User talk:Fedia

keystroke logging changes
Hi Fedia, regarding your removal of commercial links on this article, can you please see the article's talk page and join the discussion? Thanks! --Cheezyd 07:23, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Fedia, I'm interested in discussing some of the changes that you're making to external links. While some of the links you're deleting are commercial, and that's another issue altogether, others aren't really but they're being deleted outright, IMHO. I'd like to see what your thought process is. Thanks :-) --Isthisthingon 20:43, 12 September 2006 (PST)

Hi Fedia, I am noticing that you are following many of the internal links that I have been adding to relevant subjects and would like to know your reasons behind it. I am starting to notice a pattern with this and would like to give you the benefit of the doubt. Would you please be so kind as to explain why you keep removing internal relevant links from pages? Apparently I am not alone in this. I am going to add them back again and will continue to do so as I am following the reccomendations that occasionslay pop up for me from moderators and bots. Techie guru 13:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Techie guru, I am not convinced that the internal spectorsoft page is anything more than promotion of a company placed there for purely commercial reasons. Please stop your internal link spamming or I will nominate the spectorsoft page for complete removal. We would prefer if yourself and others do not exploit the Wikipedia. Regards, Fedia --Fedia 17:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

On another note, I would support the removal of the keylogger.org site as it does not seem independent at all (there are buy-now links all over it). --Fedia 17:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Fedia, I feel as if you are targeting what I am doing and have filed and AMA request because of that reason. There have been quite a few wikipdians that have mentioned that you are on a crusade for removing anything you deem as spam. I seem to have an objection to that as you are entitled to do that, but you should at the very least have the respect to discuss the issue prior to removing something before you consider it to be spam. As for that article, you are aware that it is about the largest and most successful keystroke logger to date? It is not really fair that one can let external affiliate links that are for the sole purpose of profit stay, yet another wikipedian who actually takes the time to write a rather indepth relevant article and link it with other relevant articles is not necessarily fair. With regards to being convinced, I am not entirely convinced that your removal of the internal links is for your own commercial ventures. I have added the internal links at the suggestions of bots and also other wikipedians, I do not understand why I am being told it is ok to do something, yet you have done this consistently to me, and also to others. Not every person that link or suggests an internal link is a spammer, and to be quite honest it is offensive to know that one specific person out of several seem to be the final word on what goes? That is not being fair at all, and until someone other than you informs me that I am spamming (which i am not) I will continue to add those internal links. You have chased a few people away, but I am here to contribute, not dictate. Techie guru 21:30, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Fedia, I wanted to make one last attempt at trying to resolve the issue that we are facing. I can understand your point of view on the issue, but I really do not agee with it. If this was about an external link, yes, I could agree with you, but this is not about an external link, this is about an article that is not spammy, there are thousands of words in that article, a spammer would not have spent the amount of time researcing the facts, in my opinion, they would have dumped an external link to a site. I did not do that.

With regards to these articles you are removing links from, you are aware that those articles are 100% relevant to the SpectorSoft article, right? While many of my recent activities are internal links that were reccomended under the direction/advice of bots and members, I have contributed more than that to Wikipedia in the form of content additions.

A spammer would simply not do those kind of things and I would appreciate it greatly if you would please reconsider implying that I am one. Please let me know your thoughts, and please try to understand that I do not want to cause any issue, I am just following the advice of bots and other members with the internal linking and when you keep following every move I make, it is defeating the purpose of trying to follow that advice. Regards, Techie guru 11:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Techie guru's request for assistance
Hello, I am Bushcarrot, a member of the AMA. Techie guru recently requested for assistance. I understand that there is a problem. First off, would you mind if I discuss the issue on your talk page? Bushc a rrot ( Talk·Desk ) 02:56, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Bushcarrot, thanks for getting in touch. I have no problem using my talk page to address Techie Guru's issue. Looking forward to discussions. Regards, --Fedia 16:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Apologies for taking forever to answer back, but how would you describe the problem? Bushc a rrot ( Talk·Desk ) 03:37, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Bushcarrot, thanks for getting back to me. Techie Guru seems to be bent on promoting his Spectorsoft company page by linking it internally throughout the wikipedia. His page reads like a promo page, contains external links to the company's websites, and I question his motives. To me it seems like he is engaging in a form of link spam. I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Regards, --Fedia 06:49, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Fedia, for what's it worth, I too question Techie Guru's motives. Nobody will spend his time creating such a self promotional page for a company, unless he works for the company in some capacity. Aarontay 18:46, 22 January 2007 (UTC)