User talk:FinkFarm

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Speedy deletion nomination of Memphis Barbecue Network


A tag has been placed on Memphis Barbecue Network, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which articles can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may be soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:
 * It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Business for more information.
 * It appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), individual animal, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. (See section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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Thanks user luk 3. Try this for significance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBQ_Pitmasters, read the 2nd paragraph. KCBS can be found but MBN is a DEAD link. well, back to google for everyone. GOOD JOB.

Proposed deletion of Memphis barbecue network


The article Memphis barbecue network has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Non-notable club, no notability asserted. Was also previously deleted (Memphis Barbecue Network) by Ironholds.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Electric Catfish 17:28, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks alot. I was trying to add the notablility credits to it through newspaper articles and other ways when it was deleted. Try here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBQ_Pitmasters right after the part about KCBS. But you deleted it. oh well. I guess everyone will have to keep using google to find out information instead of wikipedia.

Speedy deletion nomination of Memphis barbecue network


A tag has been placed on Memphis barbecue network, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which articles can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may be soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:
 * It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Business for more information.
 * It appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), individual animal, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. (See section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Gilderien Chat&#124;List of good deeds 17:29, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

I wold not have to contact an administrator if you would have let me finish editing the page. I was adding the information and the page was deleted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBQ_Pitmasters there is KCBS with a link to page and MBN with a still dead link. I guess people will keep using google for information as wikipedia is half information.

September 2012
Please do not remove speedy deletion notices from pages you have created yourself. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Click here to contest this speedy deletion, which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. Electric Catfish 17:34, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I did and my talk page was deleted. I am trying to help people out by creating a page. If you want to help, help, but let it be seen! — Preceding unsigned comment added by FinkFarm (talk • contribs)

Please stop removing speedy deletion notices from pages that you have created yourself, as you did with Memphis barbecue network. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Lone boatman (talk) 17:55, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you remove a speedy deletion notice from a page you have created yourself, as you did at Memphis barbecue network, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Lone boatman (talk) 17:58, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

I have deleted the page as a violation of several of our policies, including copyright infringement. You need to stop what you are doing, and read carefully through Wikipedia policies on how to edit, as you are extremely close to being blocked from editing. Let me reiterate: it does NOT matter that you think people should know about your barbecue network. That is not what Wikipedia is for. Please review the links on this page in previous warnings CAREFULLY before editing again. &rArr;  SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  18:13, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

GOOD JOB! Now how about fixing the dead link on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBQ_Pitmasters in the article about the Memphis Barbecue Network? Do something constructive instead of destructive.


 * Instead of raging at other editors with tens of thousands of constructive edits on this project, and telling us how to do our jobs, please consider my suggestion above and read up on our policies so you don't make the same mistakes and get your account blocked. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  18:24, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Why don't you edit if that's what you do and fix the dead link on this page? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBQ_Pitmasters ? KCBS has a page, yet MBN is deleted. FYI I was editing the page as it was deleted both times. I was using the pages talk page to try to discuss what what going on. The talk page was deleted without an explanation the first time. Why don't you edit and add instead of delete? Can we at least get a google search button for more information on a topic?

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Cut It Out
Youre recent edits, such as recreating a deleted article, spamming, removing speedy deletion templates, and calling other editors names gives us the impression that you are not here to build an encyclopedia. I advise you to cut it out, or you will be show the door. Crossed out overly-harsh comment. My bad. Electric Catfish 18:36, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I was the one that had a page I was trying to work on deleted 2 times. I tried using the talk page for that page and it was deleted. I want to be a part of this by adding constructive information but seem to get blocked and accused of a page being "MY" page when all I was trying to do was create a page and make wikipedia a BETTER source of information. There is a DEAD link here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBQ_Pitmasters on the 2nd paragraph. No one is concerned about that. I was trying to create the page for that MBN the way the KCBS has a page that links to the same paragraph. I kept getting threats of deletion AND without the talk page even being used. Now, how would you like that? I was TRYING and IN THE PROCESS of editing the page when it was DELETED. TWICE! BTW where is the spamming? Everyone hates spam.
 * Yes, but we tried to explain to you why we had to delete it, but you kept on removing the tags and even recreated it. When we tried to personally explain to you why it was deleted, you came back at us with personal attacks and you called editors inappropriate names. Electric Catfish 18:45, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, FinkFarm. I am Dianna and I am an administrator on this wiki. The reason your article was deleted is because the organization is not notable enough, as Wikipedia defines it, for inclusion in the encyclopedia at this time. What we need to see is coverage in reliable third-party sources such as newspapers or other media to establish notability. There's information available via Google search, but so far it's just Facebook and Twitter and the organization's own website. In this way it's different from the Kansas City Barbeque Society article, which includes references to four different write-ups in the media. I am sure, though your article was deleted quite quickly, that those who reviewed it did investigate thoroughly, and came to the same conclusion that I did. Sorry. - Dianna (talk) 18:53, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, you may want to submit the article to Articles for Creation when you have worked on it. There's much less of a chance that it will be deleted that way. Electric Catfish 18:56, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Regardless of notability issues, will need to resolve the copyvio concerns first. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  20:00, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Diannaa, I was in the process of including articles from various newspapers around the country. The Sacramento Bee, a Nashville newspaper, etc. I was in the process of editing this page and it was deleted a 2nd time without the person deleting it even adding to the TALK page. MBN is just as popular as the KCBS, which by the way does have a page on wikipedia. I was also adding links to other web pages and to the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBQ_Pitmasters where Memphis Barbecue Network has a DEAD LINK. I could not even finish EDITING this page and it was deleted. I thought I could help by creating a page for this since I had to google it and then people would not have to google it. Here in NC USA MBN is actually MORE known than KCBS.
 * I understand how you feel. Why don't you work on it in your userspace and move it to mainspace when you are done? Electric Catfish 19:04, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Who can I get to look at it before I present it so it doesn't get deleted? Do I need to write it in a word document and then past it? If I am going to spend time creating a page I don't want it to be deleted and have to start from scratch. I don't mind putting the time and effort into something, and even editing it to make it fit within the proper parameters, but hate to REDO something over and over again. FinkFarm
 * It probably won't be deleted if you submit it as an AFC or work on it in your userspace. I'd suggest working on it in your sandbox, and than moving it to AFC space. Also, put on top. Electric Catfish 19:11, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Electric Catfish, what is an AFC space? I am currently working on a page and want to submit it to an AFC space as soon as I can. Thank you. FinkFarm
 * Hi! I'm very sorry for my harsh statements. AFC stands for articles for creation. It's a process to create an article where you work on an article with experienced editor, who helps you fix errors with it. It is very unlikely that an article created through the AFC process will be deleted. Electric Catfish 20:19, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * A good way to start an article without the risk of premature deletion is to go to Help:Userspace draft and fill in your proposed title. That will create a draft page in your "user space", with a link to useful advice and a "Submit" button which will send the article, when it is ready, to WP:Articles for creation, where an experienced user will look at it, and either it will be accepted or you will be given feedback. JohnCD (talk) 23:02, 2 September 2012 (UTC)