User talk:Flat Out/Archives/2017/April

Thank you!
It's been rejected again. I'll probably work on something else for now. Thank you for the feedback though!

Imperialsheep (talk) 06:27, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

How should i add upcoming new movie Uruthikol on wiki page
Show the ways — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chennai Information Updater (talk • contribs) 06:28, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Chennai Information Updater, thanks for your question. To be notable for inclusion in wikipedia, the movie must have significant coverage in sources independent of the movie. Flat Out (talk) 06:32, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Deletion
Hi,

thank you for explaining the guidelines of wiki. Any help on how to delete a page ?

Thanks FindingNemo20 (talk) 06:44, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
 * FindingNemo20 if you blank the content, I will nominate it for speedy deletion. Flat Out (talk) 06:46, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Done

FindingNemo20 (talk) 06:48, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

About becoming an administrator

 * Thanks, I don't think I'm admin material. Flat Out (talk) 05:46, 19 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Vetting says you are, my friend. However, it is entirely your choice. Best wishes and thank you anyhow! :) :) :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:48, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * From what I've seen, Flat Out, you have the correct temperament although I haven't really examined all your edits. You're in the window for consideration so if you'd like to contribute by protecting the rest of us contributors, now might be the time to act. Of course, adminship isn't for everyone and RfA itself may not be so much fun, anyway. I'd never do it but maybe you ought. Going to WP:ORCP is free. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 05:56, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you, It's not for me :) Flat Out (talk) 23:20, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you to you, in fact. I hope you reconsider sometime in the future, but it's totally okay if you don't. My very best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:25, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I did the poll and the first 2 editors who don't know reckon they'd vote no, so I just think I'll just keep doing what I do ;) Flat Out (talk) 05:09, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, my friend. I read the responses and it looked like a 50-50 shot if you ran today and way higher if you spent a few months in areas lacking. Not bad, but as you said, adminship is not your thing. That's fair. You're not missing anything. It's basically donating work rather than fun. I still prefer the fun and freedom. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:16, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Squizzy Taylor
Hi there

Re : Wiki page for Squizzy Taylor

As I understand, you reversed my edit to this page in which I changed Taylor's birthplace to Brighton – the location which has been mentioned over the years in most, if not all, writings about the notorious Melbourne criminal.

As you will be aware, the current Wiki page states that Taylor was, apparently (and somewhat amazingly), born in two different locations on the same date – neither of which is Brighton and neither of which appears to be confirmed by any information that's contained in the references at the end of the page ,or certainly not in any that I've checked so far.

The text under the first section, headed Early Life states (quote) “Born in Williamstown, Victoria on 29 June, 1888, Taylor was the second youngest child of Benjamin Isaiah Taylor, coachmaker, and Rosina Taylor (nee Jones)”. Yet, the reference link (5) at the end of this sentence takes us to a web page of the Australian Dictionary of Biography which also, clearly states, that Taylor was born in Brighton.

The second sentence that appears in the Early Life section states (quote) “The family struggled financially and, after the family coachmaking business was sold by creditors in 1893..” At this point another reference link (6) takes us to information that The Argus, (Melbourne), 28 October, 1893, P.2 should be consulted. Reading that source on the Trove website ,we find an auction listing for the insolvent estate of Isaiah Taylor to be held on Taylor's premises at (quote) “ New Street, Brighton – Near Bay Street”.

The first reference (21) that appears in the section headed Fitzroy Vendetta takes to P.8 of The Northern Times (Carnarvon, WA), November 5, 1927 – a piece titled “Squizzy Taylor's Life of Crime”. The first sentence of the third paragraph states (quote) “Leslie Taylor, alias Leslie Grout, alias Michael McGhee, was born at Brighton in 1884 …. “

Former chief crime reporter for “The Herald” and Brighton resident, Alan Dower states on page 7 of his book Deadline (Hutchinson of Australia, 1979) that Taylor was the quote “.... son of an honest family in the Melbourne suburb of Brighton”. Mr Dower's father was a senior Melbourne CIB detective in the 1920s.

Hugh Anderson, states on P.1 of his book Larrikin Crook - The Rise and Fall of Squizzy Taylor (The Jacaranda Press, 1971) that  quote “Taylor was born on 29 June 1888 intro a respectable working man's family, the second youngest of five children. His father, Benjamin, was then a young coach builder in the leafy, comfortable village of Brighton about nine miles from the centre of Melbourne, who was forced during the economic crisis of the 1890s to seek work in the depressed inner suburb of Richmond”

Irrespective of the above, however,I have never, personally, seen any original, official government documents that conclusively state where and when Taylor was born. If you have, then I would appreciate being pointed in the right direction. Until then, most sources do, indeed, seem to favor Brighton as being Taylor's place of birth.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by SixtiesSensation (talk • contribs) 06:19, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

If you are going to change it then it's best to give a reference or point to a talk page post in your edit summary. Cheers. Flat Out (talk) 06:47, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Re: Squizzy Taylor
No. Makes a lot more sense to leave the page the way it is i.e. ridiculously contradictory and obviously wrong. What sort of editor allows a page to remain uncorrected which gives two different places of birth - neither of which is correct, based on the available evidence ? Every reference that I've checked that is currently provided at the bottom of the page clearly states that Taylor was born at Brighton. Anyway.. up to you. I have to move on.

SixtiesSensation — Preceding unsigned comment added by SixtiesSensation (talk • contribs) 12:22, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * that's not what I'm suggesting. If you make the change, either provide an inline citation to support the change (seeing as you believe you have references) OR use the edit summary to refer other editors to the article's talk page, where you leave an explanatory note. Flat Out (talk) 00:28, 24 April 2017 (UTC)