User talk:Farm65


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EAR request
Hi. With regard to  your request  at  WP:EAR I  have reviewed your draft  again. After making some minor improvements to  the prose, I  then reviewed all  the linked sources. Here's what I found: Unfortunately, together, these links do not  support notability per WP:GNG  or WP:ORG  for organisations. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:22, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/courses-jmgay/SustainableAg.htm is a page that lists resources and has no  text. If  indeed the Kerr Centre is listed, it is not a reference, and at best  this link should be  listed as an external link of general  interest  for sustainable farming  and not  for the centre for which  it  has no  direct  relevance.
 * http://www.istl.org/04-summer/article5.html is a personal aczdemic paper, and if indeed the Centre is mentioned in  it, it  is not  a reliable, established published source that  asserts notability.
 * Horne, Jim; Maura McDermott (2001). Unable to comment  as I  do  not  have access to  the work  cited. Someone will  have to  go  to  a library  and check  this out.
 * http://voices.rodale.com/thriving-sustainable-agriculture-in-oklahoma/2011/07/10/ is a blog and therefore not  admissible for notability  purposes.
 * http://swtimes.com/sections/business/area-ranchers-farmers-cope-drought.html: the centre is only fleetingly mentioned in  connection  with  something  one of its staff  onece said. Although probably  a reliable newspaper, the article is not  about  the Centre and does not  confer notability.
 * http://www.southernsare.org/Professional-Development: this talks about SARE but  does not  mention  the centre at  all.

Organic farming
Since you're clearly trying to avoid WP:COI problems, please be more careful when adding links against a conflict of interest. --Ronz (talk) 22:41, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ronz. I admit I am puzzled over what constitutes COI-free editing in this regard.  The addition I'd made to the References section in the Organic Farming article, while published by an organization I'm affiliated with, is directly relevant to the page topic, it's educational (as opposed to promotional) in nature, and the author has another publication (published by a different organization) already cited in the article.  Please explain....  Farm65 (talk) 22:59, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for responding. There's a lot to editing with a coi. Here's the standard COI note for editors, that summarizes the coi issues nicely:

Hello, Farm65. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may need to consider our guidance on conflicts of interest.

All editors are required to comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view content policy. People who are very close to a subject often have a distorted view of it, which may cause them to inadvertently edit in ways that make the article either too flattering or too disparaging. People with a close connection to a subject are not absolutely prohibited from editing about that subject, but they need to be especially careful about ensuring their edits are verified by reliable sources and writing with as little bias as possible.

If you are very close to a subject, here are some ways you can reduce the risk of problems:


 * Avoid or exercise great caution when editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with.
 * Be cautious about deletion discussions. Everyone is welcome to provide information about independent sources in deletion discussions, but avoid advocating for deletion of articles about your competitors.
 * Avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Spam).
 * Exercise great caution so that you do not accidentally breach Wikipedia's content policies.

Please familiarize yourself with relevant content policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you.
 * As you can see, adding links is one of the main concerns.
 * Putting aside the coi for a moment, just adding links to a reference section without making any corresponding changes to content or otherwise indicating what the link verifies is inappropriate as well.
 * What I think you intended to do was add the link as a general reference or resource. In that case if it were appropriate it would go in the External links section, and WP:EL applies.
 * In the case where you have a coi, the general solution is to bring it up on the article talk page for others to review and decide if it should be added.
 * Hope this makes sense. While Wikipedia may not be a bureaucracy it can certainly look like it at times. I hope this doesn't dissuade you from contributing. --Ronz (talk) 18:10, 23 January 2013 (UTC)