User talk:FloPoPeople/Coolify Thy Wall

Coolify Thy Wall was a very funny and popular play in high school, and it should be shared with the rest of the world. If needed, I will include the script for the actual play. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FloPoPeople (talk • contribs) 21:56, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * If it needs shared with the rest of the world, then record a performance and put it on YouTube. Wikipedia is not a platform for self-promotion or other advertising. —C.Fred (talk) 22:02, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

I understand, but why can you not just keep it on wikipedia? There are no other plays named Coolify Thy Wall.


 * Because there is no notable play named Coolify Thy Wall. Therefore, Wikipedia needs no article here. —C.Fred (talk) 22:06, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

What if we make it notable?


 * After than happens, it can have an article. I mean, this play, according to its article, hasn't even been performed yet. —C.Fred (talk) 22:09, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

That's a very good catch. It's actually a school project, and our date is March 31st. A teacher has been arranged to videotape it.


 * Your date? Tell me again why your play needs an article. It sounds like you're trying to advertise it. —C.Fred (talk) 22:11, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

We don't want to advertise because we don't need to. It's just a class project, and we just wanted to put a brief summary of it on Wikipedia. If I take off its debut, would it eliminate the advertising? —Preceding unsigned comment added by FloPoPeople (talk • contribs) 22:21, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * It's non-notable regardless. I deleted it as self-promotion, but if it went through a full discussion deletion, it would still ultimately be deleted because it makes no assertions of notability. —C.Fred (talk) 22:23, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * This author is apparently young obviously new to wikipedia. Let's try not to bite the newbees. Flo, you have to understand that this is an encyclopedia, and as such, there are certain guidelines to which we must adhere so we can maintain inegrity. Check out WP:NOT and WP:N to better understand why your article is not acceptable. Cheers!--Sallicio$\color{Red} \oplus$ 22:27, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I've been trying not to bite. Previous incarnations of this article have been speedy deleted without discussion. I'm trying to explain why it's not appropriate before deleting it outright. —C.Fred (talk) 22:46, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Where did C.Fred go? He answered my questions, and you, Sallicio, are not.


 * Sallicio hit the points that I've alrady brought up before:
 * The article was one of the things that should not be in Wikipedia.
 * It also failed a key guideline by not being about a notable subject.
 * It had no reliable sources that would prove the subject's notability.
 * As a general rule, school productions are not notable. There are some exceptions, such as THX 1138. But those are rare exceptions to the rule, and your play does not appear to be one. 22:36, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Why did you already delete it? I could have come up with something to change it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FloPoPeople (talk • contribs) 22:41, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

What if I don't include anything about junior high students or self-promotion?


 * I will be glad to help you recreate it, if you can demonstrate how it meets the criteria of notability and where it's covered in independent, reliable sources. —C.Fred (talk) 22:45, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

The problem is that it is not covered in any independent sources. Hardly anybody knows about it.


 * Exactly! That means it is not verifiable, and as it says below the edit window, "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable" (emphasis added). Verifiability is one of the two requirements for an article. —C.Fred (talk) 22:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Can you make it a link or something from Pimp My Ride?


 * No. Again, it's not notable enough to get a mention there. —C.Fred (talk) 22:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

I see that on your talk page, you talk about yourself. Can I make Coolify Thy Wall an account and make the article a talk page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by FloPoPeople (talk • contribs) 22:50, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * No, you really shouldn't. However, if you want to create it at User:FloPoPeople/Coolify Thy Wall, it should be okay. —C.Fred (talk) 22:53, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the information and for being so kind. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FloPoPeople (talk • contribs) 22:54, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I've taken the liberty of moving this discussion out of article space. -- VectorPotentialTalk 22:58, 23 March 2008 (UTC)