User talk:Finnusertop/Archive/2020

Happy New Year
Wishing you and yours the best and most fruitful 2020. Above all, I wish you all health. Colds come and go, but there are worse things out there. May none of your near and dear be afflicted. Well, on that sombre note, allow me to liven up proceedings and, again, wish you a fabulous 2020! Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:37, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated, ! I join you in expressing love for this wonderful Wiki and wikilove for its amiable inhabitants. Above all, I wish you well! – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 01:04, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Hwang Sun-hui funeral committee
Hi,

I read the funeral committee for Hwang Sun-hui has been formed and it comprehends 70 names. Did you find the list online? I searched even in Korean but can not find the full list, only articles noting Ri Su-yong is not on it. Did you find it? Thanks, --Folengo (talk) 13:15, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I found it on KCNA in Korean last night. I've transliterated the list, citing Choson Sinbo for the benefit of a stable link. It's a highly interesting list, as this is the first published funeral committee in over a year and includes many new names thanks to sweeping organizational changes within the political elite. It's a great "redlist" if you're interested in writing biographies for important people. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:52, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

File:Golden Lion.jpg
I think the other image with white background, whose FFD discussion is closed as "no consensus", is more suitable as infobox image than this one. What shall you do about the image with someone holding the trophy? --George Ho (talk) 01:49, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, . We need to figure out which image to use, as we can't have both. I hoped that seeing both images and their respective rationales would have helped discussion. Frankly, I'm a little perplexed as to why closed it so early, just one day after it being relisted and with zero new arguments being presented.


 * As for the actual issue, I've tried, unsuccessfully, to get this across: File:Golden Lion size.jpg involves the copyright of sculptor and the copyright of the person who took the photo, both of whom have reserved all rights. File:Golden Lion.jpg too involves the copyright of the sculptor, but the person who took the photo has waived all rights, making it WP:FREER than File:Golden Lion size.jpg.


 * What I would have liked to hear at FFD is whether people agree or disagree with this argument instead of a close that leaves both files in limbo. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:01, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think Sandstein would likely respond, would he? In terms of quality, I think the long-standing image (white background one) should stay, while the other one should go, no matter how "free" the hands one is. If you disagree, then please feel free to take both images to FFD if you like. George Ho (talk) 05:39, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, (?), I think I should, because quality is a total non-argument in terms of non-free content policy, something which Wikipedia is quite famous for. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:08, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you ...
... for improving articles in January! Today - 20 in 2020 - is a birthday, she is pictured on the lower choir pic, enjoy listening. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:38, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

...For editing my educational assignment! Much appreciated Martintran88 (talk) 09:20, 25 May 2020 (UTC) MartinTran88
 * No problem, . It (Fishing industry of South Korea) is an important topic. I have it watchlisted so I'll try to take a look at it from time to time and see if there is anything to fix. Happy editing to you! – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 09:33, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

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Unsourced content since over 15 years!
Hi Finnusertop, recently I saw, you removed UNSOURCED content tagged with citation needed since 2007. But still the article is not clean yet. How can to deal with these kind of unsourced personal opinions? These two paragraphs are still in the article. It's a shame. Please remove it quickly before more people got fooled. With regards. --46.114.38.15 (talk) 01:40, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jakten_p%C3%A5_Odin&diff=12055609&oldid=12055334
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jakten_p%C3%A5_Odin&diff=140521148&oldid=111420058
 * Hi, and thanks for reporting problematic content. I've removed the paragraph about the relationship between Turkish/Huns and the Scandinavians. The paragraph about the "Odin-people" in Azerbaijan, it seems, was no longer in the article. Were these what you intended to remove, or is there still some problematic content present in the article? As to what to do to such content in general, anyone, including you (you don't need to register for an account to edit most articles) can simply remove it. Cheers! – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 10:50, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The opposite was actually the case. That Azerbaidschan stuff is allright and sourced. It’s what Thor Heyerdahl proposed. As indicated you only had to remove the invented and unsourced „Ossetian Iranism“ pseudo stuff. That’s why I contacted you. Kind regards. —46.114.36.1 (talk) 22:17, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Your last edit seems ok though. Just remove the Ossetian rest nonsense. —46.114.36.1 (talk) 22:22, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

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Article improvements
Valentine month, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:55, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

... and today's Alte Liebe became especially meaningful after yesterday's funeral. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:23, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

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St. Patrick's Day
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Finnish related dispute
In case you are interested, see Template_talk:Lutheran_hymnody, this concerns questions of who should be put into the template. Some of the disputed people were Finns, I think all of them are authors in the current Finnish hymnal.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 18:48, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Happy Easter
or: the resurrection of loving-kindness --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:48, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

... today Credo, or this is the day from Psalm 118. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:01, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

File:Principality of Wy flag.png
Hi Finnusertop. You uploaded this as non-free symbol, but it seems pretty simple per c:COM:TOO even if it's protected by copyright in its country of origin. Maybe the licensing could be change to PD-ineligible-USonly? If not, then that's OK but the file keeps on getting added to Flags of micronations where it's non-free use is near impossible to justify. If converted to "PD-ineligible-USonly", the file could be added to the more general flag article since its use would no longer be subject to WP:NFCCP. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:30, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , I think it's a borderline case in terms of US TOO. I count many elements (at least two crosses and four fields; possibly more from their interactions). – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 01:35, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * That's fine and perhaps worth further discussing, but in that case the file's non-free use cannot really be justified in the list or gallery articles about micronations. I know you didn't add it to those articles, but just wanted to check about the licensing since you uploaded the file. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:42, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes,, I intentionally uploaded it as non-free instead of PD-ineligible-USonly for the reason I just gave you. It's a good thing you asked because oftentimes the uploader fails to consider that possibility. If you want to further discuss this particular file, you can file a FFD. It could swing either way. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 01:48, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Please remove {hidden end} templates when you remove {hidden begin} templates
Thank you for unhiding this content. In the future, please remember to remove the {hidden end} templates along with the {hidden begin} templates. Thanks! – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:46, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry,, I seem to have forgotten this time. Thanks for cleaning up after me. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 15:11, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

May
Thank you for article improvements in May! - DYK our list of people for whose life I'm thankful enough to improve their articles? - I have a FAC open, one of Monteverdi's exceptional works, in memory of Brian who passed me his collected sources. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

today a composer pictured who wrote a triple concerto for violin, harp and double bass, in honour of the composer who died and my brother who plays double bass. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks
Hi Finnusertop, I appreciate the edit on my educational assignment "Fishing Industry of South Korea"! Have a great day/night. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martintran88 (talk • contribs) 09:21, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Seven years on Wikipedia

 * Thanks, ! I hope it has not been time wasted but a contribution, no matter how humble, to this great register of the sum of all human knowledge. Let's continue to make history! – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 05:52, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

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FINE
The article for FINE doesn't seem to apply to the genetics wiki project. I'm a bit new so perhaps a missing something. What's the connection? Thanks! Astropiloto (talk) 18:58, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * you are, of course, correct. I probably had a few too many tabs open and got it mixed up with some other topic. I've tagged it with the correct WikiProject Trade. Thanks for pointing this out to me. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:28, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem! Glad I could help. Astropiloto (talk) 18:47, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Sorabji article photos
Dear Finnusertop, back in 2018, you uploaded a non-free photo of Sorabji to File:Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji.jpg, which is justified by several NFCC. I intend to take the Sorabji article to FA status this year, but the relative scarcity of free images of Sorabji and people close to him may be a major obstacle in achieving that. One person whose picture I would like to include in the article is that of Sorabji's companion Reginald Norman Best, with whom he lived for several decades. The rationale would be the same as for the Sorabji photo, and if anything, the case would be even stronger: I'm aware only of a grand total of two of photos of Best, which were taken by the same photographer (Joan Muspratt) who took the photo of Sorabji in the lead, and Best died a couple months before Sorabji. The photos have been published on a Facebook page dedicated to Sorabji (see and ), but I'm not sure if being reproduced "merely" on Facebook would disqualify them from being used. At least the photo with a yellow-ish background (from the first Facebook link) has been reproduced in a PhD dissertation on Sorabji's life (see p. 330 [numbered 329 at the bottom of the page] in the PDF file at https://search.proquest.com/docview/304711487). Would you be able to help with this case? I have very limited experience with this area of Wikipedia and I entrust it to your better judgment and expertise. Many thanks for your time and assistance. Toccata quarta (talk) 22:13, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello,, and thank you for the question. I'm sorry to tell you that using a non-free image of Best would probably not pass the NFCC. The problem is contextual significance which is interpreted differently for the main subject of the article (in this case Sorabji) and other subjects that the article deals with only tangentially (here Best). It's virtually always acceptable to identify the person who is the main subject of the article by a lead image (see WP:NFCI§10). But for other, tangential subjects, to identify them visually is not deemed necessary for the reader to understand what's being discussed. Some types of images could be used to accompany critical commentary of visual aspects (such as a painting in an article about a painter when discussing his style), but this is not one of those cases (since what Best looked like is not relevant). This is how it's in the policy and this is how it always goes down in discussion at WP:FFD.


 * As for the images by Muspratt (both of Sorabji and of Best): Muspratt seems to have died in 1957, which means that all photographs by her will enter the public domain in 2027. Until then, we're stuck with the present situation (that the Sorabji is okay to use in the article but the Best one is not). I don't think the Facebook thing would have maked a difference. But my understanding is that the lack of addditional images should not negatively affect any bid for an FA article since FAs only have to have images "where appropriate" (the Good Article criteria are a bit more clear on this, saying images are called for "when possible"). – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 00:55, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello Finnusertop, thank you for the information (and apologies for answering just now; I have been rather busy these past few days). Regarding the copyright for Muspratt's photos, I managed to obtain permission to use her photos years ago, but for various reasons I did not proceed further with it and got confirmation recently that the copyright heir would have to either upload the photos to Wikipedia/Commons themselves or confirm their approval via email to someone high up in the WMF hierarchy. And so it continues... Thank you again. Toccata quarta (talk) 16:54, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, . It would require you to get them send in a permission through WP:DONATEIMAGE (WP:OTRS). – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:04, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello Finnusertop, it's me again. I have been gathering information/permissions for using Sorabji-related images on WP, and managed to get approval for two excerpts from one edition (from both Alistair Hinton, the composer's residual legatee, and the editor who created the edition). What would be the easiest way to proceed from here on? Have both send their approvals via email, with one of them uploading the excerpts? Obviously one of the emails will arrive earlier, so I hope there is no issue with "Speedy Deletion" for images. To what email do you recommend they send the approvals? Will it be better to put them on Commons or WP? Thank you for your guidance here. Toccata quarta (talk) 05:07, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks for coming back. It's best if the photo(s) are first uploaded on Commons (it does not matter who does this if permission is forthcoming, so it could be you for example). The next step is to tag the image with Template:OTRS pending (please use to code  to do so). This will achieve exactly what you asked, i.e. prevent the image from being speedy deleted when we're still waiting for the permissions to arrive (you will have 37 days). Next, instruct the heir(s) to send the permission email. It's very important that you give them the exact URL of the file(s) you just uploaded to be included in the email. Likewise, make them write the exact license you chose for the upload (the default, which is "CC BY-SA 4.0", should be fine). They should use the form outlined here: Commons:Email templates. That should be it. If there is still doubts after this process, they might need to send additional permissions or proof that they are the heirs. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:56, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello Finnusertop, thank you once again for the information. I uploaded the files to Commons and they are now "split" between Commons and Wikipedia (see, and ). Alistair Hinton (Sorabji's residual legatee) and Abel Sánchez-Aguilera (a Sorabji editor and performer) have both provided their permissions to Commons via email, but with the exception of the Organ Symphony No. 3 excerpt (for which only Hinton's approval is necessary), neither of them qualifies as the "holder of the full and exclusive copyright". Both used the email template from Commons:Email templates, which might be causing some confusion, judging by the information I have received from Hinton and Sánchez-Aguilera. The "same" query is being handled by two different individuals, and I'm not sure if they are in touch with each other on the matter (or if that is even allowed). Is there anything I can do to clarify the situation? The files (see the aforementioned links) contain information on who owns the copyrights to what. Thank you. Toccata quarta (talk) 14:11, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
 * By the same query being handled by two different people you meant the people you asked to email permissions or the OTRS volunteers who'll review them? – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 09:39, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I meant the OTRS volunteers who have received the permissions via email. Toccata quarta (talk) 12:07, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * File:Sorabji, Piano Symphony No. 1 (Tantrik), edition, page 96.png and File:Sorabji, Organ Symphony No. 3 manuscript, page 124.jpg have not been taken up by a reviewer yet. Those OTRS tickets (the emails) don't have a number. File:Sorabji, Piano Symphony No. 1 (Tantrik), edition, page 244.png does have a number. If you think the information sent regarding the last file will also help clearing the rights for the first two, you can copy and paste the "OTRS received" template onto those pages. You can repeat this process for the other two files when those OTRS emails have actually been taken up. That's how I'd link those permissions. And yes, it is allowed. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 13:01, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the information, Finnusertop. I procrastinated a bit with this issue (like I usually do), but in the end, it was resolved smoothly and all three uploads are now tagged as having the requisite permissions. If I may bother you further (though I hope to give you a break sooner than later), there is a photo of Sorabji's father here. The copyright is given on the very photo as "Maull & Fox : 187A Piccadilly, London (1879-85)", for which a few details are given here. I found just a handful of photos from this source on Commons (e.g. File:Markham_Le_Fer_Taylor.jpg), though this may simply indicate that the collection includes mostly images of non-notable individuals. Would you say the photo of Sorabji's father would be PD? For what it's worth, he was born in 1863 and died in 1932, and the photo was taken sometime in the 1890s. Many thanks. Toccata quarta (talk) 11:39, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello Finnusertop, I hope you're doing well. As mentioned earlier in this conversation, I have managed to contact the copyright holder for Joan Muspratt's photos and have resumed correspondence with them recently. Following their confirmation, I have uploaded three of Muspratt's photos to Commons, tagged them with the OTRS template and asked the copyright holder to provide their confirmation via the official channels. One of the files I've uploaded (File:Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji in 1945 (b).jpg) is a high-resolution version of File:Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji.jpg. Once the OTRS volunteers have processed the email granting the permission for those images to be used, is there some process as to what happens to the older file, which was uploaded on the basis of NFCC criteria? Or can it stay, as it is a version of a photo for which permissions have been (will be) granted and confirmed? Thank you for the information. Toccata quarta (talk) 16:17, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I am so sorry,, I seem to have missed your message (I did get a notification but I must have gotten distracted). Anyway, the answer is simple: once you are confident enough that the Commons file will stick, please go ahead and replace the NFC file in the article with it. This will leave the NFC file "orphaned" (no longer used in any articles). There is a bot that will go through these and delete them without you having to take any action. Once again, sorry for the belated reply. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 01:37, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the response. The process around the Muspratt photos at Commons took forever to finalize, but at last they are included in the Sorabji article. I considered adding Di-orphaned fair use to the NFCC file, but the guidelines around its usage are a bit messy and I will leave it to the bot to sort things out. Cheers. Toccata quarta (talk) 16:33, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

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June
Thank you for improving articles in June. I can proudly present a FA, quite a gift after a year without, and a FL is in the making, comments welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:50, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you in July
Thank you for improving articles in July! Now a FTN is open. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:30, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Seabee
I am curious. You added "rps=63" to a very long article tag. What did adding rps=63 do for the article? Thank you.Mcb133aco (talk) 18:03, 22 July 2020 (UTC)mcb133aco Mcb133aco (talk) 18:03, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

correction 62 Mcb133aco (talk) 18:07, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, . "Rps" stands for readable prose seize. Someone had tagged the article with the template Very long because they thought it was too long. I took the "rps" reading to see just how long it is. This makes it easy to compare with the rule of the thumb here; a readable prose size of 60 or more means that the article probably should be split or otherwise condensed. Adding the "rps" number does nothing except for alter the tag at the top of the article to read "This article may be too long to read and navigate comfortably. The readable prose size is 62 kilobytes." – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:34, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. I would not have troubled you if I even had an idea what to Google. The 62 is an impossible number to reduce to so I will end my reduction effort. That was most enlightening to learn. Thank you again.Mcb133aco (talk) 19:52, 22 July 2020 (UTC)mcb133aco Mcb133aco (talk) 19:52, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

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What is your issue with CC-BY-SA-4.0?
Hi! In this edit you imply that the CC-BY-SA-4.0 licence is incompatible with Wikipedia. Can you explain the issue here? That licence is free content. I'm in touch with the owners of the original text and I don't think relicensing will be a problem if necessary. I've looked at Copyrights and I don't see anything there forbidding text with this licence. I also don't see on my Talk page any notification about this problem. Thanks in advance for any help, MartinPoulter (talk) 13:56, 6 August 2020 (UTC) Ah, I've followed the link you posted which I should have done first of all. I've learned something new today! I'll get the licence changed to CC-BY-SA 3.0 on the source site. MartinPoulter (talk) 13:59, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure, . That should solve the problem. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 14:20, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Conte (literature)
I nominated the article for DYK at Template:Did you know nominations/Conte (literature). I would also be interested in better hook suggestions if you have them. SL93 (talk) 14:08, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Wow, thanks ! The hook you drafted is fine. It captures the two major characteristics of the conte: subject matter and length. I'll watch the nom page to see how it goes. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 14:15, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

August
Thank you for improving articles in August! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:41, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

A first for me today: a featured list (= a featured topic in this case) on the Main page, see Main Page history/2020 August 21, an initiative by Aza24 in memory of Brian. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:28, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Rhythm Is It! - I expanded that stub on my dad's birthday because we saw the film together back then, and were impressed. As a ref said: every educator should see it. Don't miss the trailer, for a starter. - A welcome chance to present yet another article by Brian on the Main page, Le Sacre du printemps. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:18, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Conte (literature)
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
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American Board
I removed the CopyVio Template from American Board of Commissioners for Foreign Missions, since the text that seems to have been the problem was removed 1 February 2007 Here by I explained on the talk page. Feel free to correct me if I misunderstood!

Cheers in any case.ch (talk) 20:45, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

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September
Thank you for improving articles in September! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:27, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

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well china article uses Marxist–Leninist and socialist, so why should north korea not use Juche and socialist?
Unitary Marxist–Leninist one-party socialist republic in china country infobox, why should north korea not use juche and socialist in its? Gooduserdude (talk) 09:18, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * we should have this conversation at Talk:North Korea so that other editors interested in that article may follow it. I've relayed your comment there. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:06, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

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Change requests on Neste article
Hi there! As you've earlier edited Neste I was wondering if you could take a look about the proposals I made on the Talk page. Cheers and have a nice December! Jjanhone (talk) 10:04, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Ri Tae-jun


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Westminster Presbyterian Church in the United States
I noticed you edited this page. Unlike when I contributed to the (archived) "delete" discussion in 2006, I can see no evidence that this denomination has any meaningful existence any more. Perhaps Brian Schwertley preaches to some people in Prosper, Texas (SermonAudio shows new audio sermons by him every week, but gives no street address for church services), but WPCUS certainly does not seem to be a micro-denomination with several locations across North America, like it was 15 years ago. I have not made any enquiries beyond Google searches, but the websites listed on Wikipedia are dead. --PeterR2 (talk) 11:00, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi,, and thanks for dropping by. Although notability is not temporary (i.e. if something was notable in 2006, it still is), it's no secret that deletion debates in the olden days were not quite as stringent as they are now. I would consider simply re-nominating it for deletion at WP:AFD. I might not be personally interested in nominating or participating. You see, I stumbled upon that article via the random articles function, so I don't really know anything about it. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 15:13, 30 December 2020 (UTC)