User talk:FacetsOfNonStickPans/Archive 5

Nineteen Eighty-Four
Have you read Nineteen Eighty-Four ?(also ping User:Kautilya3)-- Happy New Year! ᗙ D Big X ray ᗙ  13:30, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I have heard the audiobook version more than once. It is a good book. Movies weren't so good. DTM (talk) 13:42, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, a bit, sometime in the 1980s. It didn't register a whole lot at that time. But we had been through an emergency. Amazingly, during the emergency itself, everything looked normal, even better than normal. It was only after it ended that people decried it. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:47, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * DBX, have you read it? Why the question? DTM (talk) 13:52, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, after been hearing a lot about the book since a long time, I finished it this week. I would recommend this to everyone. And especially to people with an interest in politics (irrespective of their ideology). After reading Animal Farm, I was under the impression that Orwell hated socialism, but I read about him that he was actually an upset socialist miffed by the USSR experiment. The book is well written, in the sense that it is able to horrify the reader. I have not seen any film on it yet, but I doubt a film could do justice to the book. It will be very very hard to make. I have heard that the "1984" film made in 1984, is the best made among the ones available, I will probably try it out sometime later, since the novel is fresh in my mind.
 * Kautilya3 I think now will be a good time to refresh and read it again. It is not very long and considering that you already know a lot about Politics and history. This will be a very good reading. -- Happy New Year! ᗙ D Big X ray ᗙ  13:58, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Talking of movies - Indian cinema needs to make a remake of 1984, right now! It will be a blockbuster! DTM (talk) 14:53, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , aren't we all in one, already ?  Happy New Year! ᗙ D Big X ray ᗙ  14:59, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Until we are not in Room 101, we aren't in 1984 at all. DTM (talk) 15:01, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * What would our Indian directors do with Room 101, hmmm DTM (talk) 14:59, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , I think every Ministry of Love building (prison/lockups) has a room 101 already. We call them torture chamber, where the police can get a confession out even from a dead person. As they say, "iska bhoot bhi maanega". (Also check out the top few reviews here )  Happy New Year! ᗙ D Big X ray ᗙ  15:09, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Although you framed it as a question "aren't we all in one, already?" but I will take it as a statement. So if we are already in 1984, then someone needs to write a book about the next level. What comes next? DTM (talk) 05:09, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * "everything looked normal, even better than normal"... was this sarcasm or dark humour? DTM (talk) 05:28, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * No, the truth. Fear worked in magical ways. Trains ran on time, seats became available, power cuts went down, nobody took bribes, not even the the police. There might have also been social positives in terms of family planning and bonded labour etc. Remember that South India voted for Indira Gandhi when the emergency got lifted. North India with its 30% Brahmin-Rajput population got angry, whereas South India used the emergency for its own advancement. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:52, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , I believe the trains also run on time in North Korea. Whenever they do run.  I dont agree with your last part. All said, I would trade in timely trains for liberty any day.  D Big X ray ᗙ  11:55, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * What? Are you trying to make me argue for dictatorships now? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 12:06, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , LoL. I am just trying to point out that we should see things in perspective. Those good things you are pointing might just be a temporary reprieve since those in power wanted to prove that this was for good while the general public were on their toes, unsure of their fate, as this was uncharted territory. Dictatorships are generally more corrupt.  D Big X ray ᗙ  12:13, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for The Idea of Pakistan
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of The Country Without a Post Office
Hello! Your submission of The Country Without a Post Office at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 00:54, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

JNU press note
Have you read the JNU admin press note in this feed. TOI DTM (talk) 05:37, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , not yet. I did read the JNUSU statement. And it spoke volumes.  D Big X ray ᗙ  05:38, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes the JNUSU statement says much more than the JNU admin release.India Today DTM (talk) 06:06, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , this article, Campus violence in India, has huge potential and is a really good start. Of course it is sad something like this should exist in the first place, but then well, it is reality... and Wikipedians are known to be a little fond of the morbid. DTM (talk) 13:41, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think so. Generic topics like this need real scholars to write. If there are journal or magazine articles that cover exactly the topic, they can form the basis of the page. Otherwise, it will just becom a POV cess pit or a purposeless list. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:37, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hmm good point. I overlooked this. On a quick check for journal articles for this topic, there aren't many. DTM (talk) 03:01, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * How ironic, in Jamia no one wanted the police to enter, and were criticized for such, days later when everyone wants the police to enter in JNU, they wait for permission to enter. DTM (talk) 06:10, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , I wonder how much vandalism this page is going to see - M Jagadesh Kumar ... btw is this a good DYK?
 * ... that the VC of JNU is a karate expert? Source: Professor from IIT Delhi, a Karate Expert, Chosen as JNU Vice-chancellor
 * DTM (talk) 07:40, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , "self-confessed Karate and gym expert," is not the same as expert. I am a self confessed expert of a lot of things ;-) . I would suggest using his political inclination or something from his major work. Also JNUTA (teacher assosciation) have written thrice to the president to sack him. That is also a good DYK IMHO.  D Big X ray ᗙ  08:46, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Well they took one step higher than normal vandalism clearly the ABVP hates it. The disruption was getting out of hand, so I was forced to request Protection-- D Big X ray ᗙ  13:26, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Point noted about the DYK :D .... and yes the vandalism on the page was interesting. So that vandalism would be by the so called "right" if you go by the textbook. And the "left" should vandalise the VCs or ABVPs page; but then I guess it doesn't work like that. DTM (talk) 15:32, 7 January 2020 (UTC)


 * These 2 cartoons are awesome, specially last. fyi Kautilya3-- D Big X ray ᗙ  09:03, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * What a lively set of artwork and posters. These are some pics from today which I took at Shaheen Bagh, where they have blocked a road and are still protesting. I placed two relevant ones into the main CAA protests article. -


 * DTM (talk) 15:32, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Phone camera Settings
Please watch this video and then change camera settings to 4:3 so as to get full bang for your bucks. This will allow to crop better.-- D Big X ray ᗙ  16:51, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes I need to mind those ratios. Explanation in the link is helpful. Thnks. DTM (talk) 15:31, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * This is a common problem. I think the option of 4:3 vs fullscreen make it difficult to choose. Anyone who is unaware will choose Fullscreen while in reality, that is the inferior option among the 2. One can always get a fullscreen crop out of a 4:3 pic, but the vice versa is not possible without sacrificing pixels. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  15:44, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, plus the fact that I am not use to taking pictures from this mobile. All my other pictures on Wiki have been from another phone. This one will take some getting familiar to so as to make the most of it as you are pointing out. But as compared to before, I will be focusing less of mobile photography for sometime. DTM (talk) 05:36, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * My ratio for the pics above was set to 19.5:9..... no wonder they looked so elongated. DTM (talk) 06:53, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , Indeed. I think the manufacturers deliberately set it as a default to show a camera covering the entire screen. The users dont know much but they are at a disadvantage in terms of pic quality. Glad that you know all about it now. :D.  D Big X ray ᗙ  10:27, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

A beer for you!

 * I hate to say no to a gift, but I can't accept virtual beer/alcohol. But thanks for the appreciation. DTM (talk) 15:33, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Is it because you hate the "beer" or you hate the "virtual" part. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  15:46, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * :D This is lol - "or you hate the "virtual" part"... but it is because of the first part. I wouldn't say hate, that would be too strong, dislike would do. DTM (talk) 05:07, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , all right. I was not aware so forgive it. It is hard to remember everyone's likes dislikes while giving wikilove. I guess it is better to stick to more safer options like strawberries. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  10:30, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * There is so much information on Wikipedia about strawberries, the article needs semi-protection too! Oh wow, I have hardly touch the surface on that side of Wikipedia. They have there own templates, mango too! DTM (talk) 16:46, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

You've got mail
Thanks,

Smallbones( smalltalk ) 19:17, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Noted. Thanks for the message. DTM (talk) 05:15, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at []
You are invited to join the discussion at [].  D Big X ray ᗙ  20:14, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

going to Berlin, the 18th of January
hi! i am working on https://en.wikinews.org/?curid=2887030# in order to prepare some news, greetings from munich, germany no bias — קיין אומוויסנדיק פּרעפֿערענצן — keyn umvisndik preferentsn talk contribs 05:34, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * קיין ומוויסנדיק פּרעפֿערענצן Hi, I am not sure what you wanted me to do here. DTM (talk) 09:28, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK for R.N. Kao: Gentleman Spymaster
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of The Country Without a Post Office
Hello! Your submission of The Country Without a Post Office at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:26, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
 * DiplomatTesterMan, this needs your attention as soon as possible, to make the article modifications that have been requested. Please also respond on the nomination page. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 09:59, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * BlueMoonset, Sorry for the delay, I've just sort out blanked out with that topic and can't push myself back to it just now. DTM (talk) 12:10, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * And won't be able to do justice to the article so that is a little depressing. At least not now. DTM (talk) 12:14, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok so I was able to carefully read and understand what has been asked. Will attempt it and make changes to the article accordingly. DTM (talk) 09:13, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

G'day
Bhai ram ram. Please move The Establishment (Pakistan) to the main namespace. better sourced than 90% wikipedia articles. 58.182.176.169 (talk) 03:24, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * This has to be sorted out since the content is the same - Articles for deletion/Criticism of Pakistan Armed Forces. Also, I cannot perform the move from Draft:The Establishment (Pakistan) to The Establishment (Pakistan), someone else needs to do it. Other than that, the article still needs to be worked upon. But yes, compared to what it was before, it is in better shape to move. Give an official move request if you want. jai hanuman, jai Shiva. DTM (talk) 07:04, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Information Technology (Intermediary Guidelines (Amendment) Rules) 2018
Hello! Your submission of Information Technology (Intermediary Guidelines (Amendment) Rules) 2018 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Andrew🐉(talk) 21:49, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Are you kidding
This nonsense ? Draft:Tukde Tukde Gang -- D Big X ray ᗙ  15:32, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * DBigXray, it is meant to turn into a very academic and encyclopedia article. Maybe even "Good Article" standard. DTM (talk) 10:29, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , you seem very gung ho about it. I am still not convinced it is notable to have a separate article. IMHO right now there isn't much to write about, other then X called Y etc etc.  D Big X ray ᗙ  11:01, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * You do have a point, there isn't enough content apart from he said she said. Oh, there is an article for Gung-ho too! DTM (talk) 13:35, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Protests
Please help to copy edit for grammar Citizenship Amendment Act protests-- D Big X ray ᗙ  11:01, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Will do in a bit. It is a long one. DTM (talk) 13:35, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , which is why we need more hands.  D Big X ray ᗙ  16:39, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * My to-do list (roughly): The Country DYK nom (done for now), Signpost Stats 2019 article,... then CAA protests c/e DTM (talk) 09:30, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

For your contribution

 * Dey subrata, thanks so much. Barnstars are like a burst of energy. And I really like the picture you added of Republic Day at Shaheen Bagh, the only proper picture showing crowds at the protest site. DTM (talk) 13:38, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Pervez Hoodbhoy
Pretty strong speech. I never heard him giving political speeches before. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:23, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
 * "This is not a country that was made for the Armed Forces of Pakistan. This is country that was made for its people." Lots of the comments like the speech too. The topic for the distinguished panel was "The Never-Ending Battle For The Pakistan Narrative" with the programme blurb itself being rather strong and setting the tone -
 * ''...Pakistan has been in search of one (national narrative) since independence and its contested nature is reflected in the long delay in passing the Constitution, and the fact that the first two Constitutions were passed without unanimous consensus. Hopefully the new national narrative will be more pragmatic than ideological...

''
 * Curiosity got to me so saw the other three panelists too and how they spoke. Hina Rabbani Khar said some strong lines too in a gentler less angry way though - We don't have much to celebrate.... we have done a fantastically bad job... India is a no-go area.... The world we are living in makes Pakistan look almost okay and normal.... Trump selling fear, Boris Johnson selling fear, Austria selling fear, Modi selling fear, I would go on to say, Imran Khan, selling fear.
 * So yes, relatively a much stronger speech by Pervez Hoodbhoy. DTM (talk) 13:06, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * And Hoodbhoy also mentioned Manzoor Pashteen, interesting. DTM (talk) 11:48, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
 * and User:Kautilya3 good share. Hoodbhoy was the product of the pre Zia era education. I wonder if Pakistani education system that was made fundamentalistic by Zia can still produce such open minded thinkers and scholars.  D Big X ray ᗙ  13:18, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
 * You don't know the "leather jacket girl"?  -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:34, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , Indeed I was not aware of this student activist. There will still be activists like her raising their voice against the army rule. But my point was on scholars and thinkers.  D Big X ray ᗙ  13:47, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Please see about 12,000 pageviews in December
|Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2019-08-30/Opinion. I was just checking out why so many pageviews for that article. I'm guessing that there was an article in Croatia that referred to The Signpost article, or that there was a final resolution. I might as well ping here to see if he knows. We should definitely find out if there was a final resolution. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 22:13, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Smallbones, I remember an article Bri had written (Wikipedia not trumped by Trump appointee) which got quite a lot of media coverage, but didn't cross 6000 views. Of course, in Bri's case they took the story, with only two or three of the media outlets actually mentioning Signpost or Bri. I wonder what the difference between the type of media coverage would be. I had actually sent a mail yesterday about the same to GregorB. Please do reply here. It's easier to co-ordinate I guess if this topic happens here rather than at different places.
 * As for this article and what happened in December, narrowing it down, what happened on 8 Dec 2019 (or a day before) - 8379 views peak, with the coming days showing the falloff to 3898 to 378 and then normalcy rather quickly. A quick google search does throw up some basic answers.
 * A comprehensive article was published on 8 Dec in Index.hr - (transl.) "Croatian Wikipedia is such a garbage that its owners even raised their hands" which also has a clear and direct link to the Signpost article. "(transl.) We are not honored by the article The Curious Case of Croatian Wikipedia, which was published in the official WMF online newsletter by GregorB". This was coupled with links on one or two discussion boards off-wiki.
 * But yes would be most apt to answer this in a better way. DTM (talk) 10:11, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking at this. First I should correct you about "Wikipedia not Trumped ..." The author is actually me, Smallbones, not Bri. The total pageviews on that look like 5,344 . Not bad IMHO, for being published on Christmas Eve.  Probably the big difference between the WSJ which mention our article and the index.hr article is the actual link in the index.hr article. So not much for a direct comparison there.  It might have more of a direct comparison with my article and the User:David Gerard article from this January.  But David, besides being a long-term Wikipedian, is also something of a professional journalist specializing in the Crypto field. He's got a tremendous following among crypto-skeptics so high pageviews is something I expected when I invited/arm-twisted his contribution to The Signpost. This isn't an argument to ignore the "extra pageviews" but it should probably be pointed out as a special case.  Now, compare that to my following among readers outside of Wikipedia ... well, possibly it's 1 (my wife), but probably lower. Not much higher in any case. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 14:39, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I concur, Wikipedia_Signpost/2018-12-24/Op-ed, "Wikipedia not trumped..." was by Smallbones with just some copyedit contribution by me. ☆ Bri (talk) 15:14, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppps. I concur too. DTM (talk) 09:08, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Indeed, the Index.hr article you mention is obviously the culprit. (For the record, I was actually not involved at all with it.) While Index.hr is a popular news portal in Croatia, it is nevertheless surprising to me how many people actually clicked that link.
 * Another factor that may have somewhat contributed is, of course, the still ongoing Meta-Wiki RfC that also links back to the Signpost article. GregorB (talk) 22:44, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes the RfC indeed!! That alone has over 75,000 views. DTM (talk) 09:08, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Copy edit of Shaheen Bagh protests
Just a courtesy note that I finished the requested copy edit of Shaheen Bagh protests. Mostly general grammar cleanup, a little tone work and layout, and general tidying. I was unable to find a translation of chaatwallas – some kind of food vendor? – but didn't think it was terribly important to the subject. Nice article, an interesting read. – Reidgreg (talk) 19:03, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Reidgreg, thank you so much! I am linking Chaat so you get an idea if you aren't too sure..... and "wallas" is sort of slang for saying "people".... people who sell chaat. So you are correct when you say a "food vendor". Thanks again. DTM (talk) 12:58, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * User:Reidgreg, to add to what DTM said, Walla (or waala) in Hindi/Urdu means "of" or "about" so Chaat-walla literally means "People of Chaat (dish)" i.e People selling the Chat dish.  D Big X ray ᗙ  13:13, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, cool! Thanks!  I've slipped that back into the article to give it a little more flavour (pun intended). – Reidgreg (talk) 14:25, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Reporter interested in speaking to DiplomatTesterMan
Hello,

My name is Karishma Mehrotra. I am a reporter at the Indian Express. Please email me at karishmaindianexpress@gmail.com. I'm interested in speaking to you about your work on Wikipedia!

Karishma Mehrotra — Preceding unsigned comment added by Missmishma (talk • contribs) 07:50, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
 * G'day, hope you are well. Please could you give a bit of a larger hint as to what this is about over here. I really don't like doing Wikipedia stuff off Wikipedia unless reaaaallllyyyy neeeeeeeded. :) DTM (talk) 13:10, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Sure, of course! I saw all the work you have done on Wikipedia and was thinking of doing a feature about you. Wanted to learn a little bit more about your background to see if it would work. I largely cover technology and society at the paper. This would make for an interesting, off-beat profile of you and a larger look into Wikipedia's landscape in India. You can look up my name online to see my work so far. Let me know if we can chat! Apologies for any mistakes -- am new to Wikipedia editing. Karishma — Preceding unsigned comment added by Missmishma (talk • contribs) 13:38, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for replying over here. I’m really curious as to how you did end up finding my profile, not that it is difficult but that you then went ahead with asking about writing an off-beat profile. You're the first reporter who has gone ahead about a profile as well as the first reporter to ask me about Wikipedia in any way; so that is something really special in itself. I looked up your name shortly after first message was received, an impressive profile and quality articles. No doubts there. It would have been such an exciting opportunity to take this forward.
 * However, I will let this pass. (Why, simple reasons like nervousness and fatigue)
 * There are some really wonderful Indian editors on Wikipedia (both anonymous ones and non-anonymous ones) and from other countries of course who contribute to the Indian part of the English Wikipedia. I am sure you must have come across other suitable Indian profiles other than mine, but in case you need any names, I guess I could suggest a few users. And no worries about the mistakes, I could only spot 2. I've been corrected so many times over here, all for the better. Maybe I am making another one here. Oh well. Thanks again. DTM (talk) 11:54, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Okay, I understand. Let me know if you change your mind. I came across your profile because I was seeing the detailed edits made to the Shaheen Bagh protests page -- and saw that you had made it. By the way, what were my mistakes? Also, could you point me towards the Indian editors you particularly recommend I take a look at?
 * Ah, Shaheen Bagh. :) I will let you know, thanks.... As for mistakes it wasn't anything big, not "mistakes" as such, but simple standard practices on Wiki like signing your posts using four tildes ~ rather than writing "Karishma Mehrotra" or "Karishma" manually. Standard practice so that comments can be authenticated easily and conversation can proceed smoothly and it saves times. The four tildes will auto-generate your signature and timestamp. Also see above how conversations go in a sort of slope. Again for ease of written conversation. You will see the slope, indentations, on every single talk page on Wikimedia. But as I said don't worry but if you plan to spend a bit more time here, this will help.
 * So I typed a message on the Indian discussion board saying you are here and if someone could carry on with this discussion. If no one shows up then I will go ahead and suggest a name or two. DTM (talk) 09:02, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, please note that everyone here is a volunteer  (unless specified otherwise). DTM (talk) 11:52, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * For the Shaheen Bagh protests article, if you go into the [|page statistics] you can be see authorship by percentages. User:Dey subrata has contributed a significant amount of text - 35.9% of the total. Subrata has made 215 edits on the page while I have made 191 edits. (Though going by edit count and text percentage isn't always a good idea, but it gives a start)., any comments? Dey is a more experienced editor than me. DTM (talk) 12:40, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, this is the first time someone associated with media approaching wikipedian here to my knowledge. Not bad and, your crediantials also seem wonderful to me, if that's you and followed by Pratik Sinha at twitter, seems you refrain yourselves from wrong and fake information :), which we have to deal here in wiki also. I am also maintaining the same line as DTM, if you are interested in particular topic, it will not be a wonderful idea, as he properly mentioned we are volunteers here, anyone can be wikipedian, and anything added in wikipedia is based on external resources and citations, we don't add anything on our own, just the words in our own tone, so we don't take credit of anything (except photographs) but we take responsibilities of the edits we do and materials we add. But if you are interested in wikipedia and its importance and its quality and how it works then surely people will like to have words, because we are here for wikipedia, doing edits just because we believe in this open encyclopedia and try to maintain and improve articles here. And, even if you don't have words with anyone, its not a big deal to know about wikipedia, you just need to know the policies of wikipedia thats it, and that too will give you a brief idea about Indian wikipedian along with the different portals and projects under India (starting from politics to sports). Thank you. Dey subrata (talk) 15:02, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * And there is another way too, give wikipedia 30 days, take few articles to improve in which you are interested or create an article, trust me wikipedia will make sure you learn and know everything :), we too learnt the same way, violating policies, getting warnings, referred to different policies, involving in discussion. Thats more interesting way. :) Dey subrata (talk) 15:07, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Sockpuppet by any chance? DTM (talk) 06:54, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * (tps) See this. So not likely. —Sarvatra (talk, contribs) 03:21, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I missed this tweet. Thanks. DTM (talk) 03:51, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Talk page archive bot required
Hey. Do you know how to setup a bot for archiving an article's talk page? Need one for Talk:North East Delhi riots. Can you help, please? —Sarvatra (talk, contribs) 06:26, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * replied there. -- ⋙–D Big X ray ᗙ  06:45, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Howdy, pls review
Bhai, my dynamic IP jumped. Hope you are keeping well and had a great valentines day. I have been keeping away from wiki to enjoy life. Just made some edits today. Please add the following related articles to your watch list, help/review/enhance. Thanks.

1. Jizya: review [my edits there. FYI, I have left a list of concerns on Jizya talkpage.

2. Zakat, I added the new section Zakat: review my edits there. This is still work in progress.

3. Islamic banking and finance, added FATF section there. I left my edit notes and concerns on the talkpage there.

Context:

FATF is the global compliance mechanism against anti "money laundering" (ML) and "terrorism financing" (TF). The obscure "Islamic Banking and finance" is poorly compliant with FATF, this poses a much bigger ML/TF risk. Zakat (and formerly Jizya too) is the main source of channeling legal money into illegal terrorism financing. In short, zakat is one of main source of terror financing, FATF-non-compliant islamic banking is key enabler of laundering money into terror financing, jizya when is was in formerly vogue too was also used for coerced conversion.

What I did and where you can help:

I have provided linkaged/cross-referenced these articles to provide the "standalone context within each article". In some instances, I have copy pasted smaller portion of my own edit to paste in another article to provide that contextual linage. I have been careful to not replicate large taxts in more than than one article. Please feel free to condense and rephrsase to ensure it does not come across as circular or repetitive.

Ciao: I spent whole day on these, bit tired now. I will stop for now. Over to you. Might work on incomplete Zakat tomorrow or another day. "Kacche kaat, jee sa le, ar aish kr bhai". See ya around later. Hugs. 58.182.176.169 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:21, 27 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Will see. Thanks. DTM (talk) 12:36, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Riots
Cool down, you are on the wrong side of wP:BRD. I would suggest you to self revert to remove the list and complete the discussion first. his points are based on followed practice and the justification makes sense. -- ⋙–D Big X ray ᗙ  14:45, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Joining in on the discussion is better than reverting while remaining silent. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:58, 27 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes both of you two are correct. Since I can't seem to follow Wikipedia procedure with that article I will stay away from it for now. DTM (talk) 12:40, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Knowledgekid87, I had taken a walk in the affected areas, which ended up in me going into a dark phase/mood. I'm over it. Sorry. DTM (talk) 13:04, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , I am sure you had enough time to reflect on how politics (and especially the "wrong kind" of politics) directly affects us ?  ⋙–D Big X ray ᗙ  13:10, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * It isn't your fault so i accept your apology. When you get a taste of the political story that you write about...you are then subjected to automatic bias. I am not questioning your views by saying this, I am saying that it becomes harder for you to see things from a WP:NPOV. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:57, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

The need of the hour
is to obtain an image of a Muscular Rama like the one pictured here.

Jai Shri Ram won't fly without it. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 06:56, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * How about this one already on Commons? Or should the search be expanded with some more creativity? DTM (talk) 09:18, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Here is one. DTM (talk) 10:04, 4 March 2020 (UTC)



March Madness 2020
G'day all, March Madness 2020 is about to get underway, and there is bling aplenty for those who want to get stuck into the backlog by way of tagging, assessing, updating, adding or improving resources and creating articles. If you haven't already signed up to participate, why not? The more the merrier! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:19, 29 February 2020 (UTC) for the coord team

DYK for The Country Without a Post Office
--valereee (talk) 00:01, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

OpIndia wants to out me... I am honoured! :D :D
Nupur J Sharma of OpIndia now wants to OUT me too. LOL. This is the tweet.
 * "There are other Leftist editors who are discussing about writing a favourable article on DBigXray now to counter my report. All of this, and Wikipedia maintains stoic silence. By the way, I know who this guy is. I won’t out him just yet."

My name is clearly mentioned on my userpage and I have tweeted it too. I have linked my FB account for you for more information about me since I was born. I am leftist now am I? Lol. "Wikipedia maintains stoic silence" this line means you just don't get this place. There is no one "controlling" wikipedia. Like you are barging in here and kicking people out. But then, you are paid, since you are OpIndia. Do you have a Wikipedia account with a disclaimer saying you aren't paid? DTM (talk) 08:38, 7 March 2020 (UTC) (this is for OpIndia not Aman)
 * Comments? DTM (talk) 08:40, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
You are most welcome.

Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:53, 7 March 2020 (UTC) 

DYK nomination of Jammu and Kashmir Public Safety Act, 1978
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CAB again
I went back to look at what we were discussing when the CAB first came out (copied above). I have a little bit more information on the whole thing now.

I am pretty sure that all the people that came from West Pakistan as refugees were processed and naturalised. The border control was good. People had to report to the officials when they entered India etc. (Problems started surfacing only recently when Sindhis started coming on visitor visas and overstaying. But I will ignore them because their numbers are not significant.)

On the other hand, the East Pakistan border wasn't policed effectively. The Nehru government was also under the illusion that these people would go back to their homes when the situation returned to "normal". So, even people that were given refugee certificates weren't naturalised. Kanchan Gupta revealed on twitter that a refugee certificate was all that his grandmother passed down to her descendants. But it didn't matter a whole lot in those days because their children automatically became citizens by birth.

But things changed after 1987, when the Citizenship Act was amended to say that at least one parent had to be a citizen in order for children to be counted as citizens. Secondly, in one of those ironies of South Asia, Bangladesh persecuted its minorities a lot more after becoming independent than it ever did under Pakistan. Mujib got assassinated soon after independence and the military and the right wing took over. Whereas India would have raised hell if it happened under Pakistan, it remained mute on Bangladesh. The refugees that came from independent Bangladesh vastly outnumber those that came from East Pakistan, something like five to one or ten to one. The people that came, came illegally using dalals who probably minted money. The dalals had political connections, and the politicians were quite happy to accommodate the new vote banks. The trouble is that the Bangladeshi Muslims also used the same routes to enter India and their numbers probably equal or even exceed the actual refugees.

So this is the mess India is now having to deal with. The numbers of people involved is enormous, somewhere between 10 to 20 million people. Somebody said, "equal to the entire population of Sri Lanka". -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:08, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Some editors here sure have stamina! I am so tired of the CAA stuff and the maze of associated articles. But I am trying to rejuvenate enough to finish a leftover task, the entire CE of CAA protest article. DTM (talk) 13:08, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Well that is the problem. There is a lot being said about the CAA protests, but nothing about the CAA. I was hoping that, even though the initial reaction to the CAA was entirely superficial, people would eventually start analysing it. But no such luck. There were some random comments in the Parliament today, I heard, which again got drowned in rhetoric.
 * But, here is the unseemly part. When India decides to give citizenship to Hindu refugees from Pakistan and Bangladesh, while there is no doubt that they face persecution there, and Muslims shout "No CAA", what are the Hindus supposed to say? Thank you for your support but is not your ******* problem? Wrong timing, wrong cause, wrong campaign. It won't get anywhere. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 22:11, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Kautilya3, the legal technicalities of it are a pain just like most legal issues are a long drawn out pain devoid of the type of action that suits most people - Nirbhaya case is just one example. And with regard to the technicalities most people feel hopeless and are not equipped in both time and mental resources to analyse. Analyzing it legally is difficult and to analyse you need to think, a rare commodity. We look up to the people who are suppose to be thinking in times like these -
 * "Delhi Assembly Passes Resolution Against NPR in Present Form: Delhi chief minister Arvind Kejriwal on Friday, March 13, said while Muslims who do not have proper documents, namely birth certificates issued by corporations or panchayat, would be put by the Central government in detention centres under the National Register for Citizens schemes, even Hindus will not be spared.“Either Hindus will have to say that they are Pakistanis or they too will have to go to detention centres,” he said during a discussion in the Delhi Assembly.(The Wire)"


 * And even if a person does think seldom are they in a position to be heard in matters related to the security of the state.
 * "It won't get anywhere"... I think it has already done what it was intended to. The actual implementation and modifications to tone it down etc. are just extra icing on the top now. DTM (talk) 06:39, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

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Regarding Discussion
Hello , Can you please share your views on Here, thanks (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 13:30, 17 March 2020 (UTC))

30 watchers
K3, what in the world! Yes people have more than 100, but they're interesting, I am not THAT interesting! LMAO :D DTM (talk) 13:41, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I think you ARE interesting. But what is the context for this? Or did you just happen to check? I think "30" means fewer than 30. The tools don't show precise numbers under 30. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:25, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, the context for this was that a gadget I am using, XTools, which shows statistics for each page at the top, for the first time, now shows 30 watchers for my user and talk page. Before that it did not show any number. Also, when I see the page information for "User talk:DiplomatTesterMan" (link) it shows 30 now. Even the https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ for my account didn't have a line for watchers.... now it does, with 30 listed. DTM (talk) 08:38, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Cool, enjoy the fame! -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:53, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't like the word fame. We aren't actors/actresses here. It is a easier commodity to get than say, power. DTM (talk) 09:45, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
 * For your message - Cool, enjoy the fame! - I should have just written "Thank you". :D DTM (talk) 10:38, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

helpline nbr
helpline nbr mentioned in government website, can you add nbr in 2020 coronavirus pandemic in India — Preceding unsigned comment added by Royal711 (talk • contribs) 02:18, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 * first off start signing your text please. I have left a more detailed message on your talkpage too. I have never given anyone a large trout and I don't intend this to be the first :D :) Thank you. DTM (talk) 12:54, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

I will keep this in mind Royal711 (talk) 15:56, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Go..Go..Go..Govinda..!
Today world is advancing to latest technology and people across world are learning two new words i.e. Quarantine and Isolation. Even in regions where English is not a common language, people have started using these two words which were earlier limited to the field of Information Technology in those regions. But now these two words are commonly used in Medical Science across the world.

It is really very unfortunate that among these new English words. People are showing intolerance to the word Hibernate. I hope you have enough experience in writing English articles so you would help those people understand this word by providing some simple sentences as examples like:

Q. Why does World Trade Organization goes to hibernate mode when World Health Organization is active in news''' ? '''

A. Because Coronavirus is  ACT OF GOD . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sooryavanshi (talk • contribs) 17:20, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

2020 Delhi riots
Dear User:DiplomatTesterMan, I saw your comment on the talk page of the 2020 Delhi riots article and even prior to it, I wrote an extensive section on the topic. I added many of the new references that you contributed today to the section, as well as to the lede. I hope this helps and hope you have a great day ahead of you! With regards, AnupamTalk 17:06, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Jammu and Kashmir Public Safety Act, 1978
— Wug·a·po·des​ 19:08, 19 March 2020 (UTC) 00:01, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Nothing is impossible in this world!
Where there is a will there is a way — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sooryavanshi (talk • contribs) 12:30, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Sooryavanshi, if the linking is code, I can't crack it I guess :D... and you noticed my FB page! Thank you so much, really! :) DTM (talk) 14:58, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

First edit: Sigh... too slow, no consistency
I made my first COVID-19 influenced edit over on Ministry of Health and Family Welfare at 13:15, 28 January 2020.

The first edit to National Centre for Disease Control was at 13:43, 28 January 2020 DTM (talk) 14:55, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic was created on 21:28, 5 January 2020, 23 days before my first edit influenced by this. DTM (talk) 16:06, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

People!
What's with the removal of content? DTM (talk) 13:39, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Wot removal, DTM? ——  SN  54129  13:41, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Serial Number 54129, oh nevermind. I saw the comment you left over on the users page just now. Back to editing. DTM (talk) 13:48, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, they removed a conversation from here and I restored it, presuming that if you wanted it removed you would've done it yourself  :)  hope all is well irl   ——  SN  54129  13:50, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Serial Number 54129, how did you even get to my page though? Just curious. DTM (talk) 13:49, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Pushpam Priya Choudhary for deletion
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Your GA nomination of Indian Military Academy
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Your GA nomination of Indian Military Academy
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DYK for Siena Piano
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Important Notice
—  Newslinger  talk   10:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Newslinger, you suddenly remembered? Hmmm... DTM (talk) 10:19, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi DiplomatTesterMan, my recent batch of notices were sent to editors who participated in Articles for deletion/2020 Tablighi Jamaat coronavirus hotspot in Delhi. —  Newslinger  talk   10:22, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Newslinger, thank you for the explanation. DTM (talk) 10:25, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Open Secrets: India's Intelligence Unveiled
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DYK for 2020 Jawaharlal Nehru University attack
The DYK project (nominate) 07:04, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

April 2020
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DYK for Open Secrets: India's Intelligence Unveiled
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Indian Military Academy
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Journalists
Sajid Hussain (journalist) and Pulitzer Prize winning journalists/photographers. Wonder if a Pultizer gets them there own Wiki page. Then again it is their images...Mukhtar, Yasin and Channi. DTM (talk) 14:04, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

New message from AaqibAnjum
Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 06:04, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

India 10,000 challenge

 * Add your name to the Contributors' list. Thank you. Dey subrata (talk) 18:25, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:People for Animals Uttarakhand


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interested in fulfilling article requests?
if you have some time and feeling bored, you can create articles on Pathalgadi movement and the Sati–Pati cult. They're quite interesting subjects in case you didn't already know; would make for great DYKs. Sourcing is very strong for both, with the Hindu and various other national outlets. TryKid&thinsp;[dubious – discuss] 15:21, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * TryKid, these are wonderful suggestions. Thanks. DTM (talk) 05:05, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Talking to Strangers
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DYK nomination of Impact of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic on domestic violence
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DYK nomination of Impact of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic on crime
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DYK nomination of Do You Remember Kunan Poshpora?
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Template:Did you know nominations/Mubashir Saddique
As your review required.
 * ALT0 says farm fresh while the source uses the word "garden". Are you sure you want to use 'farm fresh'?
 * The BBC outlook program is a translation. He is a zamindar (farm overseer) so he picks them from his farm. Due to outlook translating his video and other stuff, the word got lost in translation I guess. In Pakistan we don't have gardens in our villages, there are just farms.


 * ALT1 is not that interesting. So many vloggers get very few views in the beginning? Are you sure you want to keep this one? Isn't there any alternate?
 * I am new to all this, could not think of anything.


 * And please just spread out some of the citations as per WP:OVERKILL. Especially where there are four or three together. This isn't a controversial subject that it needs multiple citations in one place.
 * I grouped them in twos, and moved others to appropriate location within the paragraphs,


 * Also, is the controversy section really needed? If yes, maybe simplify it a bit more?
 * I have simplified it so it is easier to understand. I think it should be there because he has become quite well known, but refuses to give interviews etc. to anyone due to his agreement with his village elders. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 12:59, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * MistyGraceWhite Hi. Thank you for the prompt reply. But could you please shift your reply to its correct location - Template:Did you know nominations/Mubashir Saddique. All your future DYKs are to be answered on the DYK nomination template itself. (I can shift it for you if you want). DTM (talk) 13:20, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I shifted the discussion. Any comments related to the DYK nomination will continue over Template:Did you know nominations/Mubashir Saddique. Thank you. DTM (talk) 13:31, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I shifted the discussion. Any comments related to the DYK nomination will continue over Template:Did you know nominations/Mubashir Saddique. Thank you. DTM (talk) 13:31, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Re: India PUA
Hello, I didn't fully understand your message here. Could you please explain further, regards. --Titodutta (talk) 07:23, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Titodutta, hi, I replied over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject India/Indian cuisine personal user awards DTM (talk) 07:01, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

ALT2
I was looking at the Shashi Tharoor's Oxford Union speech DYK nom. The comment "Henry VIII's last wife" was a minor part of the entire speech. The PM ALT1 is better. An idea is to have an Alt covering the impact such as "The video is now Oxford Union's most watched debate" or so. --Titodutta (talk) 03:28, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, the first ALT0 is a little undue. I will make the changes.
 * The problem with this "The video is now Oxford Union's most watched debate" is the sourcing. I only have the proper sourcing for "Within a week of the speech, the video became Oxford Union's fifth most watch YouTube video." (The Independent). In the article, I placed the line "most watched debate" with a YouTube reference to the Oxford Union channel videos section and sorted to most popular videos (this link); but I don't think that would work as a DYK source? It is borderline WP:OR I think? Or is it ok? DTM (talk) 07:16, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Ya, the YT sorting is not the a good reference. 2 more options I see, a) focus on the book, did you knw that following "this" speech deivered at.... the "book" was written? One anothe thought, there is another option, it just came to my mind, it is more direct...


 * "Did you know that in 2015 during a speech at Oxford Union Indian politician Shashi Tharoor claimed Great Britain owes reparations to India and her former colonies? (you may further add a word popular if you want, or play with words)
 * Shorter form of the same alt: "Did you know that in 2015 Indian politician Shashi Tharoor (pictured) stated that the Great Britain owes reparations to India and her former colonies?" --Titodutta (talk) 07:52, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * There! I've given enough hooks (which are properly referenced). Thanks for the suggestions! Cheers. DTM (talk) 09:28, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Impact of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic on crime
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Eid Mubarak
Eid Mubarak everyone عيد مبارك

DTM (talk) 16:06, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Do You Remember Kunan Poshpora?
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DYK for Talking to Strangers
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Badluram ka Badan
—valereee (talk) 12:02, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Ipsita Biswas
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Icons in DYK reviews
DiplomatTesterMan, please, when you use icons in your reviews, place them at the very beginning of the line before any text. When you put them later in the line, or before your sig, it's much harder for potential promoters to see. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:44, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * This had crossed my mind a couple of times but I delayed in asking the question. I will keep it in mind. Thanks. DTM (talk) 03:57, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Over Ground Worker
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DYK nomination of Impact of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic on domestic violence
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DYK for Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on crime
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Do You Remember Kunan Poshpora?
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on domestic violence
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ITN recognition for 2020 China–India skirmishes

 * Congratulations, DTM, for starting this page and keeping it going!
 * All these conflicts have a silver linking. The normally sleeply Wikipedia comes alive and loads of new editors crop up and some of them are really good. We need to try and keep some of them around. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:22, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks. Though it would have been nice if this article could have gone onto the main page in a much more positive way, a blurb saying, - "India China resolve decades old border dispute". Wishful thinking.
 * Catching editors to stay a little longer, yes, it would be nice to have a few more around; they do keep coming and going. DTM (talk) 05:40, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Especially those with varied skills. Photographers. Map makers etc (also wishful thinking :D this isn't a media house with talent on demand :D) Only yesterday I stumbled on this map made by an old user User:Planemad. The map is tagged with a "This is a work of a student or faculty from the National Institute of Design (India), 2020" tag. I found that so cool. There are more with that tag. All it takes is one day a teacher gives a class of NID students a project to make maps and hundreds of Wikipedia articles in turn are illustrated better. DTM (talk) 05:47, 18 June 2020 (UTC) India Pakistan China Disputed Areas Map.png
 * Kautilya3, Oh you were directly implying Mentorship. Got it. It doesn't come naturally to everyone but yeh, it is important. DTM (talk) 11:17, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, not necessarily a formal mentorship, but mentoring in general. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 11:27, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * DBX style. DTM (talk) 15:02, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * User:DBigXray? Also you seem to be a genuinely nice editor, Kudos. Stamped, ⍟ Field Marshal Aryan ⍟  22:07, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yup! BTW you've done a fine job with your signature! Reminds me of Athaenara's Signature Gallery. DTM (talk) 06:53, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Awesome gallery. Thanks for linking it. I did go through a lot of drafts for this sig though! ⍟ Field Marshal Aryan ⍟  09:58, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Field Marshal Aryan, The red ones look really good too. The Indian army's flag colour. (In peace you can sign in red, and in war, green. jk) DTM (talk) 11:34, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Correction
China didn't detain any Indian soldiers.

See

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-53102629

https://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-china-denies-seizing-indian-personnel-during-galwan-valley-face-off-2828683

https://www.dw.com/en/china-denies-seizing-indian-troops/a-53869186 — Preceding unsigned comment added by ILoveEatingBats (talk • contribs) 14:45, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Over ground worker
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Godi Media
Started at Godi Media, Please join there to add the content. Italawar (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:32, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Why me? Why would I be suitable for this? DTM (talk) 03:32, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Riyaz Naikoo
— Wug·a·po·des​ 23:10, 20 June 2020 (UTC) 12:01, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Shashi Tharoor's Oxford Union speech
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

A map and a story
I went here in search of a map, but found a story. Both the map and the story are very interesting. Extremely interesting! -- Kautilya3 (talk) 22:24, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I noticed that Google translate is not able to translate it on its web site. I use Google Chrome as my browser, which automatically translates foreign languages into English. I probably had to configure it somehow to do this. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 07:56, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Interesting indeed. So many history books related to Kashmir just leave out the interaction between Kashmir and the east and far east. I think I need to learn Chinese too! The translation for a line says:
 * This particular line makes little sense. How does controlling the mouth of Galwan river mean controlling Shyok River? Or does Shyok River and Shyok River corridor mean different things?
 * (edit conflict), my browser managed the Google Translation without much difficulty. Though I do think the accuracy needs working on like more google translations for big paragraphs of text. DTM (talk) 09:30, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict), my browser managed the Google Translation without much difficulty. Though I do think the accuracy needs working on like more google translations for big paragraphs of text. DTM (talk) 09:30, 28 June 2020 (UTC)


 * The "mouth" of the Galwan river is in the Shyok valley. We also control all the heights on that side of the Shyok valley. So we can monitor all the traffic going through the DSDBO road, and block it whenever we think something out of line happens there. So your road becomes practically useless.
 * We also think the entire Shyok valley is ours and you have no business being in DBO. But, for the time being, we will settle for the Galwan estuary. Tomorrow will bring what tomorrow will bring. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:40, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * We hit the snake 7 inches below the head. That immobilises it. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:53, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * "The "mouth" of the Galwan river is in the Shyok valley." I was thinking the completly opposite - that Galwan River flows into Shyok River.
 * Ok ok, that is interesting. Thanks for the explanation. DTM (talk) 11:28, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

The internal translation interface of the Google Chrome browser handles it. But if you go to the Google Translate web site and try to translate it, the page self-destructs. Obviously, it is supposed to be the "South China Sea Secret", only meant for the Chinese readers. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:50, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Wondering if you could help me out with article creation
Hello, I am relatively new to wikipedia and I've been struggling to get articles up and running. You seem to be rather expereinced and I was wondering if you could help me out with a couple of draft articles that I have. If you're up to it do let me know on my talk page :)

Debitpixie (talk) 18:07, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Shaheen Bagh revisited. GA Nom
Drat8sub, AaqibAnjum, I just found out that three books have been written on the Shaheen Bagh protests already: Seeing the coverage the protests have, now with these books too, GA seems a notch easier. I will be nominating the article for GA in the next few days so if you are interested in helping out than please feel free. As I am sure you know GAs can take days/weeks to start and then some more days/weeks to review. So any and all help would be welcome. DTM (talk) 14:52, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) Shaheen Bagh and the Idea of India by Seema Mustafa (Speaking Tiger Books LLP)
 * 2) Shaheen Bagh: From a Protest to a Movement by Ziya Us Salam & Uzma Ausaf (Bloomsbury India)
 * 3) Shaheen Bagh Hoon Mein by Ishrat Khan (Blue Rose Publishers)


 * Ya surely, but give me just a week. I will surely fix mos and ce and other structural thing and will do a source review. Drat8sub (talk) 05:27, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Godi Media Draft
Started at Draft:Godi Media, Please join there to add the content. I apologize for the repeated request. Italawar (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:02, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Do you think this deserves its own page just now? A quick look through search results makes it a tough call. Why not redirect it to the Media in India and create a section on that page? DTM (talk) 11:51, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Then again I don't think it will fit too well in the Media in India page, it is more of a naming phrase rather than to do with the actual media of India. As in it isn't a very academic term in the mass communication world as yet. Then again catchphrases have their own articles. I will have to give it more thought to make up my mind about what it is. What do you think? DTM (talk) 11:56, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Consider moving this discussion to the Talk:Media of India or Talk:Godi Media or Draft talk:Godi Media to give it more thought. This way we may involve as many editors as possible instead of confining the discussion here. Wikipedia is a community effort. Let's use this community component. Italawar (talk) 07:13, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Italawar, Wikipedia is a community effort, yes, I do realise that :D. And it has numerous community components, from the main article to the talk pages to the main page etc, I am getting the hang of it but so much is still unexplored. The thing is that my To-do list is never ending. Just sometime back someone gave me wonderful suggestions to work on articles for Pathalgadi movement and Sati Pati cult. I managed to start one of them because it was such an interesting topic. My own User:DiplomatTesterMan/sandbox has so many things to do. I was working on List of slogans used by Narendra Modi offline, when I realized that List of slogans by Narendra Modi had already been created, gone through an AFD and redirected long back in 2015. So all this took quite sometime with no visible result. Also, if you see above maps are part of the conversation. I really need to improve my mapwork if I am to understand and expand LAC related articles properly. So much to do.
 * Coming back to Godi Media, yes the discussion can be shifted :D  DTM (talk) 06:51, 27 June 2020 (UTC)


 * DTM, do you remember when we were discussing the tukde tukde gang, told you someday godi media will be there. However, the topic has a good coverage and surely can be made. This was already in my to do list, told Kautilya too that gonna create the article someday while discussing some funny side of these medias, but did not get time out of the sports project., it can be made, I will expand it very soon, give me some time, in the mean you both expand as much as you can do. Drat8sub (talk) 05:34, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Vikas Dubey for deletion
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