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March 2012 MOTD's award for helping the project in a difficult time
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Adoption
Hey! Still up for adoption? I am happy to help you settle in! I see you are involved in a project already, which is good. Anyways, drop me a note if you are still interested!  Kinkreet ~&#9829;moshi moshi&#9829;~ 02:49, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
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Talkback
I already had Twinkle installed, but I'm not sure exactly what I can do with it. Oddly enough, I don't remember seeing the Talkback button before :/
 * A wise man once said, if one can utilize Twinkle, one can rule the world. When you are reading an article, and you feel it doesn't look like a complete Wikipedia article, you can use it to tag the page with maintenance tag; why don't you try that with Special:NewPages, a lot of these pages need maintenance tags. If you have already done that, then can you tell me what you want to learn? I can point you in the right direction (Wikipedia is pretty vast). Peace x  Kinkreet ~&#9829;moshi moshi&#9829;~ 16:36, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:AndieM13/status
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Speedy deletion declined: User:Jweston1
Hello AndieM, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of User:Jweston1, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Clearly not vandalism, this is a user making test edits on their own userpage. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. -- Lear's Fool 13:51, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That's all right. Sorry for the trouble. AndieM    (Am I behaving?'')  14:33, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries. It's good to see new editors trying their hand at new-page patrolling, just make sure you take your time while you're learning. Please feel free to hit me up on my talkpage if you have any questions whatsoever. -- Lear's Fool 14:43, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome
Thank you. --Zawadska (talk) 04:49, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! Just tell me on my talk page if you have any problems or are unsure of something. AndieM    (Am I behaving?'')  05:55, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

speedy deletion
Hello, I tagged Gireesh chemrakadan for speedy deletion A7 because the user who created is also by the name User:Gireesh chemrakadan and he has also removed your tag. By the way sorry for any trouble. Happy editing. Solomon7968 (talk) 06:38, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It's all right. I guess it just meets both criteria then. The user contested the deletion because he didn't understand the criteria and I left him a note. AndieM    (Am I behaving?'')  06:40, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

You good?
Hey AndieM, seems like you've been quite busy on WP, is everything OK? Need a hand with anything?  Kinkreet ~&#9829;moshi moshi&#9829;~ 19:16, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm doing really well. At the beginning I wasn't sure what I would do on WP but I think I've found my calling in fighting vandalism. Thank you for your help! AndieM    (Am I behaving?'')  15:48, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

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The Costa Report
Hi Andie, Thank you for your help with moving user: The Costa Report to The Costa Report (an article). I have created it as an article but now I don't know how to get rid of the user one. I chose The Costa Report as a user name because I thought I was naming the page. I would be happy to change that too but I don't know how. Suggestions? Thanks again! Linda — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Costa Report (talk • contribs) 18:09, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It looks like you have been blocked for having an inappropriate username. Just create a new account; there should be no problem with that. AndieM    (Am I behaving?'')  18:49, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined
Hi AndieM. Thank you for your work on patrolling new pages and tagging for speedy deletion. I'm just letting you know that I declined your deletion request for Skyflite london, a page that you tagged for speedy deletion, under criterion A3 because the criterion you used or the reason you gave does not cover this kind of page. because author blanked the page, it qualifies for G2 Please take a moment to look at the suggested tasks for patrollers and review the criteria for speedy deletion. Particularly, the section covering non-criteria. Such pages are best tagged with proposed deletion, proposed deletion for biographies of living persons, or sent to the appropriate deletion discussion.  Yash  t  101   11:37, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I was unaware it had been blanked. Thank you! AndieM    (Am I behaving?'')  11:39, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah..Its okay, it happens to me also many times. Please take care of one thing before tagging pages; View the history, because, there might also be a vandal work by someone which makes the article qualify for CSD or PROD or AfD though in reality it isn't. It happens rarely so no need for all articles, but in case of a article qualifying for A1 or A3, always do it. I saw your edits. They are really good, and yes, you are behaving well. Happy patrolling!  Yash  t  101   11:45, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the corrections and....um, Kind words :)
 Yash  t  101   12:11, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

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downdside
no it is not a single issue account, but only an attempt to get agreement first before the page is posted if you actually bothered to read the talk page. now i suggest you talk to you local police to see what personal danger you are in. i am fed up. you can type your lies but they know the danger — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bunglezippy (talk • contribs) 23:08, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi AndieM. The Wikimedia emergency team have been made aware of this threat, and are investigating. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 10:10, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * This is odd, considering I live nowhere near Somerset.  AndieM    (Am I behaving?'')  11:44, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk page archiving
Hi Andie. I notice that you've just manually archived your talkpage (after the Downside issue, your pages show up on my watchlist). I don't know if you're aware, but there are automated systems that can do this rather onerous task for you - I use MiszaBot, which works very well. It's pretty straightforward to use; just add the following code: "" to the top of your userpage and the bot will do the rest. Instructions on how to change the parameters to suit your personal preferences are here (the setup above will archive all threads older than one week into datestamped archives). There's no need to do this if you don't want to - nothing wrong with manual archiving - but I thought you might like to know that the option's there. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 13:22, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I've set it up. Thank you! AndieM    (Am I behaving?'')  13:35, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Cool
Cool coincidence Ma'am. You born in Bombay 14yrs ago, I shifted into Bombay 14 years ago. Even more interesting coincidence is that both of us joined Wikipedia at the age of 13. Happy editing. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 06:59, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
 * That is actually quite interesting :) However, there really is no need to be so formal; I'm just Andie to you. Happy editing to you too! AndieM    (Am I behaving?'')  16:57, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I've had a bit of a problem being informal at times. Don't ask why. It's possibly because I've dealt with so many IPs who assume that they're right. : ). Chhers, --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 08:16, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

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...was it you on twitter?  Yash  t  101   03:53, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was. I found your Twitter account on your user page. AndieM    (Am I behaving?'')  12:49, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thats great! For the first time someone did this, otherwise it was always me who approached others, Thanks :)  Yash  t  101   13:52, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Browser based CV tool
Since you said you preferred WP:TW because it's browser based, do try WP:GLOO. It's browser based. I don't know if it works on an iPad or not, never had an iPad to try it out. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 18:02, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm with my iPad right now; I'll try it :) AndieM    (Am I behaving?'')  18:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It says it'll work with Safari. Thank you for the suggestion! AndieM    (Am I behaving?'')  18:04, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yuvar welcome. However do note, you'll need permission first. You'll need to check with the developer. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 18:13, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Dan Masterson page
Thanks for your response concerning the photographs, Andie. Now that the photos are removed, are there any other problems that need to be fixed. The top of the page says that there are multiple issues. Could you recommend what to do to fix the errors?

Thanks, Brad — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.87.122.175 (talk) 18:45, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * There are people involved in projects to fix these issues. AndieM    (Am I behaving?'')  08:43, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Ichthus: May 2012


From the Editor
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As long as it is not a blatant advertisement or an attack, users are allowed considerable freedom on their user page - see WP:UP. Though this was nonsense - it looks like someone playing with the keyboard - there is no need to delete it. Since the user is new, the thing to do is add welcome or one of the other Welcome messages to give them links to some useful advice. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 09:20, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * That's all right then. I had assumed that since it was a general guideline, it would apply everywhere. My apologies. AndieM    (Am I behaving?'')  09:23, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

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Ichthus: June 2012


Membership report
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by Berthold Werner Saint Catherine's Monastery, Mount Sinai

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DYK

 * ...that Anna of Kashin, a Russian medieval princess, was twice canonized as a holy protectress of women who suffer the loss of relatives?

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Christian art
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Spotlight
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MotD Nomination for the Opening Ceremony of the London 2012 Olympics (27 July 2012)
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A barnstar for you!

 * Talking about this edit I generally use regex script or Word processor's (eg. MS Word (I do not have) so Open Office word, Libre writer)' change case, but it is not very helpful when you need to change in a column of a table or you can't use a fix formula like change to sentence case or change to each word first letter capital. -- Tito Dutta  ✉  12:37, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I get what you mean but I don't know of anything that can do that. AndieM    (Am I behaving?'')  13:29, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Toolbox
How about the alternative collapsed toolbox I made at User:AndieM/Sandbox 2? The template you were using is really for containing multiple navboxes rather than for textual lists; with  and  you have a lot more flexibility regarding the formatting of material inside. (You can easily create multiple columns in a format of your choice, for example.) Deor (talk) 21:23, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * That's great! Thank you! AndieM    (Am I behaving?'')  11:43, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

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Featured content and GA report Grade I listed churches in Cheshire was recently promoted to Featured List status. This picture was recently promoted to Featured Picture status. Bartolome de las Casas and Edmund the Martyr were promoted to GA level this past month. Our thanks and congratulations to all those involved.

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The portrait of Sir Thomas More by Hans Holbein the Younger. By John Carter

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Edit request
Hey Float. I noticed you've been helping clear up some edit requests and I just thought I'd remind you to change the answered parameter to yes. Otherwise the request still appears in the category. Thanks! Ryan Vesey Review me!  14:07, 19 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I do that most times but I do occasionally forget. Will try to remember from now on. Floating Boat   (the user formerly known as AndieM)  14:09, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, on another note, if there's a request without the answered parameter in the template, it is easier to use ans= Ryan Vesey Review me!  14:12, 19 July 2012 (UTC)