User talk:Flat Out/Archives/2013/August

Hi
–––– I have made changes to Nick Charles and I am Assistant Director of GF and Nick is Director I have known and worked for him for 25 years and you can check me out : Nikki de Villiers www.nikkide.com www.gainsboroughfoundtion.co.uk

I would like to do these changes as soon as Thanks Nikki — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikkideviliers (talk • contribs) 12:58, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Nikkideviliers you need to support changes with reliable and verifiable sources. Also, you should read and understand conflict of interest. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   13:02, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, I am new to this. Any advice on how to go about the changes then? I changed date of birth because it was incorrect. Just wanted to update what he is doing now as what is there is not currently what he is doing. ––––
 * You really should leave the editing of this article to editors who don't have a conflict of interest. If you have any sources I am happy to use them to make edits but just knowing the subject isn't enough. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   13:13, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

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About the edit of 'TAX INDIA' App
according to me the app is a lot constructive, f you ask anyone related to taxation in india. It is free and offline app and there are no substitutes available for such app. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.131.125.190 (talk) 11:01, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 202.131.125.190 I'm sure the app is very useful however it has nothing to do with the article. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   11:06, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Katia Elizarova edits
Hi Flat Out

Already attempted to talk to both (or the same user masking ident) on talk pages ref- over zealous edits. I have reported them also. As it seems once more that the removal of content and sources is protectionist - and perhaps conducted by parties with vested interest in removing contemporary commentary / employees of those referenced.

Thank you for your intervention. But I can see this one just running and running... SIGH
 * Yes it seems that is the case. Let me take over for a short while and see if we can break the cycle. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   11:58, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Mas que nada
Dear Flat Out,

I almost never post anything here, so I am not particularly sure whether I am doing the correct thing. I tried editing one article about the song "Mas que nada" by Jorge Benjor, and after editing I received the following message:

"Hello, and thank you for your recent contributions. I appreciate the effort you made for our project, but unfortunately I had to undo your edit(s) because I believe the article read better before you made that change. Feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions. Thank you! Flat Out let's discuss it 09:54, 3 August 2013 (UTC)"

I wonder you sent this message and unauthorised my editing. However, I was just wondering exactly why. Apparently, you seem to think the article reads "better" before I made the change. This seems highly subjective. Could you give me a more objective, fact-based interpretation on the issue? Best wishes, Uneyoshi (talk) 12:23, 3 August 2013 (UTC)Uneyoshi.
 * Hi Uneyoshi and thanks for your question. In your edit, you added information about a British term in the middle of a sentence that commenced and finished with information on Portuguese terms. This made the sentence a little confusing to read. Also, you changed "spelled colloquially" to "misspelled colloquially." The colloquial spelling is different, but it is what it is. It's not misspelled. I was using a program that looks for vandalism and it tagged your edit as potential vandalism (which it wasn't) so I took the opportunity to perform a good faith revert, and leave a standard template message about readability. I hope this is of some help. Best wishes ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   12:35, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi ''' Flat Out. Thank you for your reply and I hope I am replying to you correctly. The idiom "Mas que nada" in Portuguese is used when you want to say to someone that what they are doing/thinking/saying is not exactly so in your opinion. Example: "Eu acho que os Estados Unidos hoje são um país de 3o. Mundo" (I think that today the United States is a 3rd World country); "Mas que nada! Eles ainda tem uma alta renda per capita e o maior PIB do mundo!" (Don't be silly/Come off it! They still have a high per capita income and the largest GDP in the world!). Although the British idiom "Come off it" is stronger than the Portuguese idiom "Mas que nada", "Come off it" conveys exactly the same idea and is definitely superior to "whatever". How could we add this information for the common wikipedia reader who on average has no Portuguese language skills whatsover? Best wishes,Uneyoshi (talk) 13:56, 3 August 2013 (UTC)Uneyoshi.
 * Hi Uneyoshi, just make the edit at the end of the sentence so you don't place British use in the middle of a sentence about Portuguese. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   13:59, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Julia Gillard - Fabian Society
Hi there, I read your comments about the suggestion I left on the Gillard page. It was not meant to be an article, just a suggestion. I note you feel it was a point of view, and thus I have removed the offending text. im just a new user, and was looking for some guidance from someone to write on the subject. As for the casual link between Fabianism and Julia's policy's, she herself said in an interview that it helped guide her choices in policy. As I can't quote the television interview itself (cant remember the station) I thought it best to delete the lot. Hope that is ok with you. Greg — Preceding unsigned comment added by EmeraldGreg (talk • contribs) 00:58, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * There's no need to remove the post, that is what talk pages are for - to share ideas and discuss articles. Let me know if you need any help, best wishes ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   11:05, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Damon Albarn
Hi,how are you? i hope fine. I put a more recent image of Damon Albarn but continue to change it saying it is not clear (it gets only one user|) I wanted to have your opinion, thank you.-- Σπάρτακος   talk please'   14:17, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Σπάρτακος the image looks fine to me. My advice would be to post on the article's talk page and explain that you have used a more recent image. That way, if someone reverts it you can request that they enter discussion on the talk page and seek consensus. Let me know if you need any further help. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   02:33, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Reviewing propose
Hello. I was wondering if you're interested in reviewing Risk (Megadeth album). I recently nominated it for a GA, and since you're also working on music articles I thought you'll be interested in doing it. It's a short one and it won't take you longer than a day to read it. I'll appreciate if you answer me quickly. Good bye.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 16:50, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Where is the GA discussion for this nomination, can you please link and I will try and contribute to the discussion. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   23:54, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I wanted you to be the reviewer. If you don't want, never mind.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 08:46, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Can you please give me the link to the discussion? ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   12:22, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Here it is, though you'll need to start it.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 14:04, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

WHY CAN'T I COMMUNICATE like I am here with you, but with FLYER22 or KKK?
Hello Flat Out - I hope that this can be read by you. FLYER 22 reverted my Tila Tequila post and I can not contact him no matter what I do to make contact. The same goes for KKK. I can not make contact with KKK for some reason as well. All contact protocols will not come up for me. The new pirated QUICKIWIKI default is really messing things up at WIKIPEDIA! This here is one way I hope that I can make contact.

This is my email address which I hope you will respond to so we can discuss this; dstatler2@echoback.com. I can not even contact you. All contact protocols for you and FLYER22 do not seem to work and no box to write messages in comes up EVER! THE QUICKIWIKI default is causing all kinds of problems connecting it seems, as it is a MIRROR PIRATE site to Wikipedia - which even my first editor on this post GINSULOFT was unaware of! Please email this to KKK and FLYER22 and also write me back - so I can discuss this craziness with you. Also, why has KKK contacting me instead FLYER22 - who did the revert? Please advise and contact me in some way where we can discuss this intelligently. I am not writing about Illuminati Conspiracy Theories, but I am writing about Tila Tequila - who is now predominately an activist by here own admission, all back-up up with links and proper references. Please read the post and look at the links and references and please contact me at dstatler2@echoback.com.

Thank you. Richard Warren LipackRichard Warren Lipack (talk) 03:27, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Richard Warren Lipack, If you continue to post Illuminati conspiracy theories as if they were factual, your account will be blocked from editing.&mdash;Kww(talk) 02:03, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Richard Warren Lipack I have no idea why you are asking me to get involved as I have nothing to do with that article nor do I have any powers to intervene. I looked at your edits and they were correctly reverted by several editors. Your changes were opinion supported by unreliable sources and also constitute a fringe theory. Please take the issue up on the talk pages of the editors who made the reverts bit be aware that if you reinstate unsourced content at Tila Tequila you will end up blocked.''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   05:45, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Flat Out - I was having a problem emailing back to all of these editors because the systems protocols apparently changed since I was last communicating on Wikipedia with editors. But I thought I'd write you since I saw a good link for you THAT obviously worked. I understand that this is not your issue, but as far as UNSOURCED content, I HAVE SINCE COMPLETELY properly SOURCED with scads of REFERENCES and direct quotes with direct links all of my data, and still have been blow off the map! I am finding that alot of Wikipedia editors do not read anymore - but just arrive at assumptions as a protocol of fact. Richard Warren LipackRichard Warren Lipack (talk) 06:11, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Richard Warren Lipack the sources you are using are not reliable. Please listen to what editors are telling you. Please Re-read WP:RS and WP:VERIFY. ''' Flat Out    let's discuss it   12:17, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

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Do you use Huggle
Hi, recently I have been granted rollback rights. But I don't know how to download Huggle. Do you use Huggle? If so, can you teach me how to download and use it? Thanks. Jianhui67 (talk) 08:57, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Jianhui67 I don't use Huggle, I use TW. ''' Flat Out    let's discuss it   12:34, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Then it's okay. But can you help me to review the pending revision of Good Luck Charlie? I'm not sure whether to accept that revision or not. He shifted some parts to the bottom. Jianhui67 (talk) 13:53, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Never mind someone had reviewed it. By the way, how do you review pending changes and how do you decide which one to accept or reject if the edit was not obvious vandalism or violation of WP:BLP? Jianhui67 (talk) 14:51, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
 * When reviewing an edit we check to see if the edit is vandalism or obviously in breach of wikipedia policy. Reviewers are not responsible for checking factual accuracy (read this link). Often you will need to look at the article history and recent edits to see if the changes are appropriate. If you aren't sure best leave it to another reviewer to decide until you get the hang of it. Let me know if you need any further help. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   22:58, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah I'm not the only reviewer here, there is you and all the other reviewers. Can you help me to review Yahoo!? Thanks. Jianhui67 (talk) 01:52, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry someone beat me to it! ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   04:58, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Wow now there are a lot of articles that need reviewing. Even the K-pop article that has been pending for 6 hours. ''' Jianhui67   Talk   03:12, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

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Chrissy Amphlett
Hi It is well known that Chrissy was in a band in 1971, here is just one link from Australian web site Milesago http://www.milesago.com/artists/raybrown.htm and Chrissy was in the same class as Denis Walter as she informs us on the following audio recording https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGJn_sUMPMA
 * Please sign your posts with the four tildes ( ~ ). The band she played with in 1971 is not notable. We don't include everything about the person, just that which meets notability. I have no idea what her being in the same class as Denis Walter means? ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   00:48, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

regarding martyr
Esselamu aleikum we rahmetullah we bereqatuh brother.

What are you doing undoing my edits? I see you are into preventing vandalism, are you into sharing the truth. The truth shall set you free is what the Bible says, the truth is the right path is what the Quran says. Martyr is a purely religious word it is a promise from God, not a promise from people to other people that they will be martyrs if they die for australia and it's values. No you only get to be a martyr if you die in the name of values set by God. How is this unclear to you, and why have you deleted my comments. How is this vandalism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DeputyBob (talk • contribs) 14:02, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
 * DeputyBob I have no interest in your opinions or religious beliefs, I am here to improve this encyclopedia. You seem to have an issue with maintaining a neutral point of view, providing appropriate sources, and achieving consensus. I didn't revert due to vandalism. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   11:15, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

yea dawg seriously, martyrdom is a promise by God, it doesn't get neutral :), how is this not clear. also word God is very religious it also isn't neutral or athiest?  is something not clear?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by DeputyBob (talk • contribs) 20:33, 6 August 2013 (UTC) ... also you do understand that you have been 'schooled' or 'educated' call it 'brainwashed' by wikipedia, in the name of 'neutrality' whatever the definition by wiki is, you hide the truth :) , do you understand the importance of truth and concealing it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DeputyBob (talk • contribs) 20:35, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I have no interest in debating religion v secularism at Martyr. I simply reverted because you added content that was not referenced and that was your opinion. Encyclopedia's are a summary of what reliable sources have written about a subject.
 * I have no interest in what you believe is the truth. I am here to help build an encyclopedia. If you aren't here for the same reason you are wasting everyone's time, including your own. Do not post personal attacks on user talk pages or use talk pages as a discussion forum. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   23:48, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

NO, you deleted my stuff because you haven't read the Bible or the Qur'an , you really want me to reference the Bible?
 * Yes. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   00:44, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

This word is from the Bible everyone knows that, but you are waisting your whole life not just your time, if you think about it you have slept 10 years of your life, if you are 30 yrs old. you will work 1/3 of your life also. the rest you will spend on wikipedia following guidelines of a wikipedia hhahah, there is no hope for you, read the Bible dawg, they have those in Australia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DeputyBob (talk • contribs) 11:12, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
 * DeputyBob, do not post personal attacks on user talk pages. Everything on wikipedia needs to be sourced. If you can't follow this simple rule then you shouldn't be here. I am sure there are dozens of religious discussions forums where you can argue your point but this is an encyclopedia and your posts are not appropriate. If you want to contribute to the article Martyr then source your edits and seek consensus with other interested editors ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   00:44, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

"no context"
For purposes of speedy deletion, "no context" mens there is insufficient information to tell what the subject of the article is.such as an article about a group or person, which omits to say what group it is or gives a completely generic name & where it cannot be immediately figured out Jet Steering is clear enough--it's a particular form of maneuvering vehicles, and it gives examples of some to which it applies. Of course as submitted it needs references and additional information, but that's another matter. DGG ( talk ) 17:50, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks DGG. What is the best response to a newly created article like that which is really an unreferenced brain dump? Keep an eye on it and see how it develops, add maintenance tags? I see these newly created articles fairly often and I would appreciate advice on the best way forward. Best wishes ''' Flat Out    let's discuss it   00:36, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Camp Resilience (NPCC)
Regarding that page I created, I have deleted a lot of the copyrighted content and can you help me to further modify the objective? My English is not that good. Thanks. ''' Jianhui67   Talk   10:48, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Do you have any sources apart from http://app-stg.npcc.gov.sg/data/s_campsite.html ? ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   10:53, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * How about the indemnity form for the camp like http://npccfoc.weebly.com/uploads/7/6/6/7/7667559/consent_form-camp_resilience.pdf ? Look at the first page of the form. ''' Jianhui67   Talk   10:56, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * You can't base the whole article on one primary source, you need secondary sources. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   11:01, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Or how about https://foursquare.com/v/camp-resilience-national-police-cadet-corps/4d2250f2bdd7a0935f73fcce or https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.235225103183450.54289.189885571050737 ? ''' Jianhui67   Talk   11:07, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Facebook isn't a reliable source and foursquare doesn't really contain munch information. See WP:43. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   11:12, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * How about this? http://jvsnpcc.wordpress.com/2011/11/14/area-18-atcstc-2011-completed/ Is youtube videos about this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpYRfOXIt2o also acceptable? ''' Jianhui67   Talk   11:24, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Err how does my article sound like an advertisement? ''' Jianhui67   Talk   13:34, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for modifying my article. Sorry, but Camp Resilience is a campsite, not a company or organization. ''' Jianhui67   Talk   13:44, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I have rewritten it, but because you copied a lot of it from the camp's website it was written like an advertisement, such as "In line with NPCC's mission which is to develop our members to be active and community leaders." Unless you find some independent and reliable sources it is likely the article will be nominated for deletion as it does not seem to convey notability. Based on the information on the website it appears to be an organisation with the aim to develop youth leadership. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   13:51, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Oh I forgot to change that part. I will change the link rot like what you did to Leonard Lim tomorrow and delete the problem. NPCC is an organization, but Camp Resilience is a campsite that belongs to the organization. ''' Jianhui67   Talk   14:23, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

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Regarding Nivea Akpore
About that page, I have modified the page that the new editor created. ''' Jianhui67   Talk   13:40, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Never mind, the article was deleted my an admin as it has no significance. ''' Jianhui67   Talk   06:19, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Parramatta Stadium
Why on earth did you revert my last edit? You says it 'needs a source', maybe if you bothered reading the article, you would have seen the damn source. Let me guess, you're friends with Snowman and want to annoy me for disagreeing with him? Stop reverting legitimate edits. Macktheknifeau (talk) 06:39, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Macktheknifeau, if you believe an editor has made a mistake you simply fix it, or start a discussion or the article's talk page or the editor's talk page. There is no need to be uncivil or make accusations of collusion which, by the way, is a breach of no personal attacks. Your failure to assume good faith is troubling. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   10:16, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Old rhythm and blues is dead in early 80s, man.
Don‘t revert back into Rhythm and blues. Because old rhythm and blues is dead in early 80s, but newer R&B is called contemporary R&B, which revived there but more mixture and became popular. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.164.239.18 (talk) 16:28, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 115.164.239.18, you need to discuss genre changes on the article's talk page - not just change it based on your opinion, man. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   23:38, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Your feedback
Hi Flat Out,

The Potts Point Partnership is a not for profit local business chamber that covers Kings Cross.

As Coordinator of the Partnership, I edited the sentence about the Kings Cross Food and Wine Festival and the Kings Cross Business Partnership for multiple reasons:

- the Kings Cross Business Partnership is not valid anymore. We changed our name to the Potts Point Partnership a couple of years ago - the Kings Cross Food and Wine Festival was replaced by the Kings Cross Festival - a broader event.

If you want some external links that are not our website - see here:

http://sydney.concreteplayground.com.au/event/88509/kings-cross-festival-2012.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by PottsPointPartnership (talk • contribs) 03:05, 19 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your message, PottsPointPartnership. While the Chamber may be not for profit, it represents for-profit businesses and as such there is a likely issue with your username, and a conflict of interest. Can I suggest that you post on the article's talk page and explain that some information might be out of date and let another editor make the edit. You should also explain your username at WP:Usernames for administrator attention or request a change of username if you wish to continue editing wikipedia. Best wishes ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   03:12, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Keith Johnson: addressing concerns; more references added
Dear Flat Out, Just wanted to let you know that I have done some more work on Keith Johnson’s page – if you have the time to look at it, that would be much appreciated – I’ve left details in the Talk page for “Keith Johnson (author)”. (Hope that was the right place to put it). Thanks. Caltheon (talk) 15:48, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Dear Flat Out,

Just wondering if you have had a chance yet to look at what I wrote on the Talk page for “Keith Johnson (author)” ... and the updated version of the entry, that is in my sandbox ? Many thanks for any help you can give.

Caltheon (talk) 15:18, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Old rhythm and blues is dead in early 80s, man.
Don‘t revert back into Rhythm and blues. Because old rhythm and blues is dead in early 80s, but newer R&B is called contemporary R&B, which revived there but more mixture and became popular. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.164.239.18 (talk) 16:28, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 115.164.239.18, you need to discuss genre changes on the article's talk page - not just change it based on your opinion, man. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   23:38, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Your feedback
Hi Flat Out,

The Potts Point Partnership is a not for profit local business chamber that covers Kings Cross.

As Coordinator of the Partnership, I edited the sentence about the Kings Cross Food and Wine Festival and the Kings Cross Business Partnership for multiple reasons:

- the Kings Cross Business Partnership is not valid anymore. We changed our name to the Potts Point Partnership a couple of years ago - the Kings Cross Food and Wine Festival was replaced by the Kings Cross Festival - a broader event.

If you want some external links that are not our website - see here:

http://sydney.concreteplayground.com.au/event/88509/kings-cross-festival-2012.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by PottsPointPartnership (talk • contribs) 03:05, 19 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your message, PottsPointPartnership. While the Chamber may be not for profit, it represents for-profit businesses and as such there is a likely issue with your username, and a conflict of interest. Can I suggest that you post on the article's talk page and explain that some information might be out of date and let another editor make the edit. You should also explain your username at WP:Usernames for administrator attention or request a change of username if you wish to continue editing wikipedia. Best wishes ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   03:12, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
thanks

Americanluck (talk) 12:38, 21 August 2013 (UTC) 
 * You are welcome, Americanluck. I hope you stay and keep working on new articles and improving existing ones. If you ever need a hand please feel free to ask. The articles for creation process might be of interest to you. It will help you develop high quality articles and reduce the chances of articles you create being nominated for deletion. best wishes ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   12:48, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Help
helo flat out, I need help from you. I have detected a mistake in the demographics section of Indonesia. the exact hindu percentage is 1.69 compared to 3% stated on the article indonesia, further majority of Muslims in Indonesia are Sunni compared to non-denominational majority stated on the page. since I am an inexprenced editor I ask you for help. please correct the information stated on the main page of Indonesia. I will thank you by heartAmericanluck (talk) 14:52, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Americanluck, i will have a look at this when I get time and will also explain to you how to make that change. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   23:54, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Dear flat out, I want you to make this change. you can get the difference in article Indonesia, by comparing it with religion in Indonesia article, which has the correct information. I have seen the history of article Indonesia, and it looks like a user named as merbabu continuously reverts the edits by other user. the correct hindu percentage is 1.69 compared to 3% stated, further majority of Muslims are Sunni. I don't want to engage in an edit war. so, I want you to correct the information.please daer change the incorrect information.Americanluck (talk) 04:36, 22 August 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Americanluck (talk • contribs) 04:30, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
 * my comment is here for long time and it has not been reviewed by you. please give attention to my comment written aboveAmericanluck (talk) 07:13, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I have been at work all day and now I am helping my son with his homework. I will make the edit when I have time, if that isn't fast enough for you then please make the change yourself. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   09:51, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Gangu Teli
Hi mate, - I created the Gangu Teli page to notate context for the furore and allegations of casteism over statements made by Indian minister Ghulam Nabi Azad on Narendra Modi's Prime Ministerial ambitions. I wasn't aware of the history & context of the "saying" or the fact that Modi too belonged to the Teli caste, and I believe that as Narendra Modi is potentially an important person in future world history, as an emerging leader and as a polarizing person, the subject needed to be brought together and put into context. How do you suggest that we rewrite and improve the page?AchisDeGeth (talk) 08:04, 22 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi AchisDeGeth, I suggest that we move the article into your userspace so you can get it up to standard before you submit it for review. There are some good resources at New_contributors%27_help_page. If you agree I will move the article and help you get started. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   10:19, 22 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I intend to work on this page tomorrow when I have free time, to include "inline citations." I had added all references to the bottom of the article, in references. AchisDeGeth (talk) 03:50, 24 August 2013 (UTC)


 * AchisDeGeth, I have moved the article to your userspace. You can find the draft article at User:AchisDeGeth/Gangu Teli and you can continue to improve it there before it goes back to mainspace. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   05:40, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Sincere advise
Dear, I was not really expecting these comments from you. you mentioned me as a sock of user Rajput, I have viewed you comment and made me pretty frustrated.you said that I am new.Who told you that?whould you expect a new user creating a bunch of articles in no time.I have been editing Wikipedia anonymously.I fully know the meaning of edit war.
 * Why would anyone accuse a new editor of edit warring for correcting data that is correctly referenced? it doesn't make sense.

secondly, I asked you to edit article Indonesia because I was fully aware of its article history, Every new your who changes the demographic section of the article is associated with socks of rajpitbhati. so I nominated you(established user) to make these edits because you have authority..
 * I don't have any more authority than you. Also, see WP:MEATPUPPET.

Just tell me, do I was asking you take make wrong edits. Instead of citing actual information you wasted your time mentioning me as sock(It realy hurt me).
 * I didn't make the edits because you didn't have a good reason not to do them yourself, and because when I didn't make the change as quickly as you wanted, you told me to hurry up which I did not appreciate.

third you said that I make edits on moslim related page, my dear fellow please check my contributions page, I am pretty much interested in nephrology and also make Christian related edits.
 * No, I said your edits (not articles) were Islam related and they moslty are. The Nephrology article is simply a copy of a journal article abstract which you used to make it tlook like your interests are different to the sockpuppeteer.

and another thing I want to remember you is that, I completely know that you are deleting page created by me only to hurt me.why are you asking now that it is duplicated, why you not applied for speedy deletion just after I created page.
 * When you created the page I thought you were a new user trying to create an article, but when I suspected you were a sockpuppet I went back and had another look at it and found you had copied the whole thing. That's why I have nominated it.

and you were the first visitor on my page. The only thing I learned after joining Wikipedia is that it consist of a bunch of users who only know to take revenge and hurt other users.(haaah)Americanluck (talk) 09:34, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I have learned that I don't like wasting my time trying to help people who are operating up to 10 different accounts. You aren't very good at covering your tracks either, you leave clues everywhere. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   09:54, 24 August 2013 (UTC)


 * please just block me, you have already ruined my life. I donot want to live because society hates me because I am gay. I am going to commit suicide tomarrow. If you are a presbytrian Christian, the pray to god to forgive me.(my real name is (Nicolas). may God bless you and your childrenAmericanluck (talk) 11:05, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * In case a TPS is inclined to provide advice, the Foundation has been informed. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   11:54, 24 August 2013 (UTC)


 * The greatest shock you given me is that after you listed me as a sock, the user merbabu reverted all my edits which were not even related to vandalism. To commit suicide is a fundamental right of every person(especially gay). No one can stop me from this step.just pray to God. I wanna reside in heaven.Americanluck (talk) 12:44, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

GA Review
Hey pal. Just to ask how's the review doing? Are there any initial results?--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 16:15, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Вик Ретлхед just to jog my memory, didn't you tell me not to worry, that someone else had done it? ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   22:01, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
 * You obviously misunderstood me. I wanted you to be the reviewer, since the article is only three paragraphs. I also mentioned that you shouldn't worry if you don't want to do it. You can resign and leave the article on the waiting list.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 05:32, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that, I went through my archives and I can't see the comment. Someone else must have made it to me on an unrelated topic and I incorrectly had it in my mind that someone else had done the review. I have done it now and hope it is OK, as I haven't done a GA review before. Best wishes ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   10:02, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks buddy. Sorry if I caused you any trouble. See you.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 10:58, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Finished the updates and I think it's ready for a final look.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 11:41, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

mig33
Hi Flat Out, I was trying to revert back to the original document (before today's edits) but the original sections still get taken down. Any advice as to why this is happening and how I can bring the old (wikipedia-approved) sections back for the benefit of the page owner. Please help as soon as possible. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Formosarain (talk • contribs) 05:14, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Formosarain please read the talk page at the article, which clearly explains the changes that have been made. No one owns the page. Please stop re-adding promotional and unsourced content and please read and understand WP:SOCKPUPPET. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   09:31, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

plz stop americanluck
i am leaving this message on the talk page of merbabu and i also want to inform you. my interest is fadding in wikipedia since my vacations are coming to an end. I used wikipedia as a tool to prevent my self from getting boared. you were pretty muct active in tracking my socks. please believe me i am telling you truth.the pablo,bhatti8 estonian,gujar,jewish,mankialab,localtiger were my socks. the user Mumtaz Muhammed and amercanluck were not my socks. I am pretty much sorry for americanluck because i visted his page and looks like he is commiting suicide. In one comment made by him on flatout talk page he said he was very angry and dishearted because you reverted his edits. I was very sorry for that because he was innocent so i created mankialab to revert your edits.please belive in me. I am depressed because he say that he will commit suicide.plz belive me.his feelings were hurt.plz stop him.plz, plz.i am not lying to you. please blive me.I donot want to heart him. user american is real reason why i am writing this to you, other wise I will have never wrtten this to you. i am feeling very very sorry for amricanluck. american luck is not responding.Localtiger (talk) 06:49, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I have reported you as another sock. Mumtaz Muhammed and Amercanluck are confirmed socks. Please stop wasting everyone's time. ''' Flat Out    let's discuss it   06:51, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

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Hello Flat Out, I would like to contest the speedy deletion of the article I created, 'PDMS Limited'. It was unbiased and referenced thoroughly. It was about a company, however there are many Wikipedia pages about major British companies, and very few about the major companies in my home country (the Isle of Man). Regards, JohannaGledhill — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohannaGledhill (talk • contribs) 10:47, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * JohannaGledhill, thanks for your message. To be encyclopedic, articles about companies must be notable and need to meet the criteria listed at WP:CORP. The references are mainly from the company's website which is not ideal. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   11:00, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Unnecessary Page!
Hello Flat out. I have something to tell you that I thought was unnecessary. I was wondering if you could delete the page Rocky Mountain toad. Why? Well, because the Rocky Mountain toad is just a different name for the Woodhouse's toad. Trust me, I know my frog stuff. If you disagree with me, just ask me at, User talk: JimmyCrocus. Bye!
 * Hi JimmyCrocus, I don't have any authority to delete articles. I suggest you open a discussion on the talk pages of these articles and point out that you think the topic is duplicated. If you get agreement, the two articles can be merged. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   10:11, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

What do you mean you deleted the Hudson Bay toad article. It still exists. Just telling you it isn't deleted yet. And I also thinking about making an article called List of Australian amphibians or South America, and Africa too; containing a complete fully updated list of amphibians of the continent. For example: List of North American amphibians. Also, on the page, List of European amphibians are some mistakes of species that do not exist in Europe. -JimmyCrocus — Preceding unsigned comment added by JimmyCrocus (talk • contribs) 07:17, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I didn't say that Hudson Bay toad was deleted. If you see errors on articles feel free to correct them and explain why using edit summary. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   10:11, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Astrima
Why did you delete the TRiPPY article? Put it back. She is important. Thanks Kichigai — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.211.73.94 (talk) 15:13, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Are you referring to Lynne Triplett? I didn't delete the article but I did support its deletion.  I note that you are her husband, please read WP:BIO, WP:COI and WP:SOCKPUPPET. ''' Flat Out    let's discuss it   01:25, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Veera Dheera Sooran
Hi there. Your efforts are appreciated. But, considering that it turned out that the speedy nomination was declined because it was a reverse copyvio, please consider posting at her talk page to let her know. That persistent violators will be blocked from editing statement at her talk must be really strong stuff to read.

I actually spent an hour going through all her contribs and found no further copyvios. There may be more that I've missed, but I was fairly thorough.

Beware of reverse copyvios. This happens with old contribs. You can use the Waybackmachine to check.

Beware of additions that seem like original contribs. Sometimes, it's just the editor restoring some old content that was added by someone in the past.

Anyway, the editor in question does a lot of good work and is probably already upset. Your speedy nom and further post may push her away. Please think about backtracking on that. We don't want to lose her. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:27, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes well that was a total balls-up on my behalf, and I have apologised. Thanks for posting, cheers ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   14:10, 31 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Good work with the note at her page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:14, 31 August 2013 (UTC)


 * And don't feel too bad. I've actually falsely accused two editors in the past month. I vow to be enormously careful in the future. I'm very cross with myself and my carelessness. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:17, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * An error made in haste. I've been under the pump at work lately and have been doing anti-vandalism here work just to keep my hand in, speedying newly created articles etc. I know better and should have been more careful. Now, since it's Father's day here and my kids are going to wake me up at some hideous hour to give me cold toast and over-sweet coffee for breakfast, I best get off to bed. Best wishes ''' Flat Out    let's discuss it   14:24, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

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