User talk:Fishingmoose

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Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate encyclopedic contributions, but some of your recent contributions, such as your edit to the page Gout, seem to be advertising or for promotional purposes. Wikipedia does not allow advertising. For more information on this, see: If you still have questions, there is a new contributor's help page, or you can write   below this message along with a question and someone will be along to answer it shortly. You may also find the following pages useful for a general introduction to Wikipedia: I hope you enjoy editing Wikipedia! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Feel free to write a note on the bottom of my talk page if you want to get in touch with me. Again, welcome! Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:27, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
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January 2012
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for spamming or advertising. From your contributions, this seems to be your only purpose. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. WilliamH (talk) 13:46, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * You say: "My website was not meant to be spam" .. Your website is using a commission breakthrough template, and you use a ClickBank ID 'fishmoose'? As I see it, the only reason the page that you were adding exists, is to make money.  Could you please elaborate on this?  Thank you.  --Dirk Beetsrta T  C 07:40, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * You say: "My website was not meant to be spam" .. Your website is using a commission breakthrough template, and you use a ClickBank ID 'fishmoose'? As I see it, the only reason the page that you were adding exists, is to make money.  Could you please elaborate on this?  Thank you.  --Dirk Beetsrta T  C 07:40, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

You are correct, I did put the website up there to promote awareness that PILLS do not work all the time and to promote other items. You seem like you have one way of thinking, but if you look at other many other articles n Wikipedia, the same is done there also. But I said I will not be adding it again and I PROMISE that I will not be adding or editing anything to Wikipedia. I truly do not want to do anything wrong that is not up to your Standards. AS I see it Mr Beetsrta, you have checked into my affairs. It seems as if you have a personal vendetta against my types of articles Thank you. Fishingmoose (talk) 01:31, 1 February 2012 (UTC)Fishingmoose, I too use a Pseudo name to protect my identity

I PROMISE that I will not be adding or editing anything to Wikipedia, I WILL NOT BE adding or editing anything (including misspelled words) on Wikipedia. I would hate to be wrong. Fishingmoose (talk) 01:31, 1 February 2012 (UTC) fishingmoose.
 * Also, I see that you say, if unblocked, you won't add spam for that web site again, but you don't say what kind of editing you will do. Can you do so? That would help us to assess your unblock request. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:19, 30 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Fishingmoose, that was not the question:
 * Could you please elaborate on questions regarding the link you were adding
 * If you are unblocked, we expect you to edit. That is what Wikipedia is all about.
 * Thank you. --Dirk Beetstra T  C 04:33, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Mr Beetstra, To answer your question would be for me to be guilty of something that I did not do intentionally, but in error to the rules of Wikipedia. (by the way, I am sorry that I misspelled your name above). Here is my reply to your question: I put a website up, that gives 3 statements or recommendations for the reader to follow for gout or bunions or whatever. It then lists 2 items on the right hand side of the website that the reader can click on for further reading or not to click on, it is their choice. From my way of looking, 90% of the time. The reader stops right here and returns to Wikipedia. The rule of thumb is that only 10% of the readers will read more, and 10% of that group will actually do something with the additional reading. So before your 24 hour shutdown, this Gout page was visited roughly 1200 times per day, so 10% of that visited the External Items or 120 readers and only 10% of that visited the additional reading on the right hand side of the page or 12 readers) and maybe only 10% of the 12 readers actually did anything or 1.2 readers. I can personally tell you, if I was reading the article on gout (which i did), it was boring. I would have jump to the bottom of the page and said that this sounds like a medical dictionary. I have those on my library walls that say the same thing. "A person hears only what they understand". (Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German Poet, 1749-1832)

I just looked on the Wikipedia article, I have noticed that on the External Links, there is one item in there named "Gouts" which takes you to a list of websites promoting "BUY ME" items. Is that not the same as my website, as you say?

I do not accept your decision because I did answer your question and also stated that I will not ever edit anything on Wikipedia. It is not worth my time or effort to do so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by fishingmoose (talk • contribs)


 * I think that you should read into Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. 'if I was reading the article on gout (which I did), it was boring' - apparently you know more about it, it is Wikipedia's goal to be an encyclopedia, you could have started rewriting the article into a more suitable prose in stead of just add an external link, '..on the External Links, there is one item there named "Gouts"  which takes you to a list of websites promoting "BUY ME" items. Is that not the same as my website, as you say?" - That may be a reason to remove that site as well, it is by no means a reason to add you site.
 * Also, I am aware of the layout of the page, and of the three links you are talking about, at least 2 go through clickbank, 1 returns to Wikipedia. IF readers go to that page, and they follow that link, they get redirected through clickbank to other information, other pages.  But when that happens, the account of a person with the ClickBank ID 'fishmoose' will be credited.  That is in fact what 'fishmoose' is hoping for, that people will follow those links, and make 'fishmoose' rich while they is asleep.  And with you, there are hundreds of others who have followed the same scheme of editing.
 * '.. I will not ever edit anything on Wikipedia. It is not worth my time or effort to do so'. It was however worth your time and effort to add a link that is designed to make 'fishmoose' rich while they is asleep.  As such, I do not see any reason to unblock you.  If you say that you are not going to edit Wikipedia, then there is no reason to be unblocked, now you can not edit a page, but if you could, you would not do it anyway.  In fact, I would expect to see that you to tell us which pages you would edit, and how you would edit them, in the reasons you would like to be unblocked.
 * I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra T  C 04:28, 6 February 2012 (UTC)