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Administrators' newsletter – February 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2023).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Gimmetrow
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Bjelleklang · Bob the Wikipedian · Leithp · WhisperToMe · 100 inactive admins



CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg BDD · Bradv · Donald Albury · Maxim · MusikAnimal

Oversighter changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg BDD · Bradv · Donald Albury · Maxim

Guideline and policy news
 * Following an RfC, the administrator policy now requires that prior written consent be gained from the Arbitration Committee to mark a block as only appealable to the committee.
 * Following a community discussion, consensus has been found to impose the extended-confirmed restriction over the topic areas of Armenia and Azerbaijan and Kurds and Kurdistan.

Technical news
 * The Vector 2022 skin has become the default for desktop users of the English Wikipedia.

Arbitration Miscellaneous
 * The arbitration case Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 24 February 2023.
 * In December, the contentious topics procedure was adopted which replaces the former discretionary sanctions system. The contentious topics procedure is now in effect following an initial implementation period. There is a detailed summary of the changes and administrator instructions for the new procedure. The arbitration clerk team are taking suggestions, concerns, and unresolved questions about this new system at their noticeboard.
 * Voting in the 2023 Steward elections will begin on 05 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC) and end on 26 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
 * Voting in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey will begin on 10 February 2023 and end on 24 February 2023. You can submit, discuss and revise proposals until 6 February 2023.
 * Tech tip: Syntax highlighting is available in both the 2011 and 2017 Wikitext editors. It can help make editing paragraphs with many references or complicated templates easier.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:37, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Bug in DRN tracker
In Template:DRN case status, section links are encoded with spaces instead of underscores, which are sometimes automatically corrected to  and creating broken links. However, this happens only on WP:DRN itself. Permalink of a revision which produced a broken link to the section "Al-Bayan (radio station)" in this revision of DRN. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 08:16, 20 January 2023 (UTC)


 * @LaundryPizza03 acknowledged, I'll try to take a look at this in the coming day or two. firefly  ( t · c ) 19:11, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @LaundryPizza03 had a look at this - it's fixable by swapping spaces for underscores, but then that results in rather ugly markup in the template... I'll have to see if there's a better solution :) firefly  ( t · c ) 18:15, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

FireflyBot
Hello, Firefly,

It looks like your bot is no longer posting CSD G13 5 month notices since last night. It stopped right after posting 101 notifications to BD2412's user talk page so I just want to make sure that the bot hasn't been shut down because of this flood of notices. I'm sure getting that many notices is annoying but FireflyBot's work is essential for new editors who might have forgotten about drafts they have started. Can you look into this? Thank you! Liz Read! Talk! 00:29, 9 February 2023 (UTC)


 * @Liz no, I'd not heard anything about the notice flood - I'll check and see what's going on. firefly  ( t · c ) 08:08, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
 * @Liz fixed :) firefly  ( t · c ) 18:15, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2023).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg The Wordsmith
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Fuhghettaboutit · Spinningspark (deceased)



CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Callanecc

Oversighter changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Callanecc

Guideline and policy news
 * Following a request for comment, F10 (useless non-media files) has been deprecated.
 * Following a request for comment, the Portal CSD criteria (P1 (portal subject to CSD as an article) and P2 (underpopulated portal)) have been deprecated.
 * A request for comment is open to discuss making the closing instructions for the requested moves process a guideline.

Technical news
 * The results of the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey have been posted.

Arbitration
 * Remedy 11 ("Request for Comment") of the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been rescinded.
 * The proposed decision for the Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case is expected 7 March 2023.
 * A case related to the Holocaust in Poland is expected to be opened soon.

Miscellaneous
 * The 2023 appointees for the Ombuds commission are AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, JJMC89, MdsShakil, Minorax and Renvoy as regular members and Zabe as advisory members.
 * Following the 2023 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Mykola7, Superpes15, and Xaosflux.
 * The Terms of Use update cycle has started, which includes a [p]roposal for better addressing undisclosed paid editing. Feedback is being accepted until 24 April 2023.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:19, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

ZaniGiovanni Comments
Hi @Firefly, (full disclosure, I also asked this on ToBeFree's talk page, but am messaging you also incase they're unavailable) I was wondering if it was appropriate for ZaniGiovanni to be commenting and adding diffs about other parties (I thought the evidence phase closed on 21 February?) in the talk page of Armenia-Azerbaijan 3/Proposed decision considering that the note at the top of the page clearly states "all editors must create a section for their statement and comment only in their own section." Thank you, – Olympian loquere</b> 01:58, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Linter down
Your very helpful Linter count page keeps returning "connection timed out" today. Notifying you in case you weren't aware and was something you were able to address. Zinnober9 (talk) 18:36, 13 February 2023 (UTC)


 * @Zinnober9 hmmm it seems to be working for me. What is the exact error you see? Thanks! firefly  ( t · c ) 20:42, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * It was non-reponsive, just timing out and not loading, for an hour or three earlier today. It is back now. A glitch in the matrix.... – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:51, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * It's working again now. The browser was returning a nonresponsive website error saying "connection timed out" for about an hour (that I was aware of). I guess it was just a server hiccup or something. Glad it sorted itself out, sorry if I bothered you. Zinnober9 (talk) 22:51, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Can you please restart the tool for german wikipedia As of 2023-02-25 07:15:21 it is frozen since yesterday, it seems like it only works for english pages without simple and all other languages. --Lómelinde (talk) 05:33, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Have you seen my request? The tool still does not work since 25th of february. --Lómelinde (talk) 06:12, 2 March 2023 (UTC)


 * @Lómelinde seems to be a stuck job, set it to delete so hopefully it should clear up and run successfully next time. firefly  ( t · c ) 14:00, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I hope so, it is much more comfortable to work when the tool shows what is changing. --Lómelinde (talk) 14:07, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Nothing has happened, it is still pending. --Lómelinde (talk) 05:28, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Moin Moin together from Germany ;), the counter isn't working, can anyone run it again? Regards --Crazy1880 (talk) 10:17, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Hallo firefly, the tool is still not working, can you please try again to restart it? In german project I can count the errors, because we are comming closer to the goal. But other wikiprojeckts with hundredthousands of errors will need the update, so do I think, more than german wp. Do you see a chance to make it run again? --Lómelinde (talk) 07:05, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Seems that the stuck job didn't clear properly, and resists all attempts to delete it! :) I've asked on IRC to see if one of the Toolforge admins can help out... firefly  ( t · c ) 08:17, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Now it is rumming, thank you very much. --Lómelinde (talk) 05:29, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Lómelinde all good :) firefly  ( t · c ) 11:49, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Incremental reminders
Hi! I mentioned but forgot to ping you at User_talk:Liz. Is there a reason the bot doesn't do five-month reminders when a draft is again up for deletion? For me it's a non issue - I'm an admin and looking at sources, there's still not enough so no point in restoring-but wondered if others run into this. Thanks either way! Star  Mississippi  23:36, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Revision deletion
Hello, Firefly,

I saw that you did a revision deletion on User talk:97.89.25.236 but you didn't remove any content you found objectionable. So, while no one can look at that edit, all of the content that was added to the talk page still remains. I'm not sure of the extent of the content you found inappropriate but you might remove or redact that content and then do a revision deletion of any intermediate edits. Thank you. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 23:22, 13 March 2023 (UTC)


 * @Liz woops - thanks Liz, fixed firefly  ( t · c ) 14:09, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Blocked editor breaching topic ban on their talk page
Hey. Reaching out to you as you're the editor who made the block indefinite after the first TBAN violation. Could you look at removing the talk page access of please? Twice today he has linked to tweets that violate his TBAN and in his first message he engaged in a mild personal attack and grave dancing about another recently TBANed editor. Sideswipe9th (talk) 18:10, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


 * this is done. Clearly no interest in editing it productively. Star   Mississippi  20:04, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you kindly Star Mississippi :) firefly  ( t · c ) 14:19, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:34, 18 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you! :) firefly  ( t · c ) 14:20, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2023).

Administrator changes
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 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg KillerChihuahua



CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Ferret

Guideline and policy news
 * A community RfC is open to discuss whether reports primarily involving gender-related disputes or controversies should be referred to the Arbitration enforcement noticeboard.

Technical news
 * Some older web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis starting this week. This mainly affects users of Internet Explorer 11.
 * The rollback of Vector 2022 RfC has found no consensus to rollback to Vector legacy, but has found rough consensus to disable "limited width" mode by default.
 * A link to the user's page will now appear in the subtitle links shown on . This was voted #17 in the Community Wishlist Survey 2023.

Arbitration
 * The Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case has been closed.
 * A case about World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been opened, with the first evidence phase closing 6 April 2023.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:11, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

reg Block
Hi, with reg to Module_talk:Political_party, I do not plan to make mass subs or any sub to be specific because some people are unhappy and the sub is against the pref of original entry, if that's how they wanted it to be. Can you please shorten/revoke the block as I would like to fix 2 pages in the namespace which breaks a link and another an active request. Thanks REEDriler (talk) 14:08, 9 April 2023 (UTC)


 * @REEDriler apologies for not seeing this sooner - the block has now expired, so this is somewhat irrelevant, but even so I wouldn't have lifted it as your comments at Module_talk:Political_party seemed combative rather than cooperative, and didn't speak to an understanding of why the block was necessary. Things like Another guy, with no interest in this module whatsoever, breaking links and I would rather enjoy fixing your mistake myself really aren't necessary. firefly  ( t · c ) 13:15, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I did enjoy it. Sorry for being expressive. REEDriler (talk) 13:38, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Question concerning Wikipedia's warn policy
In wikipedia's warn policy, it states, that before a user can motion a new warning to a user (lets call them JohnDoe2), that the recipient (JohnDoe2) of the previous one must have had the appropriate time to view it and react to the warning.

I'd like to know if the user had resumed vandalizing, but hadn't reacted to the warning, could it be appropriate to warn them again?

If there is no common or explanatory answer, than I can refer to a member of the Arbitration Committee instead.

BillClinternet (talk) 03:07, 18 April 2023 (UTC)


 * @BillClinternet - if a user is warned, and then resumes vandalising after the warning has been delivered then it's very common to warn again. Perhaps best not to deliver a fresh warning if the new edits are seconds after the old one, but if it's minutes later and the user resumes spamming "poop lol" then you can safely escalate the warning. firefly  ( t · c ) 11:35, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Royan journals
Hi, RE the Royan journals SPI you closed just now (thanks!), I noticed in the Royan Institute history another account,, which must be from the same farm. They've only made one edit, and that was last year, so it's probably dead, but the username is so obvious that you might as well block that, too, right? (I didn't want to add it to the SPI now that it's closed.) Thanks, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:57, 30 April 2023 (UTC)


 * @DoubleGrazing - done, no CU data but obviously connected behaviourally. firefly  ( t · c ) 16:06, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Jagged85 page move
Can you undo this page move by Jagged 85's sock? Thanks Srijanx22 (talk) 07:20, 23 April 2023 (UTC)


 * @Srijanx22 - that happened a long while ago, and I'm not familiar with the area so I don't feel confident wading in there unfortunately! firefly  ( t · c ) 16:07, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

FireflyBot
Hello, Firefly,

Going through recent CSD G13s, I noticed that none of the editors had 5 month notices posted to the draft creators' talk pages. When I checked FireflyBot's contributions, it looked like they stopped posting 5 month notices almost a month ago! Could you get it started again? I'm surprised that no one noticed that it stopped working on April 2nd. Please help! Thank you! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 02:50, 1 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello, Firefly,
 * Any idea when FireflyBot get back to notifying draft editors about their expiring drafts? I think it is one of the most important tasks a Wikipedia bot does as most of these drafts are created by new editors and the notices provide a lot of useful information. I hope it can start up again soon. Thanks. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 06:41, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Liz - fixed! Job had gotten stuck - the bot runs on an hourly trigger, and if one of those jobs fails to end cleanly the next one sometimes has trouble starting. firefly  ( t · c ) 07:56, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I should really check on it every few weeks to make sure it is running okay. I appreciate your help! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 08:18, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2023).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Spicy
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Ale jrb · Dbachmann · DGG (deceased) · Jimbo Wales



CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Jimbo Wales

Oversighter changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Jimbo Wales

Guideline and policy news
 * A request for comment about removing administrative privileges in specified situations is open for feedback.

Technical news
 * Progress has started on the Page Triage improvement project. This is to address the concerns raised by the community in their 2022 WMF letter that requested improvements be made to the tool.

Arbitration
 * The proposed decision in the World War II and the history of Jews in Poland case is expected 11 May 2023.

Miscellaneous
 * The Wikimedia Foundation annual plan 2023-2024 draft is open for comment and input through May 19. The final plan will be published in July 2023.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:22, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Special:LintErrors/large-tables
There seems to be something new, can you please add this lintercathegory to the tool? I have no clue what I should do to fix these errors jet. Lómelinde (talk) 08:47, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * See Wikipedia talk:Linter. This tracking flag should not be added to the table, at least not yet. There is no "fix" for this condition, and the Linter code is generating a lot of false positives at this time. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:34, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the information, I think it is deactivated now, but it will come back I fear. --Lómelinde (talk) 07:20, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Received and understood - reactivate the feature request if and when you want it :) firefly  ( t · c ) 08:26, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Lintertool
it has stopped working yesterday. Maybe the last softwareupdate or serverproblem. Please take a look. Lómelinde (talk) 10:55, 26 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Yup, still not updating. Hope it's something easy to correct. Zinnober9 (talk) 21:55, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * It is running now, seems to be confused with some database updates/resets. --Lómelinde (talk) 09:07, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * This was a WP:REPLAG problem that lasted for almost a week. The replicas are still catching up, so reports may be inaccurate for another few hours or a couple of days. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:34, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2023).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Ingenuity
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Ddstretch · Prodego · Resolute



CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Courcelles

Guideline and policy news
 * Following an RfC, editors indefinitely site-banned by community consensus will now have all rights, including sysop, removed.
 * As a part of the Wikimedia Foundation's IP Masking project, a new policy has been created that governs the access to temporary account IP addresses. An associated FAQ has been created and individual communities can increase the requirements to view temporary account IP addresses.

Technical news
 * Bot operators and tool maintainers should schedule time in the coming months to test and update their tools for the effects of IP masking. IP masking will not be deployed to any content wiki until at least October 2023 and is unlikely to be deployed to the English Wikipedia until some time in 2024.

Arbitration
 * The arbitration case World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been closed. The topic area of Polish history during World War II (1933-1945) and the history of Jews in Poland is subject to a "reliable source consensus-required" contentious topic restriction.

Miscellaneous
 * Following a community referendum, the arbitration policy has been modified to remove the ability for users to appeal remedies to.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:32, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Nitin Dubey (singer)
Just wondering how similar the current page is to the one you deleted? Mako001 (C) (T)  🇺🇦 23:44, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Unblock request of
At an SPI, this editor was blocked as a sockpuppet of Davomme. They state that they share a network with Davomme, but are different individuals. GereonGG has agreed to completely avoid any overlap whatsoever with Davomme's editing, so would you have any objection to an unblock with that condition? Seraphimblade Talk to me 16:28, 21 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @Seraphimblade no objections :) firefly  ( t · c ) 19:54, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry claim
Anuj Choudhary Ror and Rudradaman127 (talk) are making similar disruptive edits on Aror, are probably the same. Nirmohiji (talk) 06:20, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Help with Edit filter
Hi Firefly, can you lease take a look at this request? Thanks. – Ammarpad (talk) 09:21, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2023).



Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Novem Linguae
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Deckiller · Electionworld · MBisanz · Penwhale · Raul654 · Roadrunner · Viridae · Yannismarou

Bureaucrat changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg MBisanz

Guideline and policy news
 * Contributions to the English Wikipedia are now released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License (CC BY-SA 4.0) license instead of CC BY-SA 3.0. Contributions are still also released under the GFDL license.

Technical news
 * Discussion is open regarding a proposed global policy regarding third-party resources. Third-party resources are computer resources that reside outside of Wikimedia production websites.

Arbitration
 * Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the Scottywong case and 9 July 2023 for the AlisonW case.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:58, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Violence Against Women Act
Although I know you were acting in good faith, I have reverted edits you made to Violence Against Women Act, Domestic Abuse Restraining Order, and Domestic Violence Offender Gun Ban. All three edits involved removing an image that you have, separately, opened a discussion at regarding its removal. Although I may disagree with your reasons for wanting to delete the file, I am willing to work with the deletion process and, if the outcome of that process favors your position and not mine, cooperate with the decision that is made. In kind, however, I respectfully ask that you not jump the gun and delete this content from the associated Wikipedia pages until the discussion you started is allowed to run its course--and in that we will both need to be patient and wait out the process, which will take a week or more. Per COM:CSD we should not attempting the speedy deletion of this file, as it survived a prior deletion attempt, but if the regular deletion process does lead to it being deleted I will be cooperative with that. Again, in kind, I ask you to refrain from jumping the gun on this. Dash77 (talk) 03:44, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Summary cleanup
Hello, sorry for bothering you, but I saw your cleanup and figured I'd ask: Could you also hide the edit summary of the ones they did as an IP about a day ago? It was <this IP> in some of the same pages. – 2804:F14:808E:A601:F0B3:ED6F:D12C:B951 (talk) 09:13, 6 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Done! firefly  ( t · c ) 12:54, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2023).



Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Firefangledfeathers
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg AlisonW · Amberrock · Closedmouth · Scottywong

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Novem Linguae

Technical news
 * The tag filter on Special:NewPages and revision history pages can now be inverted. This allows hiding edits made by automated tools.
 * Special:BlockedExternalDomains is a new tool that allows easier blocking of plain domains (and their subdomains). This is more easily searchable and is faster for the software to use than the existing MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. It does not support regex (for complex cases), URL path-matching, or the MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist.

Arbitration
 * The arbitration cases named Scottywong and AlisonW closed 10 July and 16 July respectively.
 * The SmallCat dispute arbitration case is in the workshop phase.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:54, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Non-minor minor edits
I'm noting that the Firefly Bot marks edits like this one as minor. That seems vastly inappropriate, as it is adding a new notice to a page. It does not meet the word nor spirit of WP:MINOR. The "minor" option is there to tell people that you really needn't look at this, and what would be the point of putting a notice on a talk page if not to have people look at it? As such, I recommend altering the bot so that it doesn't mark such edits in such ways. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 22:11, 14 August 2023 (UTC)


 * @NatGertler - that's a fair point (although ultimately of limited practical importance). Now fixed for example in this latest edit. firefly  ( t · c ) 16:25, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! -- Nat Gertler (talk) 16:29, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Firefly Bot
Hey, Firefly,

I hope you are having a good summer. I'm running into more and more drafts where the article creator didn't receive a notice from Firefly Bot. I see that Firefly Bot is very active so that's not the problem. So, here's an example for you, Draft:Botswana Beast, no notice to the article creator. But I noticed that this article was moved from main space to Draft space.

Are these circumstances, a draft not created in Draft space, where Firefly Bot would skip giving a notice? I'll bring up other examples now that I'm noticing them more often and maybe I'll learn more about the parameters you've set up for the bot. I'd feel less worried about skipping notices but other admins who delete CSD G13s don't post deletion notices on the talk page of the draft creator when drafts are deleted so frequently Firefly Bot's notice is the only one the editor ever receives. Thank you. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 04:50, 3 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Liz just noting I've seen this and will take a look! firefly  ( t · c ) 09:03, 6 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey, Firefly,
 * I noticed the page creator didn't receive a 5 month notice from Firefly Bot for User:I. E. Sch./sandbox. I usually notice when there are red links to the editor's talk page because that means they didn't receive a notification. This editor has only made one edit so it's unlikely they would have edited their sandbox but I thought I'd ask about it. Thanks, I hope you are having a good summer. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 04:22, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Pppery · Theleekycauldron
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Dwheeler · G.A.S · Royalbroil · Ssd



CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Bradv

Oversighter changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Bradv

Guideline and policy news
 * Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
 * A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that [s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.

Technical news
 * Special:Contributions now shows the user's local edit count and the account's creation date.

Arbitration
 * The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged to note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.

Miscellaneous
 * Tech tip: The "Browse history interactively" banner shown at the top of Special:Diff can be used to easily look through a history, assemble composite diffs, or find out what archive something wound up in.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:21, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Content model change
Hi there! I'm requesting an admin to change the content model of Contents/gallery/styles.css to "Sanitized CSS" so I can style Contents/gallery with mobile responsiveness. Please remove the Admin help section before conversion. Thanks a lot! — PerfectSoundWhatever  (t; c) 20:45, 4 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @PerfectSoundWhatever Done! firefly  ( t · c ) 20:47, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Asking your opinion
Hello, Firefly. I'm interested in a long ongoing discussion at WT:BAN, about the plusses and minuses of blanking and tagging someone's user page when they are indeffed and/or banned. I noticed yesterday that you indeffed as a sock, but you didn't put any template on the user page. I'd be interested in your thoughts about why you didn't template. I assure you that I'm not questioning or finding fault with anything, and there's no right or wrong answer. I'm just collecting various opinions on the subject. Thanks! --Tryptofish (talk) 15:17, 19 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Tryptofish - hello! Whether to tag a blocked sock is very much a judgment call. Although the procedures (e.g. here) generally say to tag unless directed otherwise by a clerk or CU, it really depends on whether there is value to the tagging in terms of record-keeping - and if tagging sock userpages gives the sockmaster what they want in terms of building notoriety. Sometimes with VOA/obviously disruptive socks there's little value to keeping a neat taxonomy of them all as they are blindingly obvious and can be blocked on sight, whereas with other cases it can be useful to keep track of which socks are which. In this specific case, I probably should have tagged them, and would have if they came up at SPI. As it was I came across them independently, confirmed they were a sock and blocked through the interface in Special:CheckUser - which doesn't lend itself to easy tagging. I know (and appreciate!) you weren't questioning the lack of tags, but I will nonetheless do so at some point when I have a little more time for editing.
 * As to the discussion at WT:BAN, I tend to agree with Tamzin's position - arguing about ban tags is a waste of electrons, and such tags shouldn't be required if an admin etc has seen good reason not to place one. :) firefly  ( t · c ) 19:23, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for that thoughtful and informative answer. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:28, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Salt request
Can you please protect the titles Abhilash Pillai (film writer), Abhilash Pillai (writer) and Abhilash Pillai (screenwriter) atleast to extended confirmed. The socks of are continuously trying to create this. I had previously requested two times for salting the titles. But nobody took it seriously then. 202.164.137.22 (talk) 12:31, 23 September 2023 (UTC)


 * I think we can do a bit better than that IP202 - I'll add that string (Abhilash Pillai) to Mediawiki:Titleblacklist so it can't be created anywhere, given the extensive wasting of time here I think that's proportionate. firefly  ( t · c ) 17:24, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Old bot request
Hi. I understand that you're probably quite busy and this probably slipped through. But would you perhaps still have time for the task requested at /Archive 7, or should I try asking another bot operator to take it up? --Paul_012 (talk) 15:44, 28 August 2023 (UTC)


 * @Paul 012 I’m afraid I can’t promise I’ll get to it - if someone else is willing to write it I can run it as part of the same task. firefly  ( t · c ) 20:16, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't care. I know about it. MinecraftPlayer321 (talk) 00:56, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Makoons Play School
This sock is back with a new account, recreated Makoons Play School. It was at AfD when I saw it so recommended for speedy. Wondering if you could add the user to the list of the SPI and possibly even protect the page title from recreation. CNMall41 (talk) 20:41, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

CCI list mistake
Your CCI list here has two CCIs listed that should be removed: /Sandbox, and /118 Alex. /Sandbox was deleted in February and wasn't a real CCI, and /118 Alex was closed in July. – dudhhr talkcontribssheher 18:45, 5 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Dudhhr will take a look - thanks. firefly  ( t · c ) 19:17, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey, noting it here since it's the same table. I think there was a server hiccup on the 15th since this was down for a bit, but it looks like it hasn't updated since. I imagine you're already aware, but noting it here just in case you weren't. Wizardman  00:49, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Wizardman Hello! Yeah all the batch processes had a wobbly a few days ago - I need to dig into why at some point. Hopefully this weekend I'll have time for that. firefly  ( t · c ) 07:22, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Dudhhr@Wizardman - fixed, these stats should start updating again. firefly  ( t · c ) 18:36, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The tool still shows Sandbox, 118 Alex, and ILT, but this might just be my computer being silly. – dudhhr talkcontribssheher 18:41, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @Dudhhr Ah yes right those still need clearing. firefly  ( t · c ) 20:03, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Still showing last update 9-15-23 unless I'm missing something obvious. Wizardman  02:27, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Linter table is stuck and not updating
Bothering you about https://fireflytools.toolforge.org/linter/commonswiki and similar. The tables are stuck at 15 September and are not updating. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:33, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Same in de:wp, some days before the server was not available for two or three days. Today there should be a zero. I have no idea what the table would show than. --Lómelinde (talk) 09:59, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * , if you have a minute to restart the process that updates the Linter tables, that would be helpful. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:46, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Lómelinde@Jonesey95 - fixed, updates running. firefly  ( t · c ) 18:36, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:03, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, thank you very much. --Lómelinde (talk) 04:20, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2023).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Hey man im josh
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Alex Bakharev · CorbieVreccan · Cyphoidbomb · Davodd · Hog Farm · JamesR · KnightLago · Mark Ironie · Nosebagbear (deceased) · Rschen7754 · Tamzin · TonyBallioni



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 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Ferret · RickinBaltimore
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg TonyBallioni · Worm That Turned

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 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg RickinBaltimore
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Guideline and policy news
 * An RfC is open regarding amending the paid-contribution disclosure policy to add the following text: Any administrator soliciting clients for paid Wikipedia-related consulting or advising services not covered by other paid-contribution rules must disclose all clients on their userpage.

Technical news
 * Administrators can now choose to add the user's user page to their watchlist when changing the usergroups for a user. This works both via Special:UserRights and via the API.

Arbitration
 * Remedy 9 ("MarioProtIV topic ban") of the WikiProject Tropical Cyclones case has been rescinded.

Miscellaneous
 * The 2023 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process has concluded with the appointment of one new CheckUser.
 * Self-nominations for the electoral commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections opens on 2 October and closes on 8 October.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:41, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Linter "missing end tag in heading" error column missing from firefly report
At Special:LintErrors/missing-end-tag-in-heading, there is a list of Linter errors that should be listed on the table at https://fireflytools.toolforge.org/linter/enwiki. For some reason, the list is not linked from Special:LintErrors, but these are errors that need to be fixed. If it is possible to add this column to the table, that would be great. I checked this page's archives and do not see that I have already requested it; if so, my apologies, my memory is not great. See for some details. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:40, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

November Articles for creation backlog drive
<div style="border: 2px solid #484898; background: #FFF; background-color:#98FB98; padding: 1ex 1ex 1ex 1.5ex; margin: 0px 0px 1em 1em; font-size: 99%"> Hello Firefly:

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The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 2 months outstanding reviews from the current 4+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 November 2023 through 30 November 2023.

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Evlekis Sock
Well, it was pretty quick after you blocked Freescott, but is another sock of this guy. oknazevad (talk) 21:45, 4 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Oknazevad TBF beat me to it :) firefly  ( t · c ) 21:49, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You guys are good! oknazevad (talk) 21:49, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * And now we got IP 185.219.93.170 continuing the pattern. oknazevad (talk) 02:03, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2023).



Administrator changes
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 * The WMF is working on making it possible for administrators to edit MediaWiki configuration directly. This is similar to previous work on Special:EditGrowthConfig. A technical RfC is running until November 08, where you can provide feedback.
 * There is a proposed plan for re-enabling the Graph Extension. Feedback on this proposal is requested.

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 * Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
 * , and  have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee Elections.  is the reserve commissioner.
 * Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
 * Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
 * Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
 * Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
 * An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.

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 * The Articles for Creation backlog drive is happening in November 2023, with 700+ drafts pending reviews for in the last 4 months or so. In addition to the AfC participants, all administrators and New Page Patrollers can conduct reviews using the helper script, Yet Another AFC Helper Script, which can be enabled in the Gadgets settings. Sign up here to participate!

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:22, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * @Illusion Flame Thank you! :) firefly  ( t · c ) 21:02, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Protection on Talk:Oliver Emanuel
FWIW: You might consider upping the protection on Talk:Oliver Emanuel to extended confirmed. A recent "participant" (Hercules 765) is just of one of a few socks related to this article that have used their sandbox to game the auto-confirm system (see also Lumpy custard453). Or, I suppose you could leave it as is, and smoke out whatever cache of pre-confirmed socks they may have built up. signed, Willondon (talk) 22:29, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Willondon it seems to have died down for now, and yes smoking out XC socks is probably a good idea. firefly  ( t · c ) 09:18, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Re: your candidate statement
Re: — this has gotten bad enough I talked about it at length at WCNA this year! See slide 13 here: File:WCNA 2023 - L235 - Reflections on Eight Years at ArbCom.pdf. Best, KevinL ( aka L235 · t · c) 03:29, 15 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @L235 oooh interesting - yes I knew that it was something that some arbs felt had gotten to a point where it was impacting efficiency. If lucky enough to be elected I'm sure there's some solutions we can push for - case management systems cannot be beyond the wit and will of the WMF to provide, or ours to build. firefly  ( t · c ) 09:19, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Firefly Bot
Hello, Firefly,

I hope you are well. I thought I'd start a new discussion so this didn't get lost in the old discussion above. We just had a report issued, here, of a G13 soon report for next week that has a higher than average number of expiring drafts. The G13 reports typically list between 150-200 drafts/day and this one has over 300 drafts. When I looked into it, many of these drafts seem to be articles by Lugnuts where it was decided at the Village Pump to move them from main space to Draft space. But when I looked at Lugnuts' User talk page, there wasn't a single Firefly Bot notice despite there being about hundred expiring drafts they created.

Of course, it doesn't matter as the editor is currently blocked from using the platform but it raises the question: Does Firefly Bot skip drafts that weren't created in Draft or User space but moved to Draft space later through draftification? It might explain a few examples where it skips notification if it did. Thanks for any insight you can provide. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 20:17, 16 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Liz! Lugnuts' userpage has  at the top, which prevents bots from editing it. :)  firefly  ( t · c ) 21:00, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Firefly Bot
Hey, Firefly,

I noticed the draft creator didn't get a notification regarding Draft:Garbage feeding. Any idea why? I couldn't find any standard explanation like the draft had been deleted before and recreated. Just checking. Thanks. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 04:12, 22 October 2023 (UTC)


 * I also noticed that no CSD G13 5 month notice was posted about Draft:Sara Weiss to the draft creator's (User:Gamaliel's) User talk page. It doesn't look like there was a previous version of this draft that was deleted before that would have prevented a notice from being posted. I usually notice these Firefly Bot lapses when there is a red link to the draft creator's talk page which means that the editor has received no talk page messages and also notice that the draft hasn't been created and deleted before. But this time, the page creator is an active editor, not a new editor, so it seems like an even more striking lapse. Any ideas why this sometimes happens? Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 21:31, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Liz same with this one - Gamaliel has a "nobots" template on their userpage :) firefly  ( t · c ) 21:03, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
 * As for "Garbage feeding", it seems that it's already gone through the G13 window once, an edit was made, and so the bot thinks it's already left a notification. That's an edge case that I should probably get around to fixing at some point... firefly  ( t · c ) 21:07, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

614
Thank you! I was getting banhammer elbow! <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 19:36, 21 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @HJ Mitchell most welcome! Seems like a particularly persistent social media nonsense campaign - any idea where it came from? firefly  ( t · c ) 19:45, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Not a clue! Could be Reddit or somewhere like that but it seemed to start very suddenly! As mass attacks go, though, it's at the annoying rather than harmful end of the spectrum. <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 19:49, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Seems like some live podcast this time. DatGuyTalkContribs 19:51, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Ahaaa - thanks, at least we know now! firefly  ( t · c ) 21:05, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

CCI stats
Hello. I thought I let you know that Firefly Tools hasn't updated the CCI stats since September. I was wondering if this could get updated, or if something is preventing an update. Thanks! MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 23:48, 11 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @MrLinkinPark333 I think it just needs tweaking to deal with a change in something on toolforge. I keep forgetting to look at it - thanks for bringing it up the list, I’ll try to get to it this week :) firefly  ( t · c ) 21:02, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for looking into it! MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:04, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Any update on this? Thanks, Wizardman  04:20, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Wizardman@MrLinkinPark333 - it’s something to do with toolforge and/or pywikibot changes leading to the system that collects the data not being able to log in. I was able to figure this much out but haven’t had the focus time to actually fix it - I’ll try to find some in the next few days. :) firefly  ( t · c ) 09:29, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @MrLinkinPark333@Wizardman after your message I had a "huh... what if it's just..." thought, which turned out to be correct. It's now fixed and running - will be up to date shortly (and will run on a schedule as before). firefly  ( t · c ) 09:42, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

November thanks
Thank you for standing to become arbitrator! My story today is Canticle I: My beloved is mine and I am his, - the composer, born OTD 110 years ago, didn't want it shorter (but the publisher), - more here. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:52, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for a reply to my cand question. I may discuss it after tomorrow's concert when we will sing the Mozart and listen to Pärt's urgent call for peace played by the strings, - I'm not in the mood before ;) - I mentioned Pärt for a reason, could have been Beethoven as well, in other words: I believe it's time for a fresh look, as we were told 10 years ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:35, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Gerda Arendt you’re welcome. Enjoy the concert! :) firefly  ( t · c ) 09:30, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I made it my story today, the text in Mozart's handwriting on that page says "fac eas, Domine, de morte transire ad vitam", tough to translate: make them go over from death to life, perhaps. Its very emotional. - I sang in the performance mentioned, DYK? Then, the Requiem was coupled with Bach's Ich will den Kreuzstab gerne tragen, BWV 56. Today, we'll listen to the strings playing Pärt's Fratres (to begin, then the Requiem without a break), and then Da pacem Domine, leading into the Agnus Dei. - We don't just sing a concert, we remember the dead. One of my relatives who died was born on 26 November; when he was a young man he would answer a phone call saying "Mozart". It's a deep kind of joy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:44, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Regarding your reply: "the formerly boiling disputes", you say, and I don't know exactly what you mean, can you please point me at one instance of a "boiling" battle? I met the disputes in 2012, for Samuel Barber, where I opposed for redundancy, but understood within a day that the redundancy serves readers with different needs. A year later we had discussions about the (then new) infobox opera; look at example Siegfried (opera): I'd describe it as cordial, but the arbitrators of 2013 admonished the three of us a few weeks later, - I have no idea where they looked. Brian Boulton added a compromise to Chopin as a RfC result in 2015. I thought that would settle the disputes, dreamer that I am ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:19, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Today: in memoriam Jerome Kohl who said (In Freundschaft): "and I hope that they have met again in the beyond and are making joyous music together" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:04, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

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Pixmap Article
We have a website named pixmap, and i trying to create a wiki page for it, some enemies trying to delete our page, please help us, i see you reverted it. Bayardaaa (talk) 19:33, 2 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Bayardaaa you say "you" have a website. As the site is yours, you have a conflict of interest, and are strongly advised not to create or edit the article for the site. Regardless, the website does not appear to be notable (i.e. has not been widely covered in independent, reliable sources), and therefore does not qualify for an article. firefly  ( t · c ) 19:36, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Cooperative Institute for Mesoscale Meteorological Studies → Cooperative Institute for Severe and High-Impact Weather Research and Operations
Renaming proposed: since the CIMMS has been absorbed into the new "Cooperative Institute for Severe and High-Impact Weather Research and Operations" on October 1, 2021, shouldn't the article name be changed accordingly? Please give your advice at discussion. Pierre cb (talk) 15:41, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2023).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Ganesha811 · JPxG
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 * Following a talk page discussion, the Administrators' accountability policy has been updated to note that while it is considered best practice for administrators to have notifications (pings) enabled, this is not mandatory. Administrators who do not use notifications are now strongly encouraged to indicate this on their user page.

Arbitration
 * Following a motion, the Extended Confirmed Restriction has been amended, removing the allowance for non-extended-confirmed editors to post constructive comments on the "Talk:" namespace. Now, non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace solely to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided that their actions are not disruptive.
 * The Arbitration Committee has announced a call for Checkusers and Oversighters, stating that it will currently be accepting applications for CheckUser and/or Oversight permissions at any point in the year.
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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:53, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Happy holidays!
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:#FF4646; background-color:#F6F0F7; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:7px; border-radius:1em; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);;" class="plainlinks">Happy Holidays text.png Hello Firefly: Enjoy the holiday season&#32;and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:45, 9 December 2023 (UTC) Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:45, 9 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @MrLinkinPark333 Thank you! firefly  ( t · c ) 09:53, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Bot and DRN Status Template
I think that your bot has stopped updating the DRN case status template as of 0600 GMT, 18 December. That is the date of the latest update to the table. There are two new cases, one of which should have a status of New, and one of which I closed because the filer didn't list the other editors. The bot is running, because it is identifying five-month-old drafts and notifying their creators, so either it has stopped that task, or there is something in DRN that makes it sick. If the problem is in the content of the noticeboard, it would have to do with the La Salida case that was filed at 2048 GMT, 18 December, which was the first update that wasn't reported by the bot. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:08, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Robert McClenon Hmmmm how odd. I’ll take a look at some point this week. firefly  ( t · c ) 23:35, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Any updates? Victor Schmidt (talk) 11:43, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Robert McClenon@Victor Schmidt - sorry, been busy with Christmas things. Fixed, needed to be switched over to the new Kubernetes job system. firefly  ( t · c ) 12:22, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * It's working now. Thank you.  Robert McClenon (talk) 23:11, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

A solstice greeting
<div style="border:2px solid gold; box-shadow: 0 1px 3px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.35); background: linear-gradient(to bottom, #FCFCFC 0%,#F5F5F5 100%); text-align:center; padding:24px; border-radius:7px; width:75%; line-height:2em;"> ❄️Happy holidays!❄️

Hi Firefly! I'd like to wish you a splendid solstice season as we wrap up the year. Here is an artwork, made individually for you, to celebrate. Looking forward more good discussions on Discord in the coming year! Take care, and thanks for all you do to make Wikipedia better!Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb }&#125;  talk

&#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 06:36, 24 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you @Sdkb :) firefly  ( t · c ) 14:55, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * User:Sdkb - In response to the comment about the Southern Hemisphere, an editor who is in the southern hemisphere can view the image as being of Antarctica. The sun is shining on the snow (24 hours a day), which it isn't at the North Pole in December.  Robert McClenon (talk) 23:19, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Linter table needs updates after MW code change
If you have time, the Linter tables like this one need link updates after some MediaWiki code changes. The links that are supposed to go to specific namespaces have changed. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:LintErrors/bogus-image-options?namespace=0 used to point to bogus image options in article space. That link is now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:LintErrors/bogus-image-options?wpNamespaceRestrictions=0&titlecategorysearch=&exactmatch=1&tag=all&template=all and every other link in the table needs similar adjustment.

Also, the Linter error group Special:LintErrors/missing-end-tag-in-heading is missing from the Linter table entirely. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:07, 26 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Jonesey95 - link change made! I'll need to do some digging for the additional group... firefly  ( t · c ) 13:10, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Very helpful, thank you. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:38, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

2024 Arbitration Committee
The Arbitration Committee welcomes the following new and returning arbitrators following their election by the community. The two-year terms of these arbitrators formally begin on 1 January 2024:

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We also thank our outgoing colleagues whose terms end on 31 December 2023:

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 * Stewards are requested to remove the permission(s) noted from the following outgoing arbitrators, who have not elected to retain them, after 31 December 2023:
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 * Outgoing arbitrators are eligible to remain active on cases opened before their term ended if they wish. Whether or not outgoing arbitrators will remain active on any ongoing case(s) will be noted on the proposed decision talk page of affected case(s).
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ACE2023 congratulations
Hello Firefly, you have been elected to the arbitration committee! The results of the election are available here: Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023. You will likely be contacted by the existing committee for onboarding. Best regards, — xaosflux  Talk 01:43, 30 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Congratulations, Firefly! And good luck with all of those email messages! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 05:56, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Liz@Xaosflux thank you both! :) firefly  ( t · c ) 09:56, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

December music
Today's story is about Maria Callas, on her centenary. - Aaron Copland died OTD, and Jerome Kohl (mentioned in November) said something wise on Copland's talk, - yes, regarding a soft(er) stance towards infoboxes. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:40, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Did you check out the history of the infobox of Callas? Compare Jessye Norman, Kathleen Ferrier and Jenny Lind. Did you check out the history of Copland? Compare Max Reger, Max Beckschäfer, Colin Mawby (from today's story), and Benjamin Britten (who died OTD). What's the difference? If what you see changes your answer to my question, feel free to change, and ping me. I would like to see a way to avoid in the future hundreds of editors commenting on Mozart RfCs, just to kind of restore the infobox he had. Happy new era ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:20, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Today, I managed to get the pics to snow (on 28 Nov), and heard a lovely concert, after listening to a miracle of meditative dreaming on 6 December (or just click on music). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 8 December 2023 (UTC)n

... and today, to Paris (29 Nov) with a visit to the Palais Garnier, - to match the story of Medea Amiranashvili, - don't miss listening to her expressive voice. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:56, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Happy new era, likewise @Gerda Arendt :) firefly  ( t · c ) 12:05, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! - My story today is about Michael Robinson, - it's an honour to have known him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:57, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Pics up to 3 December (with my shadow in one of them), and a story about Beethoven in memory of his birth. When the arb who wrote the infoboxes case - in 2015! - I hoped these infobox wars were over, really. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:55, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Today, I have a special story to tell, of the works of a musician born 300 years ago. Don't miss the pictured doggie! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:03, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Congratulations to your election! - I uploaded more pics, with Christmas trees and related artworks, and I have two women on the Main page (for a sad reason). Our Christmas singing (of my user's infobox music "singen, singen") was pictured! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:57, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2024
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 * Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that were enacted in June 2009.
 * The arbitration case Industrial agriculture has been closed.

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2024
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Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

[[User talk:Gerda Arendt#2024|Happy New Year

2024]] Same location pictured as 2019. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:53, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:16, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Today a friend's birthday, with related music and new vacation pics --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:24, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).

Administrator changes
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 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Ameliorate! · Ancheta Wis · Anthony Bradbury (deceased) · Cobi · Ev · Moondyne · Worm That Turned

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Guideline and policy news
 * An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.

Technical news
 * Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size.

Arbitration
 * Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
 * Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.

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 * Voting in the 2024 Steward elections will begin on 06 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 27 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
 * A vote to ratify the charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open till 2 February 2024, 23:59:59 (UTC) via Secure Poll. All eligible voters within the Wikimedia community have the opportunity to either support or oppose the adoption of the U4C Charter and share their reasons. The details of the voting process and voter eligibility can be found here.
 * Community Tech has made some preliminary decisions about the future of the Community Wishlist Survey. In summary, they aim to develop a new, continuous intake system for community technical requests that improves prioritization, resource allocation, and communication regarding wishes. Read more
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User:Firefly-blocktesting
Hello, Firefly,

You posted a note on this User page claiming this is your alternative account but you didn't register it. So, it is showing up as a nonexistent user and typically we deleted those pages. Could you create an account with this username or at least put a redirect on it? Otherwise it is open to deletion, CSD U2. Thank you. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 04:13, 8 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi Liz! Yeah this is an odd one - I created that user account so that and I could test some oddities related to suppress-blocks (where a user account is blocked, all their edits oversighted, and the account's appearance in logs also oversighted). As the account is suppress-blocked, it appears as "non existent". To avoid confusion / polluting maintenance lists I've deleted the user page.  firefly  ( t · c ) 09:37, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * It might be useful in the future for other things, so I've unblocked. Primefac (talk) 18:40, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Linter "Missing end tag in heading" error
This is a reminder that Missing end tag in heading would be helpful on the Linter/firefly table. It was recently added to Special:LintErrors in the "low priority" section. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:42, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).

Administrator changes
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 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg East718 · Isabelle Belato · Mzajac · Staecker · Stan Shebs · Sugarfish · Tamzin



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Guideline and policy news
 * Phase I of the 2024 RfA review is now open for participation. Editors are invited to review, comment on, and propose improvements to the requests for adminship process.
 * Following an RfC, the inactivity requirement for the removal of the interface administrator right increased from 6 months to 12 months.

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 * The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages.

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 * The 2024 appointees for the Ombuds commission are だ＊ぜ, AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Doǵu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, MdsShakil, Minorax, Nehaoua, Renvoy and RoySmith as members, with Vermont serving as steward-observer.
 * Following the 2024 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Ajraddatz, Albertoleoncio, EPIC, JJMC89, Johannnes89, Melos and Yahya.

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Query
Coincident with a checkuser block, you reverted a COI question at Nihonjoe's talk page. Would you consider reinstating it? Nihonjoe had responded to the same user's previous inquiry along the same lines. Yngvadottir (talk) 00:03, 4 March 2024 (UTC)


 * @Yngvadottir - the account in question is a sock belonging to a long-term abuser, and as such I reverted as I would any other LTA account messing about in 'project internals'. That said, is entirely free to restore the comment if they feel they would like to answer it.  firefly  ( t · c ) 15:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hi Firefly,

Thanks for letting me know about the autopatrolled user right. I’ll try to live up to it!

T. E. Meeks (talk) 13:19, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

 * Happy Adminship Anniversary, Firefly! We are so lucky to have you helping out the project! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 06:43, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Small question about a block
I looked and looked and couldn't figure this out. A few weeks ago you checkuserblocked Mother of Jabbas with the rationale "BKH / AttackTheMoonNow." What does BKH stand for? <b style="font-family: Segoe Script;"> City o f  Silver </b> 18:35, 12 March 2024 (UTC)


 * @City of Silver - hello! That refers to Sockpuppet_investigations/Brian K Horton - should probably have linked the SPI in the block summary, but I was working quickly :) firefly  ( t · c ) 19:30, 12 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for this. I don't fault you at all for using that shorthand. <b style="font-family: Segoe Script;"> City o f  Silver </b> 19:31, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Firefly Bot
I thought I'd check on the bot and it stopped posting CSD G13 5 month notices on March 8th. Can you get it up and going again? Many thanks! It is providing a valuable service to content creators. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 06:43, 11 March 2024 (UTC)


 * @Liz - fixed! Was an issue with Toolforge. And thank you for the message above too :) firefly  ( t · c ) 22:20, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah! I'm glad I checked. I have it on my calendar to check Firefly Bot twice monthly to make sure those CSD G13 messages are going out. No problem with the bot but there can be problems on WMF's side. Thank you for fixing the issues. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I
Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:


 * Proposal 2, initiated by, provides for the addition of a text box at Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
 * Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by and, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
 * Proposal 5, initiated by, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
 * Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
 * Proposal 7, initiated by, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
 * Proposal 9b, initiated by, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
 * Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by, , and , respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
 * Proposal 13, initiated by, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
 * Proposal 14, initiated by, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
 * Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by and, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
 * Proposal 16e, initiated by, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
 * Proposal 17, initiated by, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
 * Proposal 18, initiated by, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
 * Proposal 24, initiated by, provides for a more robust alternate version of the optional candidate poll.
 * Proposal 25, initiated by, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
 * Proposal 27, initiated by, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
 * Proposal 28, initiated by, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.

To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via:

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Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:48, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Template: DRN case status
The bot has stopped updating the case status. It is notifying editors of expiring drafts, but that is a different task. Does the code need to be stopped and restarted?

Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:05, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
 * It's working now. Thank you.

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