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Hymn Society of Great Britain and Ireland
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Michael Saward
Better for you to remove the tag, summarizing your case in the edit summary. If you know something about him, you should also do some work on sourcing all the unsourced stuff in the article. By the way, is the tune name ("Guiting Power") correct on this one? -- Orange Mike  |  Talk  16:30, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, I've removed it. Thanks.
 * Yes, Guiting Power in correct. In its early days, Saward's hymn text Christ triumphant was linked with an unnamed tune (which sometimes felt perilously close to Country & Western!) by Michael Baughen (later Bishop of Chester), such as in the book Youth Praise (published CPAS 1966).  Later on, John Barnard wrote his tune Guiting Power, in a more traditional hymn-like style, specifically for that text.  In that pairing, the hymn has become widely used in the English-speaking world (in the UK the BBC have used it in many religious broadcast programmes).
 * Sourcing: I'll try to dig some out over the coming weeks.
 * Feline Hymnic 23:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Fred Pratt Green
Thanks for your comment on this. The reason that I deleted Category:Christian hymnwriters is that it seems to be a Wikipedia convention that we don't reference categories that include one another on the same page. Since there are no Methodist hymnwriters who are not also Christian hymnwriters, and since the Methodist hymnwriter category is included on the Christian hymnwriter page (or should be! I will check), it isn't really necessary, and it just leads to clutter. I've no idea whether this is an official Wiki policy or anything, it's just something that everyone does - on pages about places (categorise them to the smallest location they fit in, e.g. towns in Dorset rather than towns in England), about species of animals (categorise them to the smallest taxonomic unit we have a category for, e.g. Corvidae rather than birds), and people (classify to the most special category available, e.g. English novelists rather than people from England or novelists). There seems no reason to deviate from this convention in this case, but I have left it unchanged to allow discussion. seglea (talk) 00:15, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

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redirects
When we move a page from an indirect title, the software automatically makes a redirect to the correct title. We leave it, because the link on the messages etc. left on the authors page and the page histories and elsewhere will go to the old title, & he has to be able to find the article again. All articles with names beginning with Drare always moved, and the redirect left behind has a purpose. it is a greater load on the servers to remove the redirects than to leave them alone, & the cost of storage is unbelievably small. DGG (talk) 23:55, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * OK. Thanks for clarification. Feline Hymnic (talk) 09:32, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Christian music
Your recent edit summary said (Undid revision 215147967 by 74.78.3.3 (talk) Remove advertising link, as per source comment.). What does "as per source comment" mean? By the way, I looked at that link shortly after it was added and I didn't see a problem with it, but I didn't spend a lot of time vetting it. Thanks for giving it a second look. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  14:23, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Within the source of the page, as viewed when attempting to edit it, there is a large block just below the "External links" header saying (in caps) "PLEASE BE CAUTIOUS IN ADDING MORE LINKS ...". That is not displayed to the end user (hidden by the HTML "" ) but is present for someone attempting to edit.  It also supports the section "External links: advertising?" on the "Talk" page.  I where Absolon S. Kent suggests "agressively patrol new additions for linkspam". I'm happy to pursue this discussion, but let's do it over in that section of that Talk:Christian_music page. Hope that helps. Feline Hymnic (talk) 21:30, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah OK. davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  21:34, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Amazing Grace
Please don't use the undo tool (or at least, don't leave the automatic summary in) if you are reverting a good faith edit. What exactly where the "errors" contained in my edit and why did you revert it. I can't see how it introduced errors when I didn't actually change the text. Lists shouldn't be embedded in articles like this when prose would suffice or actually be an improvement. Regards. Woody (talk) 22:41, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. What's a "erathe"? And "on several occasion". (Should the latter be plural?) These weren't there before, so the text did actually change.  This information is list-like, so a list mechanism was natural way to present it when we were tidying up the article a couple of months ago and accords with WP:EMBED (that you mention). That does recommend embedded lists for some things: see the second form of their New York City buildings and their "Philosophers discuss" examples. And that information in "Amazing Grace" seems to be in that category.  (Perhaps it needs a some "parental" heading text, though.) Could I suggest we continue discussion on Talk:Amazing Grace rather than here?  Hope that helps. Feline Hymnic (talk) 23:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply, see Talk:Amazing Grace. Woody (talk) 21:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Gwahoddiad
New page added Ehrenkater (talk) 21:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Christian music
I temporarily reverted your addition to Christian music. It wasn't clear if you meant the section immediately preceding or immediately following. Please re-add the template right below the section header line. Thanks. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  18:48, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Where is "the"
Informing the uninformed about the accuracy and method of English Bible translation is to share knowledge. I have no axe to grind. This is just obscure stuff. I like to know about obscure stuff and maybe others feel likewise. If more people have knowledge of something obscure it no longer remains obscure. Is that point of view? Shouldn't we hear from specialists and translators? Are Biblical scholarly commentaries STILL thought to be dangerous? People are afraid of words, ideas, and something old that is new? If you do not like this information here, where I put it, though I think it should be at the beginning of the Mark entry so the reader of an article on the Gospel of Mark knows exactly what kind of mess they are getting into when translating from one language to another and the authority of Church doctrine when doing so. Rather than delete this material why not edit it and improve it so it is not POV and place it where it pleases you. What pleases you tickles me to death. Kazuba (talk) 10:51, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Catholic Encyclopedia reads WAND
Accuracy is not always what we may prefer. How is a wand NOT neutral? Kazuba (talk) 03:20, 10 August 2008 (UTC) Oh Gee! I forgot accuracy and verification mean very little to you. YOU write the Bible and YOU make the ancient paintings and then YOU interpret them for others in ways that keep you comfortable and happy. What scholars conclude means nothing to you. What can I say?? What ever... One question: Wouldn't you like to learn something new for a change. Kazuba (talk) 04:07, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh dear. Please, check your sources. I didn't write the Bible (where did you source that info?); it pre-dates me. Likewise ancient paintings.  Scholars' conclusions are important to me (where did you source the contrary info?).  I do like learning new things (where did you source the contrary info?), especially when they are well-cited; thanks for pointing me to the online Catholic Encycloedia: it looks like a good resource. And thanks for citing the 'wand' info; it looks good, when the context is known.  Citation is not just about quotes (after all the Bible actually states "There is no God" (Psalm 14)), it is just as much about context. Feline Hymnic (talk) 11:06, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Nice to hear from you
Don't you remember. There is no THE son of God in the Bible. It has been added in translation to reflect a later theology. YOU removed that from my entry.

You could have sought out the wand and painting stuff yourself instead of jumping to the conclusion I made it up. [Wand is not neutral, huh?] The Catacombs of Rome were quite a discovery. The earliest surviving Christian art!! It is spelled out in the book and article by Robin M.Jensen ( Nice lady. She was kind enough to answer some of my questions.) that I had already cited as a reference, but no one seemed curious enough to examine. When you see early art reflecting the story of Jonah and the (whale?) (Christian art can tell you what was in the artist's head) you realize this creature was imagined as a strange looking sea monster, not a whale. The story takes a definite ancient fantasy flavor. Which it should. There seems to be a minimal amount of history in the Bible. Teaching a lesson to modify behavior is the whole deal. [The story of Jesus may originally have been a parable not a biography.] We will never know. Deleting my stuff because the reader is unfamilar with it is something I get a lot. No one checks it out. I think there is a greater value to information that is sought than that which is thrown in your face. You learn how to do your own detective work.

With the Catholic Encyclopedia there is a VERY serious flaw. The articles are near to a hundred years old! The CE has yet to be updated and revised. For its time the the CE is quite amazing. The critical information gathered on the ancients is always growing and being put on trial. The article on Witchcraft in the CE cracked me up. Why would someone say they were a witch if they were not? There are some strange delusions out there. Just read the world news. Today Raymond E. Brown (just recently deceased) is one of the sharpest Catholic Biblical scholars. Brown never had the balls to question the existence of demons! What is with that? And it never occurs to Brown (to say) that the authors of the New Testament may be sticking their OWN words in Jesus mouth years after his lifetime. How naive can you get?

I see Robin M. Jensen's other book is available Face to Face: Portaits of the Divine in Early. Christianity. I used to subscribe to the magazine Bible Review. (That is were I came across Jensen) They had some great stuff in there. It was not well received by a large number of the public. They had a book out "Cancel my Subscription." Biblical scholarship moves foreward but it slowly drags its feet. The new has been frightening and revealed unexpected data. There will be more. Kazuba (talk) 23:14, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

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Anglicans
You deny that Anglicans are Protestants? I wonder what Henry VIII would think of that? Castravalva (talk) 05:12, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I wonder if you mis-read my comment? It was "Anglicanism isn't strictly a division within Protestantism".  (See Anglicanism for "via media", etc. Christendom is not a binary divide.) Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:17, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Then perhaps Anglicans should be listed between Catholics and Protestants, since they hold protestant beliefs but use a catholic style liturgy. Any info on how Orthodox and Coptic Christians use the Psalms? Castravalva (talk) 03:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Pentecostalism
Hey, noticed you have made alot of helpful edits to the Pentecostalism article. I'm so glad someone else is trying to improve this article. I started making some changes a few weeks ago and now I'm stuck not knowing what else should be taken out of the article. As it stands right now in my opinion the article has alot of information that makes it difficult to read and understand easily. Much of it not sourced. Just wodering what opinions, if any you had on other ways to improve the article?Ltwin (talk) 22:42, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I hope the edits are useful. It's not a subject I'm expert in, so I'm trying to restrict my work just to legibility, structure, tidying (and occasional sanity-checking, such as my deletion of the Armenian section which somehow didn't feel quite right). My main observation is, like yours, that much of it is unsourced (compounded by lack of hints to the casual observer that it is unsourced). One thing that is actually reasonably good (compared to other articles I've seen) is that where there is a "Main article" indication then the content within this article is relatively brief. If you're looking for a "big win", then one possibility might (just might) be to consider moving the history stuff into its own separate article. (But I'd also suggest that any such big plans be discussed at the article's Talk page, rather than here.) Hope that helps. Feline Hymnic (talk) 23:07, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I saw the Armenian portion, someone had just put that in there, but it didn't look right to me either. But you hit on something that I had been thinking needed to be done, the creation of a separate history article. The problem is very few people, to my knowledge I'm the only one that has visited the talk page in a while, have a real interest in the artilce. Thats one of the biggest problem with the organization, people make one edit then leave without concern for how the whole article should be structured. Thanks for the advice.Ltwin (talk) 17:12, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

The text of A Mighty Fortress Is Our God
I noticed that you removed the German text. Your justification for this is that it is interWiki linked to the German Wikisource. Is this strict policy? In the case of other short texts, the text is included in the article. I sustain your judgment of leaving the text out because that was the pretext for the inclusion of that inadequately translated version that was put in recently. Having the German text in there would impel one to offer a translation. Thank you for your work. Another question for you: does the omission of this block of text turn this article into a stub because of its brevity? Just wondering.--Drboisclair (talk) 06:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your query. Firstly, I was glad to see your assessment and doubts about the "modern English translation", and I think I agree with your removing it for the time being. Secondly, we've just been through a similar clean-up on the various "Psalms" article. Various people were putting in their favourite translations; most of the notable ones are available online anyway; so we agreed (see Talk:Psalms) that there was no need for inline versions, because they were already available (Wikisource and other places). I think (and it's a personal opinion) a similar guideline might be suitable for hymn articles. (Of course, a commentary about the text may well need to include quotations from the text.)  Hope that helps.  Might we open up a discussion on Talk:Hymn about this? Feline Hymnic (talk) 08:55, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

God Bless You
That is all. :) 71.203.159.204 (talk) 23:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

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Durham
Please note that the Local Government Act 1972 abolished all ceremonial titles conferred onto places in England and Wales. It's a common misconception that places like Salford still hold city status. City status can only be held in England and Wales at local government level, or else by a civil parish, hense why the non-metropolitan district of Durham holds the title of City of Durham. That a place has a cathedral has no bearing on provisions of the act, nor has it affected the ability to hold city status in England and Wales since the 19th century. --Jza84 | Talk  21:33, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Greensleeves
A nice job on restructuring Greensleeves. Thanks. David T Tokyo (talk) 11:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! Thanks for the note. I suspect that the article needs more work. I suspect, too, that the explanation given about the lyrics is somewhat slanted towards a single, and probably minority, theory rather than a different, and more widespread (silent majority), consensus. Feline Hymnic (talk) 15:12, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * (theory about the lyrics) You could well be right. It reads as a conventional lovesong - but the two references I've found so far are quite clear in suggesting there is more involved.  I've looked for more but, as yet, found no others.  David T Tokyo (talk) 17:57, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

La nativité du seigneur
Hello. How very seasonal of you to add this wikilink to prime number (the original content was by me). I'm probably going to add an article on Bach's trio sonatas for organ to wikipedia in the new year, having already done the Great Eighteen Chorale Preludes. Happy holidays, Mathsci (talk) 23:20, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well I'd just spotted the "La nativité" article, so hunted around for potential, but not yet realised, links to it and found the "prime number" one. Thanks for the note, and happy Christmas. Feline Hymnic (talk) 23:53, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Meteorology
Not a problem. I've been slowly getting around to improving articles to GA which I've edited substantially in the past, particularly if they're the generalized articles you'd figure should be brought up to snuff years ago. Meteorology is one of them, which was unreferenced when I first edited it. =) Thegreatdr (talk) 22:31, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Fire-Baptized Holiness Church
I created this article, but when I think about it now it may warrant being merged with the International Pentecostal Holiness Church, as that is its successor organization today. Ltwin (talk) 03:30, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 * OK. Thanks. Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:26, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Gilesgate Moor
I restored the AfD notice on Gilesgate Moor since the AfD at Articles for deletion/Gilesgate Moor has not yet been closed. I want the article to be kept (and I added some references to the article), and I realize that User:Fouldsythekingisbackagain has been blocked, but out of fairness to the other participants at the AfD, I think the notice should remain until someone closes the AfD. -- Eastmain (talk) 02:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, fair enough. Over several months I've done a fair bit of reverting 'Fouldsy' edits (mostly anon-IP guises, if I recall correctly). Almost all were straightforward vandalism. The 'Gilesgate Moor' AfD looked like just another bit of stirring. His guise in recent days as 'User:Fouldsythekingisbackagain' seems to have been a mixture of vandalism and (in fairness) reasonableness.  By the way just today, following his block, he seems to back as User:Gilagod101. Feline Hymnic (talk) 19:54, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Crucifixion Eclipse
Thank you for cleaning up the citations and references.Tcisco (talk) 13:16, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I hope I got it right and didn't introduce any inaccuracies. Feline Hymnic (talk) 13:28, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Just saying hi.
Hey there, just happened to come across your page, I think your user name is great! :) -- OlEnglish (Talk) 18:09, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Navbox question
Right location, but as it is it seems to be referring specifically to the template above it, which I'm not sure it is. Also, although I think I understand what you're getting at, it might be better if you alter the comments so that it is a bit more specific which template if any in particular you are referring to and how it could be adjusted. Thank you.
 * P.S. While I note that it can be done, I'm not really sure that I'm good enough at it to do it in an appealing way yet. But if you are a bit more specific I'll try to do what I can. Feel free to comment on any of the other templates which exist as well. Some haven't been created yet, but we're still working on that. John Carter (talk) 19:07, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Elvet Elfed...
Sorry. I thought maybe I hadn't saved my work, so I've written over the Elvet part! I'll just undo. I understand your thinking in creating a new Elmet article. The Elvet article still need a major clean-up, though. Thanks. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 15:52, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * A few hours later, it still seems to be not undone. So I'm reverting it to the long-established state (i.e. a place in Durham) although with the added 'for' template, to take people to 'Brythonic kingdom' usage. Significant changes can be discussed on the article's Talk:Elvet page. Feline Hymnic (talk) 21:17, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:List of Vice-Chancellor & Wardens of the University of Durham
Hi there, yes you caught me, I am (slowly) trying to get information on the past VCs so that the list will all be linked up. The ones with medical backgrounds seem quite easy to gather info on but some of the others seem not to have a lot about them available. If you have any info/ want to help then that would be great. Alex Allialliw (talk) 01:51, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

John Scott Whiteley
Thank you for pointing out this curious anomaly. I work with JSW, and will see if anything related to the 1983 London recital is of relevance. Probably not. John Warburton (talk) 15:41, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Might the earlier phrase "debut... in London... in 1983 at the 5.55 series of recitals" have been making a London-centric assumption? Feline Hymnic (talk) 16:36, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

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Matthew Ashimolowo
Hey Feline Hymnic (cat-lover musician Geordie woman!) [those are compliments], I like the visits you make and the corrections you factor in around Wikipedia, especially like the ones at Matthew Ashimolowo page, after I had made some changes. Wishing you all the best!

Akpantue (talk) 11:53, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Actually it would be Geordie man (man!). Nor am I Geordie (which would imply being born and brought up in Newcastle) as I was born and brought up elsewhere, and was resident for less than a year in Newcastle itself (I live elsewhere in the north-east). But thanks for the thanks. My best wishes to you, too. Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:53, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Rollback
Just noticed that you didn't have rollback and you do some vandalism reverting so it might be useful. Please read WP:ROLLBACK before using. Keep up the good work, &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Many thanks. It looks useful. But it also looks powerful, so I'll take care to read up on it, to try to avoid misuse or inappropriate use. Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:24, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Looking at your contributions, it seems you may be in the north-east? I live in Gateshead myself. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:12, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Close. I'm a softie southerner... long-term resident of County Durham. Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:54, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Marjorie Arnfield bio
Hello Feline Hymnic - I noticed that you had deleted two references to Marjorie Arnfield's close relatives - her son Nick and her husband Ron - on the grounds that the article is "not about Ron/Nick but about Marjorie." Fair comment.

I just wondered if you happened to know Marjorie Arnfield or her family? Englishhistorian (talk) 19:56, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


 * No I don't know the family, although I do have a connection with the school she attended (also attended, incidentally by Kate Adie who is mentioned in the article). And being in the north-east I have strong empathy with her portrayals of the industries (particularly mining) here. I had come to the article via a school connection, so wanted to make sure the articles beneficially linked to each other. And because of the value of her portrayal of now-defunct industries, I had wanted to improve the wiki-quality of this article. (For this, feel free to check over the totality of my edits.)  But part of improving conformance to wikipedia practice can sometimes include removing material which is not relevant to the main article. Note that I retained references to her family; such references are certainly relevant. But I removed details about the lives of those family members. If the family members themselves pass the wikipedia notability test then they perhaps deserve articles in their own right (and of course all the articles should wikilink to each other).  Does that help?


 * I see from the history that you are, by far, the major contributor to her article. Can I take this opportunity, then, to say a big "thank you" for creating it? Thanks.


 * P.S. I've just found a reference to her in New Year Honours 2000 so I've turned that into a wikilink to her article.


 * Feline Hymnic (talk) 20:19, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello Feline Hymnic - I would, in turn, like to thank you for your highly professional editing job on the Marjorie Arnfield page. I will try to answer your requests for clarification. However, this may take a while. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Englishhistorian (talk • contribs) 17:46, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. I suggest that discussion about the article now move to its (not my) talk page. I have just left a query there. Feline Hymnic (talk) 18:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Cranbrook
Nice work on tidying up the article a bit. I've corrected the incorrect distance in the mills section, and restored the mi/furlong - km conversion bit per source used. Book was published in 1933 when furlong were commonly used. Mjroots (talk) 19:36, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. Glad most of my work was useful. Feline Hymnic (talk) 20:49, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Inappropriate move
You moved Processional to Processional (play). The Wikipedia policy on disambiguation states that we should: "Only include related subject articles if the term in question is actually described on the target article." "Processional" does not appear in the article hymn for which you created a disambiguation page. "A disambiguation page is not a list of dictionary definitions." I have accordingly requested a reversal of the page move. Kind regards, DionysosProteus (talk) 13:51, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I have a recollection of something like this some months ago, but have forgotten the detail. There was an article (although I don't think it was hymn itself) where 'processional', in the context of a hymn, needed clarification, so I set about introducing disambiguation. I also have a vague feeling that the person who originally requested the explanation of processional hymn then wasn't satisfied with the result of my first-sketch bare-bones attempt and undid (or something similar) my edit that had introduced the new reference. (No pleasing some people!) I probably gave up at that point.
 * Presumably if we need to resurrect a 'processional' link in a hymn context I should create 'Processional (hymn)' or similar, or perhaps investigate wiktionary.  How does that sound? Feline Hymnic (talk) 19:20, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Speaking in tongues
Please read the talk page for Pentecostalism. You are welcome to post your opinion. Please do not revert my editing until a consensus has been reached. R/T-รัก-ไทย (talk) 06:55, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Giant Step - Coltrane Changes
The reference is the sheet music. Unfortunately there are no chord symbols on it, but anyone who reads music can verify the chords are there. The M3 - augmented, m3 - diminished is easily verified by anyone who plays and knows theory. Why does Wiki want references to books and magazines which are generally full of myths - certainly jazz books are chock full of nonsense about what was invented by who and when.
 * Thanks for your note.
 * Who are you? Please follow the Wikipedia conventions of signing your messages on 'Talk' pages by typing ' ~ ' at the end.
 * To discuss a topic, please follow the WP conventions of using the talk page of the article, not of of an editor (such as you or me).
 * To discuss "why does Wiki want...", there are plenty of guidelines at WP:MOS. You can discuss those principles there, or their implementation on a particular article at the article's talk page.
 * If you are keen to contribute to WP (and I would encourage you to do so), you should consider getting yourself a username.
 * Hope that helps.
 * Feline Hymnic (talk) 10:28, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Henry Jackson (businessman)
Hello Feline Hymnic, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of Henry Jackson (businessman) - a page you tagged - because: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. Ged UK  15:25, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * OK. Thanks. Feline Hymnic (talk) 16:53, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Matthew Ashimolowo
Hello again Feline. When you made a very recent reversal of the updates I made to Matthew Ashimolowo, you did not consider that some of the updates I did included corrections of grammatical errors, such as (line 22): But in a subsequent debate in the House of Lords, Lord Swinfen questioned the running of the Charity Commission's running of this investigation ('running of' repeated).

Secondly you stated that all the updated were opinions and wholly unsubstantiated. They were references to the cited House of Lords debate as well as statements taken from the individual's church ministry website, and I put the statements into subjective language as much as possible. You cannot realistically state that information from an organisations website are not relevant to gathering data.

Thirdly is it not curious that an autobiographical article about the leader of probably the largest church in the UK simply has just two sections, a very brief three lines about his ministry activity, and then the remainder is about the Charity Commission investigation into his church. Why is it wrong to include some details about his life and work? And if the article is about him, why is the majority of the church investigation information not left to the KICC church website?

Would it not have been better to go through the revisions carefully instead of reversing them wholesale? Comments on your talk page seem to suggest that you are perhaps often too hasty with your speedy deletions! Your zeal and commitment to Wiki work is apprecated, but I don't know whether it is things like this that led to the recent report that states that thousands of Wiki contributors have simply given up and withdrawn. Akpantue (talk) 15:20, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Music RFC
If you have a moment, I'd appreciate your thoughts on Talk:Contemporary_Jewish_religious_music. The question is how to define who is an important musical influence. Thanks, Joe407 (talk) 17:04, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

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 * This 'new' article in fact used material from an existing article, that had been added on 31 August 2007 (nearly three years ago). I agree that there is much in common with that other website.  But that other site is an ebay page, and it is highly likely that it was copied from Wikipedia.  (I also see that someone else has since concurred and removed the tag.) Feline Hymnic (talk) 20:20, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Threat of Speedy Deletion
Dear Feline_Hymnic:

I have your name from the Hymn Tunes article. Please look at my new article: Hymns and Hymn Tunes - Marriages ...  I posted it this morning, and I see now a threat of speedy deletion because it sounds like it was cut and pasted from somewhere. It was: I cut and pasted it from my word processor. I did all the research in the last couple of months, wrote and edited my data, and then posted it this morning. It is well documented.

Please see what you think of it, and confirm that it doesn't deserve to be deleted.... Hymnlover (talk) 18:22, 13 May 2010 (UTC)hymnlover 5-13-10

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Nicholas Brady
I tend to agree with a previous contributor's comments under 'Matthew Ashimolowo'; you seem very fast at simply undoing others' efforts. I added the crime writer Nicholas Brady, but could not yet find how to do the disambiguation, being new to this. So it would have been more helpful, instead of simply removing my information and pointing out that it wasn't disambiguated, to disambiguate it correctly... Lexibility (talk) 21:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Imgs
Thanks for the img clean up. Please see this which mentions the images you just cleaned up. Cheers. History2007 (talk) 22:26, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I guess you mean to the Mary (mother of Jesus) article. You're welcome. Thanks for the note. (My rationale was simply article layout.) Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:32, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
 * But if the other user says he wants the images there, you have no policy to point to except the fleeting concept called "common sense". That is why I think a policy is needed, as I said in that link. Else you will have to go to a 3rd opinion, etc. So a policy on that type of thing will be nice. History2007 (talk) 22:34, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Hymns
I just found out that Hymns to Mary exists. Thought you should know. Cheers. History2007 (talk) 14:49, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. I'll take a look. 19:35, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

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Numerical weather prediction
Tito and I have been improving the article over the past week and a half. Can you give it a look over and provide some feedback, i.e. is it easily understood, or does it need additional clarification? Thegreatdr (talk) 18:26, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll try to. But it ages since I've done any serious large-scale content checking (as distinct from detailed English syntax copy-editing, typo-correction, anti-vandal stuff, etc.).  Besides, I'm no meteorologist whatsoever.  (But I suspect you'll return that boomerang to me with a "that's just what we want!" tag...!) Feline Hymnic (talk) 18:34, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Exactly. We want to know if the non-meteorologist can understand this article.  Thegreatdr (talk) 18:38, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * That works. No worries, you're doing great. Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 19:29, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Heiligenkreuz
Thanks for your work on the abbey article. I'd like to add a few thoughts, in the hope you can use them to make this even better:-

1) As to your general point re what the article is "about", perhaps worth bearing in mind that the vast majority of general readers are likely to come to the article because of the CD success (sold a million round the world apparently) and so a mention of this in the lead makes sense.

2) If you want "media" pulled into one place, how come you ignored this anyway rather curious paragraph, currently stranded elsewhere?


 * Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck, nephew of reigning abbot Gregor Henckel Donnersmarck, wrote the screenplay for his film The Lives of Others in a cell at the abbey in November 2002. When Donnersmarck won the Oscar for his film in 2007, he returned for a celebration at Heiligenkreuz with the statue on 28 October.

3) And while I'm commenting, a lot of the article reads like a slightly awkwardly translated guide to buildings, which perhaps belong in a separate article. Cistercian (talk) 09:49, 4 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note, and for the fair points you raise.
 * In general shouldn't the lead of an article be kept simple and basic, avoiding tendency to digress and sticking to what the wording of its title suggests? If the title indicates a historical institution or building (e.g. the phrase "Heiligenkreuz Abbey", shouldn't the lead be about that, and not diverting into (dare I say) a relatively ephemeral piece of relatively recent news?  But I'll concede that in special cases a //brief// mention of a media thing might, occasionally, be in order.
 * You're right, I missed that "The Lives of Others". I'll happily fix it up.
 * It may be awkwardly translated, and that should be fixed. But split it? That's another matter. If there is to be a split then perhaps the main article should continue to concentrate on that (the title is after all about the Abbey itself), and the "split off" item be about "spin off" things such as the CD.
 * But if this conversation is to continue, we ought to take it to the 'Talk' page of the Abbey article, so that other interested parties can join in. Best wishes. Feline Hymnic (talk) 20:07, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Michael Seed
As you're from England, any chance you might have a look at the opening of Michael Seed? I appear to have unintentionally stepped on someone's toes but I still think it reads very strangely.Cistercian (talk) 09:51, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
 * OK. I'm no expert at all on things Franciscan but I'll take a look. Any follow-up will probably be either article edits or on the article's Talk page (i.e. probably not here on my Talk). Feline Hymnic (talk) 19:54, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Numerical weather prediction 2
I was about to go change the article, and then I saw you'd been working on it, so I thought I'd put this by you first. Why does it say that the first attempts were in the 1920s, and then go on to mention Richardson's work, which he did during the First World War? Something's no right. Philip Trueman (talk) 00:21, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I am no meteorologist whatsoever (although I have a science background). But a principle maintainer of the NWP article has asked me, probably precisely because I am an outsider to the topic, to check over the article.  Until my recent edit, the sentence didn't seem to read at all well, simply from the English language perspective; it had a clause in the middle beginning with "In" (captial "I").  I mentioned this at the Talk page of the article, and tentatively suggested a solution, based on English language (I have no knowledge of people such as Richardson and Bjerknes).  That seemed to be accepted, but I'll willingly concede that I may well have been wrong: that in improving the English I may have wrecked the science!
 * So please feel free to join in the editing. I'm sure that the two current active people (I exclude myself!) would be delighted to receive your assistance.  Note that I've started the section "Jan 2011 GAN" on the Talk page as a drop-box for things that I think need attention (indeed, the sentence you mention is there).
 * It's probably best to do the discussion there rather than here. All the best. Feline Hymnic (talk) 00:36, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It is slightly complicated. The data used for the forecast was from the World War II period, even though the forecast was made in the 1920s.  Even nowadays, model developers use older, unique cases to see how new versions of models handle particular events.  Thegreatdr (talk) 15:54, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

We can't separate out sea ice and SST initializations into their own sections. Since they are initialized in most of the guidance mentioned (except maybe air quality), they belong above the subsection. I appreciate what you're trying to do here though. If we develop new (or further develop) articles concerning climate models, hurricane models, or Atmospheric models, those lines will need to be in all three. It's probably best handled separated out within the subarticles, rather than the main article. Thegreatdr (talk) 21:02, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, fair enough! (Hence my comment in my edit summary when I did that.) Feline Hymnic (talk) 21:17, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Hymns
Hi, FYI: Hymns to Mary was updated after a storm in a teacup. Anyway, FYI if you have more hymns to add, etc. Cheers. History2007 (talk) 21:29, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

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Spaghetti plot article updated
I didn't even know this article existed until looking around for a spaghetti diagram article unveiled its existence. It has been brought up to C class (I think) and has some pictures. The non-met content needs to be expanded more, and the met content needs to be referenced more. I've noticed with a couple articles I've been working on lately that if Version 1.0 of wikipedia has assessed an article, that it takes precedence over what others designate. Does this reset automatically, or does someone from on high need to determine they are not Stub class anymore? Thegreatdr (talk) 20:16, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by takes precedence? Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 21:00, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It appears that when those involved in wikipedia version 1.0 grade the class of an article that it takes precedence over the grade of future reviews listed in the talk page. This appeared to happen with Spaghetti plot the day I posted this comment, though it no longer seems to be the case.  Thegreatdr (talk) 17:47, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * That to me just seems to be more of a caching problem with the talk page. In fact, assessments given by 1.0 are secondary to assessments given by other projects, since 1.0 considers WikiProject to be "expert reviewers" of the content of the article. WP 1.0 only steps in when there are contradicting assessments. (I'm a part of WP:1.0, that's how I know.) Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 20:44, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I guess the cache could have been the issue. But I've only seen this type of issue in articles where there was a 1.0 assessment in place.  Is it possible a cache issue would be that specific?  Thegreatdr (talk) 21:09, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Levee
Sorry. It's my eyes. That tiny "r". Time for me to increase my browser zoom.

By the way, isn't a Breakwater (structure) just a big spur dyke? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:53, 28 April 2011 (UTC)


 * No worries. We all make typing mistakes.  But on technical terms, such as 'revetment', wikilinking the term has two benefits:


 * 1) it acts as a spelling check: when we do a 'preview' of our edits then a red appearance of the link gives instant warning to us that something, somewhere, may be wrong or need attention;
 * 2) it gives the reader, who probably doesn't know the term, instant access to a description of it.


 * As for 'breakwater (structure): I have no idea!  My edit that involved that was merely tidying up, from a 'wikification' perspective, a previous edit; I assumed that the earlier information would be inserted by someone who knows the topic.


 * All the best.
 * Feline Hymnic (talk) 06:55, 28 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Actually, if you seem my contribs you will notice that I link zillions and zillions of terms all the time. I would of course have linked it, but I think I thought it was a minor term and wouldn't have an article. Many thanks for your understanding and happy editing. :) :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:06, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

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Spaghetti plot
Hi, I just wanted to let you know, that I removed the Spaghetti plot from the Template:Visualization, because specific types of charts/diagrams/plots etc. don't get listed there. I did add the Spaghetti plot to the listing in the Plot (graphics) article. -- Mdd (talk) 21:58, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * OK. I hadn't realised.  Thanks for the correction.  Feline Hymnic (talk) 11:14, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Psalm 69 (disambiguation)


A tag has been placed on Psalm 69 (disambiguation), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

'' The article on Psalm 69 links directly to this album. There isn't even a way to get to this article without actually searching "Psalm 69 (disambiguation)''

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Pentecostalism
Hey there! Hope everything is going well. Over at Talk:Pentecostalism there is someone who has placed an NPOV tag on the article and has started a discussion about NPOV violations in the article. I'm not sure exactly how to handle this dispute because frankly, I've written much of the article and I don't see serious POV issues. Could you look at the discussion and the article and give your input. Thanks! Ltwin (talk) 19:07, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Good to hear from you. I've been inactive in WP for a considerable time, although I still dip in with some edits occasionally.  I've just taken a quick look at the Talk page, and was pleased to see that the interchange of views appears to have remained cordial and respectful.  Indeed, I see the other editor, Ptet, has actually removed his POV tag, which suggests a respect for your replies... and credit to you.  Anyway, I'll take a look. Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:22, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Elvet Banks


The article Elvet Banks has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * No indication found the work has received received significant coverage in reliable independent sources per WP:MUSIC. A search turned up only lists and copies of the work itself, non-authoritative sources, or references to the place of the same name. Tagged for notability since November 2007.

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 * Thanks for the note. A weak area of Wikipedia is its coverage of hymn tunes in general. We really need to try to improve this and get more hymn tune articles written.  But with so few articles already, I'm not convinced the deletion of one of those few articles would actually helps towards broadening the overall topic!  Perhaps we could work towards improving the overall topic of hymn tunes.  If, then, as a result of that broadening, it is agreed that the particular Elvet Banks article doesn't "make the cut", then fair enough.  But, for the moment, could we keep it?  I've found another reference to the tune, and to its particular place in what I believe is a major hymnal over in the USA, although admittedly this reference is not the best.  And, with self-annoyance, I recall seeing another article just a few weeks ago from a much more authoritative source, but I cannot now re-find it at this very time when we need it!  Having added that earlier ref, I've removed the tag.  But feel free to keep this conversation going if you wish.  (I've also re-based the "notability" to now, because of the new ref.  If that re-basing is incorrect procedure please feel free to revert it.)  Meanwhile I'll try to uncover that other ref. Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:03, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (July 2013)


From the Editor Welcome to the July 2013 issue of Ichthus. We focus on the chronology of Jesus, as well as looking back at the project content improved over the last month.

WP:X has gained another Featured Article, Gospel of the Ebionites, by Ignocrates. The Gospel of the Ebionites is the name scholars give to an apocryphal gospel that supposedly belonged to a sect known as the Ebionites. It consists of seven short quotations discovered in a heresiology known as the Panarion, written by Epiphanius of Salamis, and its original title remains unknown. The text is a gospel harmony composed in Greek, and is believed to have been written during the middle of the 2nd century.

St Mihangel's Church, Llanfihangel yn Nhowyn was promoted to Good Article status, as was two other welsh churches, St Enghenedl's Church, Llanynghenedl, and St Peter's Church, Llanbedrgoch.

The main page also featured several DYK hooks for articles in our project, namely Bob Fu, List of places of worship in Tandridge (district), Catholic Press, Garendon Abbey, St. John's Episcopal Church (Jersey City, New Jersey), Pargev Martirosyan, Praskvica Monastery, Heather Preceptory, St. Augustin, Coburg, Longleat Priory, St Mihangel's Church, Llanfihangel yn Nhowyn, St Enghenedl's Church, Llanynghenedl, Christianization of Moravia, Christianization of Bohemia, Repton Abbey, St Peter's Church, Llanbedrgoch, Medingen Abbey, Elmhurst Christian Reformed Church, St. James on-the-Lines, and Leopold Karl von Kollonitsch.

Church of the month St. Michael's Golden-Domed Monastery is part of Saint Sophia's Cathedral, Kiev in Ukraine. It is a functioning monastery that dates back to the Middle Ages.

Membership report The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 367 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, Newchildrenofthealmighty, Evenssteven, Kerna96, and FutureTrillionaire. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.

Focus on... THE HISTORICAL JESUS

When did Jesus live? When did he die? How do we know? We do, in fact, have excellent information about the time intervals for the life and death of Jesus. As in other people who lived and died in the first century, this gives an approximate date range, but still, give or take 3-4 years and we have pretty good estimates confirmed by a number of really diverse sources, ranging from inscriptions in Delphi to Roman and Jewish sources. The Chronology of Jesus article discusses how a wide variety of Christian, Jewish and Roman sources are used to establish the time-frame for the life and death of Jesus.

And all of his data fits together. For instance, the chronology of Paul had been discussed based on the Book of Acts long ago, then the Delphi Inscription is found in the 20th century in the Temple of Apollo. And guess what.. it confirms it and totally dates his trial in Corinth, which helps reaffirm the date of the crucifixion of Jesus. The same date range is independently estimated from the writings of Josephus on the Baptist's death. And it fits Isaac Newton's astronomical models for the crucifixion date as well as the independent lunar calculations of Humphreys. As that article shows, all these dates just fit together.

From the bookshelf Chronos, kairos, Christos: nativity and chronological studies edited by J. Vardaman, E. M. Yamauchi 1989 ISBN 0-931464-50-1

This two volume book (with a very apt title) is gem-filled with scholarly research. Paul Maier's article in the first volume is a classic study on the chronology of Jesus and provides a useful summary of a number of issues.

Did you know...
 * ... that the Russian journalist Nicolas Notovitch who in 1894 originated the story that there was evidence at the Hemis monastery that an adult Jesus had traveled to India, later confessed to fabricating his evidence?

Calendar This month (July) contains the feast days of Mary Magdalene, and James, son of Zebedee.

- Help requests Please let us know if there are any particular areas, either individual articles or topics, which you believe would benefit from outside help from a variety of other editors. We will try to include such requests in future issues.

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August 2013 WikiProject Christianity Newsletter


From the Editor

Welcome to the August 2013 issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter. We focus on the historical Jesus and reflect on the last month.

The project has another featured picture, The ruins of Holyrood Chapel, a digitisation of an oil-on-canvas painting. Our top-importance article, Jesus, has been nominated for Featured Article status, the discussion can be seen here; Knights of Colombus has also been nominated as a FAC.

Ecgbert (bishop) and Church architecture in Scotland have both this month achieved Good Article status.

Our project had several of its articles featured in the main page DYK section, including Hinckley Priory, Little Chapel, St Peter's Church, Ropsley, Chip Ingram, St John the Evangelist's Church, Corby Glen, Great George Street Congregational Church, St Mary's Church, Walton-on-the-Hill and Bunge church.

Our thanks go to all of those who have worked to achieve these article milestones.

Church of the month This image, of Maillezais Cathedral and created by Selbymay was this month promoted to featured picture status.

Membership report We would like to welcome our newest members, Thechristophermorris, Psmidi and Jchthys. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.

Focus on... THE HISTORICAL JESUS

What was Jesus like? What did he preach? Did he claim to be the Messiah? Did he predict an apocalypse? What can we know about him outside a religious context? The Historical Jesus article discusses what can be known about Jesus with various degrees of probability. While scholars agree on the over all flow and outline of Jesus' life (his baptism by John, debated Jewish authorities, healings, and his crucifixion by Pilate) they have built various and diverging portraits of the rest of his life. These range from minimalist portraits that accept very little of the gospel accounts to maximalists who accept most of the accounts as historical.

The portraits of Jesus have at times been unwitting reflections of the researchers themselves, and Crossan once quipped that some authors "do autobiography and call it biography". However, the study of historical Jesus has made one thing clear: there is so much to learn about Jesus that the more one looks, the more there is to discover.

From the bookshelf Jesus of Nazareth: An Independent Historian's Account of His Life and Teaching by Maurice Casey 2010 ISBN 0-567-64517-7

In this book Maurice Casey not only draws on his special expertise in the Aramaic traditions and the Q source, but provides a comprehensive review of the various approaches to the historical Jesus.

Did you know...
 * ... that in 1951 Christianity was the second largest religion in the world with 500 million followers, compared to 520 million Buddhists, but by 2013 it had gained the top spot with about 2.2 billion Christians?

Calendar This month we celebrate the feasts of St Lawrence, St Bernard, and St Augustine.

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Jurassic coast paragraphs
Hi!

I've seen that you've removed that paragraphs from a few Dorset articles, and it has been reverted several times.

I agree with you, that this paragraph is unnecessary to have in every article on a place on the coast. A far better section, on, say, the Chesil Cove article, would be the geology of the local area, not this paragraph on the whole of the Jurassic Coast. I wonder if you, I, or both of us, could take this up in a place where a few people could discuss it, such as at Talk:Jurassic Coast?

All my best, Rossoh (talk) 12:24, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note. Yes, taking it up there seems a good idea.  (I had been wondering about the next move, so thanks for your message!)  I'll set something going there later on this evening.  Feline Hymnic (talk) 21:02, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

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 * In principle, yes. But these days, I'm only rarely editing on Wikipedia, so I can't promise to be as active as I was a few years ago.  Happy to be kept "in the loop". Feline Hymnic (talk) 15:58, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

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In the psalm talk page i just asked u a question about when and where the discussion and consensus u referred to took place.2601:7:6580:5E3:2877:96CA:AE3D:957D (talk) 07:34, 6 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I've replied on Talk:Psalms.  Feline Hymnic (talk) 10:47, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

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The article now has two links to En-Gedi Scroll. In one place they are referred to as "biblical scrolls," and the other place as En-Gedi Scroll. Are these exactly the same thing? Is the only scroll that burned the En-Gedi Scroll, or did other scrolls get burned also? Please excuse my lack of historical knowledge. I understand the technical aspects of the article, but not the historical part. Comfr (talk) 21:02, 23 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I agree it is poorly worded; the problem was that the first link had the visible text of general "biblical scrolls" but linked to the specific En-Gedi Scroll; that first link ought to have pointed to a general article. I am adjusting it a little.  Continuation of discussion about the article ought to be on the article own 'Talk' page.  Feline Hymnic (talk) 09:05, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

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Belated Happy Easter and Kalo Pascha! We're excited to announce the return of our newsletter Ichthus! Getting this issue out was touch-and-go for a while. Check out what's happening at the Project:
 * There was a lively discussion about the Easter Did You Know nomination Christ the Lord is Risen Today
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 * In anticipation of being nominated for Featured article, Presbyterian Church in the United States of America was put up for Peer Review by Ltwin
 * The death of Billy Graham on February 21 was a profound loss for many. For the Wikipedia reaction see this discussion. Graham received a blurb.
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Achievements

In March the Project saw four articles promoted to GA-Class. They were the oh-so-irresistible Delilah (nom. MagicatthemovieS) (pictured), Edict of Torda (nom. Borsoka), David Meade (author) (nom. LovelyGirl7) and last but not least Black Christmas (2006 film) (nom. Drown_Soda). Black Christmas? How did that get in there lol? Congratulations to all of the nominators for a job well done!

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Jesus (7–2 BC to 30–33 AD) is the central figure of Christianity, whom the teachings of most Christian denominations hold to be the Son of God and the awaited Messiah of the Old Testament. Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that a historical Jesus existed, although there is little agreement on the reliability of the gospel narratives and how closely the biblical Jesus reflects the historical Jesus. Most scholars agree that Jesus was a Jewish preacher from Galilee, was baptized by John the Baptist, and was crucified in Jerusalem on the orders of the Roman prefect, Pontius Pilate. Christians generally believe that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of a virgin, performed miracles, founded the Church, died by crucifixion as a sacrifice to achieve atonement, rose from the dead, and ascended into heaven, from which he will return. The great majority of Christians worship Jesus as the incarnation of God the Son, the second of three Persons of a Divine Trinity. A few Christian groups reject Trinitarianism, wholly or partly, as non-scriptural. In Islam, Jesus is considered one of God's important prophets and the Messiah.

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Featured article Nominated by Operation Auca was an attempt by five Evangelical Christian missionaries from the United States to make contact with the Huaorani people of the rainforest of Ecuador. The Huaorani, also known as the Aucas, were an isolated tribe known for their violence, both against their own people and outsiders who entered their territory. With the intention of being the first Protestants to evangelize the Huaorani, the missionaries began making regular flights over Huaorani settlements in September 1955, dropping gifts. After several months of exchanging gifts, on January 2, 1956, the missionaries established a camp at "Palm Beach", a sandbar along the Curaray River, a few miles from Huaorani settlements. Their efforts culminated on January 8, 1956, when all five&mdash;Jim Elliot, Nate Saint, Ed McCully, Peter Fleming, and Roger Youderian&mdash;were attacked and speared by a group of Huaorani warriors. The news of their deaths was broadcast around the world, and Life magazine covered the event with a photo essay. The deaths of the men galvanized the missionary effort in the United States, sparking an outpouring of funding for evangelization efforts around the world. Their work is still frequently remembered in evangelical publications, and in 2006, was the subject of the film production End of the Spear. (more...)

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Featured article Nominated by The Mortara case was a controversy precipitated by the Papal States' seizure of Edgardo Mortara, a six-year-old Jewish child, from his family in Bologna, Italy, in 1858. The city's inquisitor, Father Pier Feletti, heard from a servant that she had administered emergency baptism to the boy when he fell sick as an infant, and the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Roman and Universal Inquisition held that this made the child irrevocably a Catholic. Because the Papal States had forbidden the raising of Christians by members of other faiths, it was ordered that he be taken from his family and brought up by the Church. After visits from the child's father, international protests mounted, but Pope Pius IX would not be moved. The boy grew up as a Catholic with the Pope as a substitute father, trained for the priesthood in Rome until 1870, and was ordained in France three years later. In 1870 the Kingdom of Italy captured Rome during the unification of Italy, ending the pontifical state; opposition across Italy, Europe and the United States over Mortara's treatment may have contributed to its downfall.

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 * 2) Henry VIII of England – on his deathbed the last words of the king who founded the English Reformation were "Monks! Monks! Monks!"
 * 3) Martin Luther King Jr. – can't wait to see the new US$5 bill featuring the "I Have a Dream" speech
 * 4) Seven deadly sins – surprisingly "original research" is not one of the Seven deadly sins
 * 5) Mary, Queen of Scots – arrested for Reigning While Catholic (RWC)
 * 6) Michael Curry (bishop) – our article says that he upstaged Meghan at her wedding. Did you see her wedding pictures? All I can say is
 * 7) Robert F. Kennedy – when informed that missiles were being installed in Cuba he famously quipped, "Can they hit Oxford, Mississippi?"

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Our newest Featured list Nominated by List of dates predicted for apocalyptic events. Predictions of apocalyptic events that would result in the extinction of humanity, a collapse of civilization, or the destruction of the planet have been made since at least the beginning of the Christian Era. Most predictions are related to Abrahamic religions, often standing for or similar to the eschatological events described in their scriptures. Christian predictions typically refer to events like the Rapture, Great Tribulation, Last Judgment, and the Second Coming of Christ.

Polls conducted in 2012 across 20 countries found over 14% of people believe the world will end in their lifetime, with percentages raging from 6% of people in France to 22% in the US and Turkey. In the UK in 2015, the general public believed the likeliest cause would be nuclear war, while experts thought it would be artificial intelligence. Between one and three percent of people from both countries thought the apocalypse would be caused by zombies or alien invasion. (more...)

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River Till
There should be no links to disambiguation pages, so now that you made River Till a dab page, would you please follow up and fix all the incoming links? (Dabsolver is helpful.) Thanks. — Gorthian (talk) 03:01, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. I think I've done it (my first ever knowledge of Dabsolver). Feline Hymnic (talk) 11:50, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

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Alderley edge, Cheshire plain, Cheshire basin etc
Hi, out of the country at the moment, but will take a look in about a week when I return ... It was a while ago, and a little confused as to where the basin and plain crossover 😀 Chaosdruid (talk) 15:24, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm not an expert! My understanding, for what it is worth: Hope that helps. I suggest that further discussion be on the talk page of one of those articles. Feline Hymnic (talk) 17:17, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Cheshire Basin: describes an ancient geological structure underlying much of Cheshire, including the present day Cheshire Plain;
 * Cheshire Plain: a region of present-day landscape and geography; its extent seems (I think) to be similar to the basin, and at least some of its present landscape may reflect that ancient "basin" geology;
 * Alderley Edge: a small (just a few miles) region of northern Cheshire. Its deep, ancient structure relates to that ancient Basin; its present-day topography helps define one of the edges of the present-day plain.

Hagley Park, Christchurch
Schwede66 is now persistently deleting the disambiguation hatnote at the article above. Since you took part in the recent discussion, recommending disambiguation, you may wish to comment on the mattter on its talkpage. Sweetpool50 (talk) 21:16, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notification. I've added a comment there. Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:12, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Inappropriate external link?
Inappropriate external link? I don't think so. Have a look at the other two external links, one of them is a dead link, the other one is a website which does not explain major scales in detail. The link I put is to help people learn only the most commonly use major scales. Got a problem with that? Maybe next time you should fix dead link or links pointing to inappropriate contents.

Please don't make personal attacks: "got a problem with that" and "maybe next time you should" are both personal ad hominem attack. And please take the topic issue to the article's talk page: Talk:Major scale. And please sign your comments in the usual ~ fashion. Thanks. Feline Hymnic (talk) 10:20, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

seems insistent upon adding this commercial enterprise?
seems insistent upon adding this commercial enterprise? For heaven's sake, the link's pointing to a website I do not own but I really like how the guy explain about the topic and by the way I didn't not see a sign up button or buy now button anywhere on the website, how is that commercial enterprise?. Just like Wikipedia the information there is free for anyone to use.JEric94 (talk) 11:54, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

I am sorry if I make you feel bad
Just wanted to let you know that I am SORRY if my words make you feel bad. Did not mean to insult you in anyway but just wanted to make my point clear. JEric94 (talk) 12:19, 23 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Please desist from further discussion of this here. Take this matter to the article's talk page: Talk:Major scale, please. Not here.  To the talk page.  Several other editors are involved.  It is, as I mentioned above, now inappropriate to continue this discussion on my own talk page.  This discussion needs to be centralised among us all, not by picking us (e.g. me and User:Chrissymad) individually one-by-one.  Come to the article's own talk page, please. Thank you.


 * Meanwhile, I note and appreciate your apology. Thanks. Feline Hymnic (talk) 20:56, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

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The sad news was the 2019 Sri Lanka Easter bombings. The Top 6 most popular articles about People in WikiProject Christianity were: <ol style="margin-left: -2.0em;"> </ol> Did You Know? Nominated by ... that the first attempt to build the Holy Trinity Cathedral of the Alexander Nevsky Lavra resulted in the demolition of the nearly completed structure?
 * 1) Louis XIV of France – a monarch of the House of Bourbon who reigned as King of France. He did say, "Every time I appoint someone to a vacant position, I make a hundred unhappy and one ungrateful."
 * 2) Mary, Queen of Scots – arrested for Reigning While Catholic (RWC), Mary was found guilty of plotting to assassinate Elizabeth I of England in 1586, and was beheaded the following year.
 * 3) Elizabeth I of England – The Virgin Queen, Elizabeth was the last of the five monarchs of the House of Tudor who ushered in the Elizabethan Era, reversed re-establishment of Roman Catholicism by her half-sister.
 * 4) Henry VIII of England – King of England, He was an accomplished musician, author, and poet; his known piece of music is "Pastime with Good Company". He is often reputed to have written "Greensleeves" but probably did not. He had six marriages.
 * 5) Martin Luther King Jr. – " There are three urgent and indeed great problems that we face not only in the United States of America but all over the world today. That is the problem of racism, the problem of poverty and the problem of war."
 * 6) Billy Ray Cyrus – Having released 12 studio albums and 44 singles since 1992, he is best known for his number one single "Achy Breaky Heart", which became the first single ever to achieve triple Platinum status in Australia.

Featured article Nominated by Saint Fin Barre's Cathedral is a Gothic Revival three-spire cathedral in the city of Cork, Ireland. It belongs to the Church of Ireland and was completed in 1879. The cathedral is located on the south side of the River Lee, on ground that has been a place of worship since the 7th century, and is dedicated to Finbarr of Cork, patron saint of the city. It was once in the Diocese of Cork; it is now one of the three cathedrals in the Church of Ireland Diocese of Cork, Cloyne and Ross, in the ecclesiastical province of Dublin. Christian use of the site dates back to a 7th-century AD monastery, which according to legend was founded by Finbarr of Cork. The entrances contain the figures of over a dozen biblical figures, capped by a tympanum showing a Resurrection scene. (more...) Help wanted We're looking for writers to contribute to Ichthus. Do you have a project that you'd like to highlight? An issue that you'd like to bring to light? Post your inquiries or submission here. <div style="; width: 495px; text-align: center; margin-right: 1em; border: 1px solid /777777;padding:0.5em 1.0em; background:#F5D020;background-image: radial-gradient(#FFDD00,#FBB034)"> WikiProject Christianity

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<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 10:39, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Nicholas Danby moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Nicholas Danby, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. <b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 14:29, 16 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for drawing this to my attention. I believe it is now much better.  Could you re-check it, please, and if possible move it back to main space.


 * (Background:The English subject, Nicholas Danby, had an article on NL-language WP but not on EN. The NL one was unsourced but looked accurate, so my EN version was simply a translation.  But you were right to draw my attention to the desirability of applying higher standards. I believe I have now done this.  Thank you.)


 * Feline Hymnic (talk) 10:25, 22 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Feline Hymic, Greetings. Declined pls see comment made on the draft. Cheers.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 10:40, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

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A suicide attack on July 11th claimed by Islamic State (IS) near a church in the Syrian city of Qamishli shows that Christians remain a major target of the terror group. The Top 6 most popular articles about People in WikiProject Christianity were: <ol style="margin-left: -2.0em;"> </ol> Did You Know? Nominated by ... that The Vision of Dorotheus is one of the earliest examples of Christian hexametric poetry?
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Redid the intro improvements to be less copy-edited, would appreciate it if you had a look over it since you brought up the issue with the intial work (Jehan Alain) AnyOwl (talk) 16:32, 15 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes, thanks! My apologies if my revert seemed somewhat harsh. Thanks for re-doing it. Feline Hymnic (talk) 17:25, 15 September 2019 (UTC)


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I was confused but see Talk:Creation Ministries International/Archive 1, it's all there. I should be asleep but my dog woke me up. Doug Weller talk 22:33, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah! OK. I had seen your revert (as an experienced user I recognise over many years) which seemed to be valid. And most archiving on most active major articles generally seems bot-driven, whereas this wasn't. Thanks. Feline Hymnic (talk) 07:21, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I looked at their contributions to see if they'd archived it, but didn't look to see if there was an archive! All that editor was doing was deleting material archived some time ago. Doug Weller  talk 18:48, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for the Magnifi-Cat! Yes, life-long scientist, life-long Christian and life-long leader of congregational song.  The discovery (at different times) of Robert Alter's translations and Peter Enns' writing has been inspirational. Feline Hymnic (talk) 12:40, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

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 * Good catch! Thanks.  Fixed. Feline Hymnic (talk) 10:54, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

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Hi, I gather you're in Berkshire, and I have to admit I have no experience with current British hymnals, and with only a few historical ones. That said, "PM (Peculiar Meter)" is a standard section of the indices to very many US hymnals (I see the last edition of Worship replaced it with " ONE OF A KIND ), and is used for one-of-a-kind hymns like the here-ubiquitous What Wondrous Love Is This/ CAPTAIN KIDD pairing (Alice Parker also essayed this meter). Your rewording "the syllable count varies in equivalent lines across verses" does indeed describe something irregular (Worship uses  IRREGULAR WITH REFRAIN  for ADESTE FIDELES !), but it is of course not the same thing. Friendly greeting from California, and perhaps we'll share war stories sometime. Sparafucil (talk) 06:24, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for your message. Yes, UK-based, with a lifetime of weekly hymn-leading (and involvement in regional and national hymn circles.
 * Let's continue the technical side of this at Talk:Metre (hymn). Just to add that your edits have made me look a little wider, and I see that we do, indeed, seem have here a real trans-Atlantic difference: "two nations divided by a common language", as Oscar Wilde put it.  You're right: this Wikipedia article (brief though it currently is) probably should at least touch on this.  I see that there even seems to be a difference within the history of US hymnody. Feline Hymnic (talk) 15:26, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

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Being a Ghost Story of Christmas, commonly known as A Christmas Carol, is a novella by Charles Dickens, first published in London by Chapman & Hall in 1843 and illustrated by John Leech. The book is divided into five chapters, which Dickens titled "staves". A Christmas Carol recounts the story of Ebenezer Scrooge, an elderly miser who is visited by the ghost of his former business partner Jacob Marley and the spirits of Christmas Past, Present and Yet to Come. After their visits, Scrooge is transformed into a kinder, gentler man. (more...) Bible Verse Be kindly affectionate to one another with brotherly love, in honor giving preference to one another. Romans 12:10 New King James Version (NKJV) Help wanted We're looking for writers to contribute to Ichthus. Do you have a project or an issue that you'd like to highlight? Post your inquiries or submission here.

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A Song for Simeon, is a 37-line poem written in 1928 by American-English poet T. S. Eliot (1888–1965). It is one of five poems that Eliot contributed to the Ariel poems series of 38 pamphlets by several authors published by Faber and Gwyer. "A Song for Simeon" was the sixteenth in the series and included an illustration by avant garde artist Edward McKnight Kauffer. The poem's narrative echoes the text of the Nunc dimittis, a liturgical prayer for Compline from the Gospel passage. Eliot introduces literary allusions to earlier writers Lancelot Andrewes, Dante Alighieri and St. John of the Cross. Critics have debated whether Eliot's depiction of Simeon is a negative portrayal of a Jewish figure and evidence of anti-Semitism on Eliot's part. (more...) Bible Verse May He grant you according to your heart’s desire, And fulfill all your purpose. Psalm 20:4 New King James Version (NKJV) Help wanted We're looking for writers to contribute to Ichthus. Do you have a project or an issue that you'd like to highlight? Post your inquiries or submission here.

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Hi, I've re-restore the reference at David V. Day. If you check, you'll see I've added an archive link for the reference using Wayback Machine. Please see Help:Using the Wayback Machine for how you can do this yourself. Just because an URL doesn't work now, you shouldn't remove the reference: Do not delete a citation merely because the URL is not working (WP:DEADREF). Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 14:27, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll try to remember to bear that in mind for references that refer to things that are still known to be valid.

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 * the text the reference is supporting says "and remains part of the ministry team"? Present tense.  Then...
 * my original revert message carefully stated that I had searched for, and found, the current equivalent of the old link (https://www.stnics.org.uk/staff) that specifies the current (present-tense) ministry team. That current web page has several people, but note that the subject (David Day) is absent from it.

The combination of (a) present-tense text (b) archived ref. (c) his absence from the present-tense ref... that combination is inconsistent. As you don't like my edits (OK; I can live that) please could you fix the inconsistency, either with a ref that supports the present-tense nature of the text or by adjusting the text to something past-tense-ish that avoids stating an (as yet) unknown present-tense state.

Summary: The text says "he is"; present tense. The archive ref. only says "he was"; past tense. A replacement present-tense ref. does not support the present-tense text.

Thanks. Feline Hymnic (talk) 14:49, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

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The Cross and the Switchblade
The other day I made my first ever edits and was a bit surprised to see all of the edits reversed by you. I am concerned that my edits to The Cross and the Switchblade and Charasmatic Movement, which were factual, will be continually reversed. For example, why would changing the name of the incorrect publisher to the correct publisher be reversed? Being new to this, I would appreciate any assistance you could provide. If I am addressing this in the wrong place, please forgive me-- still trying to figure it all out. JDH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7080:B63E:DBE0:58B2:4A14:2391:49B3 (talk) 13:44, 29 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Welcome to Wikipedia.


 * All substantial Wikipedia edits should be accompanied by an edit summary explaining the rationale. For instance my revert had a summary Although it's inaccessible behind a paywall, I think we have to assume that the original figure (15m) is correct according to the reference supporting it. (More may have been sold since; but the point here is conformity with the supporting cite.)  This explains why I did the revert.  Wikipedia statements should be supported and backed up by independent sources.  The books sales figure had such a source associated with it (a CT article). They must be kept in sync.  The original text here was, in effect. "15m;  according to the CT source" (alas, the paywall doesn't help).  You simply changed the number. This change therefore makes it inconsistent with the source.  That is what my edit summary tried to say.


 * An edit should focus on one item. But that edit talked about three totally separate items: (a) name of a publisher (b) number of sales (c) "pastor" versus title.  From the perspective of maintaining Wikipedia information they are three separate, independent points.  So keep those as two separate, independent edits.  It allows clears focus for any subsequent discussion and activity of any one of them.  And each should always have an edit summary, so that subsequent editors (for instance, in this case, me) can see the rationale.


 * As for the publisher: a quick check on Amazon suggested various publishers over the years (I didn't see Geis in there). In addition, your other edits seemed to be promoting Geis, suggesting (hinting at) a possible wish to promote the name of this publisher.  If you happen to be an employee/associate of Geis, this would actually put you in serious breach of Wikipedia's "conflict of interest" policy: WP:COI.


 * All Wikipedia editors are volunteers. When we try to keep articles clean, we are not necessarily there to try to improve questionable edits (the unsupported change from 15m to 25m puts it into that category).  A higher priority (call on our limited, voluntary, unpaid time) is maintaining the existing quality of an article against possible incoming degradation. Reverting can be the simplest option.


 * To pursue any of the points (e.g. publisher; sales figures; title) the best place for discussion is the talk page of the article, in this case Talk:The Cross and the Switchblade. I hope that helps.


 * Feline Hymnic (talk) 19:33, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

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Hello there I see you are interested in Jesus so it would mean a lot if you read my user page and join my group where we talk about god and a little about music of celebrities so it would mean a lot if you would join thanks for your time and bye Jokerkick (talk) 15:45, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

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Lord of the Dance (hymn)
Hi, I share your concerns about the Lord of the Dance (hymn) article and have added context to the Reception section. I didn't edit or delete any pre-existing content. My contribution probably needs wikifying though. I hope it's ok to draw your attention to this, as you were the most recent sympathetic editor on that article. 146.198.87.202 (talk) 15:02, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

I've now also added a section titled "Reception" to the article's talk page, with further relevant examples from Carter's lyrics. He explained his intentions in interviews too. (Sorry for cluttering your talk page.) 146.198.87.202 (talk) 23:14, 24 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I'll take a look. Feline Hymnic (talk) 11:37, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

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Kingdom of Bonny
Thank you for your reversion at Kingdom of Bonny. I'm fairly new, so I didn't know what to do with it (and posted a question at the Teahouse, which effectively you've answered!). It's the first time I've come across someone writing so inappropriately, and yet using sources - but with quotes that cannot be disentangled from summary text, and the sources cited in plain text with no templates, and formats that wouldn't be right anywhere. I wasn't as brave as you, but will be next time! It was a bit of a mess. Elemimele (talk) 22:14, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I have no knowledge of the subject at all.  But the state of the article before the recent additions by the IP address looked reasonable; by contrast the state afterwards looked poor. The additions were large, poorly written, poorly formatted and unsourced.  So I simply reverted those additions, leaving what was, I hope, a good edit summary to explain why. Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:20, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

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Please what you wrote about Bonny People is very very wrong. You have to make research. Or go to Bonny and ask their king. So manipulating stories. I am from Bonny and we migrated from Kololuma in present day Bayelsa Owudogu (talk) 11:13, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

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this is the article List of most-streamed songs on Spotify living consequence of the so-called "anyone can edit" this article is more vandalized and the links to Spotify from the songs have been removed--Tirso Gutiérrez (talk) 16:16, 18 June 2022 (UTC)


 * My personal opinion is that the article itself seems rather pointless. Wikipedia is not a newspaper yet this article seems to be trying to be "news".  My edit there today was my first visit to that article (in 15 years on Wikipedia) and solely for the purpose of suggesting use of the "as of" template (which is new to me!) for an obvious use-case.  Because the content is so ephemeral, I'm not sure how worthwhile it is for me to spend time there.  But I wish you luck in trying to improve it! Feline Hymnic (talk) 16:31, 18 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I need help.Tirso Gutiérrez (talk) 19:13, 18 June 2022 (UTC)


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The deletion of my edit on "Books of Samuel"
Hi there!

While reading the narrative described in books of Samuel, specifically David's story, I noticed a mistake. The text spoke of "Samuel dies" when describing the death of Jonathan. This makes no sense: While Samuel appears in his own story, he can hardly die in the middle of it if he wrote it down. Besides, Jonathan's death, which happens at this point, is missing in the synopsis. That is why I changed it to "Jonathan dies", but this has been marked as incorrect. FlorianBoleyn (talk) 19:10, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The section heading is "David the Outlaw (22:1-26:25)" (1 Sam. chapters 22-26). At 25:1: "Samuel died and all Israel mourned for him".  Johnathan's death is much later, at the start of 2 Samuel.  The place to pursue this discussion is the article talk page: Talk:Books of Samuel.  Hope that helps. Feline Hymnic (talk) 12:16, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

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Hello, Feline Hymnic. Thank you for your work on Frosterley Marble. User:SunDawn, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

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 * Thanks. I'll keep working on it. Let's also hope others find it and can improve it further. Feline Hymnic (talk) 08:04, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

summarises spelling.
Hi,

Sorry for my trying to correct the spelling.

Please update me regarding checking the issue.

Thanks HanochP (talk) 16:02, 14 October 2023 (UTC)


 * It's fine, and no need to apologise! Your edit merely highlighted that there was a pre-existing, more widespread inconsistency in the spellings used. So I took a quick look and it appeared that, on balance (sort of two-thirds; one-third) they veered towards British English (e.g. "standardise") rather than US-English (e.g. "standardize").  That, combined with a long-standing (2016) "use dmy dates" (British style; US would have been "mdy dates), suggested that the rationalisation should head in the British direction. The article WP:ENGVAR is useful here. (Adding to the confusion is somethng called "Oxford spelling", which is basically British (as one might expect!) but with "ize".)


 * By the way, an analogous issue in that of BC/AD vs. BCE/CE conventions for dating: see MOS:ERA.


 * Happy editing!


 * Feline Hymnic (talk) 16:15, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

One thing
On your edit summary here, guidance is actually Editors should provide a brief annotation when a link's relevance is not immediately apparent Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:16, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
 * OK. Thanks. Feline Hymnic (talk) 16:55, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

What's the anagram
@Feline Hymnic your anagram was redacted, who was it. Donald Trump? The-symbiant (talk) 23:15, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I see that all identifying information in that chat has been redacted by someone else. On reflection, I think that redaction was the correct decision, on the basis of not revealing personal information about "K...".  Also that I myself should have realised in advance about that, and that I should not have made by post. All I'll say is that the result of the anagram of scammer "K..."'s pseudonym was a three word phrase which included the word "fail". To say any more would create the possibility of readers here reverse engineering towards the "K..." name, which would be in contravention of the wise decision to redact it. All the best! Feline Hymnic (talk) 23:35, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thats rubbish, you need more than a name to identify a person. If i said John Smith, do you know who the individual is? The-symbiant (talk) 00:04, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * and quite frankly if someone is a scamming crook, why protect them? The-symbiant (talk) 00:06, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * , has it occurred to you that the scammer may have falsified that name as well? These people are paid professional liars. Cullen328 (talk) 00:11, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't make the WP rules. But I do try to abide by them.  If there were to be one with which I seriously disagreed, then I would raise that at the relevant talk page for the rule, in this case, WP:OUTING. And I made a mistake in potentially further breaching it.  The redaction was done by some else, not me.  You probably want to chat to them, rather than me. Feline Hymnic (talk) 00:14, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I had to transfer money to him, i had his bank account name. He also contacted me on LinkedIn so i knew his LinkedIn false id.
 * When yo transfer money directly to a users bank, the name has to match. The-symbiant (talk) 00:24, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

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Where does it say a notable person's own account is not a source? You are in error about external links too. I took the gettymusic links off.Summerdays1 (talk) 22:05, 22 November 2023 (UTC)


 * For an editor who doesn't edit that often (looking back a few years) you have strongly held opinions which aren't necessarily following principles of wikis or this site... overlinking (are you saying that any mention of countries or terms related to them should not have links?). You correct or attempt to remedy edits so you aren't editing on your own but just "checking up" on others. External links? Took the "promo links" off. There are at least a few other areas where you could be not following Wikipedia principles. Are you going to go take down all references to countries?Summerdays1 (talk) 22:24, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * As for the Townend page, his father is mentioned and then it uses the words after his death referencing John Townend. Thus you have to use a first name in the next sentence.Summerdays1 (talk) 22:30, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

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