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May 2020
Please do not add or change content without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you.  Acroterion   (talk)   15:08, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * New Haven is emphatically a city, not a suburb, and Yale is an urban campus. The definition of urban versus suburban versus rural is a qualitative assessment, not a quantitative determination.  Acroterion   (talk)   15:10, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi. I wanted to apologyse for my irrefleted changes, that were inspired by two sources of information that differentiate between urban, suburban and rural universities based on the number of inhabitants. However, UTAD should be considered an rural university because of it's location on a countryside town, being surronded by nature, and the fact that most of it's degrees are related to nature, enviroment or agriculture areas. F S oderflA (talk) 15:19, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * That's fine, but please cite your sources and avoid characterizations based on strict computation. The Yale New Haven campus, for instance, is frequently cited in urban planning as an example of an urban campus - New Haven is a largely industrial city, whose problems and their impact on Yale have been extensively researched in academic studies. Keep in mind that in the U.S, a city like New Haven is the urban center of a much larger urban assemblage - Greater New Haven has a population over 800,000, and New Haven is its center.  Acroterion   (talk)   15:28, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * However, I agree that Moscow, Idaho is definitively rural - it's about all there is in Moscow.  Acroterion   (talk)   15:37, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your understanding. By the way, you seem to be someone with knowledge about this type of subjects related to the designation of universities. As such I have two questions that, if you could, I could answer. The first is that Harvard University is characterized as an urban university, even if it is located in a small city adjacent to Boston and not in the city of Boston itself. Why then does it have this designation? The second question is related to the fact that Universities like Columbia or Chicago or NYU are characterized as urban universities, which makes sense since they are located in the largest metropolises in the country, but at the same time other universities that are also located in urban centers but of smaller dimension both have the designation of urban university. Would it not be more correct for the first type of university to use another more specific designation as a metroplitan university? Thank you in advance for your attention. Best regards.F S oderflA (talk) 17:04, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * As I said about New Haven, U.S. metropolitan areas tend to be fragmented into distinct municipalities, and they and the nominal core city may be surprisingly small when examined solely by population. However, Cambridge is densely urbanized and very much in the core of the Boston metropolitan area, and Harvard and MIT are very much urban universities. I wouldn't focus on individual municipalities and consider the urban region as a whole. Cambridge is in the inner core of Boston as an urban center. The population density of Cambridge is higher than Boston's. New York and Chicago are are large urban regions and municipalities at the same time, and their cores are large political entities, so they encompass more schools within their official boundaries. The outer parts of Chicago and New York (Staten Island, for instance) are essentially suburban in nature, regardless of their inclusion in the city boundaries.
 * Again, urban, suburban and rural would be qualitative assessments, based on their environment, not on the governmental entity in which they exist. It's a question of whether they exist in a large urbanized area, and we have to consider the existence of college towns, like Athens, Georgia or Cambridge, England, neither of which are rural at all, nor urban in the strict sense, but are out away from true suburbs or a large city. I would be very cautious about changing the existing consensus for any such organization.   Acroterion   (talk)   18:06, 26 May 2020 (UTC)