User talk:Flatlemon

September 2022
 You have been blocked from editing from certain pages (Marie Bashkirtseff) for a period of 1 month for disruptive editing. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) If you reply here, please ping me by using  in your reply. 15:35, 15 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Could you please explain your decision? I'm baffled. Have you seen the history of edits made by Ушкуйник? The user has been subject to numerous warnings through the years for their disruptive editing of content that relates to historical figures of Ukrainian origin. They keep removing references to Ukraine and Ukrainian heritage of artists, writers, and political figures from their biographies, citing questionable reasons and sources (one example is encyclopedia.com which inaccurately states that Bashkirtseff was born outside of "Kiev" when in fact she was born outside of Poltava).
 * How do I get help here? Could you explain? I'm not a professional Wikipedia editor - hence my lack of contribution history. I'm currently researching Bashkirtseff's life, and I noticed Ушкуйник's disruptive activity on her page. I wasn't the only one to point it out and to try and reverse their edits. What exactly am I getting blocked for? And why doesn't Ушкуйник get the same treatment? Given Ушкуйник's disruptive history on Wikipedia, I'm urging you to reconsider.
 * To address the "controversy", Marie Bashkirtseff was born in Poltava oblast, in the heart of Ukraine which yes, back then was part of the Russian Empire and was referred to as Little Russia. Today, Bashkirtseff is celebrated as a Ukrainian artist by scholars and art institutions around the world (here are some links: https://www.clarkart.edu/microsites/women-artists-in-paris/about-the-artists/marie-bashkirtseff, https://www.academia.edu/25715232/MARIE_BASHKIRTSEFF_Ukraines_cultural_ambassador_to_nineteenth_century_France_Cultural_Diplomacy_feature_Business_Ukraine_Magazine_March_2016_). She spent most of her life in Europe, but part of her family lived always on the territory of Ukraine, and Bashkirtseff visited Kharkiv, Kyiv, and Gavrontzi often. Flatlemon (talk) 16:01, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Note: user is still attempting to push POV in other articles. -Mellk (talk) 22:07, 15 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @Mellk How is Dnipro river being spelled correctly a... POV? Genuinely curious :) Please, explain. Flatlemon (talk) 22:19, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The article is Dnieper, not Dnipro, as already mentioned. Mellk (talk) 22:21, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Mellk The article where you corrected the spelling is about Dnipropetrovsk Oblast which is in Ukraine. The river is called Dnipro in Ukraine, because in Ukraine the official language is Ukrainian. Since the article is related to the geography of Ukraine - not Russia - it is therefore you pushing your POV. Not the other way around :) Flatlemon (talk) 22:26, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * This is English Wikipedia. What the official language is in Ukraine is irrelevant because we follow WP:COMMONNAME, which is why the article on the river is called Dnieper. And what does Russia have to do with it? It is not being spelled as Dnepr. Mellk (talk) 22:30, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Mellk Oh, no, I don't seem to see the word Dnieper anywhere on this list you shared! But thank you for the link though. As far as I can tell, Dnipro corresponds to the listed criteria of Recognizability, Naturalness, Precision, Concision, Consistency. Seems like even BBC is using the word Dnipro now - see here https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62738160. Oops. So perhaps, both words could be used, as it's indeed a matter of POV? And of course Russia has nothing to do with this, or you. No worries :) Flatlemon (talk) 22:42, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It clearly says it is a list of examples, you're kidding right? Cherrypicking one source means nothing. You can try a WP:RM for the article Dnieper but it will be quickly rejected. Mellk (talk) 22:50, 15 September 2022 (UTC)