User talk:Ezeu/Archive3

Archive: 17 January 2006 - 3 April 2006

Lewes Priory School entry
Please could you revert the Lewes Priory School entry BACK to what we changed it too. Students keep changing the entry, that is our official blurb, as shown in the comment. If this can not be done please just delete the entry as this is getting too much hassle.

Thank you

80.237.132.33 09:48, 17 January 2006 (UTC)


 * There is a proper place to discuss the article. It is at Talk:Lewes Priory School. Your edit, which I reverted, removed the stub notice and categories, put there by previous editors. This can be considered vandalism, and may lead to you being banned from editing. No one on wikipedia owns an article. They are built by the cooperative efforts of many users, and any user is entitled to edit an article, including your students (who may in fact give a more balanced view of the school than the official blurb). Disagreements are discussed in the articles' discussion page, so that a consensus can be reached. --Ezeu 10:09, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I started discussing it here as you were th eone to revert my revision and call it vandalism, but I can see that is a judgement call. If the categories and stub notices are incorrect and removed because of this then that is still vandalism? We own the image and information about the school though. Not to worry though. I'll investigate other avenues to remove. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.237.132.33 (talk • contribs) 11:15, 17 January 2006
 * Do so.--Ezeu 10:17, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Re List of explorers

 * Well done with the tabulations at List of explorers. Looking good.--Ezeu 15:01, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your encouragement, Ezeu! Please grab a letter to make over should the fancy take you and time avail. In the meantime, do you know much about setting up Wikipedia tables? I have a query prompted by tables elsewhere that I've asked here, but with no response. Perhaps there's a better place to ask, or what I'm asking is too obvious... Best wishes and thanks again, David Kernow 18:38, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I will look at it shortly. --Ezeu 20:30, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I dont think it will work. CSS styles do not allow for table-cell centering to be defined vertically by column.--Ezeu 01:08, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Darn. I thought it would either be something obvious, or not yet implemented. Looks like the latter. Thanks for the quick response. David 02:11, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

A follow-up query, if I may, since you're more au fait with tables than I: Is it possible to combine a cellpadding setting with class="wikitable"? Thus far I haven't been able to do so. Thanks, David Kernow 00:44, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

202.124.137.196
I AM A PRINCESS I DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK

WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE

HAVE YOU BEEN TO THE PHILIPPINES

HAVE YOU VISITED MY PALACE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.124.137.196 (talk • contribs) 02:40, 18 January 2006
 * Your Royal Highness, I am sorry I removed you from the list of princesses, and maybe you are upset because I said Princess Hillary, the Crown Princess of the Philipines is not a real princess. I am really sorry if I hurt your feelings. It is just that I cannot find any information about you anywhere, but I'll keep looking. --Ezeu 02:30, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

your message
hello Ezeu,

absolutely, sorry I wasn't aware that tag existed as well, but yes of course it can be used instead. I just felt the article could be expanded because I am sure there are many more interesting things about Buganda, so thanks for pointing that tag to me. Gryffindor 01:30, 20 January 2006 (UTC) ps: what an odd message left before mine...

Kotomi Yamakawa
I see. Thank you very much! I didn't really understand what the problem was exactly... —Preceding unsigned comment added by CrazyInsaneAnimeFanGirl (talk • contribs) 21 January 2006

Hi Ezeu
Nice to see you are still supporting the Mandela website. It's amazing how many bad edits one encounters - and a lot of work to counteract them. All the best Swissjames


 * Cheers James. --Ezeu 17:55, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Wanyika
Well, Wanyika bands strikes me as a very odd and unnatural title. If this article is now and will remain a list, how about List of offshoots of Simba Wanyika? Or at least, list of Wanyika bands. I changed the dab page, so it should be better. Tuf-Kat 19:19, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. list of Wanyika bands sounds good.--Ezeu 19:27, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Warning
Please stop targeting one or more user's pages or talk pages for abuse or insults, unwarranted doctoring or blanking. It can be seen as vandalism and may get you blocked from editing Wikipedia. Do not remove comments from other users from talk pages. Especially when you are pushing POV and falsehoods. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.210.161.140 (talk • contribs)
 * Which users' talk page? I think you are refering to my reversal of your edit at Nelson Mandela and removal of your trolling at the talk page (I see here that you are prone to trolling). That Mandela was South Africa's first democratically elected president is fact. You asserting the opposite is POV.--Ezeu 00:56, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
 * No, I am not trolling, I am having a discussion. The fact is De Klerk and others were elected democratically.  You are POV pushing by saying the others weren't elected democratically. 12.210.161.140 01:38, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
 * To clairify, I am not denying that he was the first elected by a fully enfranchised South Africa. But just because South Africa did not have a fully enfranchised population did not mean it was not a democracy.  The same was true of most democratic nations in the 1700's and 1800's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.210.161.140 (talk • contribs)

Argument proceeds at Talk:Nelson Mandela--Ezeu 21:03, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Contribution to Tanazania page
Hello,

I tried to add a link to the Tanzania page for an audio interview of a Tanzania resident. The interview is non-commercial, free, and discusses history, economy, culture and more.

My understanding of the Wiki history page is that you removed the link I inserted.

If you did remove the link can you please tell me why you feel you needed to remove it.

Thank you

Jordan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.78.84.195 (talk • contribs)
 * I removed it because I consider it to be spam. It is an interview with a non-notable person, and has little relevance to the article. --Ezeu 02:39, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for answering my question.

I don't think that an interview with a "non-notable" person is uninteresting or not of educational value; but I will accept that the interview is specifically about Pemba Island and not all of Tanzania (the subject of the wiki article).

This was my first experience interacting with someone about appropriate wiki content.

Thank you again for answering my question,

Jordan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrbrunger (talk • contribs)

God help us!
Oi mate,

I am rather distressed by what has happened to the Mandela page recently. I would never have thought that someone had the gall to challenge the FACT that Mandela was the firstly democratically elected president. Not only that, he has added this ugly POV badge at the top. What does one do in cases like this? Sit back and wait? Personally I do not care to debate with him anymore (he is beyond my help) but neither do I want to allow him to compromise the site.Swissjames 21:33, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
 * No need to debate with him as it will lead no where. Lets wait and see if we can get input from more people, and consensus against him. Otherwise we'll just have to settle with a compromise. Actually I added that POV badge with the intention of bringing more people to the talk page to challange him. --Ezeu 21:42, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Reversion of comments
Reverting comments on your talk page violates Wikipedia policy, cease and desist or you may be banned. OrangeMan 00:34, 3 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Go ahead. Find an administrator and report that I have refused to have a dialogue with you on my talk page. By the way, you may want to take a closer look at Wikipedia policies before you run around making threats. --Ezeu 00:34, 3 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia policy disagrees with you, I suggest you read it in detail.

OrangeMan 00:42, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

My apologies for accusing you of *moving* my comment, I was mistaken. Comments on your deletion of comments still stand. OrangeMan 01:07, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Reggae external links
Hello Ezeu, I'm quite surprised you removed almost all the links I put on the reggae web page yesterday. I've spent hours on searching reggae infos on the web (not only on Bob Marley) and believe me the links I've added are among the most relevant ones, and I'm not the only one to say so of course, see reggae litterature, and links on many websites. I must recognize that it may looks like personal webpages, and sometimes it is, but what is important: presentation or content ?
 * http://niceup.com/ Jammin Reggae Archives - A big mess but one of the most important reggae music portal, full of articles, bio, disco, archives, links...
 * http://www.reggaetrain.com/ Also full of bio, disco and info on reggae
 * http://www.roots-archives.com/ Reggae database, very useful to find a cover, who has played on what, label...
 * http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Etapirs/ Tapir's reggae discograpies - How can you keep the Roots Knotty Roots weblink and not the Tapir link. This is the only big reggae discography that is free (contrary to Roots Knotty Roots). If you have to keep only one website on reggae that would be this one.
 * http://www.studiowon.com/studiowon/home.htm Reggae archives, ok can be discussed, even if plenty of info, articles...
 * http://www.trojanrecords.co.uk/forum/index.php Trojan Records forum - simply the biggest forum on reggae.
 * http://incolor.inetnebr.com/cvanpelt/ 400 Years & http://www.reggaezine.co.uk/ Zinc Fence both are reggae webzines with many good quality articles made by specialists of the genre and established for years now.
 * http://www.dancecrasher.co.uk and http://www.johnnyspencer.info/index.html are more than simple blogs or spam (!!!), again there are full of info and very useful for who is trying to learn more on Jamaican music...
 * http://www.dubdirectory.de/ Dub directory: What was the original track used to make this dub version ? Useful
 * http://www.skaville.de/index.html Skaville.de - Maybe not necessary but interesting to understand the influence of Soul music on Reggae...

To be honest, I'm not sure you realize how important these websites are, much more than www.reggaephotos.de for instance ! Why keep this website when there are many other photographers websites...

Please if I'm wrong, explain me what the wikipedia policy on external link is and what are your motivation to keep or delete a link. If it is not a question of relevancy and utility of its content how can we appreciate a link ?

Peace Moulinette 15:54, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, I might have been a bit overzealous when removing them. --Ezeu 16:04, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Stop inserting hate comments
Your recent edits to the talk page on the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy are a violation of Wiki policy. Stop inserting hate comments towards my people! You have been warned. --Valentinian 00:39, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I was out of line. Sorry. --Ezeu 06:54, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Your comment

 * This exchange was initiated at Talk:OrangeMan, but he moved it it to here.--Ezeu 03:14, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

We disagreed once, and apparently you are still aggravated. It seems you have made it your destiny to mess things for me. How far will this vendetta go? You could find better use for your bitter dislike for me – like editing articles etc. Avoiding you has not helped me since you seem to be stalking me. My question to you is:
 * What do you want from me?

--Ezeu 08:04, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not aggravated, you just identified yourself as a POV warrior who has trouble keeping things in perspective. I don't have a dislike for you at all, just the way you attack users and use a demeanor that is inappropriate for Wikipedia.  I monitor the talk pages of all users with whom I have conversed the comment about "hate speech" caught my eye and I went to investigate.  Sure enough I saw something that warranted attention.  What I want from you is to see you become a contributing member to Wikipedia who no longer is uncivil towards other Wikipedians. OrangeMan 14:14, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * According to your list of contributions, many of your edits are intended to mess with me. It would be nice to see you actually contibute to an article for once, and not just chase me around. --Ezeu 15:41, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * No, actually you are wrong. You and I clashed on Nelson Mandela, and article on which you were POV pushing as determined by consensus.  I brought the issue up and helped with the consensus opinion.  That is far more contribution to an article than you slandering users because of their nationality or pushing POV.  Now thank you, but I have no interest in continuing a conversation with a vandal such as yourself. OrangeMan 15:57, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Hopefully this is the last time I'll have to address you. Use your energy to help expand wikipedia, this vendetta is useless. --Ezeu 16:15, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * There is no vendetta, only your refusal to drop your attitude and treat users with respect. OrangeMan 16:21, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Good. I look forward to see you contibute. --Ezeu 16:28, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * A word which given your edits, I doubt you know the meaning of. OrangeMan 16:33, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe, maybe not. I have work to do. Goodbye. --Ezeu 16:43, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Corruption in Kenya
Ezeu, I got 'tagged' at Corruption in Kenya - if you have opinions either way I would be grateful. I think I fixed up the references (just getting the hang of cite.php) but I am not sure what (if anything) to do about the title. Wizzy&hellip; &#9742;   16:59, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Replied there--Ezeu 03:06, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Prod
Deletion review is the appropriate place to have an article that was deleted reviewed for undeletion. Peyna 00:16, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. --Ezeu 00:18, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Ghanaian Children's Writers
(Thanks for the disclaimer; Wikipedia is making me develop a thicker skin but the reassurance is lovely. *g*) As for your question, I'm not sure. i'm going through all the uncategorised writers in Category:Children's writers and sorting them by nationality if I have that information, and as I do I discover how many there are for each cat. For example, a couple of hours ago, there was no Category:Swedish children's writers; now there are four writers in it and I'm not done.

On the other hand, given that it's a pain to delete a category, this method -- though the easiest way for me to determine what categories are needed -- is arguably creating a pain in the butt further down the line when we need to delete the categories.

I could put Category:African children's writers under Category:African writers? Because I think I have one from Zimbabwe, one from Ghana, one from South Africa... I don't like lumping the continent together but maybe it makes sense. What do you think? Deborah-jl Talk 07:02, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I am for lumping the continent together in some cases, however, not many people agree with me on that. Anyway, bearing in mind that wikipeida is not stagnant, and that there are certainly many African wríters of books for children, those categories are probably useful.--Ezeu 07:19, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Please Respond
I'm quite curious about the pervalence of racism, or lack thereof, in European nations. As a member of a visible minority in Canada (I'm half Gambian), I experience no notable racism, apart from the occassional, usually good-humoured stereotype. How is life for a member of a visible minority in Sweden? Are you ever slurred because of your race? Do you ever feel unwelcomed in your neighbourhood or town? Do you notice prejudice in the workplace?

I ask because a 1997 poll I recently found on the internet suggests that about 40% of Europeans declare themselves "very racist" or "just a little racist". Based on your experiences in Sweden, do you believe this poll is accurately representative of Swedish opinion?

I know I sound ignorant, but I'm just curious about racism in Europe. WGee 04:38, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Racism here in Sweden is not something that bothers me much. There is racism, but like everywhere else, it is subtle and institutionalized – the kind you kan overcome by having better grades, by doing a better job and keeping your mouth shut. As for polls and racism, both Norwegians and Danes have voted overwhelmingly for xenophobic right wing racist parties, but in Sweden these parties have always been marginalized. Racism and xenophobia exists, but it is not acceptable in public discourse. The latest party to try seriously, New Democracy, failed miserablely. The largest xenophobic party today are the Sweden Democrats, who have less than 1% support. --Ezeu 06:26, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

RE: AWB
Ouch, I see what you mean :-S... Unfortunately, I'm not an admin, so I cannot undo the damage, but I'll post a note on the administrators' noticeboard. dewet|&trade; 07:37, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism Nelson Mandela
Hi, I see you responded to my note on the discusion page. What is the info about Nobel lauriates doing there?

Regards, Gregorydavid 16:05, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Nelson Mandela is a Nobel Peace Prize laureate. That table is a succession box which shows who preceded him and who succeeded him as the winner of the Peace Prize. --Ezeu 17:29, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Bob Marley Discography
What do you think about a page for marleys live shows? Crisley 03:18, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Image:Mandela Time Person.jpg listed for deletion
An image or media file that you uploaded, Image:Mandela Time Person.jpg, has been listed at Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Ta bu shi da yu 13:12, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Tom Lewis (songwriter)
I see that you proposed Tom Lewis for deletion as being "not notable." I'm not sure it is kosher for me to remove the tag since I created the article, but I would argue that Mr. Lewis is notable. I cite you to the following in WP:MUSIC, all of which are true of Mr. Lewis, and any one of which would render him "notable":
 * Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable). Borealis Recordings, in this case.

See also the qualifications for "performers outside of mass media traditions": Crypticfirefly 02:42, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Has composed a number of melodies, tunes or standards used in a notable genre, or tradition or school within a notable genre. The notable genre being "folk music"-- specifically "maritime folk music." I should add that the "Midnight Special" radio show is a nationally-syndicated radio show dedicated to folk music, which has been broadcasting since the '50s.
 * Is frequently covered in publications devoted to a notable sub-culture. ''Various folk music publications including Dirty Linen.
 * It is kosher. I was wrong. --Ezeu 02:49, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Your vote at WP:CFD
Hello again Ezeu, Did you mean your vote for the above to be (Speedy) rename rather than Delete...? Best wishes, David Kernow 02:18, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, it should have been rename. Changed it. --Ezeu 13:13, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Wailers
Please don't revert me again. i have put my reasons on the talk opage and there is simply no justification for reverting my added input into the article. See Bob Marley and The Wailers, SqueakBox 03:54, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
 * No, I will not revert you (again?). You make it sound like I have reverted you several times. The article is about Bob Marley, and details about non prominent members of The Wailers seemed to be out of place. Anyway there are articles about The Wailers, Wailers Band, the I Threes, Aston Barrett, Carlton Barrett, Tosh, Braithwaite, Livingston etc. etc. – so you cannot really claim that they have been disregarded. --Ezeu 07:43, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Two identical wailers articles? And the redirects? Please add your thoughts to Talk:Bob Marley rather than engaging in edit wars with me, thankyou, SqueakBox 16:05, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

NYT AFD
Thanks for speedy keeping this AfD however I was under the impression that only admins can close AfDs. Mike (T C) 23:43, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 * According to Non-Administrators closing discussions, non-admins may close unambiguous, non-controversial "keep" decisions in which they are not involved. Speedy keeping is probably boarderline, but I didnt expect this one could be controversial. --Ezeu 23:52, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh honeslty my bad, and it wasen't borderline it was very very very bad faith!! Thanks! Mike (T C) [[Image:Star_of_life2.svg|20px]] 05:10, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Project Fubelt
About the changes you made in Project Fubelt. Look at this article about overlinking. You can repeat a link if it is not within one screen or 40 lines. So Schneider could be linked twice. Is there a general rule that says "articles already linked neednt be in 'see also' section"? I don't think so because that is done everywhere. In case you don't have any arguments I will add René Schneider in the see also section. Vints 09:32, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * If you feel strongly about it, go ahead and link René Schneider as many times as you want. It is not an issue I will squabble about. --Ezeu 09:38, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

My feelings.
You hurt them :'-( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.171.59.231 (talk • contribs) 30 March 2006
 * That was a standard warning message because of this, this and this. Those are edits made by you, or by someone using your IP. --Ezeu 20:59, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Uganda Administrative Districts
Please do not remove this section again. It is separate from Geography. Thank you. Rarelibra 15:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Refrain from unsubstanciated accusations of vandalism in your edit comments. --Ezeu 23:33, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Bob Marley removal.
Hi Ezeu, I just wanted to discuss the removal of a part of the paragraph which I added to the Bob Marley page. You're reasoning was that it was 'personal opinion' on my part and therefore not suitable as an information resource. I have to disagree with this as the sentance in question is a reflection of the remarks made by Bunny Wailer, in that 'You can understand why Bunny wanted the records kept out of the public domain, as they represented a commercialisation of the Wailers music, and not the artistic progression which would lead to the 'Catch A Fire' sessions.'

Have you heard the 'JAD sessions' tunes, if so what do you think of them?, do you agree with Bunny?. If you haven't heard them, it might be wise to check them out. The info about the tunes and Bunnys comments came from Timothy Whites 'Catch A Fire' book, and I have the 7" demo in the photo.

I think these 'JAD' tunes may have come out on CDs but if you get stuck I'll fix you up with the two versions of 'Mellow Mood'. Just so you know though...I love both versions !!

All the best, :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by M.Bramble (talk • contribs) 31 March 2006
 * I agree with you. Bunny Wailer's quote says it all. Lets leave it to the reader to make conclusions.--Ezeu 20:15, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Democratic Republic of the Congo
The part that caught my eye in particular was, "Elections currently planned for June 2005." It just sounded like some parts of the article were from a few years back, and while newer information has been added on, some updating could be done to the prior paragraphs.Trilemma 22:05, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * You are right, the article needs updating.--Ezeu 23:26, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

thanks
thanks for fixing it, I spent 10 in trying to ldo the citing stuff. Martinkk
 * You're welcome. Citing can be a bit tricky. --Ezeu 01:27, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Nelson Mandela
Mandela was not the first democraticaly elected prez, he was the first democrtical elected prez in an election open to all people in SA, e.g. Before Women in U.S. could vote, U.S. was still considered democratic,the same goes for S.A. exept replace women with those of dark skin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Martinkk (talk • contribs) 3 April 2006
 * Thank you for your opinion. --Ezeu 09:44, 3 April 2006 (UTC)