User talk:Firsfron/Archive 13

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I used to get these automated yellow new message bars with warnings that I had changed some pages even though I hadn't ever changed anything on this site.

Triceratops image
Hi, I just flipped this image around, so it could face the text in the Triceratops article (and it seems that the original uncleaned image faced left too), but now the background suddenly turned blue. Do you know what's wrong? FunkMonk (talk) 17:03, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I used Photoshop, while thinking that nothing else would be altered. Could you maybe replace the file with a flipped version which is also transparent? And how do you make it transparent in the first place? FunkMonk (talk) 18:55, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks! What programme did you use? FunkMonk (talk) 19:12, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh, you know
I had a lot of hard times going on. I may go back to editing as 'myself'. I may not. I prefer to stay quiet and keep out of trouble, when I can... (smirk)

Anyway, next time you're doing some major article work, hit me up. I've still got all my luverly resources and personal library, and full LexisNexis if you need a journal or something. --AmusedRepose (talk) 18:00, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm going to start going over articles for copy edits, and I have a stack of articles -- new ones -- to put in. And I haven't really been behaving, as you can see. :p --AmusedRepose (talk) 15:04, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I like you.
Because you share my passion for apostrophe's and dinosaurs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.24.175 (talk) 22:06, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Just wondering
Hey First :) CharlieSierra (Chris) here. I was just wondering... Are there such things as paid Wikipedia editors, and how does someone join their ranks?

Thanks. :)

CharlieSierra (talk) 07:03, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to bring up an old topic....
Sorry to bring up an old topic, but I was bored tonight, and glancing back through my old edits I came across my attempt at third party mediation over at Sheriff (company). Alas, my mediation failed horribly, and I put in a lot of effort for nothing. It appears that both users involved in that edit warring have since been blocked multiple times and/or banned. Unfortunately, the article on Sheriff which we both attempted to mediate their dispute over is still in shabby shape. I don't want to jump in and edit it... but my compromise piece from my attempt at mediation seems to me to be far superior to the current state of things. I also don't have a clue why it wasn't adopted in the first place. I was just wondering... do you see any reason why I shouldn't re-write the article with the compromise piece, editting merely to add in the pictures now available? I hate to see such a short stubby article on the mainspace when what I personally believe to be a much better version is just sitting on the talkpage. Thanks. -- PEPSI2786 talk 05:54, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and threw it up there. If it gets chopped away again in some silly revert, I swear, I'm never looking at that article, or any other article relating to Transnistria ever again. ;) Thanks. -- PEPSI2786 talk 23:10, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Wacky Waters Adventure Park
A tag has been placed on Wacky Waters Adventure Park requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company or corporation, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for companies and corporations.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 05:10, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Rollo Smokes's New Username
Firsfron, I know that you have recently banned the user RolloSmokes last month. However, he is at it again of creating these "edit wars," the same that he was in when he was banned. The edit war he had with me is the logo on the WPIX page, although he tries to pose as someone else. I was able to tell because of an image he uploaded that was on the same file, which was, which no longer exists. The username is Runteldat, and as you can see in the activity, it all started a few days after he was banned. --Liradio (talk) 08:44, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I have marked that user's userpage and talkpage with a template. -  NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • November 15, 2008 @ 10:06

Rollo's gone rogue
Per Requests for checkuser/Case/Runteldat--two socks, one of which was a sleeper created a week after you indef'd him. Highly disturbing, I think. Blueboy96 14:05, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * What concerned me more was the fact one of them was a sleeper--something about sleeper accounts rubs me the wrong way. Blueboy96 13:25, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * An updated checkuser shows it is possible that Rollo has yet another sock. I am keeping an eye on it, but I thought I would keep you up-to-date on what is going on. -  NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • November 19, 2008 @ 10:08


 * a fine Xmas message for all of us to be mindful of.... hehehe. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:52, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Onza
An article that you have been involved in editing, Onza, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/Onza. Thank you. --Tombstone (talk) 08:16, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Man Against Crime
Thanks for cleaning up the article. Looks good. :) &#0149;Jim 62 sch&#0149; dissera! 21:21, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Pterosaurs format
Hey, I'm working on a revamp for the List of pterosaurs and I've been experimenting with a slightly different format for displaying the images in relation to the table because the way I had been doing it previously interfered with the tables' sorting function. If you could check out this section on the page and tell me how it looks compared to the other tables and get back to me, I'd be very grateful. Abyssal (talk) 18:58, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Meh, I worked it out, but I meant for you to compare the Q-Z section's style of displaying images with that of the rest of the article. Abyssal (talk) 20:50, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Could you swing by...?
Could you possibly swing by Moytoy I and have a look at an ongoing dispute there? I'll admit the article is lacking, but User:Natty4bumpo just showed up and deleted the entire article without at least providing references as to why. At the very least, I'd like to see some sort of article with references showing why he believes the man never existed. I reverted his most recent bout of edits (deleting the entire content of the article), and was hoping you could help mediate a bit. Thanks. -- PEPSI2786 talk 17:14, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

THE AMERICAN METROSEXUAL 22:37, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of Kahokuohua Information
I noticed that you deleted the page for Kahokuohua (details below)

02:13, 30 June 2008 Firsfron (Talk | contribs) deleted "Kahokuohua" ‎ (G7: One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page)

Do you have information on why this was done? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.150.192.90 (talk) 22:04, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Funny typo
Check out the misspelling of Diplodocus in William Jacob Holland. Or maybe it's supposed to be a new type of infectious bacteria! Sheep81 (talk) 09:15, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Automatic Grammar Improvements
I am writing regarding your apparently automatic replacement of "due to the fact that" with "because." While it is often a good idea to replace the periphrastic "due to the fact that" with the slightly shorter "because," this does not actually work in all sentences, and you should not do it automatically without reading the whole sentence. You have done this twice now on the Leprechaunism article, even after it was reverted once before by a native speaker of English. Please stop changing it there. If it really bothers you, rework the whole sentence so that it works correctly with "because."

Thanks. I do appreciate your efforts to improve the grammar and style of the article.

Bryce (talk) 06:15, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I've read the entire sentence in question twice (I try to avoid sentences where it won't make sense), and the "due to the fact that" there is clumsy and poorly-written. Per your suggestion, I've re-worked the entire sentence, but reverting back to bad grammar doesn't make any sense to me. Finally, there's the issue of the reference at the end of that sentence, which cannot be verified, and probably should be replaced. Since you obviously care for this article, I shall leave that up to you. Best wishes and happy editing, Firsfron of Ronchester  19:57, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Plagiarism
Another user seems to have mistaken me for an admin, so I thought I'd forward his message to you. -- PEPSI2786 talk 23:51, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


 * How do I report plagiarism on a Wikipedia article? The first line of the article on "Atheism" is nearly identical to the opening sentence of Austin Cline's article on Atheism on about.com, barely paraphrased, without clear attribution.  I've changed it enough to have the same meaning without being too close to Cline's sentence but other editors keep reverting my change.  I didn't think removing plagiarism was something that needed to be debated. Chuck Hamilton (talk) 20:03, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


 * FYI: That question was mostly for future reference. Things got worked out on the Talk page of that article. Chuck Hamilton (talk) 02:53, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Deleting of "Dr. Ray O Johnson" page
Hello Firsfron, The copyrighted material that you are refering to at "http://www.sei.cmu.edu/community/mm/rjohnsonbio.html" is the public domain biography for Dr. Ray O Johnson that you will find on many other pages across the web. Being the CTO for a large company, he makes speeches at several events and this bio is provided as public domain info. It often times winds up on the event pages all over the web. Taking the advice of PMDrive1061 who initially deleted the page, I have rewritten sections, added references, and additional material to the page. Would you please reinstating the page? Thank you. Handsfreemute (talk) 18:10, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Images
Looking over all the rules for uploading, creating, etc., of images, I feel like I need a lawyer just to understand it. It's almost as if Wikipedia is trying to discourage people from uploading images. Chuck Hamilton (talk) 18:15, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks - Dr. Ray O Johnson
Thanks for your input. I have created a new page with a rewrite of the information. It is frustrating that I wrote the original material that is being used across the net and by some sites with copywrite on it. But I understand that you are following the rules. I need one more favor. Can you please delete the page that I created called "Dr ray o johnson". I didn't realize that I had the title in lower case. Thanks in advance! Handsfreemute (talk) 00:44, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

radioactive user talk page...
Here, have one of these - 50k and five years...wow. congrats. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

PS: WP:Birds just had their 100th Recognised thingy..and is quite active, you might think about Hesperornis, Ichthyornis, Rahonavis or even Diatryma or Phorusrhacos for a project..all paleontological and alot of bird dudes to look in ...sorta like "killing two birds with one stone" (...aah I crack myself up sometimes XD ( Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually Hesperornis is looking pretty well-developed (which is good), equally (for the amibtious), Phorusrhacos is notable in its poorer quality...Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:37, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of Nina Scolnik
Did you not see the 'hangon' notice I added to this page? You should have waited before deleting it, or at least contacted me. -- Donald Albury 19:31, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Euparkeria WWD.jpg)
Thanks for uploading File:Euparkeria WWD.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 05:20, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Quewrons
im new to posting...

you have deleted a page named quewrons, could you plz tell me the problems in it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nack.nakd (talk • contribs) 14:28, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

sad notice
Since you were the first to post messages to the talk page, I wanted to let you know of this — Ched ~ (yes?)/© 01:09, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Chickamauga wars
Something's wrong with the page; it doesn't load all the way. Chuck Hamilton (talk) 22:11, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Darren Tanke
I have nominated Darren Tanke, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Darren Tanke. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. ike9898 (talk) 20:48, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Rajasaurus
Hi! Firsfron, Thanks for noting my articile expansion. But there is already a tag on it for improvment. Will you plase help me in this task.? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nvvchar (talk • contribs)

Rajasaurus
Hi, Firsfron,

My maiden effort on a dinosaur article has put me in contact with an eminent person on this subject who has contributed very richly on Wikipedia. My purpose of writing this article, as a novice in the field, was to highlight the Indian Rajasaurus to wikicommunity hrough the DYK main page. In this regard, you and other members of the team who have edited the article have to be thanked by me for the patient and meticulous way of the editing done. The tag has been removed and the article now reads very technical and highly informative. I had also posted this article on DYK on the same day. But now its expansion length may not qualify it for DYK.

Incidentally, I had made a photo ( from a GSI site) of the Fibreglass model installed in GSI office at Lucknow and had uploaded it on wikicommons. I have not included it in the article since it has now been posted for deletion due to a copy right issue. Whenever I get a chance to go to Lucknow I should be able to take a picture and post it on the artcile on wikipedia in the near future. The model also looks impressive. Once again my sincere thanks and deep sense of gratitude to you for patiently editing my contributions (if you have not considered as an unwarranted intrusion) to your original article and bringing it to a nice shape. Regards.--Nvvchar (talk) 05:40, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * You may find the information at the following web sites of interst on the above subject.

http://wikimapia.org/780195/DINASOUR-FOSSIL-SITE-ONE-OF-THE-THREE-LARGEST-IN-THE-WORLD-BALASINORE

http://www.indusladies.com/forums/gujarat/47293-dinosaur-fossils-excavated-raiyoli-near.html

http://news4u.co.in/?p=12683

Balasinore is near Rhioli.--Nvvchar (talk) 09:29, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I have made changes in two sentences of the artcile, one in the first para and the other in the History section, to comply with the observations made under the DYK Hook. Please see if it is OK. Thanks.--Nvvchar (talk) 05:06, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Admin Coaching
I saw that you were listed on the admin coaching status page, and was wondering if you would coach me. If not, could you please update you status on the page? Thanks,  Genius  101 Guestbook  19:41, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

semi protection of nitrogen
I noticed you semi protected Nitrogen indefinitely. I think indef was a little too much, and I suggest 3 months, because although a lot of vandalism occurs with IP addresses, there are some good ones out there, and they are being restricted because of what the bad ones did. If it starts again, protect it for another 3 months. That is what I have seen other admins do. Since you are an admin I will respect any decision you make, but I would like an explanation because I am still learning about policies here. Please leave a talkback at my talk page if you reply here. Thanks, Griffinofwales (talk) 21:20, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

And I just noticed that at the top of your talk page is Wikipedia's slogan, The free encyclopedia anyone can edit (that includes IP addresses). You may have a good reason so I am not going to pursue the subject. But please explain your indef. Griffinofwales (talk) 21:24, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

I understand that IP vandalism is really bad here at WP (I use Huggle sometimes), and I don't want IPs having fun with articles. That is why we have blocks. I propose to you (since you are the admin that instigated the semi-protection) that you unprotect the page and I will watch it. If IP vandalism resumes, I will revert it and report it to you so you can semi-protect the page (for 3-6 months?). I know this causes a lot of trouble for both of us, but I do not like indef protection for an article. I will go with your decision, and leave it at that. Griffinofwales (talk) 03:19, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
 Genius  101 Guestbook  12:05, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

My work on Play of the Week
You're most welcome and my thanks to you for taking the time to send such a kind note of appreciation. Encouragement is always welcome and, in view of my modest (and still unfinished) effort on Play of the Week, I also thank you, in turn, for your monumental multi-year contributions to the compendium of knowledge regarding paleontology and, of course, the history of early TV programs. Now, those explorations into the past are projects truly worthy of praise!&mdash;Roman Spinner (talk) 07:54, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

you can help!
yeah, this is random and stalkerish, but trust me when I have a reason for asking. where do you live/edit? (City and country would be nice, but whatever you feel comfortable telling is fine.) You can just shoot me an email or reply here. It's for a project, I'll let you see it when I'm finished :) -- Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 14:07, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Liopleurodon
Hi Firsf, there is an edit war going on on the Liopleurodon article concerning Charlie the Unicorn. Darimoma keeps inserting a paragraph about it to assert the notability of the youtube video which I and others think is not legitimate. Could you have a look at it? Thanks. ArthurWeasley (talk) 04:01, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking into this. Don' worry I know better than breaking the 3RR rule, that's why I've started a discussion on the talk page, send a note to Darimoma and ask the assistance of my two favorite administrators. As for socketpuppetry, I don't know, are you referring to the single entry by User:KitKatsAreYum? I think this is just an isolated event and not really an area of concern. Cheers. ArthurWeasley (talk) 15:27, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

universal - wide consensus on Dinosaurs
Thanks, I think your wording is much better. I read a lot about Dinosaurs in magazines and periodicals and it is obvious to anyone that most scientists feel that birds descended from dinosaurs. It really needs no footnote. The old wording of "almost universal" gives a casual article reader the feeling that 995 out of 1000 scientists feel that way. Such a strong statement requires a couple of reliable sources stating that fact. Wide consensus (at least to me) feels like 80-99% of scientists agree which gives enough elbow room to satisfy everyone who reads this article. Good job. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:23, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Bypassing redirects
Hello! I noticed that you replaced numerous links to National Broadcasting Company with links to NBC. Please see Redirect. Thank you! —David Levy 01:15, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi David,
 * Thanks for the note. I hadn't seen that section of the guideline before. I wonder why on earth people are developing tools that highlight redirects if we're not supposed to do anything about them. Firsfron of Ronchester  01:26, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm wondering the same thing. Am I correct in understanding that this is a feature of AutoWikiBrowser?  —David Levy 01:41, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * No. Although I was using AWB to make the "fixes", the script comes from here. It's supposed to catch disambiguation links (and highlights them), but it also highlights redirects. Firsfron of Ronchester  01:45, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks. I'll point Splarka to this discussion.  —David Levy 02:09, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * All my script does is "find" disambiguations and redirects, it does not imply that they should be repaired, I simply wrote it per user requests.


 * Actually, in regards to redirects, it doesn't even do anything, except add a CSS rule to hilight the already available classes on all links to redirects. This has absolutely no server impact and anyone can add any sort of redirect-exposing css or js to their own experience (and may do). See 30871 and 30876, and 12968. --Splarka (rant) 03:37, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I realize that your script has no server impact and violates no rules, but what is the practical application of highlighting redirects? Other than enabling their "repair," what purpose does this serve?  —David Levy 14:43, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Maybe the script was written before the guideline was in place. Or maybe, like me, the editor who requested the highlighting redirect feature wasn't aware of the guideline. I was removing them because the text at the top of the article that you get when you're redirected looks a bit ugly, and also (more importantly) removing redirects to an article eliminates the possibility of a double redirect. (Don't worry, I won't be doing it again, after seeing the guideline). I certainly do like the dab-finding portion of Splarka's script. It's great.  Firsfron of Ronchester  18:54, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * In reply to: "but what is the practical application of highlighting redirects?" -> . As said, it was by user request. I am not simply going to remove a feature just because some people might misinterpret its use, nor will I attempt to defend it any more than I have. That would be like removing the edit button because it inspires vandalism. Feel free to fork the dabfinder ^_^. --Splarka (rant) 00:30, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not asking you to remove the feature. I'm asking you to explain its intended purpose (thereby enabling the creation of documentation that would discourage the aforementioned misinterpretation).  —David Levy 03:53, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * No idea, I don't even know why people need to find disambiguations TBH. Maybe it was because redirects to disambiguations and direct links to disambiguations are treated the same on 'Find disambiguations', and you can further segregate them by 'Find redirects'? Maybe this category might have something to do with it? If you can decide on a caveat, I'll add it to the tooltip of the script or something:
 * Also, I'm watching the page now, no more talkbacks needed. Also I'm on freenode in irc:mediawiki and irc:mediawiki-scripts for live abuse. --Splarka (rant) 04:47, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, I'm watching the page now, no more talkbacks needed. Also I'm on freenode in irc:mediawiki and irc:mediawiki-scripts for live abuse. --Splarka (rant) 04:47, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Highlighting links to disambiguation pages is useful because most of them (excepting hatnotes) are accidental and should be bypassed to lead directly to the relevant articles. (So it's understandable that someone would assume that the redirects have been highlighted for the same reason.)  If you can add a note indicating that functional redirects should not be bypassed (and ideally pointing to Redirect), that would be very helpful.  —David Levy 05:14, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, adding the link meant it had to be done a rather different way. Also, this is used on other projects, so I made it activate only on en.wp for now. Diff. --Splarka (rant) 06:46, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Splarka! That should help considerably.  —David Levy 06:52, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

NOTICE OF WITHDRAWAL

 * I am writing this message to you as a notice of my withdrawal from Wikipedia following the recent events/edits on the CNN and Susan Roesgen pages – events that you were involved in. Never in all of my years in academia (the better part of a decade) have I been privy to such patently-insincere and downright academically-fraudulent work as that which I have encountered on Wikipedia.
 * While I was initially willing to set aside all of the negative things I had heard about Wikipedia in an effort to contribute to a seemingly beneficial project, the actions of editors and administrators on the Susan Roesgen and CNN pages has made it eminently clear that “scholarship” and Wikipedia truly are mutually exclusive – propaganda has carried the day.
 * My failure to grace the project with some actual academically-sound work was not made in vain; with every neutral editor that you drive out of the project with your blatantly POV-pushing agenda, you further bolster your reputation as nothing but an unreliable propaganda board. Your reputation for unreliability was perhaps best captured in a recent statement made by my corporations professor: “I decided to make myself more ignorant on the topic by looking at the article (Dodge v. Ford Motor Company) on Wikipedia.”
 * I strongly encourage you to alter your course, set aside your agenda, and reverse your – and Wikipedia’s – reputation as a laughing stock. This will not only benefit the public in general, but will, I submit, actually make you feel better about yourself. Best, J.M.Jm131284 (talk) 03:29, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Conspiracy Wall
Since I had to put up something half-assed for my final (and since the project was getting sorta unwieldy crammed into the margins of a couple of 8.5x11 pages) I plotted out for the first couple of tiers of the visualization via the tried and true pin and tape method. Of course, this is less than half the full thing... I'll try and collate all the stuff I gathered and make a readable chart and send it to all the chaps who helped sometime this summer (you can see you if you look closely... some guy in my class was wondering why there was some random chap in the middle of the desert working on dino articles... :P) -- Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 03:28, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the thing's really gonna' need a key once I finish. Basically starting from a random FA (Bone Wars, which without the article text one person in my class thought was a Star Wars porno ripoff) it lists the top three contributors to the article (you, me, and WolfmanSF). Then for each user it lists their top three mainspace articles they edit and for each of those articles, another three users, et cetera. Each of the solid bordered circles is an article, the dotted ones are users. The numbers in user circles are their edits to the previous article, and the numbers on the articles refers to the users edits/total edits (in bold). The slight grey fraction for each article is the percent of total edits that were marked as minor. -- Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 12:46, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Ack, some big Illuminati conspiracy ...mwaaahahahaha Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:01, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Liopleurodon
Hi, Firs,

I'm quitting WP, so I'm going to be staying out of the liopleurodon discussion now, which will probably end it. I thought I'd say "thanks" to you, for always remaining civil on the talkpage. However, I think the comment you posted on my talkpage ("Discuss on the talk page like a rational adult") was insulting and unnecessary (as we had already started discussing). But, as I say, apart from that, you've been decent, respectful and civil, and I appreciate it.

Darimoma (talk) 06:41, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

GA Sweeps invitation
Hello, I hope you are doing well. I am sending you this message since you are listed as a GA reviewer. I would like to invite you to consider helping with the GA sweeps process. Sweeps helps to ensure that the oldest GAs still meet the criteria, and improve the quality of GAs overall. Unfortunately, last month only two articles were reviewed. This is definitely a low point after our peak at the beginning of the process when 163 articles were reviewed in September 2007. After nearly two years, the running total has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A new worklist has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. All exempt and previously reviewed articles have already been removed from the list. Instead of reviewing by topic, you can consider picking and choosing whichever articles interest you.

We are always looking for new members to assist with the remaining articles, so if you are interested or know of anybody that can assist, please visit the GA sweeps page. In addition, for every member that reviews 100 articles or has a significant impact on the process, s/he will get an award when they reach that threshold. If only 14 editors achieve this feat starting now, we would be done with Sweeps! Of course, having more people reviewing less articles would be better for all involved, so please consider asking others to help out. Feel free to stop by and only review a few articles, something's better than nothing! Take a look at the list, and see what articles interest you. Let's work to complete Sweeps so that efforts can be fully focused on the backlog at GAN. If you have any questions about the process, reviewing, or need help with a particular article, please contact me or OhanaUnited and we'll be happy to help. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 07:15, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

et al.
Yes, indeed I already have fixed a lot of cases - like all these things it gets ever more complex. Rich Farmbrough, 18:41 17 May 2009 (UTC).

Quinceratops
Hi, Firs;

You'd better nail the article, too. J. Spencer (talk) 18:02, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I just put the image up for deletion on Commons.  Moab man's another odd one just put up by Conty. J. Spencer (talk) 18:27, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It's much better now. Before it read like an entry from a Swedish-language Mysteries of the Unknown Time-Life volume run through a Google translator.  We can always direct the fringe noticeboard to it if things get hairy. J. Spencer (talk) 00:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Template:Italictitle
I believe you're mistaken. italictitle italicizes the article's title, not part of the article's text. Take a closer look, and you'll see.

For example (and please remove it when you've seen what it does, unless you like it that way, of course...), if I add the template to your talk page, then the title of your talk page appear as User talk:Firsfron instead of User talk:Firsfron.

I've been making sure before adding the template that the title is not italicized and afterward that it is. Dinoguy2 knows about this template now, too, so don't be surprised if you see him using it as well. Bob the Wikipedian (talk • contribs) 01:29, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

DEMO: adding italictitle code to your userpage, remove when you're done observing the change.


 * Glad you're amused. :D Tell all your friends and family...Tree of Life is adopting this for genus, species, subspecies, and infraspecies pages that use scientific names. Bob the Wikipedian (talk • contribs) 01:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

The Mariah Carey mess
Hi, could you protect the Mariah Carey discography article as you did today to few of her albums pages? The reason is the same as was on the Mariah Carey mess discussion. The site is vandalised every day by two sockpuppets (see also WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Petergriffin9901/Archive) and  (see also WP:Sockpuppet investigations/JuStar/Archive). Max24 (Max24) 18:18, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much. Max24 (Max24) 20:50, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Kosovo
Hello, I need some assistant regarding the Kosovo page. It is being attacked constantly by people refusing to accept fact. Some administrators are being unreasonable and I picked you out randomly to ask for assistance, hope that's okay.


 * One example; the article talks of Serbian boys taken as "slave booty" to Asia during the Ottoman period - the source is Serb historian with no reputation


 * My source; Ira Lapidus - is standard university text for the study of Islamic societies (in this case the Ottoman empire), explains how Christian boys were taken from the Balkans - not from Serbia in particular - and enlisted in the Janissary corps when they were older

Thuranx keeps editing, for no apparent reason. I have tried to instigate discussion with him here on my talk page, but he gives no specific examples of my "vandalism". He seems to be pushing POV or in any case, wants to maintain the status quo regarding the Kosovo article. It should be noted that the Kosovo article is tagged as not neutral and full of misleading citations. I have tried to add numerous citations but there is a huge problem with the editors (possibly administrator (s)) on the page. I would like to know what you think.

(Interestedinfairness (talk) 00:46, 4 June 2009 (UTC)).

Re: Edit summaries
Sure, no problem. I kind of forget about edit summaries often, but I'll certainly try to be descriptive now. Thanks! -- Spotty  11222 22:41, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Article move request
Hi, could you please move the article Rodrigues solitaire back to Rodrigues Solitaire with a capitalised S? Spotty moved it to the new title and put it in italics, believing it was the binominal name, when it is really the common name. FunkMonk (talk) 13:29, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

WP:TVS discussion
We are having a discussion about personalities in TV station articles. I was wondering if you could give any guidance....some of the people in the debate have become downright nasty. --CFIF ☎ ⋐ 17:10, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey there, thanks for taking a look. :) --CFIF ☎ ⋐ 21:22, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Scutellosaurus
Hi Firf, thanks for the head up. I've removed the image for now. Cheers. ArthurWeasley (talk) 13:30, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope.:/ ArthurWeasley (talk) 23:24, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * OK. Thanks for the note. Cheers ArthurWeasley (talk) 15:13, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

The Ballads (Mariah Carey album)
When is this being unlocked? I think the issues might have died down now. — R  2  17:22, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much. — R  2  10:26, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Italictitle template
Hi, Firs;

I just found out something useful about the italictitle template: I already knew that if it is put at the top, it prevents the uppermost [edit] bracket from showing. However, if it's put below the taxobox, as Bob did at Pteranodon and I just did with Allosaurus, it doesn't interfere. I don't know if this has editing drawbacks, but it's very good to know we can get back the edit bracket for the lede section, especially for ginormous articles. J. Spencer (talk) 01:35, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, it's apparently fixed, but the rest of the pages must have yet to catch up. J. Spencer (talk) 01:33, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Daydream (Mariah Carey album)
Can the full protection on this article be dropped to semi now? لenna vecia  18:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Limusaurus
Yes, I just happened to have stumbled on the article while browsing the latest Nature issue and found that there was no article on it on wikipedia! Thanks for all the small fixes on the article. Somebody should probably submit a DYK on this. Cheers. ArthurWeasley (talk) 00:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Re:Barnstar and Limusaurus
Thanks! I think there's a little more to add, and if you don't object, I could submit the DYK? I was thinking of something like ... Limusaurus is the first herbivorous theropod ceratosaur to be discovered in Eastern Asia. What do you think? -- Spotty  11222 10:29, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Too late, I've just submitted a DYK...Cheers ArthurWeasley (talk) 21:21, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for your hearty welcome back and for the barnstar, I very much appreciate both. I am disheartened to hear that the grammatical plague that is it's/its confusion has extended itself during my time away, but it goes without saying that I will do what I can to reverse it!

All the best,

User:It's-is-not-a-genitive

talk page deletions
Hello, I was under the impression that users cannot delete their talk pages and that it is separate from deleting the user page as CSD specifically says not user talk pages. Am I incorrect? Thanks, Nableezy (talk) 21:01, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * User talk:Drork was deleted under U1. Nableezy (talk) 21:11, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I did not know an RTV was requested. Best wishes to you as well, Nableezy (talk) 21:42, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

fetch episode list
can you undo the 5 edit down on the paige. I do not know how to do it. Here's the link http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_FETCH!_with_Ruff_Ruffman_episodes&diff=297241568&oldid=297061872 thanks please respondSuiteman (talk) 21:37, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Tagging
I reworked some of the first paragraph into the lead, seeing as it might be better there, as well as adding a See Also section. -- Spotty  11222 14:12, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Petergriffin9901
You installed that massive protection at my request, so you should probably be aware of Petergriffin9901's return to editing. He's on a pretty tight leash. If you catch him violating parole, let me know. I'd let the 6-week protections expire on schedule: no reason to present excessive temptation, and I'm not convinced JuStar is completely gone.&mdash;Kww(talk) 15:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

DTV transition in the United States
You know, I KNEW I fotgot to do something. I wondered if ABC by itself led anywhere. I don't know whether I ever did that before.

I guess you're right. WPVI-TV was enough. But I'm glad you kept that the newscast was the most popular in the area, because this seems to be one of the more serious consequences of the transition.

I'll update the article sometime next week. But it doesn't have to wait for me! Vchimpanzee ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 21:29, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I just wonder if I ever messed up and linked ABC-TV to the ABC page. I figured ABC-TV was big enough that it would be the ABC article, rather than the ABC article being the disambiguation page. But I checked "What links here".

It makes sense that if my source was the Inquirer they would call it ABC 6. At the time I though this would be helpful information in showing how the transition affected people in Philadelphia. But only in Philadelphia; you're right. I'll watch myself from now on.

I guess the responsibility is all mine for keeping the article updated, then? Hopefully others will be watching for new information, but I may not have time for two weeks. Vchimpanzee ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 15:49, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

New hoax
Hi, Firs;

Here's a new one to nail, if it's still here by the time you read this: Rorasaurus. J. Spencer (talk) 13:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC) (I'd watch Roarasaurus too, as they may try to recreate it.) J. Spencer (talk) 13:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I wish there was an easier way to know when these show up; I only found out about it because an IP added it to the List of dinosaurs. WP:DABS was pretty good for that before it got broken. J. Spencer (talk) 23:56, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, maybe I spoke too soon. DABS worked if someone added an article to a category.  Using "What links here" for Dinosaur is also helpful, but only works if the hoaxer wikilinked dinosaur.  A lot of hoaxers are only going to be here for one hoax, and either won't know or won't care about categories and wikilinks.  The most foolproof search is something like User:AlexNewArtBot/PaleontologySearchResult, because it goes by text. J. Spencer (talk) 01:15, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for getting service reinstated on DABS! J. Spencer (talk) 02:54, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Stop it.
sometime, Fox Broadcasting Company and it affiliate callsign is FOX. National Broadcasting Company's callsign is not a Nbc.--Cmerkre (talk) 02:33, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Fox/Television Templates
Hey Firs, I noticed your work on the television market templates and updating the links. You might want to go through and check them all because I think some have just the FOX link and not the Fox link. Let me know if you need any help. I will be knee deep in WP:NOT violations on the radio station pages :) -  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • 03:39, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

FOX->Fox?
Was this FOX->Fox change actually discussed somewhere? I skimmed through your talk page, but I didn't really see anything specific...

My main 'concern' is that this change will simply be undone by other users, over time. The use of FOX may "break" the guideline that you mentioned, but the use of all caps is widely recognized by the general public. I imagine that you're likely to receive quite a bit of opposition to this (seemingly unilateral?) change, even if that opposition is mostly silent. — Ω (talk) 18:06, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

You are en, not en-3
Firsfron, I am assuming you are American or British. If so, your correct Wiki Babel category is "en": native speaker of English. The numbered categories are for those who do NOT speak English as their mother tongue: en-4 is for very advanced (almost as good as their own native language), en-3 (advanced), en-2 (intermediate level), en-1 (basic English). Please edit--your current "en-3" for Babel is not just overly modest; it's erroneous. And if you do speak another language as your native one, please indicate it. --A Firsfron admirer (I do admire your work)

AWB Freddy Krueger
Why was a [sic] added in this article? --- Scarce  ||||  Talk  - Contrib. --- 02:30, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, I'm sure you know this, but as a reminder, if you move your talk page header to the prefix, User talk:Firsfron. Then all you have to do is on your talk page, gives it a much cleaner look when the page is edited! Also, "click here to do it automatically" if you put the link between  , it appears as an internal link! Just a tip I'm sure you already knew! --- Scarce  ||||  Talk  - Contrib. --- 02:35, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know what a [sic] is, feel free to correct the spelling errors, keep in mind, that text was spoken, not written, also, I wrote it as I heard it, so I may have typed fast, and I may have made a couple of typos --- Scarce  ||||  Talk  - Contrib. --- 06:12, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Owner of that website (this is going to make me sound nerdy) I wish! --- Scarce  ||||  Talk  - Contrib. --- 06:21, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * A program I got in Win. XP called "Narrator". I typed it as it was spoken, for some reason, you can't copy and paste on that website so I had to do it this way. The only version of this interview I know of is from my reference on the article --- Scarce  ||||  Talk  - Contrib. --- 06:29, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, why don't you have a talk page link in your sig. It makes it unnecessarily hard to access your page --- Scarce  ||||  Talk  - Contrib. --- 06:30, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Really? Wow, I got it right, odd! I guess we're going to just have to fix the typos, I'm sure the site got them wrong --- Scarce  ||||  Talk  - Contrib. --- 06:41, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, if another website had we couldn't use it anyway, you have to site the original source... Hmmmm..... I might have an idea that's crazy enough to work, BRB! --- Scarce  ||||  Talk  - Contrib. --- 06:46, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Australian dinosaurs
Thank you for your comment left on my talk page regarding Wintonotitan. I had as well used the pdf journal paper for my edits, and I corrected the spelling error by using re-directs for the incorrect spelling which was used firstly also elsewhere on wikipedia where a request had been made to start an article with that incorrect spelling. The etymology given was also from the journal article which stated it was named after Winton, for the town of Winton. Titan –Giant in Greek Mythology for Keith Watts who discovered the dinosaur. And it really doesn't hurt to say the obvious in layman's terms who may not automatically know that Titanosauriformes in turn contains the brachiosaurids and the titanosaurians and is the one of the largest sauropod groups, which also contains most of the longest, tallest and most massive dinosaurs of all time, and that they were herbivores, as encyclopaeida articles should be able to be read by anybody.SriMesh | talk  19:41, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Placeholders
Ok, I'll get to it eventually. In the middle of some other stuff right now. Thanks for pointing it out. Abyssal (talk) 19:44, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Mea culpa
It's poor repayment for your kindness with the chicken Ruff, but I've looted your userpage for good ideas, although they do say imitation is... - apologies and thanks, jimfbleak (talk) 11:11, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Mariah Carey discography
I should have asked you first, but it's probably time to unprotect her discography. WP:RFPP.&mdash;Kww(talk) 00:45, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Leaving?
Hi Firs, Thank you for your kind note! I am not actually leaving but simply putting an end on any editing activities on wiki articles (it was on the declining side anyway...) and you can still contact me on any issues you may have (yes I still have to fix this Scutellosaurus image... I will eventually.). Cheers... ArthurWeasley (talk) 22:44, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

A convenient typo
That was just my way of smiling and saying "Hi"; I always enjoy seeing your footprints in the 'pedia. I was feeling nostalgic for "the good old days" when your name popped up on my watchlist. It's good to "see" you again : )  Doc   Tropics  05:59, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Recognition
The Working Man's Barnstar

Thanks
Your edits to Herrerasaurus cleared up all of my confusion. (It just happened to be the FAC that I decided to comb through for grammar, style, and clarity.) So thanks a ton, Awickert (talk) 19:54, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Retiring?
Hello Firs,

Its a complex thing. Nothing happened all of a sudden for me to make this decision. I knew I would retire by the end of 2009, but not this early. I've decided to focus all my attention on the other wiki project I am working on, the Fossil Wiki. I think Wikipedia is too broad for me, and I prefer to work on something more specialized. I am posting something at WP:PALEO regarding one of my other projects I wanted to finish before leaving. I just wanted to as you a question, if that's ok with you. How did you first get interested in paleontology? Oh well. It's been great editing with you Firs, thanks for everything. -- Spotty  11222 20:15, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Also, you can take a look at this article I've been working on for a while. Some of it incorporates text from various wikipedia articles, but a lot of it is also original (though thoroughly sourced) work. Think of it as a parting gift. Who knows, you may yet get Feathered dinosaurs featured. :) --  Spotty  11222 20:25, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks firs, I really appreciate it, and thanks for your comments. Happy editing, and take care! -- Spotty  11222 21:10, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Herrerasaurus
Congrats on the FA star for your old chicken! :) -- JN 466  22:29, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll be happy to keep an eye on it. Enjoy your vacation! J. Spencer (talk) 02:43, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

very impressed
Hi there. I was reading the entry for the Paramount Television Network. I have an interest in TV and TV history, and I was really blown away with how thorough it was. I've read hundreds of Wikipedia entries over the years, and this might be the most impressive one I've seen. I know how tough it is to find info about things like this from the early days of TV.

So, here's my question...were you the primary person who wrote this? If you weren't, do you know who was? If you were,how did you know all the info, and how did you know where to find it? Thanks, Dex Dexblack (talk) 15:10, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

MORE Very Impressed
Thanks so much for responding to my inquiry about the Paramount TV Network. And thanks so much for the reference tips, especially the one for old newspaper articles! Per your suggestion I just read the NTA piece. Likewise, quite impressive. Please keep up the excellent work! Best,Dex

MORE Very Impressed
Thanks so much for responding to my inquiry about the Paramount TV Network. And thanks so much for the reference tips, especially the one for old newspaper articles! Per your suggestion I just read the NTA piece. Likewise, quite impressive. Please keep up the excellent work! Best,DexDexblack (talk) 10:47, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Down You Go
Hey, thanks for setting me straight on that. Also, I have the "EOTVGS" (Encyclopedia of TV Game Shows) listings on my computer, and I never came across anything stating that the show took a three-month hiatus in 1954.

Also, how could I perchance make my talkpage look like yours? I can honestly say that I have no clue on that front... --Daniel Benfield (talk) 13:15, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Dinoruss
Hi, Firs;

Thanks for getting the Dinoruss links fixed. I found a few more in article space, but it was much easier this time than converting the lot back in the spring! J. Spencer (talk) 22:18, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Please take a look at this
Responding to several comments over at the NOT talk page, based on the idea of "unencyclopedic" content, I put up a new section, Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not on that talk page. Much of the "unencyclopedic" argument is a pet peeve of mine. It's a bit of a tangent to the main discussion, and it overlaps with much of what you wrote, but the focus and level of detail is different. WP:PILLARS provides a lot of support for including here information that is in specialized encyclopedias. I'd be interested in your thoughts on it. Thanks, Noroton (talk) 19:13, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Television schedules
HI. Couldn't help but notice you asked 14 people to comment on the television schedules debate at WP:NOT. Just curious as to what motivated you, how you chose the people, what you feel about canvassing? Hiding T 08:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Reinstating the Updates for Kitchen Nightmares
Hi, I am in the midst of gathering everyone to give their comments on reinstating the updates for Kitchen Nightmares. I would appreciate if you come and give your comments on whether to keep or remove the updates here: Talk:Kitchen_Nightmares Roman888 (talk) 11:28, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Sarah Palin
I'm worried about the precedent of one user conducting an edit war landing a page in indefinite full protection, with his tags in place. This wasn't a wide ranging edit dispute, it was one editor with an agenda battling against every other editor on the page. user: J  aka justen (talk) 19:16, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Firs, thanks for your support of the attempt to make Sarah Palin a better place to edit. :) kmccoy (talk) 20:18, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
For your assistance with my unblock :) Scribner (talk) 21:59, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Fourth Network
Good article on a subject I have long had an interest in. Thanks. RichardLowther (talk) 21:31, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

TV Schedule pages
These pages are all right as is. Please do NOT tamper with them; if you do wyou will risk getting BLOCKED!!198.236.192.210 (talk) 02:10, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I made a momentary out-of-retirement edit to revert the changes by this anon. This is a school account and should be blocked as such.  Waaay too many vandalism warnings and to me this looks like the work of Dingbat2007 (who has been know to jump IPs cross-country).  I have also issued a Warn4IM warning to the anon as well.  I expect more revisions and will revert from there.  Until then, back to retirement. -  NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • 02:21, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Not a problem :) Take Care... NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • 02:49, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

RE: Fourth television network
Hey Firsfron!

Just caught your note and gave the article a quick once-over. I'll see what I can do to add sources, but can't make any promises. I severely burned myself out on vandal control and on arguments over fair-use, images, and the like, and other things have taken higher priority, so my break has turned more into semi-retirement. I'm easing back into it, but it's going to be more for behind-the-scenes stuff, such as strengthening existing articles with reliable sources, so your request fits right into what I'd like to do. BTW, if you'd like to reach me at a more reliable place than my talk page, you can e-mail me using my Wikipedia handle at q.com, or contact me on Facebook, using my full first and last names. dhett (talk • contribs) 07:53, 13 October 2009 (UTC)