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 * http://www.researchintelligentdesign.org/wiki/Skeptics

European Scientists

 * European scientists dissent to European Parliament
 * Centre d’Etude et de Prospectives sur la Science (C.E.P). 700 French speaking scientists dissent from Darwin.

European Public

 * 30% of UK Students support Creationism or Intelligent Design the Guardian Aug. 15, 2006
 * ID Media Blitz in the UK
 * Creationists attack secular education in Russia Nature 444, 265, 16 Nov. 2006; "Darwin's controversial hypothesis" Gazeta.ru 27 October 2006
 * Polish Scientists fight Creationism in Poland Nature 2006, Oct. 26, 443, 890-891
 * Poland experiencing an anti-evolution campaign Nature 2006, Oct. 23
 * Anti-evolutionists in Poland, Belgium, France, Germany, Britain, Russia, Italy, and Turkey Nature 2006, Nov. 20

International status
Intelligent design has received little support outside of the U.S.

In the United Kingdom, public education includes Religious Education as a compulsory subject, and many "faith schools" that teach the ethos of particular denominations. When it was revealed that a group called Truth in Science had distributed DVDs produced by the Discovery Institute affiliate Illustra Media featuring Discovery Institute fellows making the case for design in nature, and claimed they were being used by 59 schools, the Department for Education and Skills (DfES) stated that "Neither creationism nor intelligent design are taught as a subject in schools, and are not specified in the science curriculum" (part of the National Curriculum which does not apply to independent schools or to Education in Scotland). The DfES subsequently stated that "Intelligent design is not a recognised scientific theory; therefore, it is not included in the science curriculum... Intelligent design can be explored in religious education as part of developing an understanding of different beliefs. It is up to the local SACREs (standing advisory councils on religious education) to set the syllabus for how this should be done. The department is currently working with the Qualifications and Curriculum Authority to communicate this message to schools." On June 25, 2007, in response to an e-Petition the UK Government made it clear that creationism and intelligent design should not be taught as science, though teachers would be expected to answer pupils' questions about creationism, intelligent design, and other religious beliefs within the standard framework of scientific theories as established bodies of scientific knowledge with extensive supporting evidence used to test hypotheses. Government guidance for schools is to be published.

The status of intelligent design in Australia is somewhat similar to that in the UK, where religious education occurs in public schools. When the Australian Federal Education Minister, Brendan Nelson, raised the notion of intelligent design being taught in science classes, the public outcry caused the minister to quickly concede that the correct forum for intelligent design, if it were to be taught, is in religious or philosophy classes.

Plans by Dutch Education Minister Maria van der Hoeven to "stimulate an academic debate" on the subject in 2005 caused a severe public backlash. After the 2007 elections she was succeeded by Ronald Plasterk, described as a "molecular geneticist, staunch atheist and opponent of intelligent design." While creationism has strong political clout in many Islamic countries, intelligent design has not been adapted to Islam. Muzaffar Iqbal, a notable Muslim in Canada, has signed the Scientific Dissent list of the Discovery Institute. In general, however, Muslim creationists are partnering with the Institute for Creation Research.

Here is an example. Its a paper from Wolf-Ekkehard Loennig, Max-Planck-Institute for Plant Breeding Research, Carl-von-Linné-weg 10, 50829 Cologne, Germany
 * http://www.sensortime.com/loennig-dygmosoic-e.htm
 * http://www.sensortime.com/loennig-dygmosoic-e.pdf
 * Could you find any hint or link on religious implications? --Sensortimecom 16:06, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Claim CI001.4: mentions this 2004 paper, which "refer[s] to arguments and facts supporting the view that irreducible complexity (Behe) in combination with specified complexity (Dembski)" suggesting a link with our DI chums. ... dave souza, talk 17:16, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

The Europeans
Collect here references documenting the European (and Oceanic?) intelligent design movement. Silly rabbit 13:41, 10 July 2007 (UTC)






 * (A Turkey-based European creationism advocate.) Also:   (A controversial book in the European creationism political debate.)


 * (A creationist university in Paris, apparently promoting intelligent design (see this article.) A co-sponsor of Global Perspectives on Science and Spirituality.


 * I guess I must be missing something because those examples do not appear to be neutral about religion. And in addition, they all are allegedly connected with the DI, actually.--Filll 13:55, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah... yes, these aren't neutral about religion. I agree.  I latched on to the claim that intelligent design was disproportionately represented here as an American movement.  Although I think it primarily is an American movement, it can't hurt to include some references about the European counterpart.  So, I'm just collecting a few here for possible discussion.  Silly rabbit 14:00, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I would agree with this, either for this article or a daughter article. At one time I put a few in the external links section but they were removed. They will still be in the history however.--Filll 14:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * FYI: here is where you added them. Silly rabbit 14:19, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Intelligent Design Network Australia
 * Finnish Intelligent Design site
 * Italian Intelligent Design site