User talk:Finetooth/Archive 6

Reliable sources for weather
Sorry, I virtually never add weather sections. Last month I added a weather table, but I haven't a clue what part of the country it was, and I'm active enough that it would take you all day to find it in my contributions. Perhaps try weather.com? Nyttend (talk) 16:30, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * User:Dtbohrer has an interest in meteorology and may be able to help. Some of the hurricane writers too - perhaps User:Juliancolton (as User:Hurricanehink has retired is back, might work too)? Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:54, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Nyttend's right. The Weather Channel (www.weather.com) is usually a good source. I used Weather Channel data for Erie, PA. Data for Hillsboro would be here. I tried looking around weather.gov (the National Weather Service) and couldn't find anything useful. The Weather Channel should do, unless someone happens to find something better. --​​​​D.B. talk •contribs 18:07, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I just discovered they have weather averages for Penna. state parks, which makes life easier for future articles (and means I have to go back and add data to five FAs). Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 19:59, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the late response, but I would personally have used Oregon Climate Service. Here is a link for temperatures, for example, which shows the mean, max, and minimum for many cities in Oregon, including Hillsboro. The data is from 1971-2000, and it is linked from the Portland, Oregon National Weather Service, so it looks reliable. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 20:15, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I would suggest the individual National Weather Service offices web pages. Most offices keep the official climate databases in the Climate section (link on the left side). 25or6to4 (talk) 12:48, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Hillsboro OR image concern
The image of a sculpture File:HillsboroShuteIndian.JPG in the Hillsboro, Oregon article is almost certainly a sculpture by Peter Wolf Toth (there is one of the Lenape chief "Woapalanee" or "Bald Eagle" in Williamsport, Pennsylvania and two in Akron, Ohio and I recognize his style). I think as such the sculpture is copyrighted and the image needs to acknowledge this and have a fair use rationale. See Cloud Gate and its images. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:25, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Here is a link to 44 of his sculptures, including Chief Kno-Tah (sp?) in Hillsboro, Oregon Ruhrfisch  &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:39, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I went to look at it for the weather table, saw the photo and clicked on it and wrote you the above. Did not read the article to see Toth is in there, which will make Fair Use claims easier. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:30, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I deleted the file here on Wikipedia as it was also on Commons. The version there is better in terms of identifying the artist etc. Glad it is a free image. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:19, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Reliable source for climate data
Glad to see the issue has been worked out. I've used Weatherbase for a few of my geography articles, as it seems to be fairly reliable. TWC is just as good, if not better. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  22:15, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Benjamin Morrell at FAC
Just to let you know I've taken the old rogue to FAC. Thanks for your help in bringing the article on. Brianboulton (talk) 19:26, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

New Netherland
Thanks very much for your concerted work on the article. Have gone thru your suggestions and made some changes, and will look into other things you've brought up. I have two questions regarding editing that you can perhaps help me with. 1. Is there not a program which can be run to RETRIEVE sites mentioned in citations? This inorder to see if link is still viable and to give a date where appropriate?? 2.How does one cross out tasks that have have been completed, such as on your list? Djflem (talk) 11:55, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Map revision
You no doubt remember File:Shackleton Endurance Aurora map2.png, a great map which graces several Shackleton-related articles. I am currently upgrading Aurora's drift, and could use a slightly modified version of this map. Basically, I need the bottom half - everything, in fact, that appears below the word "Antarctica". No red, yellow, green or blue lines as these relate to Endurance. I may then request the odd date added, but would there be a problem in cropping the map in this way? Brianboulton (talk) 13:50, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply, I am most grateful. Yes, it would be a good idea to replace the "Antarctica" label. To save me asking you later to modify the map further, would it be possible to mark a small "X", dated 12 February 1916, on the pink line, at the top of the straight section leading down to Port Chalmers? The map will suit my purposes well, then. Hope this is clear, please ping me if not. Brianboulton (talk) 17:06, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The map is fantastic, thank you for doing this. I should have made it clear that I need the pink line from the original map, the one joining Ross Island and Port Chalmers, if possible exactly as depicted on the original. This line plots the drift and retreat of Aurora. While I think of it, if it's not a problem, the date 6 May 1915 could be inserted at the Ross Island end of the line, to indicate the drift's start. Is that OK? Sorry I wasn't clearer before. Brianboulton (talk) 09:36, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, by all means use arrows to avoid info clutter. And, shame on me, the date 12 February is wrong - should be 16 March 1916. So that needs altering, too (I'm glad I spotted that in time!) Brianboulton (talk) 14:50, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The map is fine now. Later I will install it into its appropriate article, which during the next couple of weeks I will be bringing up toward FA standard, so it should be at PR by the end of the month. I am most grateful for yur help. Brianboulton (talk) 16:24, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Noel Coward
Thanks for your (as usual, excellent) help on Coward. It was promoted to GA-class, but we have been working hard on it and no doubt some sloppiness has crept in. Would you kindly take another look before we nominate it for FA? Thanks for any assistance! -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:25, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Too easy, though!  :-)  -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:31, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Coward has been nominated for FAC. See: Featured article candidates/Noël Coward. -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:12, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your approval on the FAC page. Ssilvers (slacker!) has taken a weekend off, but will be pleased to see your support on his return. Tim riley (talk) 20:53, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Rhyolite
I supported - found one missing access date and a typo I fixed (pesky lower case m in mine again). It is a very interesting and enjoyable read - thanks, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:12, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Glad to support. I think that I did 49 states plus DC - VerruckteDan did Delaware ;-) They are probably my most linked / used contributions to the project (although they are really Census maps I prettied up a bit. Take care, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:22, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Request
I'm not sure how backlogged you are, but when you get a chance I'd like to know if you would be able to do some copyediting on Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. And yes, I can wait. :)  Syn  ergy 12:24, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem at all. Happy reviewing then. :)  Syn  ergy 14:45, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
 C anniba loki  17:03, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Couple things
Hi Finetooth! I just realized, I never responded to the kind message you left me some time ago about Wayne Morse. I appreciate your offer, and I'm sorry for not notifying you when it was up for GA. My time for Wikipedia has become very spotty, so I have spurts of major activity and then barely look at the site for days at a time. It's been a tough adjustment, and my work on articles like that and the Columbia -- and my communication about it -- has suffered. But I appreciate your interest, and I look forward to working on this stuff with you in the future!

The other thing is, I just noticed that the Columbia River Estuary was added as a redlink to lead of the the Oregon Coast article. I really think it would be good to do an article on the entire estuary system at some point; it's pretty far outside my expertise though, so I'd be very interested in your thoughts about how to go about it.

Hope you're well -- I see from a recent note that you're busy off-wiki too. In good ways, I'm hoping! -Pete (talk) 05:04, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Port of Portland (Oregon)
I cropped one of your pics and added it to the above article. Did you happen to have any others from your trip to Kelly Point? Thanks. Aboutmovies (talk) 19:48, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for peer review suggestions on Arbogast & Bastian
Thank you for taking the time to provide peer review suggestions on Arbogast & Bastian. I agree with all of your suggestions, and the recommended changes to the article have been made. Alphageekpa (talk) 15:26, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

invitation
You're invited to sign up as a founding member, at WikiProject Council/Proposals ! :) doncram (talk) 05:31, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Papa Don't Preach
Hi, thanks for reviewing the article, your comments were very helpfull. I did almost everything, except for the Formats and track listing section, I believe there have to be an exception with this, because all the other song's articles bold the formats including the featured ones. For example: "Smells Like Teen Spirit" or "What You Waiting For?".

Also in the Music and lyrics section, I do believe that the key is what makes the song's classical sound, if you see for example "Cool", the tempo is 112 bpm but it is a new wave song. I looked at the reference "Madonna's Drowned Worlds: New Approaches to Her Cultural Transformations" and this is what is in there exactly:

"An unusual choice for a pop song, the tonic key of F minor has a history in classical music of expressing extreme pathos, as in Beethoven's Appassionata sonata, and the key therefore constructs a disjuncture between 'pop' and 'classical' realms, underlined in "Papa Don't Preach" by the instrumentation in the introduction."

Please let me know what you think about it. Again thanks for your review, and sorry for replying too late. Regards. Frcm1988 (talk) 06:11, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ohhh ok, now I understand your point, thanks for your help. Regards. Frcm1988 (talk) 21:43, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Peer review/Islais Creek/archive1
Hi, I am wondering if you could review this for me. I saw your name on Peer review/volunteers. If you are not interested, please reply me anyway so that I know you are uninterested. Thanks in advance for your help and time for reading this.— Chris!  c t 00:28, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Killer Oregon COTW, its Totally Rad
Greetings WikiProject Oregon peoples. It is once again time for another edition of the World Famous Collaboration Of The Week. Thank you to those who worked on Clyde and [the lack of] Religion in Oregon. This week (as many have noticed), we have the “it was a red link” and by request Eugene Station and Heceta Head in honor of the work that’s been going on at Oregon Coast. Once again, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. On a side note, does the recent news of Portland being the unhappiest place in all the land make people there more unhappy? Aboutmovies (talk) 06:53, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, we got some more comments at the FA for Hillsboro, could you double-check my work to make sure I didn't screw up the endash/emdash/hyphen dichotomy. Aboutmovies (talk) 09:55, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Congrats!
Just saw Rhyolite is now FA - well done! I was going to come her to tell you I really like the new Pennsylvania Canal map. I made a map for Cherry Springs State Park - would you mind looking at it? Did I use too many letters? I wonder if labels and arrows would be better. Thanks, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:55, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks - the Cherry Springs article is not ready for PR yet, but I would appreciate it if you tell me what you think of the map. So for now a look at the map would suffice, but in the (hopefully very near) future, the whole article could use a good review. Thanks again, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:21, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, FYI I tried drawing an Astronomy Dome and also tried drawing an Amphitheater, but neither looked very good, so I just went with letters. I usually count the width in pixels of the map and use the Census distance (approximately 1.1 miles here). The DCNR map had an actual scale that the Census scale did not match very well, so I used the DCNR scale to measure the width of the park in feet and then in pixels, then figured out the current scale. This is the first time I have done that - usually just do the Census scale. Ruhrfisch  <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:50, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Glad it was a useful suggestion for the scales. I had previously always used the Census distance, but now realize I could double check with the PA state park map scales. Add it to my to do list. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:41, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Columbia Slough Photo Map
Hey there, as you can see, I've been pretty well checked out of Wikipedia these days -- just too much going on in the old real world. I hope to be back someday in a more sustainable capacity. Sorry to leave you hanging on the Columbia Slough FAC, and I'm glad that the issue with the map is resolved. I think I just used a combination of USGS topo maps, Google maps, and Portland city GIS stuff, but I don't know for sure -- I will definitely be more careful about sourcing map images in the future. Congratulations on the FA status. Working on the photo maps for the amazing creek articles that you edited was one of the most enjoyable things I've done on Wikipedia. Keep it up! I'll try to check my talk page a little more frequently, even if I don't have time for much actual editing. Northwesterner1 (talk) 03:17, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Peer Review of Confirmations of Barack Obama's Cabinet
Hi, you peer reviewed Confirmations of Barack Obama's Cabinet a month or two ago. I've been working on it and put it up for peer review again. If you could, please let me know what you think of the article now. Spinach Monster (talk) 13:24, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'll do my best to learn peer review standards so I can help peer review other articles on my own. Spinach Monster (talk) 00:08, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Forest Park update
Hi Finetooth, I don't know if you watch the tv news (or if you do, which channel), but last night I saw an interview on tv with Peter Rock who wrote a novel based on the father-daughter pair who had been squatting in Forest Park, & whom you mention in Forest Park (Portland). The book is called My Abandonment. (In the interview, Rock said that the novel was "loosely based" on the actual incident.) I figure this is a worthwhile detail to work into this article before you submit it to FA. -- llywrch (talk) 16:23, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Noel Coward
Noel Coward has been promoted to FA. Thank you for all your help along the way. Your efforts have really helped us improve it, and I always appreciate your attention to detail! All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:24, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Rhyolite
Thanks for your hard work. --IvoShandor (talk) 07:20, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, I've seen you about as well. I always had an affinity for both articles, I visited the bridge in 2001, before its destruction, I think that lead photo was one of mine. And I started up the Ghost towns project way back, Rhyolite is one of the more well-known Western ghost towns from my perspective, so I always thought it was important. It was great to see these articles turn into such quality pieces, compared to what they were when I first saw them, again, way back, it's amazing. Keep up the good work, assistance offer goes the same for you. Have a good day. --IvoShandor (talk) 15:15, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I noticed, but since I was stopping by, I thought I would mention both. Dtbohrer got an unexpected surprise too. --IvoShandor (talk) 15:34, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

V is for Victory at the COTW: Brought to you by the Letter W (naming rights still available)
Hear ye, hear ye WikiProject Oregon villagers. Tis time for another edition of ye ol’ Collaboration Of Thine Week. Thank you to those who worked on Eugene Station and Heceta Head the last few weeks, may the Black Death spare ye family. This time we have a we little stub in the John Ross Tower and by request Bill Walton in honor of a pretty good chance at making the playoffs for the Blazers (sorry can’t think of a good Old English type language for that one, but if we go with Olde English 800, then the Jail Blazers could come into play). Anyway, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:10, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

US 41 in MI Peer Review
Thanks for the copy editing! It is much appreciated to have another set of eyes play with the prose. Imzadi1979 (talk) 04:24, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Peer review, Aurora's drift
I have not put this on the backlog, because it has some comment. However, it definitely needs more. If when the backlog is down a bit you could look at it, I'd much appreciate it. Your excellent map enhances the article, of course, but the prose needs more reviewing. I have asked Ruhrfisch to take a look also. Brianboulton (talk) 08:44, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It'll be on PR for a least another week, so no hurry. Brianboulton (talk) 14:44, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Your review is much appreciated. It brought to light a mistake I had made in attributing the Mackintosh photograph. Could I ask you to briefly revist the review and check that all is now well on this front? Brianboulton (talk) 20:32, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Just to say I've taken advantage of a PR lull (no new noms today!) and sent Aurora's drift to FAC. Brianboulton (talk) 23:32, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
For the PR, I'll try and work off of it.  MBisanz  talk 05:29, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Zeus is a really cool dude and he thinks these WP:ORE articles are cool too
Greetings WikiProject Oregon guys and gals. Once again it is time for another edition of the our niche market Collaboration Of The Week. As always, thank you to those who worked on the Ross Tower and Walton. For this week we have the Calapooya Mountains and by request (and in honor of the opening) the venerable Portland Saturday Market. Just remember, if you are feeling blue, try breathing (rimshot please). Once again, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Aboutmovies (talk) 21:44, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Favor
It looks like White Deer Hole Creek may have its day in the sun soon (or at least its day on the Main Page for the idle and idiots to vandalize) - see here. Would you mind looking it over for nitpicks beforehand? I have tried to keep it up to date, but there are probably some MOS issues I just am too familiar with the article to see. If you let me know the problems you find I can fix them too. Thanks in advance, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:17, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks - there is one dead link (although the FAC tool doesn't find it). I am trying to find other sources for that info. There is also one image left justified under a level three header, but I am not moving it unless someone complains. When you are done I think I will have Michael Devore check for typos. I am not overly fond of WP:TFAR but it works better than anything else we have tried (there literally used to be about 200 requests to be WP:TFA at a time)- not sure how Raul does it. Thanks again, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:10, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for the review, I really appreciate it. I think the best thing to do would be to paste it in the article talk page. If you'd prefer I could open a PR or make a subpage of the talk page. Things are starting to green up in PA and I might try and get a picture of Spring Creek and a farm from Pennsylvania Route 44 - the article talks a fair amount about both farms and Spring Creek, but there are not really any good images of either in it. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:12, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again for the review - I addressed all of the points except the dates in refs (will work on those too). I think the Native Paths were cutting off a corner by going west at WDHC - they basically went along one side of a triangle (the valley) as opposed to two (the river north to Muncy, then west to Fort Antes). Culbertson's Path was the one if you wanted to go due north to the Iroquois along the Sheshequin Path. Wallace's book also points out that if you went on the river you had to stop and visit people more often along the way (so it was slower). I like the fact that some of the paths were used by the Underground Railroad too - just saw the documentary recently and added that. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:00, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * WIth an hour to spare, I think all is ready before the article is on the Main Page - I fixed all the dates and added a photo of Spring Creek and a farm. Thanks again so much for your help, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 23:08, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Heh, looks like we were both busy taking pictures of creeks today. :) – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 23:13, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Glad you like the picture and thanks again, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 00:31, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You are a prophet - see this ;-) Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:52, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Dincher restored the phrase - I delinked it as a compromise. Am still chuckling over 503c (although my 401k is sadly a non-profit lately ;-) ). Take care, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

The good ship SY Aurora (not to mention its drift)
Gosh, that was sudden! I wasn't expecting anything to happen for days and suddenly, there it is, the shiny star. You can never second-guess FAC. Again, thanks for your ever-present help and support (which goes back a long way - remember the Diacovery map?). You may be relieved that this is probably my last front-line Antarctic article for a while. I'm working on a biography of Sir Clements Markham, which is sort of Antarctic-ish, then I've got a couple of music articles, then I want to do something on Nansen...we shall see. All good wishes, Brianboulton (talk) 22:54, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

2004 World Series PR
I think I've addressed all your issues now. BUC (talk) 08:06, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

You think it's ready to be nominated then? BUC (talk) 18:02, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Ethan Hawke
Hi Finetooth, how are you? Listen, I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to leave some comments on Ethan Hawke's peer review, I appreciate it a whole lot. I also wanted to say that I've gotten your concerns, if you can please check them out, and I was hoping you can give the article a double check, which I would appreciate. :) Thanks again. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  21:51, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright, I added the sic to the quote. As for the images, I've tried to find some free licensed images on Flickr of him performing some of his plays he's been on, but I haven't had that great of luck. -- ThinkBlue   (Hit   BLUE)  17:04, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

FYI
I sent an email to Metro about the Natural Areas Program. I copied it on the WikiProject Oregon talk page, if you're interested. (Which I'm guessing you might not be, until we get this FA through!) -Pete (talk) 20:21, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

No Jacket Required
Hello there, thanks for the peer review! I will take a look at your concerns as soon as possible. :) Thank you and have a great day! Carpet Crawler  message me  05:27, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I've taken a closer look at your comments, and thank you so much for your suggestions. I'm a horrible prose writer, and even after getting a few copyedits from people I'm still a sloppy prose writer. Thank you so very much! :) Carpet Crawler  message me  05:50, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * My apologies for the late responses to your Peer Review of NJR. I'm doing as much as I can in the time that I have available. Usually the beginning of the week is a bit more hectic than later in the week. Carpet Crawler  message me  09:10, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I have begun to do a lot of work, however, I have a question about one of your concerns. Whenever you have the free time, could you go and check out my question, here? Thank you! :) Carpet Crawler  message me  07:42, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry that I keep bugging you, but I have done almost everything, except two concerns that you had. One is the concern about the quotes, which I'll work on last, and the other is about pictures. I have a question when it comes to pictures, that I hope you can answer. Feel free to drop by at the PR at anytime to help me out. Thank you. :) Carpet Crawler  message me  06:10, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oooohhh, I always wondered about that! :) Thank you. This guy right here is the photo. It says "All Rights Reserved", so I guess this means it's going to be a pain in the rear to get it on Wiki, hmm? :( Carpet Crawler  message me  04:46, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * OK! I'll see if I can send the user a message... which hopefully is easier than it looks! :) Thanks for your help so far! Carpet Crawler  message me  05:34, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Another look?
Hi Finetooth - don't know if you remember, but about a month back you helped with a peer review of Caversham, New Zealand. I've done a thorough expansion and revamp of the article, and I was wondering if you could have another look, see if you can find areas which still need work (I originally was just trying to get it up to A or GA, but I suspect it may be getting moderately close to FA level). I know there are a couple of unsourced paragraphs - but short of citing a map I don't know how to reference some of them (e.g., "South Road and Hillside Road are the suburb's main streets"). Any help would be appreciated - the peer review's long closed, so if you have any comments, either the article's talk page or my user talk page would be the place to leave them. Thanks in advance! Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  10:25, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much to the improvements and suggestions. I've extended the education information to the point where it doesn't look too out of place as a stand-alone section, and made most of the other amendments you suggested (I still have to go through and expand the references information). I'm not m100% sure of the correct style for "caters for"/"caters to", but no doubt if I nominate this for FA someone there will know for certain. Which raises the next question - do you think this article is close to the point where a FA nomination is worthwhile? Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  01:27, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Request
A couple of weeks ago I peer-reviewed Adelaide Rams. There were numerous prose problems, and I ended up doing a full copyedit. I have suggested to the nominator that a different reviewer should give it a quick once-over, to judge whether it is ready for FAC (somewhat to my surprise it was already GA). It is quite a short article, with some beautifully prepared tables, which made me wonder whether FL might not be a better destination. Would it be possible for you to take a look, and leave a brief comment on the PR page which is still open? If you can fit this in I'd be very grateful. Brianboulton (talk) 22:59, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

unlinking dates
There is still an injunction against systematic removal of date formatting and linkage, so edits like you just made might not be appropriate. —EncMstr (talk) 22:22, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Belated congratulations
I saw your note about Forest Park, & would have congratulated you sooner... but for some reason I learned that you had editted my user page long after you had done so. (Even more perplexing was my discovery that someone -- whom I have never heard of -- vandalized it twice three days before your note, & I only learned about it when I looked to see when you had editted my user page.) -- llywrch (talk) 22:58, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * From me as well -- I saw your note, and meant to reply directly, but it got mixed up in lukewarm birthday-related wikibreak efforts. But my celebration involved a nice hike on the Marquam Trail, approaching Forest Park...so in theory, even then I was working on expanding on your efforts ;) Very nice job. -Pete (talk) 00:33, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * My belated congratulations too. I also was surprised to see I had completely missed this - sorry not to have made PR or FAC comments, but well done (as always). Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:39, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, usually when I piece together a map it winds up much bigger - File:Rosewood Massacre Map.PNG is only four census maps. I assume you resized the map? Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 15:04, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I do the same thing - poor Brianboulton asked me for a tutorial on map making some time ago and I pointed him to various incomplete fragments I have from talk pages, but never really sat down and made a step by step, this is exactly how I do it, guide. However it was made, it is a nice map. I am trying to get a few more photos for the latest state park (Cherry Springs). Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:00, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

U too can help Oregon
Howdy WikiProject Oregon folks. It is time again it is time for another round of the Collaboration Of The Week. A big thank you to those who worked on Calapooya Mountains and Portland Saturday Market, both saw some great improvements. For this week we have two great opportunities for DYKs with Brian McMenamin and Algoma, Oregon. Once again, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:40, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Peer review/Inveresk and York Park Precinct, Launceston/archive1
Absolutely fantastic review! Thanks very much. It might even help with the York Park GAN, thanks again! :)  Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 04:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Bring on the COTW
Good afternoon WikiProject Oregon peoples. It is time again it is time for another round of the Collaboration Of The Week, Volume 82. Thank you to those who worked on Algoma, Oregon‎ and Brian McMenamin, both saw some great improvements and are up for DYks. This week we have Mary Alice Ford and by request Waterfront Blues Festival. Once again, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Live long and phosphorous. Aboutmovies (talk) 23:28, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Clements Markham
This article is on PR – I have developed it from an existing sem-stub. Although it has gained review comments, I would still welcome your input if you can find time, since your feedback is always helpful. Thanks, Brianboulton (talk) 17:31, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Caversham, New Zealand
Hi Finetooth - though you'd like to know that I've just nominated the Caversham, New Zealand article, which you helped review and edit, for Featured article status. Fingers crossed! Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  02:22, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks and a question
Thanks for your review of Cherry Springs SP. When astronomers are on the Astronomy Field, they can camp right on the field itself. As far as I know this is the only place besides the official camping area where you can spend the night in the park. However, I think this is not very clear in the article as you wrote, quoting the article initially: ''"Although it is not an official camping area, overnight observers on the Astronomy Field can set up tents and vehicles in which to camp." - A bit awkward because the first clause seems to modify "overnight observers". Suggestion: "Although the Astronomy Field is not an official camping area, overnight observers can set up tents and vehicles in which to camp." Should "elsewhere in the park" be inserted here for clarity as well? Would it be clearer to say: "Although the Astronomy Field is not an official camping area, overnight observers can set up tents and vehicles there in which to camp."'' Thanks, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:31, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks - the change has been made and we finally have a photo of telescopes in the park, hopefully we are off to FAC soon. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:04, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your kind words - I use Autostitch for the panoramas and it generally works well (alhough it has occasionally choked, once on a photo of a dam). I used to use Panorama Factory, which was also quite nice (but shareware). Now if I could just keep the dog out of shots that I stitch to make panoramas (there is at least part of a canine in twice in the big one at the bottom and twice in one of the big shelter). We now have two images from a professional photographer in the article (telescopes on the field and snowy domes). Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:16, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I also know someone with a small plane who has showed me photos taken from the plane in flight, so I think it is doable. Not sure if the pilot can photograph while flying - sounds dangerous - but a passenger could, and maybe the pilot can too. The aerial photo in Cherry Springs SP is from a USDA aerial survey that Penn State has online at http://www.pennpilot.psu.edu/ . I know there are USGS aerial photos for some places too (which would have a free license). The http://terraserver-usa.com/ site is free too (USGS / Govt work only). The OTRS process is a bit of a pain but went more smoothly this time - I am OK with it for photos with no other source, though it is slow. Sorry not to have a magic solution to the problem, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 11:18, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Follow up on date formatting discussion
Hiya, nice work on the streams articles, as always. :) Could you follow up on this thread? Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Oregon. I'm having trouble seeing how your original question has to do with ISBNs. Thanks! Katr67 (talk) 23:18, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

"re-added publication date"
Hi. I've been checking articles that use Template:Cite gnis. So far I have come across two instances where you added an entry date using a deprecated field name. The field name for that information has changed because there was some confusion about the use of the date field. The field is now. Thanks for your work on wikipedia. -- droll  &#91;chat&#93;  04:42, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Recent changes to gnis template
I left a reply for you on my talk page. -- droll  &#91;chat&#93;  18:09, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Rhyolite
hi;

i'm never sure where to reply to these things, on my talkpage, or the other person's.

i'll respond point by point; please don't take it as rudeness, my time is rather limited & i'm deep in the middle of writing something.

1. the photolayout doesn't cause any jam-ups of [edit] markers, which is the reason for that policy, but i can easily adjust the image a little, if you would prefer. the reason i placed it there is that is the only place in the article that talks about a caboose as a building in rhyolite.

2. the citation has been moved up to the picture caption again. the picture is also now right next to the text specifying the bank's location.

3. i also think it overwhelmingly likely that the caboose & tank are the remains of the gas station; unless for some reason dismounted caboose cabins were commonly used as buildings in rhyolite. if we can't prove it tho, perhaps we should simply remove the pic? or replace it with a different one? WMC has several possibilities; there are other (good) unused shots of the town & area, including several of the caboose. if we're not claiming a connection to the ancient gas station, the tank probably isn't of that much interest; this pic: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Caboose_July_2006.jpg  is better as a photo of just the caboose. or there is that pic of the rhyolite sign: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RhyoliteSign.jpg although i think it would be a better shot if the angle showed more of the town.

4. combed thru & removed the  terminal periods from all captions that might be considered less than complete sentences.

5. i added "Nv" to the end of that line to give some symmetry, simply saying:   "Rhyolite Mercantile", an abandoned general store in Rhyolite  is slightly clumsy; there should be some kind of qualifier on the second usage of "rhyolite", otherwise it seems redundant, & there needs to be some specificity of location. i'm open to alternative phrasings: "Rhyolite Mercantile", an abandoned general store in the town of Rhyolite? or... (do we have a street location for this bldg?)

6. Nv/NV is an accepted abbreviation of Nevada, it is mentioned on the article page for that state. i've no strong attachment to its usage, it was simply the most compact form. i have no objections to your changing it.

7. thank-you re:  lead pic;  a photographer friend of mine took it & i knew it would be a perfect fit when i first saw it; i was the one who talked him into joining wiki (ha).

8. can we get a map of the site/town plan? btwn the park & historical atlases, there must be something that's PD.

Lx 121 (talk) 05:13, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Template:Inflation-fn
I think I fixed Inflation-fn - though working on these complicated templates is always guesswork for me. Anyway it seems to work now. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 15:01, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I figured if I screwed it up too badly I would just revert. I was thinking of adding code so that it is always today's date on the accessdate but did not - the user who made the footnote template has not edited since January or so. the "formatdate =" parameter is new and not in the documentation for templates that I have seen, so I am not sure what it does. I went through and made all the Cherry Springs refs consistent and added it then. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:59, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
Hi, Finetooth, how are you? I remembered how very helpful you were when I was working on Stephen Crane, and I thought that, if you had the time and the inkling, would you mind looking over Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.? Holmes, whose 200th birthday is coming up in August, was a 19th century American polymath and an overall interesting guy. Midnightdreary have been working diligently on his article for a few months, and we hope to have it on the mainpage in time for the centennial... which means FAC is in our very near future. It's currently at PR here, so any comments/suggestions/fixes would be welcome. No worries if you're currently busy, as I understand you're in demand. :) Take care, María ( habla  con migo ) 13:11, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much! Take your time, no rush.  A lengthy peer review means a short and relatively painless FAC.  In theory... María ( habla  con migo ) 17:43, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Cherry Springs
Thanks for the congrats and the help! Dincher (talk) 01:57, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks from me too! Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:00, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Caversham FAC
Hi Finetooth - I've replied to your comments at Featured_article_candidates/Caversham,_New_Zealand/archive1. To cut a long story short, I agree with 95% of what you say, but feel that WP:CIT needs to be fixed up badly, sincew what you suggest makes far more sense than what is given as examples there. Won't have time to fix the Caversham article for a day or twoo, but I'll get onto it ASAP. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  05:39, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I've (hopefully) improved the lede, if you'd care to take another look...? Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  00:56, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Lewis and Clark River
Thanks. I'm in Cannon Beach for the week and can't help but check WP's pages on the local geography. Some could be much improved! Perhaps I'll manage a photo of the Necanicum River too. Pfly (talk) 07:19, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for helping get Caversham, New Zealand to Features Article status! The little gold star was added to the top about an hour ago... Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  06:48, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The congrats go to you, too - you did a lot of work in helping fix it up and polish the edges. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  23:00, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

XOXOXO - Oregon loves you, now love Oregon back!
Greetings to WikiProject Oregon folks. It is time again it is time for another round of the Collaboration Of The Week. A big thank you to those who worked on Mary Alice Ford ‎ and the Waterfront Blues Festival, both saw some great improvements. In honor of the great weather, we have our Semi-annual Great Oregon Picture Drive for this week’s collaboration. You can go out and take a picture, or search for a free one on the Internet, or in some cases remove an old request. See the bottom of this page for some links to a variety of free sources. Again, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:58, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Poker FAce
I have addressed your concerns at the PR of this article. Would you please if there is anything else that needs to be done to the article. --Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 11:28, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I understood what you meant by the plagiarism comment and have changed it to include Kerri Mason's comment in the article. --Legolas  ( talk 2 me ) 04:32, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

No Jacket Required quotes
Hello! I remember in the peer review for No Jacket Required that you had mentioned that I quoted too much material from Phil Collins' Playboy interview. I have trimmed and/or removed some of the quote boxes. Have I done it correctly, or is there still more trimming/removing to be done? In a few days I want to nominate it for a FAN. Thanks! :) Carpet Crawler  message me  22:47, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Wonderful! Thank you for the clarification! In a few days I will nominate it, I cannot wait! Carpet Crawler  message me  05:49, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

photos: why not commons?
FT, I'm really happy that you are ticking off reqphoto locations too. There's what, 900 to go?

Having said that, why don't you put the photos on Commons, rather than en.wikipedia? tedder (talk) 04:26, 30 May 2009 (UTC)


 * If you were at Tyron Creek today, we must have *almost* crossed paths. I went from PDX down through Lake Oswego, out to Haggart Observatory, then Redland, Oregon, back through Oak Grove, Oregon, etc. tedder (talk) 00:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

noun plus -ing
Finetooth, thanks for your concerns. My response is here. I still think it's important for most usages to be pruned out. Like the ability to remove "the" from duple constructions, as I've raised at MOS, not all of the grammar has been mapped, I think. Tony  (talk)  18:05, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Yachats, Oregon
Greetings Finetooth! Nice work on the streams, as usual. I've got a copy editing project for you if you have the time. has done a great job expanding this article, but it's creeping into tourist brochure territory and has some MOS issues. But I think it could get to GA with a little polishing (as soon as he's done adding to it). I've been chipping away at it, but I don't know when I'll get time to do a full-on copyedit. I think having a third opinion would be good as well. Thanks! Katr67 (talk) 23:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the nice offer of help on the article's talk page. Much better than I would have done! Cheers! P.S. I've been wanting to arrange the sections per WP:USCITY, so if I get a couple of minutes and you don't beat me to it, I'll try to do that. Katr67 (talk) 16:40, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Blah blah blah, Oregon COTW
Hello to members of the WikiProject o' Oregon. Once again it is time for the Collaboration Of The Week. A thank you to everyone who participated in the Semi-annual Great Oregon Picture Drive, we added a lot of pictures. For this edition we have by request Mr. Maurice Lucas of the Blazers, and a maintenance type project with the Dab Patrol. For the later, pick any Oregon disambiguation page (mainly common city names) and use the "What links here" feature to find any stray incoming links and direct them to the correct article. Again, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Peace out! Aboutmovies (talk) 07:27, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Peer review
I noticed some of the comments in your sandbox. I've addressed everything except for the picture. Nothing's compatible on Flickr. I've just gotten an e-mail back from Greg Martin, so I'll see if he can offer a photo. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 19:32, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, we're really playing ping pong with this article aren't we? I've made a few more fixes per the suggestions in your sandbox. Greg was really nice and agreed to send a photo of the band. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 01:04, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Request for copyediting
I wonder if you would be prepared to copyedit John Douglas (architect). I have expanded it considerably and it has recently been accepted as a GA. The reviewer made comments which have encouraged me to look towards FAC; it is currently at peer review and copyediting has been recommended. Would you be willing to improve its style, etc.? The spelling is of course English English! Many thanks. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:29, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your speedy response. Any copyediting would be welcomed (although I have asked someone else to do some of this), but the more the merrier (?).  No rush.  Cheers.  Peter. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:54, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for the excellent review, full of positive comments and free from the pedantic self-importance I have suffered from some reviewers. I am always amazed that, no matter how many times you re-read your own work, you still fail to see redundancies, missing words, etc.  The main problem, as you say, is with the lay-out of images.  I think I can solve this by deleting a couple of images and juggling the others.  The deletions will not be a problem because I have added a link to Commons (previously overlooked) which contains these and many other images.  May I ask you to have another look when I have dealt with the points you raised in the review?
 * My personal interest in John Douglas (skip this if you are not interested) started with a talk given by a member of the Victorian Society at the centenary of St John the Evangelist's Church, Sandiway in 2003 given in the church he had designed in the village where he was born (a friend was the vicar). At this talk I learnt that Douglas had also designed my own parish church (St John the Evangelist's Church, Weston) (I first met the friend when he was vicar here) and other buildings which I had found attractive, particularly some of the black-and-white buildings in the centre of Chester and many buildings, large and small, on the Eaton Hall estate and the surrounding villages to the south of Chester.  Yet he is little known and his work is little acknowledged.  The only adequate reference to him is Edward Hubbard's  biography (which is out of print and which I had to borrow from an architect friend).  Hence my writing the article in WP (and articles on a number of his works).
 * Incidentally, do you do peer reviews for lists? I am compiling four lists of Douglas' works, including List of works of John Douglas (new churches) and if this article achieves FA status I may go for FLC for the list(s). Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments on the review now completed. Many thanks again.  Do my amendments work? Peter I. Vardy (talk) 13:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your further comments. Initially I wanted the caricature to be the original size, but on scrolling down, I agree it is out of proportion.  I have therefore reduced its size and shortened the caption, which I think is better.
 * I should like now to nominate the article as a FAC. Is the peer review now complete - and is it up to me to archive it before nomination?  Sorry about these queries; I am a novice at FAC. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:51, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the helpful advice. It is now a FAC. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:53, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Kirkcaldy
hello again

i have taken your comments on board and have edited the article accordingly. i have also cut the size of the article down from 73 to 66 kilobytes long by trimming sentences and removing unneccessary info as i had been advised to do this on the automated peer review. should i now think about wikifying the article or let another user do a copyedit (i won't ask you from what i read at the top of the page). Kilnburn (talk) 20:22, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

For your reviews
For your excellent reviews of Cheadle Hulme and its railway station, I give you this gift of a space pen. Use it well! Thanks a lot,  Majorly  talk  15:27, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

H.M.S. Pinafore
Hi. I've finally nominated this article for FAC: Featured article candidates/H.M.S. Pinafore/archive1. I'd appreciate your comments, and if you are satisfied, your vote. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:27, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I think Shoemaker just needs a few weeks off. He'll be back.  Send him a note to say that you miss him....  Meanwhile, if you ever want to take a look at Pinafore, it will be there.  All the best!  -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:03, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Agness, Oregon
While you're "in the area", feel free to add to one of my early works (back when I was trying to tackle all the redlinked unincorporated communities alphabetically). Looking at it made me cringe, so I just did some work on it. Thanks for the inspiration! Katr67 (talk) 18:22, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Senedd
Thank-you very much for taking the time to review the article. I really do appreciate it. I will edit the article accordingly. Actually the original article that I submitted for GA had 6 lists, I had reduced these, but I take your point, and I will try to remove all the lists from the article. I have had a good go at removing redundant words, but I think it is clear that a lot of work still remains. Thanks again. Seth Whales (talk) 18:55, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

PokerTracker PR
Thanks for all the pointers. Let me know if I have addressed your concerns. I will be watching the PR page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you think it is improved enough to go for GA yet.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 00:45, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Kite Man Says beware of powerlines
Hello to those who participate in WikiProject Oregon. Once again it is time for the Collaboration Of The Week. A thank you to everyone who participated in the Dab Patrol and improvements to Maurice Lucas. For this week we have Oregon company FLIR Systems, and a maintenance type project with the FA Update Drive. For the later, pick any Oregon FA class article and read through it to make sure it is still up-to-date. Again, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. I like frogs. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:41, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

BUS M-28 PR...
I made some expansion of the route description. I need to find a source for the conversion of the former mine building into my alma mater. It should be a simple matter of digging up the newspaper articles on the demolition of the old building or the open house for the new one. I'm working on other copy editing suggestions, but open to suggestions on what to do with the lower photo in the Major intersections section. I'd hate to put a - there, and there aren't any more junctions to add without adding every city street. Imzadi1979 (talk) 01:04, 21 June 2009 (UTC)