User talk:Fibonacci/Archive0

Hello. Might I ask why you have noted the screenshots of Pokemon games as GFDL? I presume you don't own the copyright to the games or the characters?. Morwen 17:39, Feb 29, 2004 (UTC)


 * Answered in your talk page. Fibonacci 01:19, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Welcome
Buon giorno, Fibonacci! Welcome to Wikipedia.

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Again, welcome! - BCorr ¤ Брайен 02:01, Mar 1, 2004 (UTC)

Hi there. Thanks for your note on the new user log. Thanks for your contributions. If studying math during the day isn't enough for you, you may be interested in WikiProject Mathematics, which can always use more help.

Happy editing, Isomorphic 06:29, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hi. I saw you listed at this Wikipedia page as someone interested in physics. I wonder if you can provide any help with this page: Why 10 dimensions? I am interested in Ramanujan Modular Functions and how they are used in String Theory. JWSchmidt 20:03, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Regarding FeminineTails.png
Hi. Where did you get http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:FeminineTails.png ? Do you have permission from the author? WhisperToMe 06:05, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)


 * Finally answered on your talk page. --Fibonacci 03:17, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Italian grammar
If you're not too busy, could you please fill the Italian language article with more information and links on Italian grammar? Thanks. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk)]] 23:09, Oct 15, 2004 (UTC)


 * Right now I'm very busy with my studies, so I don't think I can do anything. But I will as soon as I can (don't expect it to happen before december, though...). --Fibonacci 19:52, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
 * Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
 * Multi-Licensing Guide
 * Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the " " template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:


 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace " " with "  ". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Angel Melendez
Hi Fibo! First of all, thank you for rwading the article about Angel Melendez that I originated. It is always charming to know someone else reads articles originated by me.

Well, I saw "Party Monster", and I read about Michael Alig. I also used several Internet references, such as this one:

one can find many features about Mr. Melendez here.

The fact I am interested in Latin Americans and I am Puerto Rican, and he lived in New York, New York, which made me think there was a possibility he was Puerto Rican, were also intriguing to me. He was, in fact, a Colombian.

When originating articles, I realize we need to do research and stay as close to the information on other artickles, without adding or leaving anything out, but, at the same way, creating the article in our own way. Because this is a factual encyclopedia, I try to keep as close to a subject's information as I can.

I suppose youre from Italy or Argentina. In either case, Im an aviation fan and Alitalia and Aerolineas Argentinas are among my favorite airlines!

Thanks for everything and God bless you!

Sincerely yours, "Antonio He-Man Martin"


 * Well, I wasn't expecting you to answer in my talk page! I'll copy your answer in your talk page and continue there the discussion, for I don't think you read mine as often as yours. ;) --Fibonacci 00:37, 22 Dec 2004

(UTC) Dear Fibo: Hi! First of all, let me welcome tyou to Latin America. I hope you enjoy Colombia, although I imagine you must miss Europe. Here in the United States (just a few hours away from Lat. Am.) I miss Latin America so I imagine you miss Italy.

As far as Latin America I have only gone to Puerto Rico (obviously, I was born there, :) ) the Dominican Republic and Mexico. But, when I went to Mexico, while my friends were drinking beers, I was going through a nostalgic trip because I was back where my roots were founded at (Latin America). I have never been to Colombia personally but I love my fellow Latin Americans and what goes on in Colombia worries me a lot.

Milan is a beautiful city as well, the city of fashion modeling. And I must congratulate you for being an Italian also. I know Italians are as proud of their heritage as us Latinos are. Much brotherly love to the paisanos from here!!

About Melendez, well, that was done about two weeks ago so I dont exactly remember the website, but I did find out hes Colombian somewhere. Otherwise I wouldnt have written it there because, well you know, like all Wikipedians, I want this encyclopedia to be taken seriously by newcomers and for them to see that we are "da place", as they say in the States urban talk :)

By the way, Im a protrstant Christian, newborn at the age of 14. But I thank God that youre a Christian too. Catholic, protestant......we all love the same God. One of my dreams is to see all churches united into one church only someday. I thank God that your soul is His.

Well, amigo I have to go. Thanks and God bless you! Hope to hear from you soon!

Sincerely yours, "Antonio Latino Puro Martin" 10:20, Dec 21, 2004 (MST) (PS: Since I like all commercial aviation topics, how about that Avianca, ah? I think they're awesome...:) )

Response to Invitation (in Spanish)

 * Hola, gracias por la información...yo no había oído nada al respecto de esa invitación, pero ojalá que se concrete algo y se pueda realizar tal reunión, sería interesante. Por otro lado, quizás el hablar por e-mail de éstos asuntos (relacionados con Wikipedia, etc.) también sería útil, (por las posibles diferencias en horarios de trabajo o estudio, etc.) en mi opinión... Juancarlos2004 05:13, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Separation axioms
Hi Fibonacci. I notice you uploaded Image:RegularSpace.png and Image:NormalSpace.png. Perhaps you could put those at the Commons? See Topology, where the same two GIF files need to be replaced. (While you're at it, perhaps you could fix the CamelCase titles? "Normal space.png" and "Regular space.png" are a little nicer.)  dbenbenn | talk 05:58, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Hello. Sorry, I currently have an account only on the English and Spanish Wikipedias, and on Meta. But okay... I'll create one on Commons and upload, then. I wonder if it's worth creating an account only to upload a couple of files, though... --Fibonacci 06:11, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, it only takes about 5 seconds. I mean, I have an account on the Spanish Wikipedia, and I don't even know Spanish. :)  dbenbenn | talk 06:48, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Oh! Well, in that case... nothing, for I've already uploaded the images. ;) --Fibonacci 07:20, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Los Andes University
There are several Los Andes universities in Colombia, therefore it must be specified the article talks about Los Andes University in Bogotá. Leave it alone. Kapil

There are several Los Andes universities in Colombia, therefore it must be specified the article talks about Los Andes University in Bogotá.


 * How do you know that? I live here, and I've heard of only one Universidad de Los Andes.

Leave it alone.


 * You leave it alone.

Kapil


 * --Fibonacci 00:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Universidad de los Andes
I study at the Universidad de los Andes, you moronic cuntsucker. Leave it the fuck alone. There's Universidad de los Andes everywhere. Kapil

I study at the Universidad de los Andes,


 * Me too.

you moronic cuntsucker.


 * Oh, how kind of you!

Leave it the fuck alone.


 * Why the aggressive tone?

There's Universidad de los Andes everywhere.


 * Yes, there's one in Chile to. But Chile is not in Colombia.

Kapil


 * --Fibonacci 01:07, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Universidad de los andes
You're right, there's only one in Colombia. I thought there was one in Cali but I was mistaken. Please accept my apologies, especially for calling you a cuntsucker. Kapil

You're right, there's only one in Colombia.


 * Told ya! ;)

I thought there was one in Cali but I was mistaken.


 * Why did you think so?

Please accept my apologies, especially for calling you a cuntsucker.


 * Apologies accepted. In the future, please remember to stay cool and don't mount personal attacks.


 * Where do you study, by the way? In the same Uniandes I do?

Kapil


 * --Fibonacci 01:18, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * La mismísima Universidad de los Andes en Bogotá. Pensé que había una en Cali porque hay en México, Venezuela y Chile, y creo que más en Latinoamerica, entonces pensé que también habría más en Colombia, por eso la moví en primer lugar. Qué pena de nuevo por los insultos. Kapil


 * ¿En Méjico? Esa no me la sabía... en cuanto a las otras de Colombia, pues a mí me pareció que si habría otras que se llamaran igual en el país, debían ser de la misma gente (compare con la Nacho). A diferencia de la página de la Nacho, la página de Los Andes no menciona otras sedes en el país. El argumento definitivo es una búsqueda en Google.
 * Uy jueputa, encontré a otro wikipedista en Colombia... si le parece, encontrémonos un día de éstos en Los Andes.


 * Y no se preocupe más por los insultos. --Fibonacci 01:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Claro, cuando quiera, dígame dónde en Los Andes y nos vemos ahí. Kapil

Reunión
Quihubo, no creo que el Sábado esté en Bogotá, en todo caso le hago saber esta semana. Kapil 17:46, 31 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Recuerde, no es conmigo sino con Escalda (me acabo de enterar de que tenía página en la Wiki inglesa también), que es el que la está organizando. Suéter pues. --Fibonacci 00:20, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Quihubo Fibonacci. Yo creo que el próximo Sábado tal vez podría estar disponible para ir a la reunión, me toca confirmarle esta semana. Sería como interesante ver al resto de los Wikipedistas. Kapil 06:07, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Lo mismo, hombre. Ojalá pueda ir, la reunión anterior fue un fracaso rotundo; sólo fuimos Oscarín y yo. Y a ver si finalmente conozco al otro uniandino... --Fibonacci 06:47, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

biography.ms
Hi Fibonacci, Did you receive any reply from the email you sent these people regarding their non-compliance with the GDFL? This site is starting to rank very high on Google searches, and people are still tagging Wikipedia articles as copyvios based on this site not crediting us. I'm wondering what more we can do.--Duk 15:19, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * No answer yet - I'm starting to suspect the didn't even read my message. I don't want to wait for this problem to be magically solved, but I don't know what more to do. If there is something more I can do to help (to take this site down - it seems the only possible solution), please tell me - I'll be more than happy to help! --Fibonacci 02:53, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Club de wikipédicos colombianos...
Hola, Fibonacci!!!

Qué tal si armamos un grupo de wikipédicos colombianos para colaborarnos en la redacción de artículos acerca de Colombia en las enciclopedias en inglés y español???

Por cierto, soy barranquillero pero vivo en Saint Louis, Missouri, Estados Unidos.

Gracias por tu atención Caleiva 05:05, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Me parece perfecto. Ya estamos tratando de hacer algo así con los chibch colombianos de la Wiki en español. Diga qué me toca hacer entonces. Y no se le olvide incluirse en esta lista. --Fibonacci 23:42, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Pues básicamente tendríamos que buscar más colombianos en la enciclopedia inglesa (yo aún no estoy registrado en la enciclopedia española, pero lo voy a hacer pronto), y comenzar a buscar artículos que sean esbozos (stubs) para completarlos colaborativamente, y si es caso, hacerlos de cero.
 * Espero que te guste la idea, y nos hablamos pronto. Caleiva 17:54, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Al menos tenemos ya localizados a los que están en la lista que le mostré. Los otros editan más que todo en la española, así que nos toca sólo a nosotros dos, y a los de la lista que se le midan a colaborar. Yo me le mido. --Fibonacci 02:25, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

El Viajero Paisa dice: Hola Fibonacci, gracias por invitarme al grupo de wikipédicos colombianos. Ya me agregué a la lista. Soy misionero y periodista independiente. Acabo de terminar estudios en Israel y este año regreso a Camboya. Con mucho gusto de usted y de todos los compatriotas y amigos de Colombia. Elviajeropaisa 04:28, 15 Jul 2005 (-07)

El Viajero Paisa dice: Hello Fibonacci, thanks for your welcome to Colombians... Yes, Im a Catholic missionary for Cambodia. I will see the page about religion, although I prefer subjects such cultures, languages and history. Elviajeropaisa 11:37, 03 Augt. 2005

Fibo: Ya me registré en el wiki en español... qué tal si ahora practicamos un poco??? Qué tal si empezamos con un artículo acerca de Aviatur en inglés y español, por ejemplo??? Caleiva 23:17, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Hhk22.gif
You mind telling me why you are going to delete that picture without an explanation? --Arbiteroftruth 03:36, 2 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Because it has been replaced with a PNG version, as is clearly stated in the page Images and media for deletion. --Fibonacci 05:58, 2 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Didn't catch it at first. I apologize for my lack of respect. --Arbiteroftruth 21:43, 2 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Apologies accepted. --Fibonacci 00:08, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

WikiProyecto y Wikiportal
Bien ya podemos ver los wikiproyecto y wikiportal de Colombia en esta wiki:
 * Portal Colombia
 * Proyecto Colombia - para mantener el portal y las páginas sobre colombia
 * Proyecto Departamentos de Colombia - para estandarizar las páginas de departamentos, municipios y ciudades
 * Proyecto Presidents de Colombia - para estandarizar las biografías de presidentes

Estos portales y proyectos están también en la wikipedia en español (pueden seguir los interwikis).

— Carlos Th (talk) 11:40, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Editing User pages
I just noticed you edited my user page. It is (sfaiaa and certainly standard practice) that one *never* edits the user page of another user. Should you wish to draw something to their attention - such as a changed link (in your view; they may have reasons to use a different alternative) - then the user's Talk page is the appropriate route for you to take. I trust I won't have to note your faux pas elsewhere. --Vamp:Willow 00:48, 6 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I was not aware of that. --Fibonacci 00:53, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Oh bugger off, you pedant. I improved it and didn't change the meaning. The user should thank me.

Tony 04:46, 6 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the insults. VampWillow's point is clear now. --Fibonacci 05:53, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

My comment applies to you too, then. And if this Vamp person expects cooperation, s/he needs to learn politeness; I found it all aggressive. Tony 06:36, 8 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Oh! There was a misunderstanding - I thought your comment was directed to me at first. Sorry. --Fibonacci 07:03, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Hello
Thanks for joining WikiProject Latin America countries. Unfortunately, I cannot contribute for some time because of my examinations.--Youssef 10:28, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Image speedy deletion
Hi again Fibonacci. Great work converting GIFs to PNG! Instead of listing the GIFs on WP:IFD, it might be easier to simply tag them for speedy deletion. Just use. Cheers, dbenbenn | talk 20:21, 9 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Oh! I didn't know images could be also tagged for speedy deletion... thanks for telling me, and for your message. --Fibonacci 01:34, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Image:Adrienne Clarkson coa.png
I uploaded Image:Arms of Adrienne Clarkson.jpg instead. --Mb1000 15:41, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Image speedy deletion (again)
Hello again, Dbenbenn. Heeding your advice, I listed my GIF to PNG conversions in WP:SD. But I recently found the following at WP:IFD:


 * Image:Ca-1957.gif. Fibonacci had listed for Speedy deletion as a redundant image. Does not meet criteria because the image indicated as the copy is a PNG file (thus not redundant).  The image in question, however, is identical to said indicated "copy", and it's not been used in any article.  Redux 16:57, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Does it mean that WP:SD is not the right place to list them, either? Where is it, then? Thanks for your time. --Fibonacci 20:23, 14 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, it did get speedy deleted. And I'm pretty sure Redux was simply wrong.  Criteria for speedy deletion, point 1., says
 * An image which is a redundant (all pixels the same or scaled-down)
 * A PNG version of a GIF image definitely has all pixels the same.


 * By the way, I don't think you have to list anything at WP:SD. The whole point of speedy deletion is that it only takes 1 edit: you apply the deletion tag, and you're done.  dbenbenn | talk 23:10, 14 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Okay... so how are the admins notified that there is an image tagged as redundant? And what is the Requested pages section of WP:SD for, if it's not needed anyway?


 * Thanks again for your time. --Fibonacci 23:29, 14 August 2005 (UTC)


 * People look in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion from time to time and clear it out. I think the "Requested pages" section of WP:SD is a holdover from before categories existed.  (A vestigial section, like the appendix.)  dbenbenn | talk 01:50, 15 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Okay, thank you, it is clear now. --Fibonacci 05:04, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

WikiFun
Although you got 17 and 20 correct, those questions have been already answered. It should interest you to try to answer question 7. The remaining questions for this incredibly long round are 1, 7, and 29. If you truly look at question 7, you might figure out something about it that truly honors something that you use on the Wikipedia. --AllyUnion (talk) 07:32, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

User categorisation
You were listed on the Wikipedians/Italy page as living in or being associated with Italy. As part of the User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians in Italy for instructions. --Army1987 17:52, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Image:Garavito crater.jpeg
''Hi. This image is currently tagged as nosource which means that it is likely to be deleted in the near future. To avoid this, I strongly recommend that you add one of the tags from Copyright tags with an appropriate explanation. If you don't understand this, please drop a note on my talk page. Bovlb 20:00, 19 September 2005 (UTC)''


 * Hello. I copied that image from es:, but it seems like the original file was deleted, and I don't remember who uploaded it (otherwise I would ask them). Please note that Fair Use images are not allowed on es: anymore, so this could have been the reason for its deletion.
 * So... how should I tag the image? --Fibonacci 22:08, 19 September 2005 (UTC)


 * My Spanish is non-existent, but I can't seem to find any trace of that image ever existing on es:. Maybe it got deleted before MediaWiki 1.5 introduced deletion histories.


 * Its original name was "juliog1.jpg". Although my Spanish is fluent, I don't know where are the deletion logs stored on es: - I don't even know where is the "images for deletion" page, and I don't think it's the same page where articles are listed for deletion (hey, I've never needed to list one for deletion...).


 * I'm afraid that Fair Use images are getting less and less tolerance here as well, especially unsourced ones. If you did not create the image yourself, and you cannot find the original source, then I don't think there's anything you can tag it with that will save it.  Sorry.  I suggest you try finding a NASA source for this or a replacement image, as we can use them.  Bovlb 22:34, 19 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Okay, so be it. But I don't know how can I find sources for this - could you please help me? As for the replacement image, I already googled for "Garavito crater" and found only images identical to this. --Fibonacci 03:36, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
 * This page (translation) shows the image, and cites the International Astronomical Union, but there the trail goes cold unless we contact them. I can't find anything else very specific, but there are various US government sites that give pictures of the moon that I believe we can use.  I'm sure that the Garavito crater appears in at least one of these images, but I can't identify it offhand.  It's a smaller crater on the farside, so I guess people don't talk about it very much.  I'm sorry I can't be more helpful. Bovlb 04:21, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Image conversions!
Greetings! I hope you're well. Thank you for converting (to PNG, et al.) numerous images (of flags, etc.) I've created. I have the ability to do all of this; initially, I did not out of being a novice, out of a desire to not go through the effort of changing every link/reference under the sun to an particular image, or just for expediency. Ack! If I erred, I apologise.

In any event, let me know if there are images – or a list of 'em – I can help convert, or can be otherwise helpful. Take care! E Pluribus Anthony 19:43, 1 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, I have converted all of them (or so I think!), and I'm uploading them gradually. Thanks for your help offering anyway. --Fibonacci 19:46, 1 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Great! The offer was a general one (i.e., for images other than ones I've created, as well); there are also numerous instances when precisely the same image is in different/multiple formats (JPG and PNG).  Anyhow, let me know; thanks again!  E Pluribus Anthony 19:50, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Re:User pages
My user page is open to anyone to improve =) I'm more lax than some people (who seem too tight about things). As long as you aren't adding flacid penis images, you are free to do what you will to my user page =) Regards and cheers!  Sasquatch  t|c 21:58, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Kill Bill
Hello, Why have you changed the spelling of Hanzo to Hanzō? Gillean666 08:17, 5 October 2005 (UTC)


 * See Manual of Style (Japan-related articles). --Fibonacci 08:29, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Featured article candidacy for an Hugo Chavez subarticle
I noticed you have listed yourself in Category:Leftist Wikipedians. That said, you will probably be interested in an Hugo Chávez Featured Article Candidacy (FAC). Chavez himself happens to be a socialist politician. As usual, please use your own higher judgment in deciding how to vote on this FAC, if you should decide to devote a few seconds to the matter. Regards, ← S ARAVASK &mdash;  01:52, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Signed measure
Replied on its talk. :) Gosh Fibonacci, you are quick to assume the worst. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:47, 6 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Which has saved my neck more than once. ^^U --Fibonacci 03:49, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Jesus
Check out the Jesus article and edit it to keep it focused on Jesus and a biographical account of Him. Watch the Jesus page to keep it focused on Him. Thank you. Scifiintel 21:52, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Springer
OK, look at this. Basically the book cover says Birkhauser, but google writes below that it is Spriner. Who the heck knows what is going on.

If you have a comment, you can reply here, to keep all conversation in one place. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 05:07, 7 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I hope you come and check this page for replies, then...


 * Well, I'm positive it's not Springer, for it is not mentioned anywhere in the book. It's Birkhäuser. Perhaps the guys at Google made a mistake while writing that page?


 * On the other hand, I'm not familiar with how to quote books (which I must learn to, lest my thesis be considered plagiarism... *AHEM*). Do you put the first year in which that edition was printed, regardless of reprintings? Or the year in which the exact copy you're holding in your hands right now was printed?


 * Thank you for your help. --Fibonacci 05:16, 7 December 2005 (UTC)


 * PS: I recently created the article Hahn decomposition theorem. Please read it and check for clarity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fibonacci (talk • contribs)


 * There is a style tip somewhere about how to format references.See maybe Cite sources at the bottom, or some links from there.


 * I will try to take one more look at Hahn decomposition theorem. From what I saw so far yesterday, it looks good.


 * I think you are right about Springer. The google guys screwed it up. Or maybe Birkhauser is part of Springer? Who cares! Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:26, 7 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your reply. I'll read that page - when I have time. :P
 * Birkhäuser is a part of Springer? Well, I don't think so. Amazon.com lists Cohn's book as published by Birkhäuser (though they spelt it without the umlaut), and this other book as published by Springer. So... maybe the guys at Google did screw it up. --Fibonacci 22:49, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

No inline TeX?
Hi Fibonacci. Where did you dig that rule that there must be no inline TeX? The math style manual says that inline PNG is bad. Inline TeX as long as it generates to html is acceptable I think. No? You can reply here. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:04, 8 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Inline TeX that generates to HTML is acceptable, you're right. But whether a certain TeX formula is rendered as PNG or HTML depends on the user preferences (unless it's really, really simple). So inline TeX should be avoided. This is, of course, NOT an official policy of Wikipedia, but my own logical conclusion, so I think it's better that way. Don't you agree? --Fibonacci 03:21, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Deletion of 'left wing wikipedians' category
Hi. I saw you're (like me) listed in this category which is up for deletion. Hoped you'd like to vote in favor of keeping it... Thanks! Larix 02:39, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for voting! Larix 16:00, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

User:Fibonacci/Uploads
Hi, please turn this gallery (or at least all the fair use images on it) into a list of links instead or something like that as soon as possible. Wikipedia policy doesn't allow fair use images to be displayed in userspace (see Fair use), and acording to this report you have 35 of them on that page. I'm working pretty much at random off that list, so don't feel singled out if others on the list with more images have not yet been notified. Eventualy I'll get around to them all (though hopefully I'm not the only one working on it). Thanks in advance. --Sherool (talk) 19:28, 30 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Could you please tell me which of the images I have in my upload gallery are fair use, so that I can remove those and only those?
 * Thanks in advance, --Fibonacci 04:29, 31 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid not. Logos, comics and game stuff are most likely fair use, but I'm afraid I don't have an exhaustive list. The biggest bulk is probably the coats of arms though. That's an "icky" category of images. The &#123;{coatofarms}} tag is counted as a fair use tag, but all it rely says is that the image might or might not be usable. I never know quite what to do with those myself. Anyway, sorry I don't have a list of wich ones are fair use and not, so I'm afraid you just have to check them all and see what kind of license tag they use, unless you can convince someone with a bot to make a list for you. It's not something that absolutely must be fixed tomorow (just as soon as possible), so if you need a few days to go though them all that's ok by me, just as long as it's beeing worked on. --Sherool (talk) 05:04, 31 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I'm busy with the university. Maybe tomorrow, or the day after, I'll work on it. While that happens, could you at least tell me who can I ask to do this job for me?
 * Thanks again, --Fibonacci 05:41, 31 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh right, sorry. Well I know Interiot and Gmaxwell both have access to the database from the toolserver, so either of them should be eable to whip up a script to give you a list of the ones that are fair use if you ask them nicely to help you find out wich of the many images on that page are fair use, if they have the time. --Sherool (talk) 16:12, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

From Oscarín
Hellow Fibonacci, How are you?. Bien aquí te mando tarea de Dinamo Anime Manga International Cultural Group y es que me especifiques y expongas al grupo sobre el tema de Software Libre (Free Software) para hacerlo con la futura página del grupo, así como de los Furry, para tertulia.

Y para acabar con la vaina visita las paginas:


 * Oscarinorbitus blog que dan los polémicos temas de Cartoons controversial (pelea mundial por una viñeta), Falta de Garantias en Wikinews (con Julián ya no habrá paz sino guerra todo el tiempo) y el Año del Perro.
 * Dinamo Anime Manga Blog

Mira a ver si viene a la reunión. Saludos. Bye and Good Luck! --Oscarín Aino 19:39, 8 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi, Fibonacci. Ya se leería los blogs (el de Oscarinorbitus lo actualicé hoy sobre el Journalist day). Bien, lo de Software Libre para exponerlo a la reunión de Dinamo son: Conceptos básicos, historia breve, inventor, usos y utilidades, aplicación para página de anime manga y lo demas que proponga ud. si lo desea. ¿ya le llegó carné del grupo? Sino escribale a Adriana Cardona y pidaselo al siguiente mail: azubeny@hotmail.com . Nos Vemos --Oscarín Aino 20:19, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Malu, I love you

Mistaken image notes
Greetings. I noticed that you tagged my series of heraldic images (tinctures) all as being "Now Commons", but I would point out that the images I made are *not* the same images as those on the Commons, merely very similar ones. This is easiest to see when you compare the two versions of purpure, since the shade is different and the lines are rendered differently. I suspect the Commons images are the same as the ones on the French wikipedia instead. --EncycloPetey 00:53, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Please vote on move request
You should vote on your proposed move at Talk:Baitou Mountain. Nominations are not always counted as a vote. LuiKhuntek 22:18, 13 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but I didn't propose that page for moving.


 * Sorry about that. Your tag appeared along with another at the nomination here: Requested_moves. Wasn't sure who owned it... LuiKhuntek 03:01, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Heraldic taints
''I recently added a color infobox to one of the heraldic taints, but later I noticed that you have created images for the tinctures to be used instead. The PNG-images however, are set to be replaced by SVG-images. So I would like to ask you two things:''
 * Were the sources of the tincture PNGs in vector form? Can you upload them as SVGs?


 * No, sorry. I found them as PNGs. But I could try to make vector versions if you want to. --Fibonacci 09:55, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Can you create SVGs for the taints as well?


 * Which ones? --Fibonacci 09:55, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

''If you don't have vector forms available, I might draw SVGs themselves to replace the PNGs, given enough time (I'm kind of busy right now). Shinobu 01:38, 5 March 2006 (UTC)''


 * I could try to, if you are too busy. --Fibonacci 09:55, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I found some time.



Do you like it? I could easily upload versions with other colors or hatches. I'll notify you, so you can check the colors, put them in relevant articles, etc. Shinobu 10:33, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it should keep the height:width rate from the original - it looks a bit awkward to me like this. Other than that, I like it. --Fibonacci 03:03, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you're right, I've changed it accordingly. I've uploaded the most common tinctures. I can do more, on request. I've (slightly) changed to colour of one or two to more closely match the description. Good sources for heraldic colours seem hard to find. Also, for tenne, I found several different hatchings. I picked one, hopefully the most common one. I've put them all in Category:Heraldic SVG images. Shinobu 14:19, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Just one last detail: this image should be called "Heraldic Shield Or" instead of gold.
 * And now, since you're done with the tinctures, you could try doing SVG images for the furs also... ;) --Fibonacci 15:51, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

As mentioned on the talk page of the Or image, I accidentally uploaded it to that location - I haven't moved it yet because I don't know how :-(
 * Re-uploading it to the new location. --Fibonacci 17:23, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

As for the furs, I will do those later. Do we need split colour-b/w versions for the furs too? Shinobu 16:03, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
 * No, I don't think so - there aren't split versions in Ermine for example. --Fibonacci 17:23, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The furs (erines and vairs) typically don't use tricking except to show the dot pattern for Or and the stripe pattern for azure. Out of curiosity, why the need to replace all the PNG images with SVG versions? If I'd known this was going to happen, I would have simply made the images as SVG in the first place. I do notice that the SVG files are larger, so what is the rationale for the change? --EncycloPetey 09:57, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * (replied on your talk page) Shinobu 10:38, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, and before I forget (yet again): could you please upload them on Commons, so that they are accessible from all projects? --Fibonacci 17:26, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Commons. Right. Will do. Should've thought of that myself. I'll notify you of new additions. Shinobu 17:31, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Rock nacional
He there. 'm not sure why you deleted the Rock nacional reference in the Argentine rock article, nor proposed to delet the redirect. Is it because the same might mean different things in different countries? The truth is that 'rock nacional' is a phrase very used in Argentina to refer to the Argentine rock. If, the same expression is used in other countries for their own rock, perhaps a disambiguation page would be wiser than not having a Rock Nacional article. On the other hand, if the term is not used elsewere, then I don't see why the redirection must be removed. Good wiking, Mariano (t/c) 08:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

He there.
 * Hello.

'm not sure why you deleted the Rock nacional reference in the Argentine rock article, nor proposed to delet the redirect. Is it because the same might mean different things in different countries? The truth is that 'rock nacional' is a phrase very used in Argentina to refer to the Argentine rock.
 * It is also very used in Colombia to refer to the Colombian rock, in Chile to refer to the Chilean rock, in Peru to refer to the Peruvian rock, in Mexico to refer to the Mexican rock, and in Spain to refer to the Spanish rock.

If, the same expression is used in other countries for their own rock, perhaps a disambiguation page would be wiser than not having a Rock Nacional article.
 * Should we have a disambig page in national rock too, pointing to American, British, Australian, Canadian, New Zealander (etc) rock?

On the other hand, if the term is not used elsewere, then I don't see why the redirection must be removed.
 * It certainly is used.

Good wiking, Mariano (t/c) 08:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you, --Fibonacci 02:32, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Heraldic gradients
Hello.

I've recently noticed, on closer examination, that your images for both heraldic metals (Or and Argent) have a gradient, instead of a solid colour, on the left side. Why is that? --Fibonacci 19:40, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I have gradiented the metals to, kind of, show their "metalness". Originally or for example was meant to signify "gold", as in the metal, but in representations on paper for practical reasons often yellow was used, or even gold leaf if the money was available... On a computer screen, the best I felt I could do to make it a bit more, erm, metallic-like, was to add a subtle gradient.
 * Erm... well, maybe they were strictly metals back then, but they are currently used to represent just solid colours. I haven't seen many COAs where Or is rendered as actual gold or Argent as actual silver lately. And even ig they were, I don't think the gradient conveys the metallic quality of the tinctures properly. --Fibonacci 21:48, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I will try to get the cleaned up versions online next week or so, but I'm kind of busy, so I can't do that now. They will look the same, but the source will have been modified to make it easier to reuse stuff in other images. Shinobu 21:32, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 * And... they will be uploaded to Commons, right? ^^U If you're busy, I can do it for you and upload them there (well, I have work to do too, but I'm more... erm... irresponsible :P). --Fibonacci 21:48, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I strongly doubt that you are more irresponsible than I :-) About the metals: at least around here they are still considered metals. In German for example, where the German words for the colours are commonly used (Rot etc.) the metals are indicated by the name of the metal (Gold etc.). Also I've seen pictures of heraldic shields where a metal effect was being simulated using light and dark shiny bits. (The official image of the shield of the Dutch municipality Noordenveld for instance.) But if you think that my way of representing that sucks, I'm open to comments. I've also seen silver represented by (sometimes gradiented) grey - presumably like the metal of an unpainted shield. Shinobu 23:01, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * So, you think I'm not that irresponsible? Well... would the fact that I uploaded to Commons simplified versions of all your heraldic tinctures while I should have been doing homework be proof enough? :P (yes, I did, and my homework is due this thursday...)
 * As for the metals, in Spanish they are also indicated by the name of the metal (oro / plata), but rendered as solid yellow / white. An example is the coat of arms of Colombia. --Fibonacci 04:47, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Although in the image of the COA of Colombia the argent background is distinctly metallic.
 * That's because it's not Argent, but platinum. But the two cornucopias are Or. --Fibonacci 22:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * On another note, I have moved some bits of the SVGs to the defs section, which cleans up the files considerably. I have kept most of your simplifications, but I've renamed some elements (partly because I had already done some of the moving things to the defs section before I knew of your simplifications).
 * Was it really necessary? Since each path is used only once, there's no need to put them in defs. The border around the monochrome filling is also unnecessary, since there is a border around the whole image already. --Fibonacci 22:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, and the tenné image, according to the hatching is for brown/brunatre, what he calls marron - so I thought, darken it up a bit and it's a perfect brunatre image. Downside is that we can now safely say that we need a new tenné image.
 * According to that same page, tenné = orange; can it really be trusted? --Fibonacci 22:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I now also have a file that contains all definitions, that is hatchings and shield shape at the moment, but that could contain the furs as well. Shall I upload it? Shinobu 05:01, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The raw file? I don't think it is necessary. --Fibonacci 22:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Finished. They contain your simplifications, some standardization between the images, and a simplification of mine. Unfortunately I noticed too late that you had also removed the gradients and the white space (did you use a special tool for this?).
 * Yes, an ASCII editor . --Fibonacci 22:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The white space is a minor matter (what you lose in filesize you gain in readability) but the gradients should either be removed or possibly be replaced by something more metallic.
 * Workin' on it. --Fibonacci 22:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I haven't uploaded brunatre and tenne yet, because of worries about tricking. Shinobu 05:53, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Of... what, excuse me? --Fibonacci 22:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Update: I've uploaded Or and Argent shields without gradients. --Fibonacci 23:09, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * An ASCII editor, eh? Well, I guess nobody will shoot us if we decide to leave the white space in. About my tricking worries, I still don't feel sure we have got the right tricking (or hatching if you like that term better) for brunatre and tenne. We could just copy the way that website does it - they seem to have a paper source, after all.
 * I noticed that the hatching for Tenné which is shown at FOTW is strikingly similar to the hatching you did for Orange. --Fibonacci 01:17, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 * On another note, how do you like these:
 * [[Image:Heraldic Shield Vair.svg]] [[Image:Heraldic Shield Vairy or and gules.svg]]
 * I like them. Just wait 'til I simplify them too ;) --Fibonacci 01:17, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 * So the furs aren't that tough. I start liking SVG better and better. Did you merge the old or/argent with the new ones, or just reupload the old ones? I doesn't matter much for presentation, but I like to keep files consistent. Minor matter, low priority. Shinobu 00:36, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I reverted the Argent shield, and changed the shade of yellow for Or. Nothing more.
 * On a side note, I noticed you changed the patterns I had for the tinctures - the black strips in Gules seem to be as wide as the white spaces between them, for example. Why was that? --Fibonacci 01:17, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think there is much that can be usufully simpified on them, since I noted your previous simplifications and used them directly this time. Stripping white space is a task that should be left to a tool, I think.
 * Oh, I used a tool - another plaintext editor  --Fibonacci 02:34, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
 * As for the strips: the width of a black stripe was drawn to be a third of the width of the white space in between, or a quarter of the repetition interval. If the stripes appear wider, there is the possibility that your monitor broadens vertical black lines (my old CRT did that too) or that you have somehow rigged MediaWiki to show the SVGs with a plugin (I don't know if that's even possible) and the plugin doesn't render it correctly.
 * [[Image:Heraldic Shield Gules.svg]] [[Image:Heraldic Shield Gules.svg|108px]] [[Image:Heraldic Shield Gules.svg|216px]]

If the larger versions look better, your monitor is the problem. Don't worry, it will look okay when printed. Otherwise something else is wrong. Upload a screen shot indicating the problem if necessary. Shinobu 01:31, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, don't worry - I had looked at the source code, and interpreted it wrongly. They do look normal, but more widely spaced than the ones I had done (and this time I'm sure :P). The pattern code is hard to figure out, since you did two patterns (one inside the other), with three consecutive unnecessary horizontal translations. Why was that? --Fibonacci 02:34, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

@Was it really necessary?: That depends on your goals. The nice thing is that it is now possible to quickly copy definitions around between SVGs. For instance, when making the fur SVGs I instanciated the paths common to both of them. Not doing it this way will save the size of a but we will lose important semantic information in the process. As for the central line dividing the shield in a left and right part, I just like it better that way, especially when zoomed in. Shinobu 01:46, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Still, the original PNG images didn't have those lines. If the intent was to replace the PNG shields with SVG versions, the line should be left out.
 * And... sorry, I'm not fully following you. What "important semantic information" would we lose by moving the paths down from defs? --Fibonacci 02:34, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Latin American National Anthems
I have reverted your move for the Colombian National Anthem. The fact is that ¡Oh, gloria inmarcesible! is not the official name, nor a commonly used name in Colombia for our national anthem. Last year there was a discussion on Spanish language Wikipedia about the fact that most Latin American National Anthems had as names in Wikipedia the first verse, which is incorrect for most of the anthems. If we need to uniform the list of national anthems we should get the official or most commonly known name which would mostly be "National Anthem of  ".

If the Colombian National Anthem would have a name, this should be the name of the original poem by Núñez which would be something like Oda a Cartagena IIRC.

— Carlos Th (talk) 17:20, 21 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Still, the vast majority of the national anthems on this category have as names the first verse. If you think it's incorrect, then you should move all of those anthems too. --Fibonacci 01:07, 22 March 2006 (UTC)


 * A vast majority but not all of them:
 * Argentine National Anthem
 * Anthem of Transnistria
 * Brazilian national anthem (Hino nacional do Brasil)
 * Himno Nacional de Chile
 * National Anthem of Colombia
 * National Anthem of El Salvador
 * National Anthem of Russia (Гимн России)
 * National anthem of South Vietnam
 * National Anthem of the Republic of China
 * National Anthem of the Republic of Uzbekistan
 * National Anthem of the Soviet Union
 * Also, comparing to eswiki we also have:
 * Himno Nacional Argentino
 * Himno Nacional Brasileño
 * Himno Nacional Mexicano (Mexicanos, al grito de guerra)
 * Himno Nacional Uruguayo (Orientales, la Patria o la tumba)
 * Himno Nacional de Chile
 * Himno nacional de Colombia
 * Himno Nacional de la República de Uzbekistán
 * Himno nacional de Panamá (Himno Istmeño)
 * Himno Nacional del Ecuador (and es:Salve, Oh Patria)
 * Himno Nacional del Perú (Somos libres, seámoslo siempre)
 * Himno de Belice (Land of the Free, this is probably correct in English)
 * Himno de Suiza (Swiss Psalm: Schweizerpsalm, Cantique suisse, Salmo Svizzero)
 * Himno de la Federación Rusa
 * Himno de la Unión Soviética
 * I cannot be sure how many national anthems are incorrectly named. I for sure know that ¡Oh, Gloria inmarcesible! is not the name of the national anthem of Colombia.  So I cannot change all of them: some might be correct.
 * — Carlos Th (talk) 14:11, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Template:User_species
thank you for helping me fix the User_Species template.

Raccoon Fox 22:38, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

More vairs.
Shinobu 03:34, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Orange / tenne
Whether orange is considered equal to tenne depends on where you live, apparently. Here it's considered a different colour.
 * With a different hatching, of course. --Fibonacci 02:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

As for the hatching, tenne ( |:| ) was listed as gules ( ||| ) + gold.

I vaguely rember having seen rose as ( ¦¦¦ ) so it makes kind of sense to have orange as ( !¡! ). Although that's probably just a pons asinorum.
 * Wouldn't it make more sense to have orange as gules + gold? --Fibonacci 02:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

It also listed sanguine as being tricked as purpure. I propose we forgo this particular webpage for now, in want of a more comprehensive index. Shinobu 09:38, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree completely. --Fibonacci 02:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

@gules + gold: Yes, but that was already used for tenne. So lighter than tenne, and lighter red, would actually make some twisted kind of sense.
 * Maybe, but would not make orange. --Fibonacci 17:01, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

But note that these are just pontes asinorum anyway - some of the hatchings don't make any sense no matter what way you look at it. Shinobu 09:01, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Now *that* does make much more sense! --Fibonacci 17:01, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: your SVG questions
(I'm splitting the thread because it has become a bit of a mess.)

First of all, the three translations were not strictly necessary. The cause is easy to spot: when drawing the shield, I drew the pattern next to the shield (so I could select and change the pattern without interfering the bits of shield that were already finished) and then I clicked "objects to pattern". That accounts for two translations. They can in principle be done away with. Low priority.

The last one was to line the hatching up in such a way that it looked best. I could have defined the pattern in a translated way, but that would have been much more messy. Also, I wanted a logical origin in the pattern.
 * So I'm allowed to cut them off, right? ;) --Fibonacci 17:01, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

As for the important semantic information, what I mean is that it is now very easy to keep stuff consistent among different files. The impact of moving paths and/or patterns between def-sections and the body is not apparent when looking at just a single file.

However these are not just single files. They all share a common, named defs section. This makes it very easy for software to keep things consistent. So if we change a definition in one file, software can see that this corresponds with a definition in the library and change it there too. Then you can find all images that use that library and change it back.

Always remember that Title contains more information than Title.
 * Because not every HTML file (in fact, almost no HTML file) comes with a defs (or style) section specifying that  is equivalent to  . Even if it comes with one, if there's a lot of files using the same defs, you can put 'em all in a separate CSS file, and change all of your original files to read from that. Not here, for every file comes with its own defs section. --Fibonacci 17:01, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

As for the line between the left and right half, again I just like it better that way. If you think that inhibits the possibility to use them as replacements for the PNGs then by all means remove the "there is a replacement available" tag.
 * Not that it inhibits the possibility, but I think they look better without the central line. Zoom in on the bottom part of the shield, and you'll notice it has become asymmetrical because of the line. --Fibonacci 17:01, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I also made some of the colours a bit livelyer and changed the shape of the field somewhat. And I made the hatching wider (relatively speaking) for clarity.
 * Maybe at that size it is justified, but keep in mind that the shields will never, or almost never, be used that tiny, and at 144px the lines look better if they are closely packed together:
 * [[Image:Heraldic Shield Gules.svg|144px]]

All things I did because it looked nicer or clearer to me. All things that, I think, don't detract from their ability to function as replacements for the PNGs.
 * Okay... but they look better that way, don't you think? --Fibonacci 17:01, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Note: while I realize that it's easy for software to find all SVGs with the Herald-defs on my disk, I realize that this is not that easy on wiki. Perhaps I should create a category to facilitate finding the files involved. Shinobu 08:57, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Good idea! --Fibonacci 17:01, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

@So I'm allowed to cut them off, right?: I suppose, although I recommend keeping the final transformation. Easier maintenance that way.
 * ... excuse me? Wouldn't it be easier without any transformations at all? --Fibonacci 18:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

@Because not every HTML file...: That's not what I meant, and completely irrelevant.
 * But that is why people use  instead of  . Or what did you mean, then? --Fibonacci 18:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

@you'll notice it has become asymmetrical because of the line: no, it hasn't. I zoomed in using three viewers, including the one Wikipedia uses, I zoomed in on those using a magnifier tool, and at all zoom-levels it is pixel-perfect symmetrical.
 * I zoomed in at the base (vertex?) using Inkscape, and the asymmetry is clear. --Fibonacci 18:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

@Maybe at that size it is justified: It's justified at any size, as it's largely the relative size difference that was the issue. Personally I think they are quite okay at 64px (height) and nothing can be gained by enlarging them, but if you do, you might try 128px (wide: 108px): as you can see above, that looks very much okay. For every spacing interval, no matter if it's packed close or not, you can specify the image size in such a way that it doesn't look too good. That was just what you did by specifying 144px as it's size.
 * That's not what I meant. Those shields will be most likely be used at 144px, not 64px. There's no need for enlarging the original images - they aren't SVGs for nothings, are they? But at the size they will most likely be used, they look horrible. -Fibonacci 18:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Shinobu 11:47, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, and sorry for the late reply - I was doing homework (I can't delay it forever, can I? Not that I want to do it, though :P). --Fibonacci 18:35, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

I've been forced to take a short break of wikiing; I think I've got more time now, so I'll get back to you ASAP. Shinobu 00:58, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

ASAP turned out to be a bit later than I hoped. Anyway, here goes:

@Good idea!: I'll look into it.

@Wouldn't it be easier without any transformations at all?: Not necessarily. Suppose you define a certain pattern. Suppose you use it in two places, but you need to nudge it around a bit to avoid clashes with surrounding geometry. Suppose you change the pattern a bit (to be more efficient, render more reliably, etc.). If you have kept the final translation you only need to update one pattern, otherwise you'll need to update two entirely different patterns. Also that way you would lose the semantic information that the patterns are the same.

@But that is why people use  instead of  .: No, not really. It's about abstraction - h1 says heading, p says paragraph. That you can split of your stylesheets is a nice benefit, and would not be possible without it, but it's not the primary reason.

@I zoomed in at the base (vertex?) using Inkscape, and the asymmetry is clear.: I zoomed in both using Wikipedia's rasterizer, Inkscape .43, and Adobe's rasterizer, and as I said, they're all pixel-perfect symmetrical, as they should be.

@most likely be used at 144px: No. Either the image is linked without size specifications at all (as the png's were) and it will end up at it's original size, at which size it of course looks okay, or it will be thumb-ed, and then the size is (and should be) dependent on user preferences (defaults at 180px, I think). If we plan to thumb them, instead of the way we do it now, it may be a good idea to resize them to look as okay as possible at Wikipedia's default thumb sizes - and to give them a bit of padding, so they don't look so constrained in their little boxes.

Shinobu 13:02, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png
Thanks for uploading Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the GFDL-self tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, consider reading fair use, and then use a tag such as or one of the other tags listed at Image copyright tags. See Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other media, consider checking that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Image legality questions page. Thank you. Nv8200p talk 14:19, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey there Fibonacci, yeah I uploaded the origional jpg. The Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.png image as well as the Image:IncandescentLightBulb.png image both came from a website that sold light bulbs. I'm going to have to do some searching on The Wayback Machine to find which site it came from again because I know that they website I took them from began using better, bigger images of light bulbs within weeks of me downloading those two images. The website may have been www.1000bulbs.com. JabberWok 20:21, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I have listed this image at WP:PUI. There is no evidence that the copyright holder allowed release of this image into the public domain. There is a free image available at Image:CompactFluorescentLightBulb.jpg that could be cropped and converted. -Nv8200p talk 19:08, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Rock Nacional
Hello,

Why did you keep the Rock Nacional → Argentine rock redirect, which was nominated for deletion? With two votes for and one against deletion, it should have been deleted. Beardo does not "seem to know what he's talking about", he is clearly speculating. Besides, I know that the term is widely used in many other Spanish-speaking countries to refer to the national rock music/scene - in Colombia, for example. And the redirect on es: was recently deleted for the same reasons I nominated this one. --Fibonacci 19:38, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


 * In that case, the best solution would probably be to [ change it] into an article explaining the meaning of the term, including what you've just told me, or even just a disambiguation page with a bullet list of links to articles about rock music in various Spanish-speaking countries. — Apr. 2, '06 [19:43] <[ freakofnurxture]|[ talk]>


 * Should we also make national rock a disambig page with a bullet list of links to American rock, Australian rock, Canadian rock, Irish rock, Kiwi rock, British rock? If not, why not? --Fibonacci 19:52, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


 * You've stated above that the term "Rock Nacional" is "widely used in many other Spanish-speaking countries". I have no reason to doubt you. I do know that the term "national rock" is not widely used in English-speaking countries. Perhaps it should just be redirected to Latin American music (and add an explanation of the term there instead), or maybe, more broadly, to an article that summarizes rock music by nationality Think about the readers for a bit. If somebody searches for "Rock Nacional" what would be the best possible result? Certainly not a blank screen. — Apr. 2, '06 [20:04] <[ freakofnurxture]|[ talk]>


 * Would a reader search for Rock Nacional in the first place? Maybe on es:, but not here. And even then, I think it's more likely that they will search for the specific nationality. Televisión nacional (Spanish for "national TV") neither redirects anywhere, nor is a disambig page, yet "rock nacional" (I Can't Think Of Any Reasons For Using Uppercase Initial Letters) is an even less likely search query than that. --Fibonacci 20:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

-- Don Quijote&#39;s Sancho 23:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

TWO Questions
Hola Fibo, Le vengo a decir dos cositas:


 * Si esta todavia en Dinamo, Hable con las copresidentes Angela y Julie para lo de la página de Internet de ese grupo con Software Libre. Sobre mi retiro del mismo se lo comento despues.


 * En el Esperanto ¿Hay groserias o madrazos?

Que pena molestarlo, pero ojala le echare una visita a su casa. Nos vemos. --Oscarín Aino 14:44, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

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It wasn't a test, the image needed deleting as does a lot of other trivial crap on the Kill Bill article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.195.241.238 (talk • contribs)
 * Look at the talk page

Greetings and Free Software promotion in Bagatela page
Hola Fibo...: Bueno lo de las dos cuestiones se la dejaré pendiente por ahora, porque necesito que me envie por email todo lo referente sobre software libre (que lo expuso en Dinamo) y su aplicación en Colombia para la página de Bagatela (que la compartimos yo y Juan Carlos Quengúan), y promocionarlo allí (y de consigo se inscribe si le interesa porque la estamos arreglando).--Oscarín Aino 18:51, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Santa Marta
Hello Fibonacci, I am currently working on the page of Santa Marta in spanish, and soon will be doing the same in english, but I'm having a little problem trying to get the coat of arms for the city, and i know yu uploaded it to the site in english, and I just wanted to ask if yu could do the same in the spanish site, unfortunelly i havent found that many helpful people in the spanish site to help me wih the uploading process, and its really frustrating, well thank yu anyway for yur time. mijotoba 13:34, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

About the Furry thing
Hi, I was wondering if you could maybe explain more to me about your use of the term "furry" to describe yourself. I have seen it on wiki a few times, and I clicked on the link on your page, but it went to a disambig page. I'm interested in learning what this means to you, and to other in general. Is it a role-play thing, or do you actually consider yourself a fox (in the same way a transexual actually considers themself a member of the opposite sex, versus a transvestite who merely dresses like a member of the opposite sex)? FYI, there will be no negative judgement on my part either way, I'm really open minded and am merely interested in understanding this more. You can respond here or on my talk page if you'd like. The Ungovernable Force 07:22, 20 May 2006 (UTC)


 * See Furry fandom.
 * As for your question, no, I don't think I'm actually a fox on a human body (though there are others that do think so - I'm only speaking for myself). But, strange as it might sound, I'd like to be one.
 * Please feel free to ask anything you want to on the subject. I realise my answer was an oversimplification, partly because of my English not being yet perfect (though I couldn't put it even in Spanish ^^U), partly because sleep deprivation prevents me from thinking straight (this will hopefully end soon enough). -Fibonacci 09:56, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

RE: Wikipedia Colombia
Muchas gracias por invitarme pero la verdad es que aunque el proyecto me parece bien interesante no creo que tenga mucho tiempo que le pueda dedicar. Estaré monitoreando el progreso del proyecto pero no me suscribo "oficialmente" como miembro. Igual muchas gracias. --– sampi ( talk • contrib • email ) 20:39, 24 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Pues lástima que no se una... pero la invitación es de Carlos, no mía; mejor hable con él. --Fibonacci 21:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!
Many happy returns!

Thistheman 06:11, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Merge-to arrow
Also posted at your commons talk page I would like to use your SVG to replace the old GIF but the background is not transparent. Would it be easy to fix? TIA HAND —Phil | Talk 10:45, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Answered on your Commons talk page. --Fibonacci 20:45, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

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Hello, cioè salve! Visto che hai confidenza con commons, posso chiederti se puoi caricare alcune immagini free use dalla wiki inglese in modo che siano sfruttabili da ogni wiki? Ti faccio un esempio: Oppure mi sai dire un modo per farlo da me? --Fireblues 13:44, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
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 * Provo io, poi casomai ti chiedo, se non riesco! Grazie in anticipo!--Fireblues 11:21, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

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Some one seems to have deleted Image:PACE-flag.svg which I think you uploaded (User:Fibonacci/Uploads). I can't seem to find out how/why it was deleted but I imagine that it might have something todo with the debate on Template talk:Anti-warTasks. If you could re-upload it that would be cool.--JK the unwise 14:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * But I had uploaded my image to Commons, and it seems that it has not been deleted from there. Could it be that a database lag is preventing it from showing properly here? --Fibonacci 16:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * ahh I see, I will put conspiricy theories of stelth deletion aside :-). Its odd though that it still doesn't seem to be coming through? Is anything going on that would increase databace lag at the moment?--JK the unwise 10:05, 16 June 2006 (UTC)


 * It's all right now. Just a matter of [ purging the page cache]. --Fibonacci 20:42, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

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Goosebumps and Fear Street
I added a source to the picture.--CyberGhostface 22:24, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the grammar edit. I'm surprised I didn't catch then when I was writing up the page.--Dleav 01:58, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

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I dont own the copyright, but I could not find the logo anywere, so i created a replica, and if you think i am making a mistake, deleate the stupid logo and forget about it... and this logo is a replica created by me dude. ColBog And you really should follow the rules to man.

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