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WikiCup 2015 is just around the corner...
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 * In a similar vein, we hope you will all join us in welcoming Jason (Sturmvogel 66) and Christine (Figureskatingfan), who are joining Brian (Miyagawa) to form the 2015 WikiCup judging team. Jason is a WikiCup veteran, having won in 2010 and finishing in fifth this year. Christine has participated in two WikiCups, reaching the semi-finals in both, and is responsible for the GA Cup, which she now co-runs.
 * The discussions/polls concerning the next competition's rules will be closed soon, and rules changes will be made clear on WikiCup/Scoring and talk pages. While it may be impossible to please everyone, the judges will make every effort to ensure that the new rules are both fair and in the best interests of the competition, which is, first and foremost, about improving Wikipedia.

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to Give vote in Afd
Assalamualaikum Brother, plz give your precious vote in this Afd, Articles for deletion/Kalki Avtar aur Muhammad sahib (book) Sharif uddin (talk) 16:03, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

@Sharif uddin, he is an agnostic. Anyway, I think the article should not be deleted. --86.185.186.67 (talk) 17:46, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

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Warning levels
I noticed that you left a user a level 1 warning after he already had a higher level warning... the right thing to do is usually leave a higher or equal (some times when leaving a different warning as you did) level of warning as before. Cheers. -- lTopGunl (talk) 10:21, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter—December 2014


Did you know?

Basic table editing is now available in VisualEditor. You can add and remove rows and columns from existing tables at the click of a button.

The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor. Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on table editing and performance. Their weekly status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.

VisualEditor was deployed to several hundred remaining wikis as an opt-in beta feature at the end of November, except for most Wiktionaries (which depend heavily upon templates) and all Wikisources (which await integration with ProofreadPage).

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You can now use find and replace in VisualEditor, reachable through the tool menu or by pressing ⌃ Ctrl + F or ⌘ Cmd + F.

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Looking ahead
VisualEditor will replace the existing design with a new theme designed by the User Experience group. The new theme will be visible for desktop systems at MediaWiki.org in late December and at other sites early January. (You can see a developer preview of the old "Apex" theme and the new "MediaWiki" one which will replace it.)

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Warning
If you kept on your teasing behavior, i will revert on daily basis all contributions from diffrent IPs. Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.47.76.158 (talk) 15:43, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Who's there? You have made just two edits. Please elucidate this "teasing behaviour". Probably it's a sock of User:SamaaNews, whom I reported for a promotional username. Fai  zan  15:53, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The IP is from Pakistan, and made an edit on my talk page just 3 minutes after I posted on the master's talk. Fai  zan  16:04, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

 * That coffee tasted like a beer, thanks! Fai  zan  08:48, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Negative-calorie food edit reversion
Hi, Faizan. You recently reverted my edit to the page "Negative-calorie foods". I think my edit should have stayed. It was constructive in the sense that it corrected incorrect grammar. The grammar in question was the word "it's" in place of "its". The correct, possessive form of "it" is "its", so as not to be confused with the contraction of "it is". Because of that, my edit was needed. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.28.180.207 (talk) 09:50, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Already done here. My regrets! Fai  zan  09:52, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.
This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult for editors. You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to help this dispute come to a resolution. The discussion is about the topic Operation Zarb-e-Azb. Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saadkhan12345 (talk • contribs)

Badshahi Mosque
Hi Faizan. Please take a look at my comment on the talk page of Badshahi Mosque. I think it is time the unsourced content was deleted.OrangesRyellow (talk) 11:22, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, commented there. Fai  zan  13:11, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Tajik People
I see you reverted a SPA who I suspect is sockpuppet missed at Sockpuppet investigations/Turan22, which I reported. Oddly, I think their edits are correct on Tajik People. The version favored by a group of IPs includes pictures of famous historical figures, but those linked articles do not indicate the figures were Tajiks. I recently went through and removed the unsupported pics. Edward321 (talk) 14:27, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks Edward! And sorry for the late reply. Fai  zan  21:05, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

2014 Lahore Building Fire
Hi Faizan, I have created an article 2014 Lahore Building Fire, But not have much information about the incident. It would be great if you could contribute some thoughts on article page.(  !dea4u   11:06, 30 December 2014 (UTC))
 * OK. Fai  zan  11:12, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ Article moved to a more suitable title, updated, and expanded. Fai  zan  21:14, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Sumanta
Hello, there Faizan, I have given a link of NDTV, where it spoke about Pakistani Casualty , I don't understand your allegation of vanadalism , hence, either prove it or take back your word. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumanta Nag (talk • contribs) 18:18, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello there. We have discussed the figures and claims by Pakistani and Indian officials of the article's talk and there is a consensus for the current version there. If you need any change, refer to the the article's talk. Regarding NDTV, it gives a unique figure of "5 Pakistanis killed" which is contrary even to the BSF officials' claim. Regards. Fai  zan  18:29, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * THe NDTV source does not give the timeframe of the killings too. Fai  zan  18:32, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

And you call this Vandalism, a mail or message would do, now what will be if I charge you dictating at your will, by deleting my entries without a prior notification and suppressing the fact, ok, then here is the latest link:

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/bsf-replies-to-pakistan-firing/article6749665.ece

I will edit the page and continue to do so, at my suitable time, until more news would come forward.

Now, best wishes for your study. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumanta Nag (talk • contribs) 18:43, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Please sign your messages by using four tildes: "~" You need to get consensus for any of your controversial changes. Regarding the link given, The Hindu in the article says: "five Pakistani Rangers have been killed in the exchange of fire since Thursday", and it links this text to this link, which says only two Rangers were killed. Perhaps The Hindu needs to correct, either they should make it 5 in both articles, or 2 in both articles. Nevertheless, no Pakistani soldier's casualty has been reported in January. Fai  zan  18:50, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Fine, I may remove my editing depending upon the Facts emanating in the Future, and what's if, the news of the Casualty bore by the Rangers was not reflected in Pakistani Media, where there are gagging of Media was and are common occurance, where do you authenticate source ? and how you are self asserting your self about non reporting by the Pakistani media of Pakistani Casualty, as non occurrence of their death, then I cann't help, but I must say your charge of Vandalism labelled against me are 'derogatory' amd 'uncalled for'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumanta Nag (talk • contribs) 19:20, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Live in your world of self denial. And One day some body from India, with Admin power will take a cue from you and start reverting all the edit prompting Banning of Edit Option in Both Pakistani and Indian Pages, as happened in Kargil War Page, and will be detrimental for Wikipedia's future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumanta Nag (talk • contribs) 19:24, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't think it has anything to do with the "future". Have you got any source which explicitly says that the Rangers were killed in Xth January 2015? There is no report regarding this in the media, both pakistani and international. A casualty gets reported so fast, a 13 year old girl killed by BSF firing today has been reported in all major Pakistani media sources but not a single international or Pakistani source has reported Rangers casualty. Fai  zan  19:26, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

No point in continuation of chatting with you and debating about 'Future' of Wikipedia, since you are obsessed with the fact of plausible denial well, what will International Media confirm ? Especially When Pakistani media mum about Pakistani Casualty ??? its really pointless now for talking with you, I don't bother either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumanta Nag (talk • contribs) 19:47, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Your latest edit on the article needs discussion. Fai  zan  19:56, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Discussion can not be held against the charge of 'Vandalism' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumanta Nag (talk • contribs) 20:06, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:TALKDONTREVERT. Anyway, I have striked a part of the message left by the Twinkle template, which was intended only for adding incorrect information. You should get the matter discussed. Fai  zan  20:12, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Mate, Vandalisation is generalised into defacing or damaging contents , but in case of me , it appears to be an inadvertent fault, Anyways, lets bury the hatchet, which entry ? You have reverted my entry in NESCOM Burrac as it seems, what striking point is that absence of OEMs of Pakistani origin of different parts of Burraq, such as Sensors, Airframe etc., PK Sengupta's blog matched the similarities, however, there's at least one media source which really echoes the same view of Burraq being the derivative of CH 3 ,

http://archive.defensenews.com/article/20131125/DEFREG03/311250023/Pakistan-Inducts-Armed-UAVs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumanta Nag (talk • contribs) 20:29, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Regarding NESCOM Burraq, the source you previously cited is not a reliable one. It is a blogspot. See WP:RS. It read: "How China’s CH-3 UCAV Has Become Pakistan’s Burraq UCAV." The source you are giving now is a reliable one, but it does not even mention China once. Also your edit at Indo-Pak skirmishes needs discussion at article's talk's thread too. Fai  zan  20:40, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * It mentions China, says: "Observers have said the Burraq appears to be a Pakistani variant or development of the Chinese Rainbow CH-3 UCAV, but little else is known beyond speculation based on the CH-3’s specifications.". Fai  zan  20:42, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * So the source itself says that being a Chinese variant is a theory or conjecture without firm evidence. Fai  zan  20:43, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

There is no ego matters when series producing or developing variants on a proven platform, of any foreign nation, especially when an agreement in this effect really takes place or reached with the original manufacturer, the point I have mentioned not a theory but a strong possibility, but that does not really undermine the benefit for which such types of solution had to be required, India is nothing exception, technical collaboration ranged here from govt. to govt. and company to company to acquire sensitive technologies and the developed nations are much open to the media, in this matter, than us in South Asian region.Now if you want to stick with the official statement emanating out of Pakistani Govt., then its fine for me, but in reality much of the 'Indigenous Tech' are sourced from outside, in South Asia, since we really lack the resources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumanta Nag (talk • contribs) 21:00, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 launch newsletter
Round one of the 2015 WikiCup has begun! So far we've had around 80 signups, which close on February 5. If you have not already signed up and want to do so, then you can add your name here. There have been changes to to several of the points scores for various categories, and the addition of Peer Reviews for the first time. These will work in the same manner as Good Article Reviews, and all of the changes are summarised here.

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The Lochmaben Harper
I reverted your good faith edit because it changed the actual lyrics of The Lochmaben Harper from what they actually are. Carolina wren (talk) 06:48, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Fai  zan  16:17, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

WP:TERRORIST
WP:TERRORIST is not valid here as both the sources clearly mention them as terrorists by inline citations. You should probably revert. Thanks,  ƬheStrike  Σagle   17:35, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:TERRORIST says such labels " are best avoided unless widely used by reliable sources to describe the subject, in which case use in-text attribution." I doubt whether majority of sources say it is the "Kashmiri terrorists". For example,  , all these sources are Indian, but in similar cases of alleged infiltration, they are not using the word "terorist". Even then in the other part, there is no "in-text attribution" in the above diff.  Fai  zan  17:49, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Beats me. I was referring to the sources mentioned in the article. Fine with me. Cheers,  ƬheStrike  Σagle   17:52, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

January 5 casaulities
I read on some Indian sources that 2 Pakistani civilians were killed [] and [] also there is a claim that there was a brief lull on January 4. So according to Express tribune the two civilians were killed on night when the brief lull was accepted by both sides. So i think express tribune might be mistaken on it [] Correct me if i am wrong Zerefx (talk) 20:36, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * A woman was killed first, then a boy was murdered earlier the day and after this got reported, the shelling caused the deaths of two more Pakistani civilians. The Express Tribune also reported 1-2 deaths before, but then updated it to make it 4. See the archived report of Tribune. The total murders for today are 4. For example see,  . Hope the confusion is clear.  Fai  zan  20:56, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Okay thanks for clearing my doubts :) Zerefx (talk) 07:35, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Islamic Terrorism
You said it has "nothing to do with foreign policy". of course it does. Clearly shows the rise of terrorism because of western foreign policy according to U.S department of state. If you click on the reference it ll show you the number of terrorism in Iraq since 2003 also. Please explain. Saadkhan12345 (talk) 17:03, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
 * What has the "Rise in Islamic Terrorism" to do with "western foreign policy"? Why did you put it in the top? It also used non-neutral wording as your paraphrasing interpreted the US and allies as "aggressors invading Afghanistan and Iraq". That is not an invasion, but an effort to restore peace, retaliation for the September 11 attacks and War on terror. Fai  zan  17:16, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
 * If you look at the article...it says "Motivations and Islamic terrorism" and than underneath it a sub-section on western foreign policy. According to U.S department of State...terrorist activity has significantly increased in Iraq and Afghanistan post invasion. Im not intrepreting them as "aggressors" but thats what the graph says that their action in Iraq and Afghanistan have led to a significant increase in those countries which is not something hard to comprehend as their will be some who will retaliate since they oppose the invasions. Saadkhan12345 (talk) 21:45, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree that this type of terrorism increased greatly after the 9/11 as per the graph, but the graph itself is not saying that the foreign policy is responsible. It's not the US State Department that relates the rise in Islamic terrorism with the Western foreign policy, but it's the author of the article, John Rees, who claims this, and it is his personal opinion. Fai  zan  23:00, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

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OPZ dispute
I think its wasting both of our time but you have to remove the term "Afghan" from the militants. I mean seriously the only known militants attacking pakistan (living around durand line) is TTP. Afghan militants is wrong term to use there. Saadkhan12345 (talk) 00:09, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Am I the only one opposed to this? Why don't go to the article's talk? Why don't you read WP:CONSENSUS? Fai  zan  00:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

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The Barnstar of Diplomacy!

 * Thanks Ash! I was suffering from ill health and underwent a surgery here this week. I am OK now, and back here. Fai  zan  19:33, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Just returned from the hospital past hour and started Wikipedia. Fai  zan  19:55, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

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Results of Chawinda
"The victory in this battle was attributed to Pakistan" cannot with a citation that is not available anywhere or it has no mention anywhere outside en.wiki. See WP:FAKE.  Occult Zone  (Talk • Contributions • Log) 18:27, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * @User:OccultZone OK, I have replaced it with sources from the infobox. Fai  zan  18:45, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

you re not replying on the matter at Operation zarb-e-azb
Look brother...i told you once before. if you ignore the invitation to form a consensus on this than i will take it as a yes. Saadkhan12345 (talk) 23:04, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Stop calling me your brother and son, and stop your claims of ownership. I am open for a discussion at the article's talk. Fai  zan  09:31, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I am open to a civil discussion, last time in your comment, you called me as "my son". Do you still think I will reply to such rudeness? Fai  zan  09:33, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * yes and I apologized for that and also "brother" is not an offensive term. I do not know where you got ur dictionary from. Remember you blackmailed me that if i do not do this that than blah blah blah will happen. You do not seem interested in forming a consensus anymore. If you are, I am open. And claims of ownership? Have you forgotten about the following disccussion: here. Now its not wise to point fingers and blame each. I do request you to stop with that and lets stop wasting each others time and I do not have to apologize every time for something like calling you a "brother" and so remmber to assume good faith and my sincere apology for any harm that I may have caused whether in words or any other form. 16:47, 1 February 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saadkhan12345 (talk • contribs)
 * @ I am open to a discussion too. Please reply at the article talk and explain why you think that the references provided for "Afghan Militants" are wrong? If you think we can change it to more precise wording such as "Militants based in Afghanistan" or "Cross-border attacking militants", then you are welcome too. Fai  zan  16:55, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Section cited at Talk:Operation Zarb-e-Azb. Fai  zan  17:03, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I say cross border attacking militants would be wise. Saadkhan12345 (talk) 17:28, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Congrats. That was it, but please do not call someone as your son again. And I think that you should get a username change, you are not a new editor now, get this "12345" removed. Fai  zan  17:31, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * hmm lol I think Ill let the 12345 stay since its here for a reason. Although I have stopped calling people my son on wiki. Really relieved that its resolved. On the other side...it introduced me to a lot of wiki policies etc. So lets not waste time on something useless like this in the future. Saadkhan12345 (talk) 20:48, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for 2014 Kunar Offensive
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VisualEditor News 2015—#1


Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's appearance, the coming Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.

The Wikimedia Foundation has named its top priorities for this quarter (January to March). The first priority is making VisualEditor ready for deployment by default to all new users and logged-out users at the remaining large Wikipedias. You can help identify these requirements. There will be weekly triage meetings which will be open to volunteers beginning Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 12:00 (noon) PST (20:00 UTC). Tell Vice President of Engineering Damon Sicore, Product Manager James Forrester and other team members which bugs and features are most important to you. The decisions made at these meetings will determine what work is necessary for this quarter's goal of making VisualEditor ready for deployment to new users. The presence of volunteers who enjoy contributing MediaWiki code is particularly appreciated. Information about how to join the meeting will be posted at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal shortly before the meeting begins. Due to some breaking changes in MobileFrontend and VisualEditor, VisualEditor was not working correctly on the mobile site for a couple of days in early January. The teams apologize for the problem.

Recent improvements
The new design for VisualEditor aligns with MediaWiki's Front-End Standards as led by the Design team. Several new versions of the OOjs UI library have also been released, and these also affect the appearance of VisualEditor and other MediaWiki software extensions. Most changes were minor, like changing the text size and the amount of white space in some windows. Buttons are consistently color-coded to indicate whether the action: The TemplateData editor has been completely re-written to use a different design (T67815) based on the same OOjs UI system as VisualEditor (T73746). This change fixed a couple of existing bugs (T73077 and T73078) and improved usability.
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Search and replace in long documents is now faster. It does not highlight every occurrence if there are more than 100 on-screen at once (T78234).

Editors at the Hebrew and Russian Wikipedias requested the ability to use VisualEditor in the "Article Incubator" or drafts namespace (T86688, T87027). If your community would like VisualEditor enabled on another namespace on your wiki, then you can file a request in Phabricator. Please include a link to a community discussion about the requested change.

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The Editing team will soon add auto-fill features for citations. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to contribute to the Citoid service's definitions for each website, to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections.

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Islam, a religion of peace, not war.
Hello i changed some info on the page Islamic terrorism today, i just wanted to ask a question, is Islam a religion of war? if the answer is yes than how are you alive, well your name Faizan appears to be from Asia, Pakistan maybe, it is a muslim name so hope you know about Islam. But if the answer is no then how can we say the terrorists are following Islamic knowledge? That just blames the whole religion, but if we just add a line saying, ‘following their own interpretation of the Quran and Hadits then it makes more sense. Hope you understand what i mean. Salam — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.14.79.35 (talk) 03:28, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * How am I alive? So you do agree that Islam is potent enough to kill me in either case? I would not share my personal thoughts, anyway. Your edit added personal commentary: Terrorists are not Muslims, they are only so called Muslims and “following” Islam. Faizan (talk) 05:15, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Such a comment on the top of the lead? The role played by the Koran is disputed. We already have enough clarifications on the article: "The role played by the Qur'an, Islam's sacred text, in opposing or in encouraging attacks on civilians is disputed." Faizan (talk) 05:17, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

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Some concerns about activities at Agnosticism
Hi there Faizan, I'm bringing this issue to you as one of the two most substantial editors for the above article (the other being ). I have the article in question watchlisted and I noticed a substantial edit to it yesterday that I decided to investigate. I discovered that several reliable sources and the content they support had been removed, on the grounds that they were not academic sources, based (apparently) on a glaring misreading of WP:V. The user seemed to be new, so this wasn't all that surprising, but the more I looked into the matter, the more I became suspicious. The user in question has all of five edits on the project and tried to force this same edit a few months back. They "discussed" this matter with on the article talk before trying to force this issue, but IIXVXII also has relatively few edits that are largely in the same spaces and seems to be pushing for the same basic changes to the article, using similar language, and I find a similar situation with  and. There are a number of additional short-term accounts over the past 15 months or so who have only a few edits to their name that have altered the article in a somewhat similar manner, but the case for these is not as strong as the association between the four above.

I wouldn't say the case is a slam dunk with regard to sockpuppetry for all of the accounts necesarily, but it's enough to send up a red flag for me, and I thought you should be notified. If it is a case of socking, the user in question is not being super disruptive as they are waiting months between inserting controversial edits and making an attempt discuss the issue on the talk page (though their understanding of policy with regard to the edits in questions seems weak and they seem to be relying instead on reiterating their subjective/OR opinion through multiple voices, hoping it will simulate or generate consensus to support their changes. Anyway, hope this is of help to you; let me know if it goes to SPI.  <font color="#19a0fd">S <font color="#66c0fd">n <font color="#99d5fe">o <font color="#b2dffe">w  I take all complaints in the form of epic rap battles 03:06, 28 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi guys! I do not have control over the account. I have stopped editing the page, because I got busy/distracted with other things. If you guys know of anyway I can prove the accounts are unrelated let me know. Otherwise, I guess you have my word, whatever that is worth. I agree that I do not have a complete understanding of the policy with regards to the edits, but I learned as best I could and minded the feedback of other users. Anyways, I maintain that all of my edits were well motivated and improved the quality of the article. balljust (talk) 10:19, 28 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for taking the time to respond here, and for doing so civilly despite the suspicion I've alluded to. For the record, Kylerops also has denied the implication and given that there is really no outright disruptive behaviour going on here, I'm willing to take you both at your word on the matter (not withstanding the fact that I'm the one who decided to raise the issue in the first place).  As to proving the accounts are unrelated, there's no absolutely certain method, but if there was disruption and some suspicion of socking we could/would very quickly get to the matter through a checkuser process at WP:SPI.  But I'd just as soon not waste our collective time on that.  Other editors may feel otherwise, which is why I brought the matter of my suspicion to the two most prolific contributors of the article, so they could make an informed decision accordingly (since I'm not guaranteed to be working on it indefinitely).  But given your response, I'm happy to assume good faith and believe the activity that struck me as red flags may just be coincidence (which does of course happen).  On a side note, I probably should have just hosted this on my page and pinged everyone from there, Faizan included...apologies for the clutter, Faizan! <font color="#19a0fd">S <font color="#66c0fd">n <font color="#99d5fe">o <font color="#b2dffe">w  I take all complaints in the form of epic rap battles 13:34, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 March newsletter
That's it, the first round is done, sign-ups are closed and we're into round 2. 64 competitors made it into this round, and are now broken into eight groups of eight. The top two of each group will go through to round 3, and then the top scoring 16 "wildcards" across all groups. Round 1 saw some interesting work on some very important articles, with the round leader owing most of his 622 points scored to a Featured Article on the 2001 film Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within which qualified for a times-two multiplier. This is a higher score than in previous years, as had 500 points in 2014 at the end of round 1, and our very own judge,  led round 1 with 601 points in 2013.

In addition to Freikorp's work, some other important articles and pictures were improved during round one, here's a snapshot of a few of them:
 * took Bumblebee, a level-4 vital article, to Good Article;
 * worked-up the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 article, also to Good Article status;
 * developed an extremely timely article to Good Article, taking Magna Carta there some 800 years after it was first sealed;
 * And last but not least, worked up a number of Featured Pictures during round 1, including the 1948 one Deutsche Mark (pictured right), receiving the maximum bonus due to the number of Wikis that the related article appears in.

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Nomination of Noita for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Noita is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Noita until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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