User talk:Exel Computer Systems

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Speedy deletion of User:Exel Computer Systems
A tag has been placed on User:Exel Computer Systems, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as FAQ/Business for more information.

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Your account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia, because it has been identified as an account used for promotion of a company or group, with a username that implies that this has been done by that company or group. See FAQ/Organization and Conflict of interest''.

This kind of activity is considered spamming and forbidden by policies, and also violates our username policy.

However, if you feel that there has been a mistake in your blocking, please appeal this block by adding the text   or email the administrator who blocked you. Your reason should include your response to this issue and a new username you wish to adopt that does not violate our username policy (specifically, understand that accounts are for individuals, not companies or groups, and that your username should reflect this). Please check that your new username has not already been taken by checking this list. -- Alexf(talk) 14:53, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Name change - remedy page problems
Your proposed username is too close to. PhilKnight (talk) 22:58, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Since has not edited since 2006, I guess the proposed username is OK. But, you have to explain what exactly you mean by to update the Exel page. Is it the Exel page or some other page? How you indent to "update" it? Please, be more specific.  Vanjagenije   (talk)  22:02, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Name change - remedy page problems
Hi,

I was unable to access the account until now, hence the delay in my response.

Thanks for confirming new name is acceptable.

The page we are discussing i can no longer find and point you to, it is the one created by this account, most likely titled 'Exel Computer Systems'.

The update I was hoping to make was to generally bring it up to date as it hasn't been looked at in a while. The main reason to edit the page was an attempt to remove the 'Advertising' aspect which had been identified by a moderator.

Exel Computer Systems (talk) 13:01, 25 July 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm still not sure what page you are talking about. This account created one page, your user page (User:Exel Computer Systems). It was created on 27 February 2009 and deleted the same day (more than 7 years ago) because of advertising. I don't understand how you intended to "update" the page that was deleted 7 years ago. There was another page titled Exel Computer Systems that was created on 10 June 2009 by User:Llandian, and yet another page titled Exel Computer Systems plc that was created on 5 September 2007 by User:KirstyBirch. Was that all you? Why do you need three accounts?  Vanjagenije  (talk)  13:43, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Being unable to see any pages set up for the company 'Exel Computer Systems' I can't confirm which one. I assumed it was set-up by this account but I could be wrong. It was the only page for 'Exel Computer Systems' that was live/searchable/accessible until just recently.

The other two accounts I don't know about or have access to, the one with the name is an ex-employee but i wasn't aware they had added anything - i don't think the live page was from that account, I can't guarantee it though.

All i wanted to do was bring the page about the company up-to-date and try to resolve the issues around it looking too promotional, i don't understand why it has recently been removed when i am trying to make it more accurate and fall in line with your policy.

Microsoft have a page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft

They have a page re one of their products: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Dynamics_NAV

let me know the problem we are facing and i will resolve it. Exel Computer Systems (talk) 08:35, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The page you are referring to is Exel Computer Systems which was deleted few days ago. It was created on 10 June 2009 by User:Llandian, then deleted the same day, then recreated on 21 July 2009 by User:Wikepopeyuk. A lot of user accounts, really. You say that you want to edit "in line with your policy". Did you read our WP:COI policy? It says that COI editing is strongly discouraged. I can unblock you if you promise you will not write anything about your company. Yes, Microsoft has a page, but it was not written, nor updated by its employees, it was written by neutral editors who have no connection to the company.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  13:48, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

So now we find ourselves in a situation where a page about a company has been live for 7 years and over that time some of the information has become inaccurate. In trying to improve the accuracy and conform to a part of your policy - in trying to remove the promotional aspect - we have somehow ended up in a situation without a page.

If it was okay to be on there for the past 7 yrs, why remove it now?

Exel Computer Systems (talk) 11:34, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, it was obviously not OK for the past 7 years, but no one bothered to do anything about it. You are talking about "our policies". Let's get straight to it. Since our WP:COI policy doe not allow COI editing, I will unblock you under two conditions: (a) you change your username, and (b) you explicitly promise not to write anything about your company.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  12:33, 27 July 2016 (UTC)