User talk:Fenian Swine/Archive 2

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Greetings Fenian Swine, I have been trying to have a reasoned discussion about your username with the self important and opinionated 'admins' here. I thought you might like to know that one particularly authoritarian specimen has listed your name on RFC, suggesting you be 'forced' to change it. As is usual with their kind they had not even the courtesy to let you know. You may wish to go and comment. Sorry for the various anon IP's but I have already fallen foul of their elitist 'shoot first, ask later' methods. Cheers. --84.68.18.21 15:49, 23 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I did warn you, FS, of the sort of trouble your name would get you in to. Whatever serious work you do on Wikipedia will be completely overshadowed by your username and that is not in your best interests. What is likely to happen is that you will find your name banned as offensive and you will be forced to change it or it will be changed over your head. If you want to make serious contributions, you would be well advised to change it, or at least translate it into Irish so that English speakers do not know what it means. You are going to end up with continuous aggro from users as long as you call yourself Fenian Swine and people suspicious of your name will watch every edit you make for bias or vandalism because they will presume you are simply on Wikipedia to cause trouble. It really isn't worth the hassle, man, if all you are doing is trying to contribute to Wikipedia. Fear ÉIREANN [[Image:Ireland coa.png|10px]]\(caint)  23:48, 23 August 2005 (UTC)


 * " [..] at least translate it into Irish [..]" - what, Moc na bhFiain?? :-D Sorry, sorry! - Pete C &#9997;  23:53, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Don't worry most people agree with me.see this and this.--Fenian Swine 23:56, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

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>>"I assume you mean semi-literate?" —— No. Not really. Squib 00:56, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * No worries. Americans hate hyphens even more than boorish internet handles. Squib 01:10, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Your username has been blocked indefinitely because it is either inappropriate or too similar to an existing username (see our blocking policy for more information). You are encouraged to create a new account and contribute to Wikipedia under a more appropriate username, and in a constructive manner. See Username for guidance on selecting an appropriate username. You may also edit Wikipedia without creating an account. You are not allowed to edit Wikipedia under an inappropriate username. If you would like to discuss the block, you may edit your talk page or email the administrator who blocked you. Due to Wikipedia's mechanism for enforcing name changes, your IP address may be temporarily blocked. Unless you have also been engaging in vandalism, we will remove that block as soon as possible&mdash;if this doesn't happen within an hour or so, please email an administrator and explain the situation (see the list of administrators). If you want to keep the contributions from your old account for your new one, leave a note on Changing username. This can only be done before you create the new one. If you wish to create a new username, please visit Changing username for information. Zoe 05:08, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

Under which authority have you blocked this username Zoe? I see no concensus for a block on either WP:AN or RfC. You seem be acting unilaterally on this one. Some of you admins need to be locked up or put on a leash, this is just an abuse of power. Tiocfaidh Ar La! --81.79.249.207 06:17, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * That's Tiocfaidh Ár Lá - If you're going to use silly Provo slogans in a vain attempt to intimidate, at least try to spell them properly. Another reason why the username was provocative in the first place - Pete C &#9997; 06:51, 24 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I apologise for failing to use non standard characters in my edit. Be less pedantic and try addressing the real point - under what authority has Zoe blocked this user name? Where is the concensus for it?  The only substantial vanity that pervades WP, oozes out from WP:AN and other hangouts used by the self proclaimed 'admins'. The sycophantic ramblings emanating from these forums really is vomit inducing at times.  Next you will tell me there is no cabal. --81.79.249.207 07:30, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Look, if you're here to stir up the shit, you succeeded. If you're not, why not just change the name? No one's attacking your political beliefs. Some people are sensitive about what they perceive to be attacking or aggressive user names. You could call yourself The Fenian or even The Swine, and I think there would be no harm done. We're here to build an encyclopaedia, so what does it matter what we're called? Clair de Lune 08:03, 24 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Please see my response on RfC. I am not here to stir up shit, rather I am here over a matter of principle.  I am also not Fenian Swine or Muc Fíníneach as he may be about to become, though I think he should stick to his guns. --81.79.249.207 08:49, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Muc Fíníneach. Go for it.

Lapsed Pacifist 08:10, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

How effective is this block considering I can still edit.--Fenian Swine 13:44, 24 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Show some gratitude BITCH :) --Mr Swine 16:38, 24 August 2005 (UTC)


 * c'mon BITCH, speak up. woops --Mr Swine 17:24, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Mr. Swine
I don't hate you, I only thought your User name was inappropriate. I personally don't have a problem with the new one, though I know what it means, I'll leave it up to a Gaelic speaker to ojbect. I have blocked Mr. Swine indefinitely. Zoe 23:55, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

Dublin Mean Time
Anyone willing to help see here

Fuss
Sorry to bother you about username things, but might I suggest that you create an account for "Muc Fíníneach" (even if you don't intend to use it). Because, if you don't, somebody else might. We have too many impersonation attempts as it is. As far as I am concerned you can name yourself after any mammal you like. Radiant_ &gt;|&lt; 10:35, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

Also you won't get the "you have new messages" notice when someone posts a message here. And the user contributions link wont appear in the toolbox. Theresa Knott (a tenth stroke) 11:54, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * look I didnt create the problem.I did not block myself.So I'm not dealing with the consequences.Talk to the admin who started all this off.The best I can do for you is to change my name back to 'Fenian Swine'.: ).--Muc Fíníneach 14:11, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually your username still is Fenian Swine. It looks like someone has registered this account now and are going round making offensive comments in your name. I'm off to block the account now for trolling and will delete your redirects to this page. BTW I couldn't care less about your username. Theresa Knott (a tenth stroke) 17:37, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

How can you re-unify that which was never unified in the first place?
I'm not disputing the existance of the Irish nation. What I am asking about is how Ireland could or can yet be re-unified as one policial unit covering the whole island, when such a thing never was. Fergananim 25 August 2005
 * you clearly have different views to the ones I have based on some of the edit's you've made.Ireland was a single political unit as The Kingdom Of Ireland.And by anti-british I mean against british.No matter how much people of Ireland like to sugar coat it,many Irish people do not like brits(english) and put down everything british(english).It was discused on the Moncrieff show yesterday(NewsTalk 106 and many people showed their anti-british(english) feelings.On the Celtic Isles thing,it is not an official article or anything.I'm entitled to my opinion.--Play Bobby Moore 22:27, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

No, it wasn't (unless you are happy to accecpt that the King of such a Kingdom sat in London). I don't know how many times I have to repeat this (but once more with feeling) Ireland was never a single political unit under Gaelic control. You had different individual kingdoms but never a unified Irish state - which is the crux of my argument that you cannot have Irish reunification because it never existed in the first place.: You originally asked How can you re-unify that which was never unified in the first place.You never said anything about it being gaelic ruled.You are a huge hypocrite and are not welcome to edit this page anymore.Get your facts right and you may.--Play Brian Moore 22:08, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Being anti-British is another subject but seeing as you keep brining it up ... Britian and England are two different things. Britian is the name of the island of which the English nation is a part (the others being Scotland, Wales and to some, Cornwall). You clearly don't seem to understand the difference between the two; if that were so, then we (as inhabitants of one of the British Isles) could rightly be called English (or indeed British). We're not, you know.
 * I dont keep bringing it up.You asked me to please define anti-British.Also these Island are not british.Your clearly the Dope.--Play Brian Moore 22:08, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I never said Ireland was British. All I ever did was point out that the correct name for these islands is that the collective term - backed up by history - is the British Islands. Asked you to define anti-British because you frequently confused English and British, and do not seem to know that there is a difference between the two. Fergananim 02:18, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * But saying Ireland is in the British Isles,a statement i would perceive to mean that Ireland was in the Islands controlled by Britain or that the inhabitants of these isles were British,seems to imply that.When in a conversation do you use the term british isles or Ireland and the uk.I no the difference between British and English and Im saying that for the last time.--Play Brian Moore 02:27, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

So frankly I don't know how you can be against something when you clearly don't have a clue what it is you are against.

You are entitled to your opinions, but untill you can actually begin to back them up with facts and reasons why it should be so called, they are facile and to be blunt, dumb. It would be like calling these Isles the English Isles because we all speck English! If you cannot do that, or engage in civil discussion, you have no business on Wikipedia. Fergananim 17:16, 26 August 2005 (UTC)well you should get your facts right.Ever heard of gaeltacht.Well they speak this magical language there called Irish.So your wrong.We don't all speak english.HA!Gobshite.--Play Brian Moore 22:08, 26 August 2005 (UTC)


 * There are celtic roots in Scotland, which is part of Britain. Britain is not England, being British is not being English. That pisses me off no end, being called English when I am not.  First I am Scottish, second I am British, third I am a UK citizen. These islands are the British isles, your revisionist view of history will not change that. --OorWullie 17:59, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * here d*ckhead f*ck off with your absolute b*ll*cks.Ireland existed as one political unit,with a king in london,as the kingdom of ireland.I no the difference between english and british.but what im saying is I have a problem with the english people of britain.i have no problem with the scotts/welsh.And to say i have no buisness here is the biggest bunch of complete and utter b*ll*x i have ever heard in all my 15years alive.i have made serious edits to this project while u have got caught up on this 'celtic isles' debacle.i never claimed i was in infallible.i never wrote this page as a serious page.i just wrote it as a partly true statement on my user page.so f*ck off and get on with the project at hand i.e. wiki.--Play Brian Moore 21:00, 26 August 2005 (UTC) and sorry for the language but it was appropriate in the context of this stupid debate.
 * Thanks for your considered reply. It is a bit late apologising for your language after the event. Please read No_personal_attacks, you might get on better in the community. --OorWullie 16:53, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I get on grand here.I was called dumb first which provoked me.This is my explanation for my outburst.No one leaves messages on ferg's page because they assume he is right.WRONG.He is a hypocrite and is obviously misunderstanding what I'm saying.--Play Brian Moore 01:46, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * OK got your message on my talk page, thanks. I accept what you say about wanting to make a responsible contribution to WP. Not wanting to fuel fires any further, it seems to me that Fergananim was only trying to having a reasoned discussion and debate. Anyway, good luck with your WP edits, I am fairly new as well.  Cheers --OorWullie 07:18, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Dumb is a fairly mild term compared with some of the ones you have hurled my way for simply trying to show you that, interesting as some of your opinions are, they were based on false foundations. And I am very much inclined to agree that I do misunderstand you; it would help if you wrote in a more civil fashion and not spend so much time being abrasive and confrontational. If you have any personal attacks to send my way in future, please do so on my talk page so that we won't be wasteing space here, where we are supposed to be discussing the article, not scoring points off one another. Fergananim 02:14, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I have only ever been abrasive and confrontational with you.I re-iterate the fact that I never wrote an official article called The Celtic Isles.It was just an opinion.Also I never intended the line to be taken seriously.I fixed that.So I say we now,finally,close the celtic isles disscusion.--Play Brian Moore 02:21, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

It was'nt, and neither are you. 83.71.162.221 21:51, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * what u on about u unsigned user.--Play Brian Moore 21:54, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

HUH? What was that Brian Moore? It was'nt, and neither are you. You are fenian swine not Brian Moore anyway. --83.137.59.4 20:35, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Who the f*ck is Brian Moore anways? You are the dude that is unsigned not me --83.137.59.4 20:42, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Here phuckphace,create an account or stop editting my page.--Play Brian Moore 21:00, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Ta chengey ny host ny share na olk y ghra as they say where my mother's family come from. There seem to be a lot of personal attacks on this user talk page. Perhaps all concerned should take a step back ... David | Talk 22:41, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I admit it was a stupid argument in the first place but i didnt start it.--Play Brian Moore 23:15, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah but who are you dude - Brian Moore Fenian Swine or Muc Fininach. All your stuff is abusive, chill dude --212.142.33.108 20:24, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * dude,dude,dude.who are you?the skater or something.Anyway only a tiny fraction of my stuff is abusive.i have over 500 serious edits.create an account--Play Brian Moore 21:50, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

400 Club - Votes for Deletion
Please do not delete comments left on the vfd page, it is considered vandalism. I have now reverted your deletion. Thank you. --12.42.48.204 06:37, 29 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Page is fuckin toast dude HaHaHaHa Glen Prats 11:48, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * here avril lavigne,get a life and edit someone else's page.--Play Brian Moore 15:07, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Page is still fuckin toast dude HaHaHaHa. Your only life is you, Tunney, goats, bus stops and sad Irish fuckin losers that nobody heard of. Avril 16:49, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * sad fuckin losers,your some hypocritical bastard.do you have a job or life at all or do you just stay home on your computer all day s*cking your m*'* ***t.--Play Brian Moore 19:24, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Kilmacud Crokes
In what way does the article need to be cleaned up.--Play Brian Moore 01:32, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm not entirely sure. Pearle did not add the cleanup tag; she only changed it to a date-specific one.  An anonymous editor (18.60.3.22) added the cleanup tag on 27 August.  I see User:Petaholmes had added the cleanup-importance tag on 14 August.  I guess this team is notable because they've won an all-Ireland championship?  If so, that should probably be mentioned first.  I think the article could probably use a copyedit (though there may be some Irish English variations that look like errors to me) and maybe some tweaking to make it sound less like the evening sports report and more like an encyclopedia.  Sometimes similar articles are supposed to have a similar format, so you might check other teams of the same type to see if there's a template or anything. -- Beland 01:15, 1 September 2005 (UTC)