User talk:Farheen Rasheed

Reference?
Is there a reference that can be added to confirm her birth in 1925? As article stands now, the infobox change has 1925 but the Lead and other text has 1927. David notMD (talk) 16:37, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I don’t have reference but she was my great grandmother and we celebrated her 96th birthday on 25th August 2021. She was always clear she was born in 1925. Farheen Rasheed (talk) 16:40, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia requires verification via something published. Was there an obituary in a newspaper? Does not need to be available on line. David notMD (talk) 19:22, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

May I ask where the false information of 1927 is verified from? Farheen Rasheed (talk) 20:27, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The article was created 9 January 2023 with a citation that she was 95 when died, so that editor used that to calculate that her year of birth was 1927. More recently added refs describe her as 97 or 98 when died, and 1927 or 1925 as year born. I have changed the other three mentions of year born to 1925. If someone reverses that, then a discussion on the Talk page is next step. David notMD (talk) 22:36, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes a lot of articles have mentioned different ages for her. She was 96 when she died, a few days short of being 97. I am trying to get a death certificate and will update when I get hold of it. Thank you for making the changes! Farheen Rasheed (talk) 01:27, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 * A death certificate is not an accepted reference, as not a published source. A newspaper obituary would do, both to confirm year of birth and age at death, and also if it contained other facts about her that would be of interest. P.S. As a family member, you have what is considered a conflict of interest (see WP:COI), and per Wikipedia policy should not be editing the article directly. Perhaps best to be satisfied with it as it exists. David notMD (talk) 04:20, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Right so an official government document is not acceptable form? How is someone else writing about her a proof of her age? There was probably no obituary because her death was widely covered by media both written and live coverage. Majority of articles get her age wrong because Wikipedia has falsely stated her age. So yes most of the articles you have mentioned get her age wrong because they get it from this site. Maybe it’s a conflict of interest to add material content, which I haven’t but only stated a fact as a family I would know for sure. As her family member I knew her exact birth date and year, how is it coming from the direct source less relevant than someone who wrote an article on her? My only reason for changing the year is because this site is leading to a lot of articles falsely stating her age. Farheen Rasheed (talk) 10:24, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Confirming that Wikipedia does not accept government documents as references. Your personal knowledge is considered original research, also not allowed. The article as it now exists correctly states year born (1925) and death in August 2022. It does not need to state age at death. Most readers do not bother to look at the references, but what I just did was remove what had been ref #4, because it had both her age at death (98) and year born (1927) wrong. I replaced it with a reuse of ref #1. David notMD (talk) 13:39, 28 January 2023 (UTC)