User talk:Falastine fee Qalby/archive1

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 * Thanks for welcoming me. --Falastine fee Qalby (talk) 05:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

My apologies
I'm really sorry about that. I reverted my edit and commented on the talk page. As you said, I wasn't aware of that discussion and I really appreciate you taking the time to discuss it before you add something like that. I have seen a lot of people do that and I guess I'm a little jumpy because we're getting slammed with vandals because of today's featured article. Again, my sincere apologies for the trouble. Thingg &#8853; &#8855; 05:19, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Arabic Wikipedia
Hi Falestine fee Qalby, please have a look at your Arabic Wiki talk page. Thank you. Yamanam (talk) 08:22, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Salam
Just wanted to establish contact/say salam. PinkWorld (talk) 01:46, 15 January 2009 (UTC)Pink

salam just wanted to pass this along PinkWorld (talk) 20:58, 22 January 2009 (UTC)Pink

salam Indeed, it is the work of my own hands. It is part of my website, but I have not linked it on the main page or linked the main page to it. Inshallah I can get other sections finished and HTML'ed. PinkWorld (talk) 00:11, 24 January 2009 (UTC)Pink

Photos and categories
Thanks for uploading the photos to the Commons! Categories can be difficult to use correctly. Usually one puts a photo in the most specific categories, but not their parent categories.

So the edit by Danny-w (see diff: ) was correct.

Please upload more photos to the Commons. --Timeshifter (talk) 02:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

January 2009
This is your only warning. The next time you make a personal attack, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. ''http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2008%E2%80%932009_Israel%E2%80%93Gaza_conflict&diff=prev&oldid=264397987 Cool it...'' Cerejota (talk) 04:48, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

^The other user instigated my comment with "get out of the f* way", and only I get the warning? Good one Cerejota. Karma is a you know what.--Falastine fee Qalby (talk) 04:52, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Get a thicker skin. There is borderline crap, and then there is crossing the borderline. You crossed the borderline, patently so. You will get blocked, these articles are under sanctions, so the threshold is much lower than in other controversies (hence a single warning). My suggestion is, if you feel you had been attacked, do not counter-attack, but seek dispute resolution, or better let it slide. If you get a troll, and feed it, don't cry when it bites you. Talking about double standards, I am supposed to be some spokesperson for Hamas, except when I am some kind of Zionist Zealot. *yawn* --Cerejota (talk) 05:02, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Could I seriously give a rats ass what people have accused you of? I haven't formed an opinion on you, I see you loling a lot on the talk page and posting pictures of soap frequently, and that's what I know about you. --Falastine fee Qalby (talk) 07:46, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


 * You are doing great work uploading photos, etc.. As a new editor please don't be baited into any back and forth time wasters. This article is under WP:ARBPIA which means much stricter enforcement of civility and edit warring rules. We lose many good editors who let some baiting and trolls suck them into some kind of civility and edit warring battles. Then the good editor gets banned, or blocked for a long time. --Timeshifter (talk) 04:08, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

ISM photos
Yes, please upload more photos from http://www.flickr.com/photos/ismpalestine - thank you for what you have already uploaded.

I archived the ISM instructions in the resource section at commons:Category:2008-2009 Israel-Gaza conflict.

With Flickr photos you have to run your cursor over the icons under the photo to see the Creative Commons license link.

I would suggest not stressing too much about inserting the photos into the articles too much for now. Others can fight that out. You might help insert some now and then. But I suggest trying to abide by WP:1RR. I try. :)

You can let people know on the talk pages about the photos, and what some of the most relevant photos are. But these free photos are very important and very hard to find normally during wars and conflicts. Please upload more. Wikipedias in many languages will use the photos. --Timeshifter (talk) 04:33, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Palestine
Maybe when things settle down at 2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict, you could give WP Palestine a helpful hand. Salaamat brother! --Al Ameer son (talk) 03:24, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Useful Pic?
assalamu `alaykum The pic at http://www.amnesty.org/sites/impact.amnesty.org/files/PUBLIC/Regions/MENA/palestine-rubble-560x400.jpg is from http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/israelopt-immediate-access-humanitarian-workers-and-observers-essential-20081231 and is copyrighted to the AP Graphics Bank. PinkWorld (talk) 21:34, 21 January 2009 (UTC)Pink

Eh, this whole picture issue has me completely confused. PinkWorld (talk) 23:54, 21 January 2009 (UTC)Pink

salam Even if we cannot use the pictures themselves, I am certain that we can use the captions. These following should explain the morality of the IDF, for example.

Israeli soldiers leave Gaza homes in devastated condition Amnesty International 23 Jan 2009 http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/israeli-soldiers-leave-gaza-homes-devastated-condition-20090123 images In a Gaza home, Israeli graffiti next to a mirror reads 'For the sake of a resident of the south [of Israel], get rid of Hamas' © Amnesty International

Israeli army graffiti in a house in Gaza reads 'Next time it will hurt more'. In the star it says 'Israel' © Amnesty International

Israeli army graffiti in Gaza. Inside the star reads 'Ismail Haniyeh is the son of a whore', outside 'We came to annihilate you' © Amnesty International PinkWorld (talk) 04:40, 27 January 2009 (UTC)Pink

chill
yo sometimes you would be better off not typing those responses, it makes people so much more entrenched in their position. it would be better to calmly and rationally explain why they are incorrect than running the same bullshit they are. Nableezy (talk) 23:25, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Siculo-Arabic
Please reference your additions to the table on the Siculo-Arabic article, or reverting them (unfounded information) shall be justified. Thank you. the roof of this court is too high to be yours (talk) 00:39, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean for you to not make your contribution, but similar changes were made on a related article and they were cited. I'll attempt something myself and inform you when I do (your opinion will be appreciated). the roof of this court is too high to be yours (talk) 01:01, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Militant and police count
Listen, I am not going to argue with you, you are going against the consensus of the majority of editors made in a prevous discussion. Read it before pushing your point of view. And what's that talk about flowers I realy don't get it. Here is the reference you are ignoring where a police spokesman cites the number of 231 policemen killed, so that official statement torpedoes the PCHR's statement of only 167 police killed, second this reference  states that 390 of the dead are not civilians, stating 167 of them are police (which is obviously wrong since the official number was given by the police), so what are the remaining 223 dead according to you. Of course they are militants. But, listen if you sum up the number of 158 militants killed with 231 policemen killed you get 389 which is preaty close to 390. The 167 number may not even be wrong because they probably counted among those policemen only the ones that were not affiliated with Hamas, the rest of the policemen were probably counted as militants.BobaFett85 (talk) 20:07, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Statements like these "so what are the remaining 223 dead according to you. Of course they are militants." reveal that you haven't read the source you keep pushing and keep citing. The source you provided says "The rest, or 223, were combatants...." It is not according to me. BTW How can you reach a consensus on misrepresenting a source? Do you know the rule about in-text citations? You represent the meaning without attributing to the source any other information not provided in the source. Your claim that PCHR counts the policemen with the militants in the number 390, is a complete lie. BTW, PCHR counts combatants not Hamas militants meaning combatants include non-Hamas fighters while civilians can count in non-combatant Hamas members. Accurately representing a source is what the issue is. I don't know what the police spokesman's statement has to do with this. --Falastine fee Qalby (talk) 21:10, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Listen, first of all, don't be rude, I didn't accuse you of lying now did I? Be polite. Second, read this previous discussion . It was previously discussed and agreed by five editors, including myself, that the IDF considered the cops as enemy combatants. There was a problem to distinguish militants from policemen. So we decided to lump both the cops and militants together in the infobox. The number 700 given by the IDF was agreed to hold both policemen and regular militants. And the 390 number, which is given by the PCHR, has been stated to NOT BE civilians, so they are eather militants or cops. You are claiming they didn't count the cops and militants together but they did, by stating the number 390, which are all non-combatants killed. And they even said that the 158 number given by Hamas is propaganda on their part. Furthermore I never said that the killed were exclusivly Hamas, now you are lying, there were others like Islamic Jihad. If you realy want to know, at one point during the previous discussion I myself proposed we stated combatants, instead of militants, but many editors had a problem with this because they didn't see ALL of the cops as militants so we agreed to put Militants and policemen since the number stated by the IDF 700 and by PCHR 390 includes both militants and policemen. Listen, you can not change the fact that 390 is the number claimed by PCHR of dead combatants. End of story. And if you try and accuse me that there were no other editors that reached a consensus in the previous discussion and that I am lying again, when you read the previous discussion through the link I provided you will see that me, Nableezy, Fipplet, Superpie, Tundrabuggy, Rabend. But, you should know that since you did participate in that discussion on one occasion claiming the police has no political affiliation. I'm sorry for being so blunt but how stupid is that? They don't call them the Hamas-run police force for nothing.BobaFett85

Added Section to Site
salam I added a section on international law to my page on the Genocide in Gaza. The new section is extremely rough (sorry). PinkWorld (talk) 06:07, 27 January 2009 (UTC)Pink

RE: Arabic Wikipedia
W Allaykom Alsalam, well actually the destroyed orphan center's pic is still there but it was removed to a new subarticle (Timeline of the assault) you can find it here here.

And concerning the Zeitoun article, I think it would be a good idea and In sha'a Allah I'll continue editing it. Regards. Yamanam (talk) 07:54, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Just wanted to say hi
Ahlan wa sahlan. I've noticed your edits and am very impressed. Have you seen the WP:PALESTINE project pages? We can use people with your knowledge and skills there to help improve the thousands of articles associated with the project. If you every need any help, advice, etc., you can post there. Salamat.  T i a m u t talk 12:49, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I just say the project tag on you page now and realized what a dumbass I am. Excuse me for being repetitious, but welcome anyway.  T i a m u t talk 12:50, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey there, please have a look here and give your opinion. Yamanam (talk) 11:26, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I will look at the above shortly Yamanam. Falastine fee Qalby, I am indeed Fastiniyyi. I have unfortunately never been to Yemen. I's a dream of mine to go there. Because I live in Nazareth though, I carry Israeli citizenship, and I'm not allowed to go there or most other places in the Arab world. It's a tragedy really, how cut off we are from our Arab brethren everywhere. I was very happy to see on Al-Jazeera though that the demonstrations in Yemen, and elsewhere in the Arab world for Gaza were huge. Keep up the good work Falastine fee Qalby. Falastine fee Qalby wa ruhi kaman.  T i a m u t talk 13:17, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Shukran habibti, but don't worry too much about me. Those attacks took place in Upper Nazareth, not Nazareth itself. Upper Nazareth is 80% Jewish and 20% Arab. It was established by Ariel Sharon in the 1950s to prevent the old city of Nazareth, which is entirely Arab, from expanding. Most of the Jews living in Upper Nazareth are poor, immigrants from Russia, Ethiopia, etc., who are on the fringes of Israeli society. I view the attacks to be as much an expression of boredom, poverty, and marginalization as they are of racism. Israeli society has a lot of problems that are glossed over as they focus on the conflict. If the conflict ever did end, I wonder what would happen between Israeli Jewish society itself, which is highly fractured and ridden with racism and class problems? Anyway, thanks for your concern and take care of yourself.  T i a m u t talk 13:17, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Sliem
Don't take me too seriously. the roof of this court is too high to be yours (talk) 16:44, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Sliem/salam


 * I guess if you weren't trying to be offensive than no harm done. :]--Falastine fee Qalby (talk) 16:55, 5 February 2009 (UTC)