User talk:Ferreira.david.j

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David
Please don't write about yourself unless you follow the notability standards at WP:BIO. See also WP:COI. Your advertising for your own book, which does not seem to have any meaningful Google hits, could be considered spam. I have reverted your edits, and those of the anon who is coming along behind you, to the article at David. Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 23:05, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Dear Editor - is there some way I can add my book to this page? I feel it is very relevant, since it is a accurate and realistic rendition of the life of King David - published by a very reputable publishing house! The book will not have much Google hits since it is a new publication (May 2009). I put much work into the paragraph, and tried to make it as relevant and constructive as possible.

Hi there! This sounds a bit complicated. Prob easiest if you could talk to us live. If not, I'll happily help you below; just let me know by editing this page and adding something below. Cheers!  Chzz  ►  23:39, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

I tried to connect on the chat site - but it's not responding. Can we perhaps chat this way? I spent over an hour to write a paragraph that had internal links and external links that were useful to your readers... any way I can add my book to the David site?


 * No problem chatting here instead. I'll take a look at the book, and reply here soon. Don't worry about adding more "helpme" stuff, I'll be 'watching' this page.  Chzz  ►  23:52, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

That would be highly appreciated. I assume you still have the paragraph that I wrote recorded somewhere? Do you need any info? Please let me know. Thanks!


 * At the moment, no, I'm not clear on the para. Please either;
 * Give me the diff
 * or
 * copy the para to this dialogue

Also, please 'sign' all the edits you make to talk pages (here), with ~ at the end of each. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  00:38, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, there CHZZ. Below are the paragraphs that I had added to the David article, but was removed. The book is published by Bridge-Logos - a publisher selling many awesome titles for over 50 years, with numerous bestsellers (see http://www.bridgelogos.com/comingsoon.htm). I feel that the book is hugely relevant, since it gives much more info on the character, both the world of the ancient Israelites, as well as the customs, rituals, and much of David's life from various recorded and important texts. The book can definitely serve as further reading about the biblical King David. Kindly let me know how I can list my new book in the article, or if I can just add these paragraphs again. Looking forward to your reply. Thanks a mil!

“David is one of those extraordinary historical figures who has a literary future. That is, his memory and presence keep generating more and more stories.” - Walter Brueggemann. Today there are numerous fiction and non-fiction publications following the life and times of David ben Jesse. For further study on the topic in fiction, there is a latest Historical Christian Fiction work by David J. Ferreira, David – The Warrior King (USA: Bridge-Logos, 2009) (add external link). Alternatively, for academic reads, consider all the fascinating work of the Old Testament scholar, Walter Brueggemann (add internal link), as well as the publication by Juan Bosch, David: The Biography of a King (London: Chatto & Windus, 1966) (add internal link). See (link internally to the content paragraph on this page, ‘Literature’).

For the Literature section of this article: The historical novel by David J. Ferreira portrays David in a realistic and revealing light based on much research, which scrupulously adheres to the recorded history in the Bible. The novel follows David’s rise to power, from anointing to crowning. The following books in the David series will follow the events recorded in the Books II Samuel, 1 Kings 1-2; Psalms 89 and 132; Lamentations 3:21-27; Isaiah 55:3; and 1 Chronicles 10-29.Ferreira.david.j (talk) 09:33, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi again. Note, it's not just me that answers the help system - there's lots of others; I just happen to have come to yours. You may well get help from others later; howefully they'll read back over what I've written.


 * Looking at the 2 para's, I can see why they were removed - it does sounds a bit like an advert for the book, in the sense that it's more about the *book* than it is about *David*. Articles should be broad in scope, but the wording above with regard to the specific book is somewhat outside that remit. I am no expert, but I imagine that there are thousands of books that talk of David - to achieve a fair WP:WEIGHT, we'd have to list them all, and the article would be unfeatably big.


 * I suggest 2 possible courses of action, plus ONE VERY IMPORTANT POINT.


 * It may, just about, be appropriate to add a single line from the book, NOT quoted, with a ref to the book. You'd paraphrase from the book. Not in quotes. Example, David is a significant historical figure in literary. His memory and presence keep generating more and more stories. {{citation title= (etc; fill in book details here, inc ISBN; see WP:CITE for guide). This means that the publication will not appear in the body of the article; you certainly will not 'get away with' putting the name of Brueggemann in the article. Note, if you do this, I would advise you to suggest the edit on the articles talk page, rather than making the edit yourself.
 * It's possible that there could be an article on the book itself, if it meets the notability requirements Notability (books). If that's the case, you should follow the standard 'COI' practice - develop it in your user area, work on it there, and then do not create it yourself, but instead use the request for aerticle system. This is all detailed in WP:COI and WP:BESTCOI. I'd also recommend you read WP:BFAQ.


 * Important bit  You will probably have a much happier time if you spend a bit of time editing other existing articles - ones with which you are not directly involved - for a while. By doing so, you'll learn a lot more about the way Wikipedia works. That's why I really recommend, overall, that you forget about the book thing for a while. Get some editing experience under your belt.


 * With that in mind, please forgive me putting another 'welcome' thing below. I know you've had one before, and it's similar, but it does have some more rather direct suggestions about how to get started - which is why I hope it will help.


 * Best regards,  Chzz  ►  10:54, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Welcome
Hi,. This is NOT some automated message...it's from a real person. You can talk to me right now. Welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed you've just joined, and wanted to give you a few tips to get you started. If you have any questions, please talk to us. The tips below should help you to get started. Best of luck!  Chzz  ►  10:54, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks CHZZ - will do... :-) Ferreira.david.j (talk) 11:21, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Your edits to David
Attempting to insert references to a book which you wrote is considered a WP:conflict of interest. If the book is indeed notable and relevant, someone else will add it to Wikipedia. Thank you. Wperdue (talk) 14:54, 13 April 2009 (UTC)wperdue