User talk:Fbakirdan

How does one have a personal attack removed from discription? Specificaly definition for a company called Cyrk line item entry July 20, 2007. It seems that someone has logged in and input a personal comment about me "Frank Bakirdan" that is derogatry in nature about me which is untrue and has no bases being apart of a decription about a public company. Only facts should be stated and if needed backed up with documents.

Please contact me to let me know how this can and will be corrected.

Frank Bakirdan


 * Looking into it. // roux   18:51, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I have removed the offending line. I presume the rest (the company shutting down) is true? // roux   18:54, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the assistance.

Unfortunately the statement about the company going down or taking a downturn after Jeff Werner and I joined is not accurate. The factors involved were the economy and the major downturn our main clients endured due to lack of consumer confidence. The company made a decision in August of 2008 to downsize the number of employees to match current economic trends. However this approach did not have enough of a positive impact to adjust the direction of the company. The decision was made by the CEO with the approval of Sun Capital Partners, to liquidate all assets. I am not sure at this date if this has been completed. Therefore the statement "After hiring Frank the company soon took a huge drop in sales, released nearly half of their staff and are close to shutting down at this point", would be considered slanderous and is not accurate and should be removed.

Frank Bakirdan


 * I don't see it as slander as written, he was hired, was unable to save the company (happens a lot), and the company failed. It doesn't say that he caused the failure, just that teh company failed after he took over, which seems reasonable enough. -- Terrillja talk  01:24, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

The way it is written it implies that he is to blame for the dramatic drop in sales. It should be written as "After Frank's arrival he attempted to adjust sales responsibilities domestically as well as internationally but with the major down turn in the economic state of the country as well as abroad his efforts to save the company did not materialize." The implication needs to be adjusted in a way not to disparage an individual.

Thanks for the assistance.

Frank Bakirdan


 * Frank, while I understand that you want to clear your name, Wikipedia isn't the place to try and adversise what you did to try and save the company. I have edited the bit about you sightly, but I am not going to add original research or other peacock terms to make your time there sound better. As written now, it simply says that you came there, there was drop in sales, company shut down. Facts, nothing about how you caused anything, and nothing about how you had a rough economic climate. I feel that as written it is fair and impartial. Hopefully this version is satisfactory for you, if not, drop me a note on my talkpage. -- Terrillja talk  05:07, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Terrillja - Thanks for taking the time to look into this. However the facts in this section are incorrect. Frank Bakirdan's offical start date was in January of 2008. Also the statement that sales went down soon after his hire is incorrect. The fact is that the first quarter of 2008 was the most profitable for Cyrk in 7 yrs. Cyrk made more money in the first quarter of 2008 then it had in total for the past 3 yrs. The downturn in sales and profitability did not occur until almost the end of the second quarter of 2008. This quarter was flat with no gains or losses. However the third quarter of 2008 starting in July was when Cyrk experienced a major shift in corporate and consumer purchasing direction. This was the beginning of the recession for Cyrk. By the end of this quarter Cyrk had experienced a more than 35% drop in sales volume. That is when the executive committee which included all upper management decided that Cyrk needed to right size the company to weather the storm. Layoffs were announced and executed. However by the beginning of the fourth quarter all signs pointed to a major downturn in business in all sectors. Cyrk's books showed the deepest losses and Sun Capital Partners, the entity that owned Cyrk, refused to put any further funding in place which caused Wachovia, the financing arm, to pull Cyrk's credit line. This happened the second week of November 2008. Within the next 2wks Cyrk missed 2 covenants which basically put the nail in the coffin. With no capital for basic expenditures Cyrk had no choice but to look for a buyer. With no one stepping forward to acquire the company Cyrk began the process of selling off on-hand inventory to pay off all outstanding debts. At this point Frank Bakirdan was released from employment from the company. So as you can see the information given to describe what happened is not accurate.

If you would like you may use parts of what I have written above as factual information. Being that this company was private I am not at liberty to divulge and financial records. Once again thanks for all the help in resolving this issue.

Frank Bakirdan


 * Yikes, TL;DR. I would suggest talking to Terrillja on their talk page. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 17:23, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Frank! I'd just like to remind you that we are an encylopedia, and therefore rely on reliable, secondary sources to ensure that all the information is verifiable and from a neutral point of view. Unfortunately, some of the information you appear to be providing does not seem to be referenced by a reliable source anywhere, and as such is classed as original research. It also occurs to me that the information provided is not from a neutral point of view, which is one of our core 'pillars', and as the information is undoubtedly about yourself, you also appear to have a large conflict of interests on the subject. Please can I ask you to follow these policies and guidelines in future. Thanks, :-)  Stwalkerster  [  talk  ]  17:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)