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Welcome...
...to WikiProject Croatia - and Croatian wine is quite a start... GregorB (talk) 20:54, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

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Re: Miroslav Kutle
Sure, no problem, I'm glad you started it. It's not terribly hard to find newspaper articles -- if you use the Croatian version of Google, which is slanted towards local sources :) --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 16:17, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi
Hey, good work on the Josip Račić article. Keep it up! '' Timbouctou (talk) 23:24, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

European Coastal Airlines
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Mato Celestin Medović
Another fine job... As Timbouctou already said, keep it up! GregorB (talk) 12:52, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Croatian Museum of Naïve Art
Yet another fine job and a candidate for WP:DYK, I should say. There is an obvious hook, something along the lines that the museum is deemed to be the first naive art museum in the world, and there are reliable sources to back it up. So what do you say - we tweak the article and perhaps expand it a bit and then I'd nominate it for the DYK? GregorB (talk) 18:30, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I'd be very happy to expand the information and try for DYK. It's a lovely little museum with some wonderfully creative art and deserves to be more widely known. I'm a bit wary about the sources, though. My impression is that everyone has copied the words directly from the museum's own website - so they're not exactly independent. I'd really like to see something with more authority behind it, an art publication or similar. I'll see what I can find. Farscot (talk) 19:39, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I see what you mean, that was my impression too looking at the sources. In particular, the hook I mentioned is a rather bold statement (which is what makes it interesting), and technically it cannot be faulted (being supported by multiple reliable 3rd-party sources), but generally speaking more variety would be nice. For DYK purposes, there's no need to worry about the length - the article is at 4200 chars or so, and the DYK cut-off is only 1500. A bit of tweaking, a couple more refs, and we're there... GregorB (talk) 19:54, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * As far as I can see, this really was the first museum of naive art, despite being called a gallery up to 1994. The next oldest I can find is in Jagodina, Serbia (1960), followed by Midan in France (1973). It's not clear when MIAN in Brazil opened to the public (it's the world's biggest collection) but it was open to groups by appointment only as recently as 2008. Farscot (talk) 21:04, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I've been browsing some sources this evening... Just various tourist guides at Google Books, some bits from there might still be used. A couple of solid Vjesnik articles. Not great, but will do. GregorB (talk) 21:38, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I just added a new section on special exhibitions which provides some nice evidence of international recognition and cooperation with other institutions worldwide. Nothing about that claim to be first, though. Farscot (talk) 22:07, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Wonderful reference at MSU - it was part of the Zagreb Municipal Galleries which gives it a very solid footing in terms of museum status. 12 good references so I felt justified in removing the refimprove tag. Does it have enough now for DYK? Farscot (talk) 22:55, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * A nice expansion on special exhibitions, and the sources look very good now. No more photos that I could find, though. (One might add photos of paintings, but these are copyrighted, and fair use would be somewhat questionable for an article about the museum.) The article is absolutely ready, I'm going to nominate it tonight. GregorB (talk) 16:46, 24 February 2011 (UTC)


 * The article will hit the Main Page tomorrow at noon GMT. GregorB (talk) 09:44, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Croatian Museum of Naïve Art
Materialscientist (talk) 12:03, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Award
I hope you will continue your work. --Wusten fuchs 13:03, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Deserved a while ago, but Croatian art of the 20th century really nails it down... GregorB (talk) 08:20, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Ivan Tišov
Sorry I should have been more specific but you have a list of Works but no source for where you got the titles and their years of publications from. Jamietw (talk) 14:36, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Ignjat Job
A very nice job - as always, I might add... Job died 75 years ago, so his paintings are public domain now in most countries, including Croatia, and are OK to be uploaded to Commons. I've just done that with his auto-portrait, and will upload a couple more.

In fact: same might be done for some other artist biographies that you've written... This applies to all artists who died before 1949 (see PD Croatia on Commons). If you have some ideas, I'm volunteering to do it... GregorB (talk) 20:16, 27 June 2011 (UTC)


 * This is how things go regarding photographs of 2D artworks, under Croatian law: they are all considered reproductions, not original works. So, if the original artwork is copyrighted by its author (all living authors and those who died in 1949 or later), so is any photo of it. If, on the other hand, the original artwork has lapsed into public domain, the photo is also public domain. So, if we take Job's paintings as an example, it doesn't matter who reproduced them (photographed them, scanned them, etc.) because all reproductions are public domain, which also means that permission is not required. Given these facts, it might be preferable to use professionally made reproductions, such as those from online galleries. Note for example the credits on the 1931 self-portrait: 1) source (from where was the image taken), and 2) location (e.g. gallery that owns the painting - beneficial for both the readers and the gallery in question). GregorB (talk) 21:36, 27 June 2011 (UTC)


 * By the way, I'm thinking this is a DYK candidate too. I'll probably nominate it by tomorrow, after adding the images. GregorB (talk) 10:15, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, if there is an article that benefits from images (both in terms of information and aesthetics), then it's an article about a visual artist... Looks fine indeed. And now it's nominated for DYK... GregorB (talk) 19:02, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Goes to the main page on 3 July, 9 a.m. GMT. GregorB (talk) 15:53, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ignjat Job
Materialscientist (talk) 08:02, 3 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Congratulations once again... Job's photo made it to the main page although I did not use it in the nomination, a pleasant surprise for me. GregorB (talk) 14:55, 3 July 2011 (UTC)


 * The article got 4100 views, that's very good. I did 13 DYKs thus far and the best I got was 3100... :-)
 * Also, an interesting coincidence: my DYK #14 will be the Museum of Broken Relationships, which happens to be located right across the street from the Croatian Museum of Naïve Art. GregorB (talk) 07:47, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

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 * Thanks, I'll rewrite that section Farscot (talk) 07:30, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

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