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PAK FA air-to-air missiles
Okay, regarding air-to-air missiles, the PAK FA will be using a heavily upgraded variant of the R-77 (Izdeliye 170) called the Izdeliye 180. This missile is not the same as the RVV-SD (Izdeliye 170-1), which is also an upgraded R-77, but not as capable as the Izdeliye 180. The PAK FA will NOT be carrying the Izdeliye 170-1, only the Izdeliye 180. RadicalDisconnect (talk) 03:18, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

source please. --FE53BW (talk) 09:38, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

I have written sources, not online ones. But here are two articles that someone uploaded online. http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,283.msg87967.html#msg87967 http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,283.msg2065.html#msg2065

The Izdeliye 180 is the one with AESA seeker and dual pulse motor, not the 170-1. RadicalDisconnect (talk) 11:27, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

http://rt.com/news/t50-missile-advanced-guidance-643/ K-77M = RVV-SD? I thinked K-77M and K-77ME is depelop for MiG-MFI.--FE53BW (talk) 04:46, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, but I consider Piotr Butowski and Jane's to be more reliable than RT, since Butowski is a reputable journalist on Russian aviation and following their developments for a long time. I believe your RT article got some designations messed up. It also doesn't help that the Russians sometimes like to reuse designations. See AL-41F1 for example. That said, the PAK FA may carry the RVV-SD externally. RadicalDisconnect (talk) 08:16, 31 May 2014 (UTC)