User talk:FireCrystal/Archive 2

Edit
I didn't intentionally remove your statement on Suicide Silence for them re-releasing their EP on In at the Deep End, or Third Degree or whatever it was. An edit conflict came about and I copy-pasted my work along with fixing others things within the change that you made and that change from "In at the Deep End" to "Third Degree" was something I missed so... sorry. Also, if you could - explain this here why you made that change? Is IATDE a sub-company of Third Degree? • GunMetal Angel  21:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)


 * It doesn't have an article, so you can't link it, also all the info I added at the begining I got from this month's Revolver (the one with Suicide Silence on the cover), but I'm unsure how to state book sources. • GunMetal Angel  22:08, 31 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, thank you, if you're bored or generally have nothing to do, you could help me out with my article Salt the Wound by adding information or get more imformation for their upcoming second album Ares. • GunMetal Angel  00:37, 1 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks a ton! And also, I kept the URL in the infobox empty because originally they had their own website (not just a MySpace profile) but they couldn't pay the bandwidth and I was waiting until they got it back up, but I guess that's gonna be a long time. • GunMetal Angel  01:54, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Just for a personal question - have you ever heard of them before? • GunMetal Angel  02:25, 2 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I created their article after hearing their music off of Liquid Metal last year. • GunMetal Angel  02:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, thanks again! You're obviously on more than me, well the article is in top shape, how 'bout an image to top it all off? Make it your choice! You deserve it ;] — GunMetal Angel  00:16, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Flag icons
Regarding your edits on the Planet X album pages, the reason I used flag icons was because Megadeth's upcoming release, Endgame, appears to be using them to good effect. I hadn't really thought about it before until I read that article, but it seemed like a neat idea to use them for Planet X's album pages because of how many release locations there were. Is it specifically stated anywhere within WP:flags that flag icons are not to be used in album infoboxes? If this is indeed the case, then that's fine. I just felt like getting some clarification on this. Mac dreamstate (talk) 04:47, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Gojira: or more specifically, Joe Duplantier
The reason I supplied those links, although they were just redirects, was because I have plans on re-making the Joe Duplantier wikipedia article. I believe that he is notable enough for his own article, considering that he is part of two bands with their own articles, Gojira and Cavalera Conspiracy. Last time I checked, being part of two notable bands with wikipedia articles is enough for a person to have their own article. Also, like I usually do, I will supply multiple reliable sources to back the information up (I thought I'd mention that, considering the discussion that went on that determined to redirect the page via reasoning of lack of sources). Do you agree with me creating this page? However, I will acknowledge that I did set up those links prematurely, and it was worth it for you to revert the links I made. Backtable Speak to Me about what I have done  05:09, 10 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I will keep that link info in mind; thanks for the feedback. Backtable Speak to Me  about what I have done  05:43, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Myspace as a source
Why isn't myspace a reasonable source if it's a press release from the band? Blabbermouth just used the press release from the band.. which was posted..... on myspace. I don't understand the rationale here, but it seems totally unnecessary. 62.182.5.46 (talk) 21:22, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Your comment to my inevitable end article
As you said in your previous message to me about Inevitable End you express the idea that a subject would become notable when third party sources back up the information that is presented in the article. I decided to check out your link about third party sources and it says "Reliable sources are credible published materials with a reliable publication process; their authors are generally regarded as trustworthy or authoritative in relation to the subject at hand. How reliable a source is depends on context. As a rule of thumb, the more people engaged in checking facts, analyzing legal issues, and scrutinizing the writing, the more reliable the publication." So my question to you is, what constituents a reliable third party source in metal. The majority of metal bands never chart on billboard but that doesn't mean thousands of people don't enjoy that band so even though thousands of people like something its not considered notable? People aren't going out and writing scholarly journals about metal bands and their certainly isn't televised news coverage about 99.9% of metal, Pig Destroyer was just featured in the Sunday Washington Post, but if we go by that logic Pig Destroyer would be the only band in metal. Metal is loved around the world by tons of people so how do I find third party sources on a majority of bands who get most of their coverage and fan base off of websites such as lambgoat.com smnnews.com blabbermouth.net and myspace...if these aren't the credible third party sources for metal then what is. Media like magazines could be considered more reliable print but most of the time articles are interviews with members of the band or opinion posts which your link to the third party sources page strictly forbids. I am at a loss because there is more to metal then Metallica, Slayer, Tool and Disturbed and I don't know how to justify it properly on wikipedia. I am sorry if I sound angry and upset but I have had multiple pages deleted on me before and I don't understand how I can justify notability...I am doing everything short of having all those thousands of fans sign a petition and then scan the petition right onto the wikipedia page. Please Help! T0778kj (talk) 03:30, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Born of Osiris
I noticed you changed the genre information on Born of Osiris back to Metalcore, on the grounds my source was unreliable. However, I don't whether you are familiar with their music or not, but Metalcore is definetly not their sole genre.

The source already provided is, in my opinion, innacurate. Does this mean Wikipedia has to also be innaccurate? I'm not an expert with what are considered reliable/non reliable sources on this En Wiki so if you could have a look for a suitable one, that would be great. Cheers, The Flying   Spaghetti Monster!  22:16, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I found a source on which as an album review on Blabbermouth that refers to them as Deathcore. Is this suitable? The Flying  Spaghetti Monster!  22:29, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes sure, I know they are more metalcore than a band like Suicide Silence say. I just wanted to make sure people weren't confused as they are a bit heavier than something like Killswitch Engage or Bullet For My Valentine, which is the kind of thing I think when someone says Metalcore. The Flying  Spaghetti Monster!  22:43, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Archiving
Would you like me to archive your talk page? :) -- Scythre Talk Contribs 19:58, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * All done. Hit me up when you want some more :) -- Scythre Talk Contribs 20:41, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

More assistance
Bored? Well I may need some extra hands with Parkway Drive and its subpages (albums and other extents). Take a look. • GunMetal Angel  17:43, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmm? Irnorance? But whatever, that page has been on my watchlist for well over a year, and with the release of their first DVD in Australia (making its way to the US on September 2) and a third album in writing, I thought it could use your touch, you always finalize things very well. - GunMetal Angel  16:01, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Out --> out
Hey.... even though it looks kinda odd (especially for "In and out of Love"), as far as I can see, the "out" should be lowercase. In WP:SONGS, the capitalization section refers to WP:ALBUMCAPS, so I would just reference that:

In titles of songs, albums, and band names in the English language, the project standard is to capitalize:
 * 1) The first word and last word in the title.
 * 2) All other words except for coordinating conjunctions (and, but, or, nor), prepositions (of, to, in, for, on, over), articles (an, a, the), and the word to in infinitives. Note that short verbs (Is, Are, Be, Do) and pronouns (Me, It, His) are capitalized. - eo (talk) 09:35, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Edge of Sanity
"so Michael Akerfeldt contributed to a few songs, how does that make them associated? There needs to be at least two related members.". Then why is Katatonia or Bloodbath listed as "associated"? Peter Tagtgren put in MUCH less contribution than Akerfeldt, and Jonas Renkse is the only member of Katatonia who had anything to do with EoS. Explain that. Also, Akerfeldt contributed to the albums Crimson and Infernal - that's a little more than "a few songs". --Danteferno (talk) 01:02, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Formatting, thank you!
Thanks for catching me on a couple of pages with my formatting. I followed your WP:MUSTARD, found the discography formatting standard (which you provided anyway). I'm all for consistency, just didn't realize the standard'd already been set! I'll correct other pages as well. : ) Keraunoscopia (talk) 07:40, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Galaxy (band)
How do you like this edit Galaxy (disambiguation)? Gosh, I gotta get more sources and maybe make a decent article. I heard of this band only last week and I love that song. :-D 192.30.202.21 (talk) 19:12, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi FireCrystal. Same guy as above, different IP. Reverted your edit on Galaxy (disambiguation). If you want to respond, please do so here, as I'm using a library computer, and that talk page is cluttered. :-D 192.30.202.11 (talk) 19:25, 16 February 2010 (UTC)


 * (original comment deleted, retyped) Ok, I'll make this short since Wikipedia erased my comment when I hit "save page". Generally see WP:disamb for proper entry for disambig pages (if a band does not have an attributable link then it should not be linked). As far as sources go, the one listed on the Galaxy (band) talk page are blogs and are of dubious quality. Once the article is created then the entry on the band or a the key member of said band can be linked for that entry. Please see WP:MUSIC notability criteria before making the page however. I hope you understand Wikipedia policy.
 * Can we ever (thoroughly) understand Wikipedia policy? :-D Very well, as the links, Youtube video, the fact that I heard the song on a college station, or the Space rock link counts for little, if anything, feel free to remove it. Perhaps I could create a list or put in Wikinfo's Galaxy. Maybe not. (Hmmmm.)205.189.194.249 (talk) 18:47, 17 February 2010 (UTC)