User talk:Filmnfan

Blocked as a sockpuppet

 * What's your native language? NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 08:29, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I speak Cantonese and I'm currently based in Europe. Can all my edits and uploads be restored? All those took a lot of time and effort, and it's hugely discouraging to have them all deleted all because I'm suspected of being a "sockpuppet".


 * If you're a new user, how do you know so much about image policy and how to upload files? Not to mention article creation in a very niche area? On top of that, there are these edits one, two, three, of uploading a new poster over an existing one that I uploaded originally. This is exactly the same modus operandi of your name-sake. See also WP:DUCK.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 11:34, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

. Our English proficiency is a clear giveaway. I'm still learning the ropes on Wikipedia, while seeing Film Fan's edits, they are clearly good at rebuffing other users (Lol). As to what user Nardog has posted on Sockpuppet investigations/Film Fan, I can offer my explanations one by one. The similarity in username is a coincidence. I admit I did not put in much thought in creating a username and just came up with one that is common and easy to remember. As to "similar area of edits (particularly uploads of film posters)", if you compare my edits and Film Fan's edits, you can see that our edits are very much different. I spent a lot of effort creating articles and at a quick glance at Film Fan's edits, they don't do that at all. They are fond of edit-warring, but I did not. I hardly interact with other users as I think time is better spent on improving Wikipedia, to make up on areas where the contribution rate is declining. Also it took me a lot of time to figure out how to upload a poster, searching for sources and what not. I had to refer to other film pages to see how users upload new posters and updated posters over those initial teaser posters. If you take a good look, the quality of the posters that I've uploaded are actually pretty sub-par but look okay to average readers. Saying so much, I really do hope all my uploads and edits are restored, as they took me a lot of time and effort, and it has almost escalate to me having a panic attack after seeing most of them speedily deleted. I'm not Film Fan and I have only been quietly contributing to Wikipedia and I hope to continue to do so in the future.Filmnfan (talk)


 * Hello, I noticed you have logged in since my last reply, but have probably missed my reply. I was wrongly accused by a user and it was a great shock to me when I realized I have been blocked indefinitely on here, and even more so when my article creations and poster uploads are all deleted on a whim. I had spent a lot of time to read the guidelines and policies before starting to edit to avoid creating any trouble for other seasoned editors. There wasn't any disagreements with me and other users or conduct issues pertaining to me and suddenly I'm struck with a ban out of nowhere? I didn't even had the chance to counter the doubts which the other users had. Please compare mine and Film Fan's edits again. You'll see we are not related at all. It's completely devastating when all the hard work and time you have put in improving Wikipedia goes down the drain. Out of the 72 pages I've created, 56 are deleted without anyone's consultation and discussion. It's a huge blow to me. Please consider reversing your decision and all is well. I'll not blame anyone for the erroneous block and I'll just continue to do my gnome work here.Filmnfan (talk) 15:23, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * You've got two open unblock requests. An uninvolved administrator will review them.  Try to relax and remember that it's not that big of a deal.  If you're Film Fan, you'll just create a new sock puppet account anyway.  If you're not Film Fan, just give it some time and things will probably work out.  Nothing deleted on Wikipedia is lost forever, and files can be undeleted. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:53, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * A few hours ago, Film Fan sent me two emails stating that they do not sock. What are the chances of them just coming back on the off-chance to send them? I'm happy to send them to any admin who wishes to see them and/or investigate further.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 16:46, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure. I'm game.😏  Dloh Cier   ekim  21:18, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Maybe I got a little worked up because I'm an innocent party, you see. All this mess started just because I chose a username that was similar to a blocked user. How unlucky am I. Anyway, I'll take your advice and step aside from here until everything's clear up. Filmnfan (talk) 01:40, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Duh, Film Fan probably doesn't realize that their emails were ill-intentioned and untimely. It looks like they have been lurking on Wikipedia all this time. I leave it to the admins to compare our editing behavior and arrive at a conclusion. Filmnfan (talk) 01:40, 17 May 2019 (UTC)


 * The evidence, as I see it:
 * Filmnfan and Film Fan have very similar user names. Circumstantial but suspicious.
 * Filmnfan and Film Fan have edited the same articles, occasionally within a day of each other. This is not too surprising, but some of the articles are pretty obscure.
 * Film Fan has added a poster to an article that Filmnfan created within hours. This evidence is a bit stronger, but Film Fan was a prolific uploader of posters.  It could be coincidence.
 * Once Film Fan was no longer available to add posters, Filmnfan began adding posters. Again, it could be coincidence, but it's a bit odd.
 * Film Fan engaged in wikihounding of Lugnuts, mostly by moving pages and unnecessarily re-uploading posters. Filmnfan has continued the poster re-uploading.  Filmnfan has not engaged in any page moving discussions or edit wars, so it could be coincidental.  Lugnuts has crossover with pretty much anyone who edits film articles.  But how many people follow him around and re-upload posters?
 * I know what ISP Film Fan uses, but it's difficult at best to say anything about what Filmnfan uses, since Filmnfan seems to be using open proxies. This is inconclusive but suspicious.
 * If someone wants to unblock, that's fine with me – the evidence is circumstantial. However, there's enough of it to make me suspicious, timed with the emails from Film Fan (yes, I got one, too). NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:40, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

CheckUser block
This is now a CheckUser block. It should not be lifted without consulting me. I can email the evidence to other CheckUsers. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:44, 20 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Could you explain what is the meaning of this?? Why am I still being blocked? Filmnfan (talk) 02:32, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Help required
To anyone out there who can read this, I'm seeking help in acquiring an unblock. About a week ago, I found that I was blocked and can't edit anywhere except on this talkpage. All the articles which I painstakingly created were all deleted as well as a number of posters which I've uploaded. I do not understand what exactly happened. I have been wronged; mistaken for some other blocked user who I do not know at all, and there are users who popped out of nowhere and accusing for me a "sockpuppet". I do not know why the editors and admins on Wikipedia are so hostile to someone who is sincere in contributing to the project. I have volunteered my time and effort on Wikipedia without getting any benefits. I'm not expecting anyone to be appreciative of my contributions, but I was duly shocked when my contributions were deleted within a few clicks by admins.

I was asked to offer my explanations to be unblocked, which I had given above. Lengthy and detailed, which took me some time to write out. Those were precious time which I thought could have been better spent at creating or improving articles. I do not understand why after giving clear-cut explanations, I still being blocked from editing. It hurts that the admins who requested for the explanations to unblock me seem to have gone on to doing other stuff, ignoring my unblock request, while I'm stuck here waiting for a closure. I have been told to be patient but like every other users and admins, I too have commitments offline. This back and forth questioning and replying is tedious. No one likes to be left hanging there. I sound like a broken clock repeating myself again and again for this past week. I do not understand why it is so difficult to unblock me within a few clicks and everyone can move on. The concrete proof is there. I am not the blocked user Film Fan. I do not know where else to seek help since I can't edit anywhere except here. Would someone please help unblocked me and restore my contributions? Filmnfan (talk) 03:04, 21 May 2019 (UTC)


 * You have been blocked based on technical evidence which is non-public. Even if you get an admin with this template (which is for non-administrator help) they will not unblock you. You can appeal your block to or the functionaries mailing list (functionaries-en@lists.wikimedia.org) if you believe the block was based on an incorrect premise, but be advised that abusing the process may result in additional restrictions such as removal of talk page access. Alpha3031 (t • c) 04:06, 21 May 2019 (UTC)