User talk:Exit404

Speedy deletion nomination of Imam thug


A tag has been placed on Imam thug requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article, which appears to be about a real person, individual animal(s), an organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this.  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 19:45, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Please stop.
Creating a new user profile does not mean this non-notable musician will somehow merit inclusion. Please stop recreating deleted articles. Thank you. AlexHOUSE (talk) 20:02, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Alex, it is not only me who tried to post this article. Therefore, your assertion is incorrect. Furthermore, there are tons of references, songs and articles on the internet regarding this artist. In addition, this artist has sold 10's of thousands of records by himself and has appeared on Gold selling and platinum selling albums.

When speaking to users on Wikipedia, you can try to be a little more polite and not have the users entire experience be about you wielding your power and authority over them. Plus, it's just not nice to be snide and contemptuous in your claims. After all, what have I done to you? It is not fair to the users and doesn't represent you well.

I ask that you reconsider this article.

Thank you.


 * I have absolutely no more authority here than you do, I assure you. We are both editors, and we both "wield" the same amount of "power." Your article has been tagged not because someone didn't like it, but because as it is now, it does not meet up to WP:Notability. There are zero sources.
 * If you want it to stay up, you need to establish its notability by citing independent, reliable, third-party sources at the bottom of the article.
 * Understand that I'm not a tyrant who gets a power trip by deciding that some block of text on an online encyclopedia that has absolutely nothing to do with my life should or should not exist. I, like everyone else here, am a volunteer editor, and I am only following the rules. None of my comments to you have been intended to be "snide," although I fear you may have taken them that way because your article was threatened. So let me explain.
 * The fact of the matter is this. A promotional/marketing entity called "Global 360," with a phone number ending in 6231, created a new account and published a new article about a relatively little-known musician with no sources. Global 360 gets banned, the article deleted, and not an hour later, a brand new account recreates the deleted article using word-for-word phrasing. Can you explain that? AlexHOUSE (talk) 23:34, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I can explain that. I reached out to a few people I know and discovered that one of them (A former intern and now fan of the artist, posted it.) There is a lot going on with this artist this week so people are posting all kinds of things. It's nice to know you were not trying to be snide. I appreciate that and I apologize. What can I do now - provide sources? Is that all?
 * Read up on WP:RS. If you can provide links to, say, a newspaper article about him, then you're off to a good start--you'll probably need at least two. By the way, a former intern or marketing company wrote the text constitutes a conflict of interest and should be avoided. Now, ideally, I'd like to see this article stay up as a valuable contribution to the encyclopedia, but for that to happen it has to be within the rules and guidelines. Your explanation would explain why two articles would be created, but does not answer the original question as to why the text was word-for-word from the Global360 version. Also, it's a good idea to sign your posts-- after typing your message, type four tildes (~). AlexHOUSE (talk) 23:56, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. I just logged on to my computer. The reason the article's text is the same is because me and the other contributor have the same person in common, the person who wrote the bio. However, I do have more sources and references for this artist and I plan on just re-writing and re-formatting it altogether. I will do so today, if you can give me that long. By the way, I apparently have been blocked altogether and so will I now have to use another user name? This is so confusing.
 * It's not really a question of how long I can "give" you--like I said, we're both editors and have the same authority, so the fate of the article is not up to me, it's up to the next admin who sees it. If the article is still up, you can try contesting the deletion on its talk page. But, frankly, in addition to references it would require a substantial rewrite. The person who wrote all that text needs to seriously reconsider his ability to write biographies, let alone encyclopedia entries. As for your block, I don't have any answers for you; I'm not an admin.
 * Also, remember to type four tildes (~) at the end of your posts. See how mine say my name and time and date? That's done by "signing" the posts with tildes. You'll also want to put a colon in front of your text to indent it. First person that posts doesn't put a colon, the person who replies puts one colon, the next post has two, etc. Here's an example; you can check the formatting when you hit "edit this page" to reply.

Hey man, I like hats.
 * No, way, I like hats too.
 * For sure, hats are the best.
 * I totally agree.


 * Easy as pie. AlexHOUSE (talk) 16:34, 27 January 2010 (UTC)