User talk:Fergananim/ArchiveIII

Join us
Hello my friend! Hope all's well for you and yours. Just checking in to see how you've been doing of late. Oh, and to invite you to join the Military (Or FULL CONTACT) History project. Just click on the link, added your name to the members' list along with your areas of interest (Which something tells me might have something to do with fair Erin;), then, if you wish add this box to your impressive collection.

Slan! My Keltic soul brother--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 14:24, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Re: Arthur Griffith and his support for the Limerick pogrom in 1904.

Anti-semitism
Needs more on the Limerick pogrom because of its significant as the last anti-Jewish pogrom in the British Isles. Also it highlights a strain of ultra nationalism/fascism that you could argue is still present in modern Sinn Fein.

Anti-semitism redux
If you want to know about Irish anti-Semitism, you could review the refugee policies of the Irish Free State under de Valera and ask how many were actually allowed in, although that didn't stop the Free State and the Republic getting a hundred million dollars in Marshall Plan monies (loans which were, obviously, never repaid), and ask how many would be refugees' lives could have been saved by the neutral country. Even today the Republic or Ireland is the most racist and insular country in Europe.

Rms125a@hotmail.com 00:56, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Ireland is an island, yes. But I think the racism there is mostly confined under bowler hats in Antrim.--shtove 23:01, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Thought for the Day
"And while Ireland holds these graves, Ireland ... shall never be at peace."

So maybe its time to let them go. Fergananim 11:13, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

"Ireland unfree shall never pe at peace, and maybe it's not --Tiocfaidh Ár Lá! 16:15, 2 March 2006 (UTC)"

Since holding onto past-their-sell-by-date ideas and dead people has brought neither freedom nor peace to some, perhaps its time to forget them as we have other irrelevant dogmas, and live in the here and now. Just an idea .. Fergananim 16:20, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps it's not, and my "here and now" sucks balls so your idea doesn't cut it with me. --Tiocfaidh Ár Lá! 16:25, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

And your inarticulate response dos'nt do it for me either. I would have liked a good, reasoned response as to why I might be wrong, but ....Fergananim 16:31, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Don't jump on a high horse and talk about articulate comments, simply calling something a dead horse isn't articulate, given the rise in votes for the likes of SF both sides of the border, the horse is very much alive. --Tiocfaidh Ár Lá! 16:38, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Dalriada
I see you've done a fair lot of work on Early Medieval Ireland, so I'm hoping you'll be able to help me with a rewrite of Dalriada, which is pretty rubbish as it is now. There's not a word about Ireland there really. I'm fairly poor on Irish history in general, so I'd be greatly obliged if you could give it a look over and make sure it's not too wrong, especially as regards before Drum Cett and after Mag Rath (which is most of it really !). Thanks. Angus McLellan 22:07, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Denis O'Conor Donn
Denis O'Conor Donn has been proposed for deletion. Please see WP:BIO for relevant guidelines and improve the article if possible. NickelShoe 21:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Ibelin
Hi Fergananim, I didn't create that image, it was User:Odejea on the French Wikipedia. I just uploaded it here. Adam Bishop 02:07, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

"Fergananim"
Hi. Just a quick question: does your username mean "The Man With No Name" in Gaelic? Thanks. SigPig 07:55, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Richard Bingham
I've just posted Richard Bingham and, after your message on my page, thought you'd be interested. Two problems: It's mostly taken from the favourable articles by HTF Knox in a 19thc Mayo history journal, but I don't have the citation - can you help? (I've read the latest DNB article by Bernadette Cunningham - the citation is probably there.) Plus, it's very long (yet only half the length of my notes), because I'm hazy on the Mayo Burke political situation and have to spell things out for myself. Perhaps you could cut out a lot of the detail with summations. And then the usual mistakes. Help appreciated. I hope you're in good health. Is your name Clint, by any chance?--shtove 23:11, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Dia is Muire duit!
Hey there&mdash;just found your note on my about page. Thanks very much: I've actually been around for a while, but I'll be hoping to see you trucking around WP:IWNB. Thanks again for the welcome. Slán agat, Blackcap (talk) 17:24, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Invasion of Ireland
Thanks for your message. Not an expert, but I see that you have also been messaging people who certainly are experts! From my only-slightly-better-than-average knowledge I would say that a dedicated article on this topic is an excellent idea. It strikes me as an important (and rather large) area of study, with many good ext sources to cite.

Listen, while I'm here, I wonder if you would mind having a wee look at a CFD discussion? A couple of days ago I started up some new categories to help organise the absolutely vast and un-navigable Category:British MPs. I wonder if you could have a look at those subcategories, eg the Irish ones, and see what you think. Personally, I am quite proud of them, and really am struggling to see why they arouse such strong opposition. The Deletion discussion is at: Ta. --Mais oui! 19:36, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_April_9

I agree with Mais oui!, there's enough and more on the Bruces' fun in Ireland for an article. Somebody (Duffy ?) wrote a whole book on it, McNamee's Wars of the Bruces devotes over 40 pages to the Irish campaigning. Count me in ! And, as said, the Category:British MPs really is a non-starter unless it has a thousand and one subcats. And why British MPs anyway ? Is the article on the insitution they sat in (or not in some cases) called British Parliament ? Rant over. Hope you're on the mend. Best wishes. Angus McLellan (Talk) 19:51, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey. I was once working on it, but then I saw the Edward Bruce article covered the topic ('though not that well, as you say). No, although the amazon profile and book cover make it look like it, Duffy didn't write a whole book on it; but what he did do is write the best two articles ever written on the topic, and gathered them, along with the other major articles on the subject, into one book: Robert the Bruce's Irish Wars: The Invasion of Ireland, 1306-29. Duffy argues that the invasion was firmly a product of the Bruce brothers' background as Carrick Gaels in the "Irish sea province" of Carrick-Galloway/Ulster, and he does seem to believe that Gaelic nationalism was important. Anyways, as Seán Duffy's book has all the main articles, the author of the potential article must really be able to get a hold of it to trace the historiographical developments. I have that book, but sadly I cannot commit myself to anything at the moment, as I am far too busy with extra-wikipedia activities. Additionally, McNamee's book and Barrow's book on Robert I are important; it was Barrow I think who discovered the Letter to the Irish Princes (dated to 1306, rather than the invasion period, by Duffy). When Barrow edited it, he couldn't believe it said nostra nacio ("our nation"), and changed it to vestra nacio ("your nation") when he first printed it, before realizing it really did say nostra nacio (hence why you get different translations of it is earlier works). It's a fascinating event in any case. Even Robert Bartlett picked up on it for his seminal book on medieval European colonialism, The Making of Europe: Conquest, Colonization and Cultural Change, 950-1350, where he places it in the context of peripheral European reactions to the expansionism of mainstream "European" culture. In short, an article on the topic should definitely come to wiki at some point. - Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 20:42, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I fixed a few links and typos, and one or two sentences about perception of Bruce, which if you read Duffy, is only evidenced by one contemporary source. Sadly I have few books with me ATM; maybe you could check out the relatively recent book by Michael Brown, The Wars of Scotland, 1214-1371 (New History of Scotland S.); if nothing else, it will contain an up-to-date bibliography. - Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 21:16, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi Ferg, further to this discussion, I definitely think that the Bruce campaign should have its own article -Bruce Wars in Ireland perhaps. I'd be in favour of moving the content added to the Edward Bruce page to this article for starters. I've long wanted to see an article on the subject, but as you know, the medieval era is a foreign country to me. Btw, I finally got round to doing anarticle on the 1651 siege of Galway see Siege of Galway if you're interested.

Jdorney 11:49, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Had a look at this and fixed some spelling. Bit of a mess to begin with, but sections 3 & 4 are well written. The section headings could be tidied up. One Q: does it mention Robert Bruce's arrival in Ireland? or did I miss something? The Irish campaign should definitely go in to the article Bruce Wars in Ireland. I did something similar with Robert Devereux, 2nd Earl of Essex and Essex in Ireland. Then link it up with the Irish battles category.--shtove 16:24, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Bruce Wars in Ireland
Hi! I'm really not sure if I can be of any help. This is completely a topic I have no idea about.  &#08492;  astique &#09660;  par &#08467; er  &#09829;  voir  &#09809;  02:31, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I have gone a bit rusty on this aspect of history and I do think an article specific to this part of our history would be of great interest, but cannot really give any opinion at moment, as I just don't know enough yet. Will read up again on the subject. Bluegold 12:01, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

The present artical is none too good, a wee bit povish, should be rewritten in a more encyclopedic style. Red blaze22:30, 13 May 2006 (UTC)


 * As a matter of record, the comment above was written by User:86.42.134.8 (talk • contribs), signature and all, but, of course there may be perfectly good reasons for this. Angus McLellan (Talk) 17:39, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Martin
Responded on my talk page--Trovatore 23:15, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Norse-Gaels
A user is adding what I regard as nonsense to the article Norse-Gaels. I am on 3RR for now, so can't revert him for now. Can you review and perhaps tell me if I am wrong to think as I do. Regards. - Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 22:09, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Desposyni
Revised and expanded your worthy article and would love to see what you make of it. Maybe if it is improved sufficently we can get it peer reviewed or as a featured article? Cheers, Fergananim 22:31, 4 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Great work. Since I am too busy working on other projects, I am happy to see someone improving it. --Loremaster 04:48, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

re Bill
Hiya. I met Bill a couple of times in groups, etc. He really is a most exceptional guy. I know a lot of politicians. I've never met a guy like him. He has an incredibly razor sharp mind, can grasp concepts before the person briefing him on them has finished explaining them (and where everyone is still trying to make head or tail of them all). I've seen him walk into a room and his presence just overwhelms the place. It isn't because he is/was president. Plenty of presidents and prime ministers, including Blair and Bush can't do that. But Clinton just has a magnetism that electrifies people around him. And watching him "work a crowd" is like getting a master class in how to do it. When he is chatting to you he focuses on you completely and, unusually for a politician, listens.

I know one friend of mine met him and chatted for less than a minute in 1998. He met him in 2002 and Clinton not only remembered his face, but who he was, who his family was, what they were talking about, and almost literally carried on the conversation they had been having four years before as if it was continuous. What is more, he had clearly thought about the issue in the intervening period. They chatted for 5 minutes and at the end my friend (an extremely cynical journalist) said that he felt that Clinton had sucked him dry, that he had tapped into his idea, discussed it with him, and by the end of the conversation Clinton knew all the key facts my friend had spent years learning. I don't know if you are a Star Trek fan but my friend said that he felt like a vulcan had tapped into his mind as shown on the show, and just drained out his ideas. One year later, my friend turned on CNN and heard an interview with Clinton where out of the blue he introduced my friend's ideas and showed that he had understood the concept and developed it, applying it in a way my friend had never thought of.

I never met him, but the only other person I have heard of who had that same intense intellectual ability to grasp ideas, develop them, while generating this intense chemistry between the person he was talking to and himself, was Pope John Paul II. (John Paul at one stage interrupted a U2 recording session by calling Bono on his mobile phone in Dublin to discuss debt relief!)

Clinton really was the most remarkable person I ever met. Even today, people who were there talk of the first meeting, and how when he talked to them he gave them his 100% intention, generated a palpable chemistry, listened to what they said and as they were there practically created a theoretical model from it which he then developed himself afterwards. Everyone from politicians and academics to a cleaner got the same attention and all had the same experience of an incredible presence and ability, and the sharpest of sharp minds. Bertie, Blair, Bush and all the rest are like nobodies compared to him. (Curiously the only other prominent people I have met who could grasp an idea and mentally develop it as a concept while you chatted with them were Garret FitzGerald and John Bruton. But neither had the personal energy and impact of Clinton. Garret was all absent-minded theory, while John was challenging, playing the devil's advocate asking you to justify x or y.) That was my experience. (BTW Hillary has the coldest 'wet fish' handshake I ever experienced!) FearÉIREANN \(caint)  00:29, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Clan FitzGerald
Thanks for the information &#8211; amazed to find I was right. I'll correct the article. John FitzGerald 21:19, 14 May 2006 (UTC)


 * FitzGerald could do with some spiffing up, too, so maybe after a session with your recommended references I'll take a stab. John FitzGerald 21:27, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Devin79
Saw your comment on Devin79's talk page following some dodgy edits he made. Your comments are heartfelt and you articulated them very well. You speak for the majority. Thanks. Fluffy999 01:59, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Fergananim. Visit. Get free demo. Listen. Does it work? It worked for me. There is nothing in this for me. The demo is as good as the "paid for" product.

Irish People collage
Hi, of course, we need more women! The problem is we can only use images that are in the public domain or under a free license. I am also a little nervous on including heroes of the republicans (or unionists) like Wolfe Tone or Michael Collins as I don't think we should set out to alienate sections of the community right from the start of the page. Arniep 21:53, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Best maybe to stick with literary folk, although Brian Boru would be a good inclusion. Fergananim, I like the addition of the Gael list, but the main article itself, (to me) doesn't read too good.  There is a lot of pov put into it by some editors that i best not mention, i am planning to rewrite some paragraphs. Taramoon 02:41, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Your message
Thanks for your message; I'm not keeping an eye on you though — I was patrolling the New Pages. Apart from anything else, it's a good way to discover new and unexpected information, as with your articles. --Phronima 17:02, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Female, but not single... --Phronima 17:06, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Scots and Irish History
Thanks for your message, it clears a few things up with me to see you, as an historian, write the facts as you see them. I have been with Wiki for about 12 months and initally edited under my IP address, very often to be very quickly reverted. For example, Irish Monks become Gaelic Monks, but Scottish Monks are always Scottish Monks. The Old Irish Language becomes Old Gaelic Language etc. The word Gaelic virtually means nothing to me. These might seem small things to some, but to me they are very important in that if the smaller detail is inaccurate, then if follows that the bigger picture lacks accuracy too. I have studied a couple of incidences on old Irish history pages and my mind is still very open as to which side was correct/incorrect. Hope you health improves in the near future. Thanks for the advice. Red blaze 22:19, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Stubs
Saw your list of stubs. I might have something typed up already on the MacEgans and the law school at Park. I could also add some brief 16thC stuff on Clandeboye. After that, I'd be knocked out. You might take a look at Spanish Armada in Ireland: I'd love to see it featured, and any tips would be welcome. Thanks.--Shtove 20:23, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Uisnech Edit
Hi, I made some changes to the kings of Uisnech stub, mostly to add in the later kings (the Clann Cholmáin genealogical chart cited as your source gives only a partial list of the kings of Uisnech. The chart was meant to accompany the studies of the kings and queens of Tara that appeared in The Kingship and landscape of Tara; since these studies mainly dealt with kings and queens dating from the legendary period to the early eighth century, a considerable number of later kings of Uisnech were not included.) I hope these changes are okay: this was my first time submitting to Wikipedia and I'm not sure if I violated any etiquette. If so, many apologies.

Aine nic 15:44, 9 June 2006 (UTC)Aine_nic

Map
Well, I draw new maps, but I do not change maps created by other people. The page of that 1430 Europe map claim that it was drawn by Lynn H. Nelson, medieval and world history professor at the University of Kansas. I do not want to change his work if I do not have his permission for that. That would be also a violation of copyright status of that image. I suggest that you find another map which present correct situation from that time period and to post this new map into articles where current map is posted at the present moment. PANONIAN  (talk)  20:31, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Category:Irish musicians
Hi. I saw your edit to Eimear Quinn in which you've added that article to Category:Irish musicians, and I see you've done the same to several other Irish female singers' articles, all of which were already in Category:Irish female singers. A couple of points occur to me:

You set the category sort keys to "given-name surname" order, e.g. "Eimear Quinn". That results in the article being listed on the Category page under the given name rather than the surname; in this example, "E" rather than "Q". I would have thought that the latter would be more useful (and consistent with the other members of the category), hence the Category link would be:. I've edited that example; perhaps you'd like to change the others?

The other thought is: have you considered this guideline: Categorization/Categories and subcategories? Personally, I'm not fussy about the matter. If you think it's useful to have these articles in both categories I have no objection, but some other editors might differ.

(I've temporarily added your Talk page to my watchlist, so you can reply here.)

Cheers. Charivari 04:54, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

New articles
They look good ! Thanks for letting me know. Quick question: Frank Byrne refers to the Clann Cholmáin king Conall son of Suibne (died 635) as Colman Guthbinn. Is that still current os should I say Colman mac Suibni ? Also, other than Mide, was he king of ? Uisnech I'd guess. Angus McLellan (Talk) 13:56, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Fergananim, how can you talk with these people, just look at the POV he is pushing, with his friend Calgacus, on the Harp page, a rv war going in action. They are insisting that the Brian Boru Harp is Scottish. 86.42.136.115 16:21, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey Bluegold; nice try, but Fergananim is too level headed to become an arch POV-pusher like yourself. - Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 15:32, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Fergananim is too old and ill to get involved in such energetic discussions. But thanks for the vote of support, Calgacus! Fergananim 21:31, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks ! I finally got to the end of Flann Sinna, although there's a lot of stuff I'm none too sure of. It's a pity there's no translation of the Book of Leinster on the interweb anywhere that I can find. Still, maybe those nice CELT people will get there soon. I'd appreciate it if you could give a quick skim through to see if there are any clangers. Cheers ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 12:15, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointers. All the best ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:23, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Máire Herbert says "Land d. of the king of Ossory", but I'm not sure really. I'll just remove her name as it doesn't much matter. Something for his pa when he get's an article.
 * 2) I'll try and sort that.
 * 3) Leargus should be Lergas according to the Four Masters, Chronicon Scotorum and the Annals of Ulster. Blame my bad handwriting.
 * 4) Tailtiu, yes.
 * 5) The Luigni of Connaught. Bloody Eóganachta on the brain.
 * 6) And after getting Cormac's name right the first time. Gah !

Thanks for welcome
Fergananim, thanks for the welcome. Sorry for the HTML errors. One day I'll learn to separate my square brackets from tildas, ass from elbow, etc. Aine nic 23:21, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Fergananim, this guy worked wonders for me, hope you don't mind me adding it here,and free, which says a lot

Toasties
The first link to any of the Toasted Heretic pages! Ben-w 04:37, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, so it was *your* fault!! I accidentally found the page on WP and ended up buying the CD. *sigh* College nostalgia :-) - Alison&#9997; 20:04, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

John de Courcy Ireland
I'll see what I can do. There's a stub article here - I'll see if I can flesh it out .... - Alison&#9997; 20:05, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Move
With little hope of success, I requested a move on Talk:Scots language (to Lowland Scots). I invite you to contribute. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 23:38, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Gestating
Hi there. Thanks for sending me the links to the new articles. Is it okay if I take a while to get back to you on them? Our first baby is due today and, while there's no movement yet on that front, my brain is not currently working. Aine nic 20:50, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Imperator Scotorum
Hi. I notice you included a reign box for Brian Boru as "imperator Scotorum". Are there any major sources calling him by that title? Also,since nobody bore it before or since, and calling himself so was most likely a bit of bombast on Brian's part (or that of his Armagh partisans) rather than a proper title, what's the point of mentioning it in a box, rather than simply where it is in the body of the text? --Svartalf 01:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I do disagree to a point... but am not enough of a scholar in the history of Ireland to effectively argue it either way. I don't know exactly what amount of control Brian had over the lands that were not under his direct sway and his vassal kings, and even less what kind of power later High Kings had. The only thing I know for sure is that the feuding and power struggles did go on, or Diarmaid Mc Murrough would not have been in a position to think he would benefit from calling the Normans in, and we would have been spared strongbow's invasion and possibly all the later history of sassanach domination... but really, I've not yet had oportunity to study that period in proper detail... lack of conveniently handy and sufficiently thorough study material being partly to blame, the rest being that I keep pursuing 3 or four fields at once. I'll follow any debate with interest, though. --Svartalf 17:09, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Redirect vote
Hiya Ferganainm, You might want to vote on this redirect as the article's current function is to say that part of Ireland is part of Britain (as opposed to the UK): Talk:Britain El Gringo 14:39, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that, Ferganainm. However, did you not mean to agree with the redirect? :-) If Britain is redirected to Great Britain this article saying Britain and the UK are the same dies. El Gringo 17:32, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Irish Women
I added Mary Robinson's picture to the body of the article as I figured it was a safe choice. I'd also like to include some other pictures of women in the body of the article, and I would hope there could be some in the infobox as well, however I don't know how to go about doing that. This website contains a list of potential famous Irish women, however it highly nationalist and republican, and I was wondering if you think any of the other women included would be suitable. Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated. Kevlar67 04:19, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Open Water
Since you ask what happens at the end of the movie Open Water, the guy gets bit bad by a shark and dies from loss of blood, and the girl then purposely goes under to drown herself after he dies. Not the most uplifting of movies. --70.179.119.138 01:29, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Edward Bruce
Hi! I noted your comment on the talk page of the quite dreadful Edward Bruce. Are you still intending to do something about this? If not, I will have a go at 'saving the patient' myself. Did you see the point about his marriage which 'may or may not have taken place' prior to his death? I have to assume from this wording that it could have taken place after his death! Rcpaterson 23:05, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

This and that
Hope you're well. I'm meaning to do a few more Irish king stubs, but I have some doubts about orthography. If you happen to be checking the big RIA histories, would you be able to check whether they use Suibne Mend (mac Fiachnai) or (like Frank Byrne) Suibne Menn ? I was also thinking of polishing up Flann Sinna and Feidlimid mac Cremthainn (or is it called Feidlimid mac Cremthanin ?) with a view to putting them up as Good Articles. Any suggestions on books ? I have Frank Byrne and O Croinin's Early Medieval Ireland, but that's about it. Are the old Gill & MacMillan books (Ireland before the Vikings, Ireland before the Normans) any good ? Or can you recommend something else ? Brian Boru ought to be the easiest Irish king to do a GA on, but what's there is not very good and would need redoing from scratch just about. Cheers ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:31, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note. Offended ? You must be kidding ! I saw the Diarmait mac Murchada book somewhere, so maybe I'll order up a copy someday. The Brian one I don't know of, so that would be handy. I'm still a big vague on the Gall-Gaidhil, so there ought to be something in there of use. I've not been up to much lately, what with it being really hot (so I couldn't be arsed), then being away, and now being up to my eyes in work. Anyway, I've had a long day, so I'm off to bed. All the best ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 20:59, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Madden
Great set of interests. Where's the Maddens though?! We get such a short shrift mention in any history of Galway and yet they were of immense importance once upon a yesteryear. They were one of the few major families to retain their supremacy in east Galway under the De Burgos, for example. And held the O'Connors in safety when Cromwell's men came a'looking for them. My Dad's from Connemara. I'm off 'home' in a couple of weeks to see family. Maybe I should add something into the Ui Maine article...slip the Maddens in there! Ps - there's an article on here about a direct relation of mine, Owney Madden Iamlondon 03:42, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Farrell
Indeed its a sad thing that causes people to come to foreign places with the intent of blowing them to bits, and no glory in it. Its something that should be documented though. I saw the fuss after the shooting walking home, and was due in the bank on the Tuesday morning having often watched the bandsmen assembling in the road outside. By chance I was also in Dublin when the Omagh atrocity took place and saw the shock and revulsion it produced around me. These things achieve very little else because they only affect the man in the street, and if blown up he can no longer vote, so is of no interest to politicians.

And the Gibraltar incident spoilt the upcoming St Patricks day festivities, which were cancelled.

--Gibnews

Your rant on my talk page.
Hell, I don't take you seriously either. Hasbro 18:16, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Vote
There is a vote going on at Talk:Cináed I of Scotland to move loads of early Scottish kings to anachronistic English names which are going out of favour in English language publications. People supporting the move have no knowledge or contribution history in the area, yet the wiki pop voting will nevertheless result in a victory unless they are opposed. Regards. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 16:12, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

See what I found !
I came across Murchad while browsing "what links here" pages. I suspect that should be moved, being as how there are quite a few Murchads around. I'll leave it to you to decide where it should be moved to. Hope you're well. All the best ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:01, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

AncientSites
...or Ancientworlds... Do you come from there? Bastique &#09660; parler voir 15:40, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

RFC Devin79
I finally have lost patience with this guy. I know you ahve also clashed with him. The RFC is up and running here Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/User:Devin79. Please endorse! Jdorney 12:01, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Your to-do list
Just in case you're poised to start work, I have done Máel Sechnaill mac Maíl Ruanaid which is on your list. Sorry ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 15:15, 17 September 2006 (UTC) P.S. If you have a minute, can you give Cerball mac Dúnlainge a look over. I cleaned up Cerball mac Muirecáin, but there are a whole pile of not-even-stubs Uí Dúnlainge kings of Leinster which need expanding. Trust you're as well as can be expected and hopefully a damn sight better ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:22, 17 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry to hear things aren't so good. I hope they get better. I'll certainly have a look at Martyn, although I don't suppose I'll be able to much beyond adding a pair of proof-reading eyes. The thing you asked about is "Novel disseisin". Googling comes up with a fair bit of stuff. If I remember right, and I did once read a book on English legal history long ago, it's where John Doe and Richard Roe came from. Cheerio for now ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:21, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi there!
Hello there. Thank you for your very kind thoughts on my talk page. Things are just fine here, all considered. I took a wiki break over the last month or so as we've just moved to California from dreary ol' Cork. :) My eldest has started school over here now & little James is beginning to talk. Won't be long before he's editing here :) Saw your comments on someone else's page and I'm sorry to hear things have been rough. Been there myself in the past. Hopefully, things are better now.

Anyways - lovely to hear from you! Beir bua 's beannachtaí - Alison&#9997; 14:03, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
 * pmail me and I'll explain, if you like - - Alison&#9997; 14:17, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

John Smoke Johnson
Hi... it is such a coincidence that you mention that article. I mentioned at Image talk:Six Nations survivors of War of 1812.jpg that I was purchasing a print of the image used there, because the available online copy was damaged. The print just arrived and I am in the process of scanning it. Jkelly 15:59, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the recommendation! Jkelly 16:40, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

St Seachnaill
Hi, it looks like your addition to November 27 was deleted because we don't currently have an entry for St Seachnaill or St Seachnall. Would it be possible for you to create a (stub?) article for him? BTW, this reference says he died in 457. -- Jim Douglas 16:48, 22 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I think possibly someone is being a touch dogmatic deleting this reference; there are plenty of existing entries in the day pages that refer to legitimate historical figures for whom articles do not yet exist. I wouldn't have deleted it myself, but I guess it's a matter of how you rigidly you interpret the general policy. -- Jim Douglas 21:35, 22 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I can't say it's a specific interest...my knowledge of Irish saints is limited to some vague ideas about Saint Patrick chasing out the snakes. (BTW, on a slightly different subject, I would like to thank Ireland for the Corrs.) :-) Jim Douglas 21:51, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

As it says on each date page, 'Do not add people without Wikipedia articles to this list'. Write the article, indicating the dates which can be checked, then add the listing. --CalendarWatcher 23:52, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

List of years in Ireland
Hi there. I see you've done a lot of work with List of years in Ireland. Some of the navigation bars contain three examples of the same year. For example, 444 in Ireland's top bar reads:

See also: 444 in Ireland, other events of 444, 444 in Ireland and the list of 'years in Ireland'.

Is this supposed to read:

See also: 443 in Ireland, other events of 444, 445 in Ireland and the list of 'years in Ireland'. ?

If so, do all of these need to be adapted? I'm prepared to do the legwork if this is the case. Bobo. 20:49, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Fergananim said: Hi Bobo; No, as far as I know what you quoted above first is the rule(ie, "See also: 444 in Ireland, other events of 444, 444 in Ireland and the list of 'years in Ireland'"). I've only adapted this from other work that has gone before me. However, if you do find any mistakes please feel free to fix them, as its being a struggle against bad health to get even this up and running. Thanks for dropping a line! Is mise

Okay. Thank you for replying. I was really comparing it with material such as, 2004 in India, where the links are: See also: 2003 in India, other events of 2004, 2005 in India.

To link three times to the same year seems strange as the links become bolded rather than blue-linked. Do you see this as causing a problem? Bobo. 21:03, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Fergananim said: Honestly? I'm not too sure, now that you've pointed it out. I guess the problem is no-one else is doing stuff this far back in Ireland. If you think that it will cause problems, then fire away, with my blessing. I need all the help I can get!

I'll do a couple, then I'll reply to let you see what you think. I won't rush into anything too hasty just in case it doesn't look pretty. Thank you. Bobo. 21:07, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Done two of them
I've done 444 in Ireland and 445 in Ireland, see what you think. Bobo. 21:09, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Fergananim said: No Bother; I'm taking a well-earned breck for a few minutes, and I'll check your stuff out when I get back.

What do you think of the pages now? As I say, I've just done the two of them, 444 in Ireland and 445 in Ireland. Bobo. 21:13, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Fergananim said: Well done, that looks far better! Thanks for the help.

I'll continue working now that I'm awake again.. Thank you for your feedback. Bobo. 02:15, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

That's all the blue links done
I've finished working on the blue links from List of years in Ireland, now all we've got to make sure is that when the new articles are created from the redlinks, that we work from the same template rather than adding the wrong header accidentally. Regards. Bobo. 03:08, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Timeline of Irish history
Is there any particular reason why you contacted me about this? Kusma (討論) 07:10, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Early Christian Ireland
The Irish History series is missing Early Christian Ireland, so I have started cobbling up an article at User:Angusmclellan/Early Christian Ireland. I haven't got very far (I spent ages faffing about with the Image label thingy on the maps), but I hope to get it finished in a week or two. If you want to add anything or fix anything, jump right in. Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:23, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Nice articles, especially Cenn Fáelad mac Aillila ! I'm sorry to hear you're still not feeling good, hope things get better for you. I'll have a look at the timeline things when I get a minute - busy evening filling in tax returns ! - and add anything I can find. All the best ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:35, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the note and the info. I will see about more maps, now that I've just about got the hang of it. I'll have a look at that Landscape of Tara book. Irish books are a lot cheaper here, only a couple of euros over the cover price, than British or American ones. I'm in deepest, darkest Belgium, so maybe faxing stuff isn't so easy. I have a whole heap of stuff on Aldfrith, enough to write a very long article indeed. Was there anything in particular you were after ? Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:55, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Transwiki request
Dia duit a Fhirganainm, yeah I'll give some of them a shot. I'm at colege now, so I won't get started till the weekend at the earliest, but I'm always looking for some subject matter. My fluency may be lacking to translate everything, but I'm up for a challenge. Thanks for getting in contact. Out of curiosity, where did you get my name from? Joe Byrne -- Talk -- Contribs - ga: - fr: - - 13:20, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Tom Clancy
I'm totally agree with your view on Tom Clancy, that sound like propaganda. Clear and Present Danger sound like Committee on the Present Danger in the cold war.

RRS
Saw your question on Calgacus's talk page. RRS is Regesta Regum Scottorum 1153-1424, eleven thrilling volumes starting with "Acts of Malcolm IV". I suppose it stops in 1424 because some other series begins then (having done a bit googling, that's probably it, APS - Acts of the Parliament of Scotland - starts then). Cheers ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 16:51, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Sean Ó Ceasaigh
Can you have a look at Sean Ó Ceasaigh ? Never heard of the man myself, but that doesn't prove anything: I've always thought the best way to play the bodhran was with a penknife. All the best ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 15:18, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Burkes
Hello Fergananim. I hope you're keeping better. There's a discussion at User talk:Burkem about some dubious articles on various Burkes. The ones before William de Burgh are pretty much settled. I was wondering if you'd have time to look at some of the later ones, Lords of Connaught in particular. There's a list at User:Burkem/review_list if you're feeling up to checking them. All the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 12:29, 4 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I see you're round and about, so that's good news. I had a bit of brainstorm and started The Destruction of Da Derga's Hostel. Any chance you could have a look in your trusty Encyclopaedia of Ireland and add something ? Ignore the underconstruction thing, that's just to stop any so and so deleting it for being a miserable stub until it gets to a half decent size ! I'm off to read the damn story so I have a vague idea what the hell I'm on about. All the best ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 19:40, 27 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I'd appreciate some input from you on Clanricarde. (We also have The Clanricarde and Mac William Uachtar; some merging is in order.) A source I've found suggests that the tracing of the Clanricarde lineage from an illegitimate son of William de Burgh is in error, and that the same genealogy makes the long-debunked error of identifying him as William FitzAldelm de Burgh. The alternative genealogy offered is as follows: William de Burgh->Richard Mor de Burgh->Sir William Og de Burgh (d. 1270)->William Liath Burke (d. 1324)->Edmond Albanach Burke and Ulick Burke of Annaghkeen, who became Mac William Iochtar and Mac William Uachtar respectively. Is it possible that Clanricarde is actually named after Richard Og Burke, second Mac William Uachtar? It seems odd that descent from Richard Mor de Burgh, shared among most of the Irish Burkes, should be applied specifically to one of the two septs of MacWilliam. Certainly the Annals of the Four Masters refer to both chiefs as "Mac William" long before they use "Clann Rickard". Any sources you can bring to bear on the problem are appreciated. Choess 02:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Good to see you
Hiya Fergananim--good to see your name pop up again. Just wanted to say hello. Enjoy the holidays! Dppowell 18:44, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Nice to see you back! Your prezzie awaits :) - Alison✍ 18:54, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry to hear you haven't been well. Hope the holidays are peaceful & that we'll see you back here next year, all refreshed and ready to rock. Take care! - Alison✍ 19:13, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Same here, glad to see you around. Hope you have a not-too-bad time over the holidays. I'm afraid I haven't got a prezzie for you (and if I had done, I'd probably have scoffed it myself). All the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:37, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Reply from Cat Constantine
''Hi there, just saying hi. Done anything new recently? Fergananim 21:15, 15 November 2006 (UTC)''

Hello there, sorry for the late reply. I've done little but minor edits lately, but I'm still alive, and I've just started an article on Muintearas. Any imput you may have on that would be appreciated, actually! Cat Constantine 23:10, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Baron Inchiquin and Prince Thomond
Hi, I merged the two articles since you said on the talk page you didn't mind. However looking at it now, I'm not entirely sure that was the right thing because the lists are different. What exactly was the relationship between the Barons and the Princes? I went to the webpage in the external links but found the whole site confusing. Tocharianne 22:33, 30 December 2006 (UTC)