User talk:Extolmonica

Youth United
A tag has been placed on Youth United, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template   to the article and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Undeath (talk) 19:30, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Copyright problems with Image:Yu logo1.jpg
An image that you uploaded, Image:Yu logo1.jpg, has been listed at because it is a suspected copyright violation. Please look there if you know that the image is legally usable on Wikipedia (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), and then provide the necessary information there and on its page, if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. — Jeff G. (talk&#124;contribs) 05:58, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Youth United
A tag has been placed on Youth United requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a club, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guidelines for people and for organizations.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. — Jeff G. (talk&#124;contribs) 06:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Youth United
Another editor has added the  template to the article Youth United, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but the editor doesn't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the article (see also What Wikipedia is not and Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia or discuss the relevant issues at its talk page. If you remove the  template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. BJBot (talk) 16:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Welcome!
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Re: Helpme- extolmonica
Thanks for the message. You may want to check out Wikipedia:The perfect article for help on improving your article. If you need any more help, let me know! Voyaging (talk) 17:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Youth United for editors' comments on why they think your article should be deleted, and see Non-commercial organizations for the criteria your page meets for deletion. Voyaging (talk) 18:13, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Your article was deleted due a violation of one of the reasons at Deletion policy. To see why your article was deleted specifically, you can go to Articles for deletion/Youth United. Voyaging (talk) 06:29, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * To answer your specific question (now archived here), Youth United was first deleted by Pegasus, then it was further deleted by Wizardman, and you can get to know that information by visiting this page.   — Jeff G. (talk&#124;contribs) 09:09, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Youth United
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Your recent edits
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Speedy deletion of Image:Yu logo2.jpg
A tag has been placed on Image:Yu logo2.jpg, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion debate, such as at articles for deletion. Under the specified criteria, where an article has substantially identical content to that of an article deleted after debate, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on  explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. — Jeff G. (talk&#124;contribs) 22:02, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

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Possibly unfree Image:Yu logo2.jpg
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Youth United
A tag has been placed on, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a. If you can indicate how Youth United is different from the previously posted material, or if you can indicate why this article should not be deleted, I advise you to place the template hangon underneath the other template on the article, and also put a note on Talk:Youth United saying why this article should stay. An admin should check for such edits before deleting the article. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Please read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 4 under General criteria. If you believe the original discussion was unjustified, please feel free to use deletion review, but do not continue to repost the article if it is deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. We welcome your help in trying to improve Wikipedia, and we request you to follow these instructions. Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  19:40, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * This "new" version still had nothing to indicate the notability of the organization. We need articles from newspapers, books, magazines -- reliable, impartial third-party sources -- which talk about this organization. Instead you give us links to the group's own website, and links which tell us what a non-governmental organization is. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  20:00, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Most of the links you list are to the same article, which is about a demonstration YU helped organize. Another refers to "several NGOs" including YU. These verify the organization's existence, but are not the kind of substantial mentions necessary to establish notability. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  20:54, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * A topic' is presumed'' to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.


 * "Presumed" means objective evidence meets the criterion, without regard for the subjective personal judgments of editors. Substantive coverage in reliable sources suggests that the subject is notable.
 * "Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail, and no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than trivial but may be less than exclusive.
 * "Reliable" means sources need editorial integrity to allow verifiable evaluation of notability, per the reliable source guideline. Sources may encompass published works in all forms and media. Availability of secondary sources covering the subject is a good test for notability.
 * "Sources," defined on Wikipedia as secondary sources, provide the most objective evidence of notability. The number and nature of reliable sources needed varies depending on the depth of coverage and quality of the sources. Multiple sources are generally preferred.
 * "Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by those affiliated with the subject including (but not limited to): self-publicity, advertising, self-published material by the subject, autobiographies, press releases, etc. ''' In particular, these references you have provided fail the part about "significant coverage." -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  21:13, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

deletion review template
The deletion review notice you sent me is inappropriate. I did not delete the article, I did not edit the article, and I did not participate in the AfD for the article. Those would be the only circumstances that would preclude giving me the template you added to my talkpage. I have already said my piece at the deletion review. Thanks,  Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  20:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It can be sent to anyone that you feel is interested in the topic. However, you shouldn't send a "deletion review notification" to editors that have only contributed to the deletion review.  It's redundant and unnecessary.   Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  20:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The template you gave me was also superfluous. --AndrewHowse (talk) 20:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Same, as I already was watching the DRV discussion.. but since you added additional sources since my last comment, it makes sense, so thanks anyway. --Minimaki (talk) 12:31, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. The second template you gave me was also superfluous. — Jeff G. (talk&#124;contribs) 04:22, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Youth United deletion review
The deletion review of this article has been closed. The result was that the deletion was upheld unanimously. There is no further appeal possible from this decision. Thank you for editing Wikipedia. Stifle (talk) (trivial vote) 08:35, 15 March 2008 (UTC) there is no point deleting this article without any reason. just answer me one simple straight question: which wikipedia policy was violated this time? Thanx Extolmonica (talk) 08:53, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I ain't getting why the article was deleted? I had added 9 third party source for no reason. all the recommendations were based on the earlier deletion criteria. None of them has replied after 9 reliable sources were quoted except of Minimaki, who said "Same, as I already was watching the DRV discussion.. but since you added additional sources since my last comment, it makes sense, so thanks anyway"
 * Notability. Stifle (talk) (trivial vote) 22:21, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * so that implies that if i provide more reliable sources to justify the notability of the article, you will approve it?? Extolmonica (talk) 19:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't have the right or task of approving that or any article. I would recommend that you take some time to create a new version of the article in your userspace (possibly at User:Extolmonica/Youth United; I've moved the old version of the article there for you to work on) and include more and better references. When you have significantly improved the article, consider asking one or more of the editors who voted on the article's deletion to have a look, and if it is improved you can make a new request at Deletion review for the article to be recreated.
 * However, I don't think that this will be successful. I understand that you are connected with the club. Please understand that your club probably is not notable enough to have a Wikipedia page and consider writing instead about other more notable topics here, or about your club on its own website. Stifle (talk) (trivial vote) 19:43, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You provided plenty of reliable sources to show that the club exists. You did not, however, provide evidence that the club is notable enough for its own article. Trivial or incidental coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not sufficient to establish notability. All content must be attributable. That is the issue you need to concentrate on. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  21:14, 17 March 2008 (UTC)