featured status, it would be nice to receive comments from the community in general, since the article has changed so drastically (1000 revisions!!) since it was awarded that status. What do you think? - Running On  Brains  17:03, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Fire whirls -reply
Hello there, I have had a read of the article Fire whirl, (compliments on your contributions), and it seems to me to be about as complete as possible, considering the paucity of published research on the subject. The additions, made by me to Dust devil (Related phenomena) came from my own observations during bush fire fighting. Classical physics requires, for generation of a vortex, preservation of both angular momentum and mass; but within a bush fire it is unlikely that the latter can be achieved because of the turbulence of the burning inflowing air and gases. The matter is further confused because, unlike a hot air vortex (a dust devil), thermal energy is being added within the fire whirl by the burning, rotating & rising gases; further the very high temperature difference between the flame of the fire whirl and surrounding air promotes mixing of the two, thus destroying the boundary layer as seen in dust devils with high vertical development. It can also be noted that, above a fire whirl, the smoke and ash debris does not (in my observations) form a vortical shape-- instead a confused turbulent upward flow. The best I can summarise is that the initiating mechanism of a fire whirl is similar to that of a dust devil, but that once formed the mechanisms appear to be dissimilar. Best wishes Geoffrey Wickham 00:29, 16 July 2007 (UTC) PS: If you go to Vortex engine, > External link AVE, > Links in sidebar, > Atmospheric Vortex Tower, > photos - Firewhirl : this is a good photo of artificially created firewhirl. The associated text indicates that their attempt at producing an artificial atmospheric vortex was not successful.Geoffrey Wickham 02:44, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Fire whirls - further comment
May I comment, with constructive intent, on the 3 photos to which you linked in your 26 July edit. I contend that only photo 3 shows a fire whirl, and that 1 & 2 show a smoke/debris devil arising after the fire has been doused or has died down leaving smouldering debris. An experiment can be conducted to demonstrate the difference between the two. Make up a 'wand' of ~ 5cm of fine cotton attached to the tip of a BBQ skewer. Take a 1 litre tin and cut vertical slots in the lower side, each ~1 cm apart and ~4 cm high. Using flat nose pliers bend the metal between the slots to form vanes at ~15 deg to the tangent. Put the tin on an electric hotplate set to low and take the base temp up to ~ 80c. Into the centre bottom of the tin place a small amount of dry fine garden mulch (or cigarette tobacco); pour a small amount of ethyl alcohol on the mulch & ignite with a match. A fire whirl of burning alcohol vapour will result. Hold the wand vertically above the flame and it will be seen that the cotton tuft will tend to turn erratically upwards, with no rotation. Once the alcohol is consumed the mulch will smoulder, producing a smoke vortex extending well above the top of the can (assuming no draughts inthe room). Introduce the wand into the rising smoke, or a little above it, and the cotton tuft will rotate indicating the presence of a true vortex similar to a dust devil. Thus, I contend that a 'fire whirl' is comprised of burning gases in a vortical form but with little or no vortex in the hot rising air above the flame. Photo 3 is interesting in showing very high vertical development of the fire whirl; probably due to the radial inflow of air to the 'very hot spot' having much greater velocity than the tangental flow; thus the point of equilibrium between the radial and tangental velocities is at a small radius. This can be demonstrated with the tin can experiment by cutting wider slots so that the radial inflow is increased. Would appreciate your comments in response. Best, Geoff Geoffrey Wickham 02:15, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Fire whirls further
Thank you for the comprehensive reply & links. I go along with you, as regards a Wikipedia article, in "lumping all whirls caused by fire into the fire whirl category" -- considering the complexity of atmospheric phenomena this is sensible.

Re " non-vortical turbulent upward flow" my perception comes mainly from experiments conducted which ranged from the 'tin can' as described, to a complex outdoor apparatus 1m dia with adjustable peripheral vanes. Summarising:
 * heating the underside of the base produces an invisible vortex which can be detected well above the walls of the apparatus (using the wand method). The height reached depends on multiple variables.
 * placing smouldering material within the base produces smoke which allows the vortex to be seen, but otherwise the results are similar to above.
 * causing flame within the apparatus by placing a tray of a mix of gasoline & oil in the base creates a flame of burning gases having a vortical shape. The dark smoke from the oil does not show a vortical form above the flame -- just rising turbulent flow. No rotation can be detected above the flame when using the wand method.

RegardsGeoffrey Wickham 00:26, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

WP:CVU status
The Counter-Vandalism Unit project is under consideration to be moved to and/or  status. You have been identified as a project member and your input as to this matter would be welcomed at WT:CVU. Thank you. Delivered on behalf of user:xaosflux 01:10, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Tornado emergency
It has been mentionned in the Wikiproject Severe Weather talk page but here is a link to the discussion.--JForget 01:04, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Enigma tornado outbreak and Grazulis
Hey there-

I've been working on some ongoing upgrading to various E Coast-related tornado articles; sourcing and referencing, and adding details.

First, I was wondering if (when you have a little time) you would mind doing a read-through of the Enigma tornado outbreak article. The work I've done thus far is referenced from many newspaper sources, and pieces of Finley's tornado study, which appeared in 1886. Most of this material is anecdotal, rather than scientifically precise, but it does include an abundance of locations and (vague) desctiptions. The article doesn't correspond to the usual formatting of outbreak-related articles, due to the disparate nature of the sources and the general lack of scientific precision in most of them. There's virtually no easily accessible material on this outbreak (I've had to dig very hard to find what sources I've been able to come up with), so I'd like to get a decent article together on the outbreak. Some feedback on tightening up the article, if needed, would be appreciated.

Do you have access to any of Grazulis' material, specifically anything detailing individual storms during this outbreak? I think some of this material would be of use, so I'd like someone with access to the big Grazulis book to make some contributions when possible. I'd be curious to see what he had to say about the overall outbreak.

Davidals 20:24, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note and the look/work on the article. Valuable suggestions; I'm still working on assembling further info.  The Finley study BTW is excerpted in some AMS studies and is available online; I'll look for the link and pass it on.  I haven't reproduced any of his charts - the book appears to be a government work, at least commissioned by the Army, but I am uncertain of the precise copyright status.  There are two weather charts made as the event unfolded, along with Finley's graph of tornado tracks, and I do have uploadable JPEGs of this material.


 * Likewise, the Montgomery NWS office has (available online) an archival publication/survey of all tornadoes they were able to definitely source and verify, 1880-1925, in that state, and detailed path maps of the Enigma tornadoes are included in that information.


 * Davidals 22:39, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

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Oceanography project proposal
It looks like the project above has at least enough members to be at least a functional task force, possibly of WikiProject Physics. Have you considered contacting that project and seeing if they would be willing to take on such a task force? It would make the work in creating and, later, maintaining all the templates and whatnot quite a bit easier. John Carter 13:48, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

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Alice and her harasser
Let's start with some good news: Alice and the project lost the bothersome sock puppet who had been disrupting many articles we monitor, and now most of us can edit in relative peace. Congratulations, Alice, for being able to come out of semi-retirement. Benjiboi, on the other hand, has gained an anonymous IP stalker who seems to be more Catholic than the Pope and who has a hard-on for the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. We seem to have a sort of Yin and Yang thing going on here, which helps both to keep us in balance and on our toes.

Harry Potter and his homosexual teacher
Albus Dumbledore got outed this month, and was immediately adopted by our project. The international brouhaha surrounding this disclosure reached all the way to Wikiland, and his article was briefly locked due to homophobic vandalism (as well as well meaning editors who just couldn't believe that that nice man could possibly be gay). This is a wonderful article to add to your watchlist, and will surely give you hours of reverting fun on cold winter days.

"My Fellow Americans"
On a more serious note, Fireplace has suggested a new article series about LGBT rights in the United States, state by state. This ambitious topic will surely require many editors and a lot of research, but has the potential to add further prestige to our already prestigious project.

Same name, same sexuality: a riddle for the ages
Francis Bacon (not the new gay one, but the old gay one ... though they're actually both dead, now that I think about it) has also aroused passions here on Wikipedia, with editors opposing his sexuality being disclosed in his biography. The always helpful Haiduc has thoughtfully provided any number of sources, but it is slow going getting his point across. Anyone want to lend a hand?

Beat writer arouses Irish guy
And speaking of passions, Jack Kerouac has inflamed the senses once again with editors, including administrator Irishguy, mounting a spirited defense to keep him as heterosexual as possible for Wikipedia purposes. Why? I don't know. Perhaps some of you can drop by the talk page and ask your questions there. I feel certain a stimulating debate will ensue that will be enjoyed by all.

Love those Texas Longhorns
Did you know that one of our Featured articles, Lawrence v. Texas, lost its shiny gold star? That was a shocker. It has been suggested that we turn our attention to it in an effort to restore it to its former glory. I took a peek, and it does need our help badly. For our American editors, it would seem almost a civic duty to edit it (not that I'm hinting....).

Point and Counterpoint
Though it was far too intellectual a debate for a mere cruise director like myself to take part in, Intersexuality was certainly a hot topic a week or two ago. The thrust of the debate was over inclusion in our project. Lots of good editors had lots of good opinions. For those too lazy to check out the discussion, we decided to leave it out for now.

Drudgery on offer
Peer review is, as always, short staffed and seemingly unloved. Wouldn't you feel better about yourself and the world in general if you took a few minutes to read one of the listed articles and offer some helpful advice? I know I'd feel better if you did.
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"My Fellow Americans" redux
The article LGBT movements in the United States certainly raised eyebrows last week, especially when it was discovered that copyrighted content had been added to our article. Tragedy was averted at the last minute, though, when the original hosts of the article where the material had been pilfered agreed to make it free to everyone. Our thanks to them, whoever they are. Busy Bee that I am, I haven't had time to read it, but I'm sure it's sensational.

This month's Wiki stars
Lesbian pulp fiction (a genre close to my heart, I must confess) writer Ann Bannon has decided to spice up the featured articles candidates list this month. Why not drop by and make your opinion heard? Joining her in this lofty aspiration are the articles But I'm a Cheerleader and Conversion therapy. I'm sure their main editors would welcome any comments (well, helpful ones, anyway) on the talk pages or the FAC discussions. And lest we forget, the List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people: Sd-Si became a Featured list!! Rah rah, siskumbah! Go, team, GO!!!!

And the Oscar goes to...
Not content to run for Best Actress, plucky Bannon won a Best supporting actress Oscar... whoops, I meant to say Ann is also getting more than her share of womanly attention on the Good Article list. Joining her on this exalted plane are Freddy Mercury, Waylon Smithers and Lance Bass. Good articles indeed, and the last one mentioned just goes to show that one needn't admire the subject of an article to appreciate the effort put into making him worthwhile reading. What on earth Britney ever saw in him I'll never know. Truly a riddle cloaked in an enigma and wrapped around a puzzle.

Fresh faces to brighten our pages
Though I may not be the first, let me extend a warm, LGBT Love Boat welcome to the 12 new members who joined us in October: Jliberty, JockCub360, ChristopherEdwards, Desiderius82, Zlrussell, Kelsied, BeardedWoof, Mujerado, Tyrfing, Fabgurrl, Redl@nds597198, and decafdyke! Whatever you choose to do here, I feel sure that your contributions will enhance our project to no end. And if they don't...well, let's just say that I'm not shy.

Leather and lace
On a personal note, your already overworked cruise director is being cyberly whipped almost daily by Nemissimo, who desperately wants to get the German BDSM translation copy edited and used as a replacement for the current one. It's such a ... err, stimulating topic that I am sure many of you will want to join the copy editing fun. Jump right in, folks! It's so lonely copy editing it all by my lonesome!

Late breaking news
A little birdie just whispered in my ear that our noble collaboration project was delisted from the Community Portal due to inactivity. When asked how this scandalous turn of events could have occurred, the answer I received was "we suck at stuff like that". Well. In the first place, I disagree that sucking should be considered a negative, but to each his or her own. In the second place, I have full confidence that we can and will collaborate with other projects in the future. So let's not view this as a setback (even though it is), but rather a challenge to improve (and good Lord, I sound almost Wikipedian!).

Champagne dreams and caviar kisses
Lastly, the holidays are rapidly approaching. Our American cousins are currently getting ready to slaughter masses of poultry in an effort to show their gratitude and generally peaceful demeanor, and those of the Canadian persuasion, trendsetters that they are, celebrated a bit early this year. I'm sure all us foreigners will join together in wishing them all a very happy Thanksgiving on their respective holidays, both already celebrated and forthcoming... though I would hope somebody would enlighten me as to why they don't celebrate it on the same day. I was awake all last night trying to figure that one out. - In the spirit of this peculiarly North American holiday, let me take a moment to thank all of our editors for their contributions to this project. It's people like you who make people like me...well, a "people person"! May all your Wiki days be bright, and may your Love Boat never turn into a Poseidon.
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Kisses,

Miss Julie To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Dev920 know. Delivered on 12:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC).
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LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
Delivered on 20:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC). SatyrBot 21:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Winter storms
There is a discussion started by User:Juliancolton at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Meteorology about a proposed/possible new WikiProject called WikiProject Winter storms. Feel free to voice your opinion on the proposal. JForget 01:05, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
Delivered sometime in January 2008 (UTC). SatyrBot (talk) 23:28, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Severe Weather Newsletter
A newsletter has been started for WP:SEVERE at WikiProject Severe weather/Newsletter. Newsletter editors are currently in need of nominations for featured member to finish the newsletter before the begining of the month. Nominations are accepted at the above link. User: Southern Illinois SKYWARN and User:Juliancolton —Preceding comment was added at 23:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Severe Weather Newsletter (February 2008)
Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 14:38, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Oceanography
I've proposed on the talk page of the above named project which you created that perhaps the scope and name of the project be changed to reflect more of a focus on oceans in general, rather than specifically oceanography. Oceanography would still be included within the scope of the project, however, and, if the project grows big enough, would certainly be one of the first likely subprojects. Please indicate your opinion of the possible change on that page. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 22:12, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
Delivered by SatyrBot around 17:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC) SatyrBot (talk) 17:32, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

List of tornadoes striking downtown areas
I'll start on the cleanup as soon as i get the chance. I have Kenner, Louisiana tornado included because the tornado travelled from New Orleans into it. Same with the Los Angeles-area tornadoes. :) RingtailedFox • Talk • Contribs 17:26, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people: R
Hello. I don't want to revert your addition, but the Reich entry absolutely needs a citation. Every entry on this list has one. Could you dig one up? (If you're using the autobiography, that's fine but need the usual details.) Thanks! Rivertorch (talk) 16:06, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Micrometeorology
I'd assume you have it on your watchlist, but just in case, I did throw a little something about my concern in merging with microscale meteorology on the talk. Jason Patton (talk) 05:11, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
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Hello, members and friends of WP:LGBT! I'm not one to be writing newsletters, but I miss our cruise director, Miss Julie, and our project is drifting along with a few leaking plugs in the bottom of the boat. Hey, it happens. Every group we join goes through changes. If Wikipedia weren't so interesting it wouldn't also be so frustrating sometimes. And vice versa. More than one Wikiproject has tumbleweeds blowing through it, but this is one that can't afford to let that happen. Even if you pop in to the talk page of the project, you can let us know you're still around.

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WP:LGBT's Role in HIV / AIDS articles
It wouldn't be a proper gay community without a li'l bit o' drama! That's right. If we aren't arguing about something, then we should be asking if we're still queer. Maybe that's for the best, since we know we're still kicking. Our most recent topic is how far the role of our project should go in dipping our toes into HIV/AIDS articles. The main AIDS article was delisted as a Featured Article last month, sadly. (Sending a swift kick to WP:Medicine.) A spirited discussion is available for your entertainment on the WP:LGBT talk page about just how much of HIV and AIDS should we take on. As ever, we'll take your opinions under advisement. We're going to have to, because it doesn't seem to have been settled.

Is Pride POV?
We have a pretty cool sidebar that identifies core LGBT articles. Its symbol is the iconic gay pride flag, much like other Wikiprojects have iconic symbols denoting the topic is a core subject in a series of articles. However, a question recently arose asking if the symbol itself is not neutral. Should a pride flag show up at the top of the article on Conversion therapy? How else would anyone know the article is about queer issues? Is there another symbol that is as widely recognized and that includes all our many splintered facets? At what point do we stop asking ourselves all these questions and just go have a mint julep on the verandah and stop caring?

Harvey Milk and Jim Jones
For the love of all that is holy, no Kool Aid jokes. However, an editor involved in pioneering San Francisco Supervisor Harvey Milk's article has included a section about the late supervisor's support of Jim Jones and the People's Temple. While it may be accurate, there is a Request for Comment regarding how much emphasis the section places on Milk's support in light of his overall political influence on the city, and indeed the rest of the United States. Milk's article is a sad one in more ways than one. It lacks the detail and heart that honors its subject. Anyone want to do a barter with me? I'll bring Harvey Milk to featured status (give me a month or two so I can read stuff), if you do something of equal value to WP:LGBT?? Make me an offer...

Queer Studies is offensive!
The established branch of study known as Queer studies was brought up as an category for deletion because an editor was offended by the use of "queer" in the title. It was overwhelmingly rejected mostly by the usernames I see here on our Wikiproject page. (A clue that I know you are out there, hiding...biding your time...) So, I wish I could congratulate you, but now I'm all confused by my sympathy for the editor who was offended. So, if you're reading this, Moni has a short memory and can't remember your username. Don't be put off by our demonstrative pushiness. Join us. We can always use involved editors.

Lambda Literary Awards
What can you do to help the project out? Be a wiki-fairy, on many levels. There are all kinds of articles that need help. Why, just this morning I removed those ugly wikify and cleanup tags from four articles at random. If you can put  around stuff, you can clean up articles. There's a list of articles that need attention at the top of the WP:LGBT talk page. Or you can start with the Lambda Literary Awards, where the goddess of my altar received a pioneering award, and was "reduced to rubble" by Katherine V. Forrest's wonderful speech. The 20th ceremony of the Lambda Literary Awards, which celebrates LGBT literature, took place in West Hollywood on May 29th. The page needs to be updated with the new winners, to be found on the official website.


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Yeshayahu Leibowitz, Arthur C. Clarke and Bernard Montgomery
Why on earth would someone want to delete material about homosexuality? 'Tis truly a mystery. But these embattled articles have some random evil gnomes removing information that places these folks under our queer umbrella. Help us keep an eye out for the deletions. Take a peek at the articles, familiarize yourselves with the info, and be handy with the undo function in the article history. If tempers flare, take it to the Hall monitors and let them sort it out. Best solution is to make sure your sources are immaculate.

This month's Wiki stars
This is what I get for opening my big fat mouth and suggesting the newsletter should be revived. Here I am writing it. So, to pat self on back (*cough*) Mulholland Dr. became a featured article in May. This is A Good Thing since it is my personal declaration that there is no such thing as lesbian porn. I don't care what Benjiboi says about the video collection at goodvibes. Instead, we have hot women who connect on a deep, personal, soul-touching level, so this film should qualify as some of the skankiest porn available for lesbians. Plus, it's completely confusing and surreal! D'you think Laura Harring would care that the article is featured? I don't think so either... (Call me, Laura!)

Compulsive hoarding of templates
Once I saw a harrowing episode of Animal Planet's Animal Cops where this guy had, like, 250 cats in his house and it freaked me right out. I'm drawing a parallel between 250 cats and, well...three, really, templates in articles involving LGBT issues. Can we stick to one, maybe? In the aforementioned Harvey Milk's article there's a core LGBT template, a link to the LGBT portal, and a sidebar for LGBT rights. Jiminy! You'd think we weren't the folk to set industrial grey carpeting and track lighting in vogue. An LGBT footer was designed to link to articles of interest that aren't the aforementioned core articles. What do you think, can we have either an LGBT template for core articles, a footer for LGBT articles that are high profile but not core, or an LGBT rights template? As ever, anything's up for discussion on the WP:LGBT talk page.

The Violet Quill and magazines
Zigzig20s suggests we create an article on The Violet Quill, as it seems such a milestone in the advancement of gay/queer literature. Members of the Quill all have pages of their own (Edmund White, Christopher Cox, Robert Ferro, Michael Grumley, Andrew Holleran, Felice Picano, and George Whitmore). We need to find more info on the Quill per se to reference the page that we create. Perhaps Google Books - and libraries? - can help.

A number of magazines also need articles, perhaps most notably QW, LGNY, and Lesbian Feminist Liberation.

Mom's nagging for Pride Month
It's June, Pride month. Wear sunscreen, stay hydrated, get a designated driver, then go half-dressed in the streets find a girlfriend or boyfriend, or some homo who's standing there looking lonely and kiss 'em up real good. Remember, it all started 39 years ago when a bunch of drag queens just got fed the f*ck up by the cops raiding the bar and dragging them all out to the pokey again. Rock on, queens! Enjoy your celebrations. My town's is in October, and 200 people attend. I miss Denver.

Fresh faces to brighten our pages
Hey, I've seen you around! Sorry there seem to be so many—it's been a while. But we welcome you all: Cheezisyum21, Taineyah, Dustihowe, Avesta69, RachelSummers77, Vivekgopinathan, AMK1211, Staffwaterboy, Ted Ted, Joe5150, Leahtwosaints, Robapalooza, Arthomure, Confusionball, Affinity likely, PrinceOfCanada, Yobmod, Npd2983, Neagley, Bvlax2005, Bvlax2005, Rhullsf, Textorus, Kieran.casey, Tyciol, Meojive, Sappho'd, Bookkeeperoftheoccult,  Gaywarrior, Aujourd'hui, maman est morte, and Balin42632003.

It looks like we've picked up a lot of talent lately. We have no doubt you'll be making your indelible mark on LGBT knowledge as we know it, here at Wikipedia.

- In the immortal words of Miss Julie, "May all your Wiki days be bright, and may your Love Boat never turn into a Poseidon."
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We miss you, Miss Julie, as well as all the others who have graced our project and are on wiki-breaks or just got fed up with all the nuttiness and went to live their lives. Get your stupid houses built and hurry up and come back. --Moni3 (talk) 16:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC) To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Moni3 know.
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This newsletter was delivered by §hepBot around 16:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC). ShepBot (talk) 16:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Merger proposed
I'm proposing a merger on an article you worked on. Since the shelf clouds and roll clouds are subset of the arcus clouds, they should be integrated into the later article. This would make a more complete article instead of splitting the information among three articles. Anwer in Talk:arcus cloud.

Pierre cb (talk) 04:41, 15 June 2008 (UTC)