User talk:FactsNotNarratives

site sources? but you keep changing things and I will bring more sources up to contradict your narrative

On George Floyd protests in Minneapolis–Saint Paul
Hello! It looks like you're engaged in an edit war regarding the lede sentence of this article. Rather than continuing to change it article back to the way you think it should be, please discuss the specific changes you want to see on the article's talk page, and defend them based on how they contribute positively to the encyclopedia.

The article on the George Floyd protests currently describes them as "protests" because that seems to be the most commonly used term in reliable sources. "Georgia Floyd riots" is not particularly common, however, the article lede also notes "Minneapolis riots" was used by at least one source. The phrasing "George Floyd riots and protests" is awkward, does not appear in any sources, and is probably not likely to gain consensus.

You also accused another editor of vandalism, something which is unlikely to accomplish anything. On Wikipedia, vandalism refers specifically to intentional efforts to disrupt the encyclopedia, something neither you nor they are doing. This project runs on civility and the assumption of good faith, so please attack content, not contributors.

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Best wishes, RoxySaunders (talk · contribs) 03:09, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Well I have quoted things and he now is claiming plagiarism, so he’s just monopolizing this for himself. That’s not right FactsNotNarratives (talk) 10:06, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

June 2021
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One of your recent edits has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images&mdash;you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Copying text from other sources for more information. Drmies (talk) 15:08, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

You've been edit warring in the article, you accused other editors of vandalism, you simply copied and pasted material from a newspaper article into the text, you've made a series of disruptive edits that, besides a lack of collegiality, also display problematic grammar and mechanicals, and you seem to have an agenda that makes you turn protests into riots. None of this is good. I see one good thing: after a series of IP edits, you registered an account--that's great, and that is what we want, but if the account continues the same disruptive behavior as the IP, then that adds up to the disruption. So please take it easy, because we can't have that kind of disruption. And that's without even considering the somewhat odd talk page edits, on Talk:George Floyd protests in Minneapolis–Saint Paul, where you seem to be proposing the same thing three times, and each time in rather cryptic and ungrammatical verbiage, including stuff about "nodes". On a collaborative project, it is important to know the policies and the guidelines, and to follow conventions for editing and talk page discussion. If you need more experience gaining that knowledge, doing it on a high-profile page is not the best way to learn. And finally, I have to say, this stuff about "neutral ground" and "both sides", that's really just a ruse. We go by reliable sources, and the reliable sources (according to talk page consensus) do NOT support this "riot" stuff. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 15:14, 8 June 2021 (UTC)


 * : thank you very much for your assistance. I was unaware of the copyright violation until it was brought to my attention by another person. I am now aware of that, and would like to find out how to cite my sources in a talk page, maybe if you could help assist me with that, I would be able to collaborate in a more productive way. I do understand there has to be consensus, that’s why I will/have not made any more edits besides speaking on the talk page. FactsNotNarratives (talk) 21:07, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * : if I see an option to preview I would. Also I have been using the help desk, that’s how I was able to fix my errors. Thank you for your help FactsNotNarratives (talk) 21:18, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, in that edit with the quote from the Washington Post, you cited it correctly--but of course I had to scrub that from the history. I don't know how you are editing--the above instructions tell you how to do it from a PC ("Show preview"). When I edit from my phone, with the Wikipedia app, the preview is one of the stages I'm taken through automatically. Good luck, Drmies (talk) 21:21, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I am using a mobile on the web. Perhaps that is my problem. Also I was able to cite on the article itself but not on the talk page. Maybe, the app will help. I will download it after this . I appreciate your help. Good luck to you as well, and thank you very much  FactsNotNarratives (talk) 22:39, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * My go-to expert on mobile editing is ; they may know better what's going on. BTW I saw your talk page post on that article on the square--I'm sorry, but I couldn't follow it. Maybe you can make that more clear. For instance, I don't know what "demands" you were talking about, or who the "they" is in your last sentence. Take care, Drmies (talk) 23:41, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I do 99% of my editing from Android smart phones and I do not use any apps or mobile sites, which in my opinion, are not fully functional. I use the desktop site which is fully functional on the Samsung miniature computer (smartphone) that I am now holding in my left hand. Similarly, I do not use the visual editor. I edit wikicode directly, which I consider easy to use, and I am not a computer programmer. I am a construction worker and a senior citizen, and it works fine for me. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  00:11, 9 June 2021 (UTC)