User talk:Fasouzafreitas

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Olá!
Hello, Fasouzafreitas, I saw that you've been contributing a lot for Brazilian articles, so I thought you would be interested in taking part of WikiProject Brazil. There, you will find people interested in Brazil, and the talk page, where users may make requests of any sort. Oh, and you could maybe read our politics towards neutral point of view. Take a look at this edit of mine in the page São Lourenço, Minas Gerais, which you recently edited, and you will know what I mean. And be careful with the English grammar, even though every help is welcome and I myself have already been involved with problems regarding my non-native English skills. E se preferir conversar em português, fiquen à vontade, embora a idéia de que todos aqui na Wikipédia em inglês possam nos entender seja mais interessante. ;) Cheers! Victão Lopes I hear you... 15:49, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikimedia Stories Project
Olá!

Meu nome é Victor e eu trabalho com a Fundação Wikimedia,organização sem fins lucrativos que apóia a Wikipédia. Estamosnarrando as histórias inspiradoras da comunidade Wikipedia em todo o mundo, incluindo os dos leitores, editores e doadores. As histórias são absolutamente essencial para qualquer organização sem fins lucrativos para persuadir as pessoas novas para apoiar a causa, e nós sabemos que a vasta rede de pessoas que usam a Wikipedia tem muito a compartilhar. É importante transmitir a incrível diversidade de pessoas que vieram a contar com a Wikipédia todos os dias.

Eu gostaria realmente a oportunidade de entrevistá-lo para contar a sua história, com a possibilidade de usá-lo em nossos materiais, em sites de nossa comunidade, ou como parte de arrecadação de fundos este ano para incentivar outras pessoas para apoiar a Wikipédia.

Eu vou estar em São Paulo a partir de 1 - 2 de Março de 2012, e eu vou estar presente:

http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Encontros/WikiSampa/WikiSampa_12

Eu estou esperando que você vai elaborar sobre a sua históriacomigo. Peço desculpas por qualquer mal-tradução nesta mensagem (talvez possa inspirar uma risada?) Estou usando oGoogle-traduzir no momento, mas o plano de ter tradutores disponíveis quando estamos no Brasil.

Por favor, deixe-me saber se você está inclinado a participar doProjeto Histórias Wikipedia!

Abraços,

Victor Grigas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Victorgrigas

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Hello!

My name is Victor and I work with the Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit organization that supports Wikipedia. We're chronicling the inspiring stories from the Wikipedia community around the world, including those from readers, editors, and donors. Stories are absolutely essential for any non-profit to persuade new people to support the cause, and we know the vast network of people who use Wikipedia have so much to share. It's important to convey the incredible diversity of people who've come to rely upon Wikipedia every day.

I'd really like the opportunity to interview you to tell your story, with the possibility of using it in our materials, on our community websites, or as part of this year’s fundraiser to encourage others to support Wikipedia.

I will be in São Paolo from the 1st - 2nd of March 2012, and I'll be attending:

http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Encontros/WikiSampa/WikiSampa_12

I'm hoping you will elaborate on your story with me. I apologize for any mis-translation in this message (perhaps it might inspire a laugh?) I am using Google-translate at the moment, but plan to have translators available when we are in Brazil.

Please let me know if you're inclined to take part in the Wikipedia Stories Project!

Thank you,

Victor Grigas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Victorgrigas

vgrigas@wikimedia.org

Victor Grigas (talk) 17:46, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

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New image of Brazilian plug/socket
Hi, I see you have uploaded a new image which claims to be "Two- and three-pin plugs and electric outlet (standards IEC 60906-1 and NBR 14136)." But, I am sure that you aware that although NBR 14136 is based on IEC 60906-1 it is not identical to that standard. It is not correct to imply that the devices in the image comply to IEC 60906-1! Also, the two pin device appears to be a charger, not a plug. I am sure that your image represents a valuable addition to the WP articles, but only if it includes an accurate description - which must include the rating (10 A) and correctly describe what is portrayed. Also, I do not understand why you have displaced the existing images of a 20 A Brazilian socket, you should add your image to the relevant articles, not replace the existing image of a different socket. Please make the necessary corrections or your changes will need to be reverted.

Thank you, Deucharman (talk) 14:40, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi. Before saying anything, I would like to apologize for any mistake. I use English Wikipedia a lot, but only for reading and research. I read English well, but I don't write it well as people is supposed too.
 * First: I was unaware that the two standards were not identical.
 * Two: The two-pin plug is from a cell phone charger (Nokia), but it's identical to a real plug (insulated pins, etc.). The three-pin is also belongs to a charger, from a Sony Vaio laptop. Is it wrong to call them plugs? I didn't know this, sorry.
 * Three: the existing image was also taken by me and it's not correct. That outlet wasn't meant for larger pins. It's identical to the other one I've photographed now. Thinking about the question, I've remembered what I've done. It's written in the outlet, it was up to 20A, not that it was 20A. Got the problem? That old photo was taken by me in a small park in Campinas, Brazil (the city where I live in since I was born) in 2009 (when the new standard began to spread) and it is the outlet for an electric bubbler (or water fountain). You know that's not a large appliance demanding an exceptional current or in a high voltage (in Brazil it's 120/127V Hz or 220V 60Hz, but some appliances - a/c, electric showers, etc. - use 220V 60Hz even in cities with 120/127V 60Hz) and the plug was not loose inside the outlet. So, it's not a 20A outlet and that photo has had a wrong description all over these years. I confess: I've never seen these "special" outlets for larger appliances. My fault.
 * Four: knowing the truth now, you can take all the measures you need to. Actually, the new photo shows a 10A 127V 60Hz outlet. Do what would be be better for Wikipedia's sake. Best regards, Fasouzafreitas (talk) 21:27, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I just found your answer and moved it here where it should have been, not on my talk page! In answer to your question about chargers and plugs, the upper image (2 pin) is a plug top charger, it is not correctly called a plug, the lower image is a plug, the charger is at the other end of the cable.  The original image IS correctly labeled, and if you look you will see that it clearly states on the socket that it is for 20 A, which is the 4.8mm version of the Brazilian standard socket.  The new image is of a 10 A socket.  You have now introduced a new error by describing the new image as being an (127V/10A/60Hz) outlet, the socket is rated at 250 V, even if it is only connected to a 127 V supply!  I have removed the new image from the English Wikipedia articles.  If you want to put it back I suggest that you first correct the image file itself, and then use it, with an accurate description, alongside the existing image of a 20 A socket.  Deucharman (talk) 09:51, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
 * In pt.wiki, answering is made this way I've done. Why am I supposed to lose my time photographing a 20A plug? Just because you want to? You have removed my photo: it'll be better to have not any photo at all, don't you think? I do. I have a larger plug (I've found one unexpectedly this week) and I could take a photo of it. But acting this way, why should I do it? You don't improve things, just adapt them to your taste. Fasouzafreitas (talk) 23:31, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
 * No one is suggesting that you take another photograph, but to give your recent photograph an accurate description, both in the image file itself and also wherever it is used. It is nothing to do with taste, only accuracy.  Deucharman (talk) 23:44, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, and if I take a photo only with the 3-pin plug and the 10A outlet? For me, it's simply unacceptable keeping the rare standard. I want to replace it for far more common and normally expected standard. If it's only a question of accuracy, as you are telling me, I'll try it and I want to see it. But you'll make the description for the replaced photo, in en.wiki articles, right?  Fasouzafreitas (talk) 00:12, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The existing image should not be deleted, it is a valid image of a socket which meets the standard, but I have edited the English description and requested a file name change as it is wrong to name it after a standard to which it does not comply. I have now also edited the description of the new image and requested a name change for that also. Deucharman (talk) 00:22, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

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