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Illumina Records Page Deletion
I am an employee at Illumina Records and Promotions. Part of my job was to create a Wikipedia article that describes our company and states the services we provide. I noticed today that the Illumina Records page has been deleted. I was wondering why this happened and what I could do to reinstate the page?

Monkeyspace (talk) 15:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)IR Staff
 * Did you read this? Flowerparty ☀ 22:59, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

deleted page and blog help!
Flowerparty,

My name is Nicole Van Eden. I am the Vice President at Illumina Records. I am weriting for your help!

First, the blog you are referring to which was the source of our Wikipedia page deletion, is a blog which was posted by a disgruntled employee. This blog is not factual and has been spinning out of control in the past few week. The blog has become dangerous with threats to our company and employees which is why we are in the process of trying to get the blog taken down.

Our company works with and promotes over 2300 bands, and over 10,000 musicians nationwide. With all the clients we serve, we have only 6 unsatisfied customers who have posted blogs. Three of these customers have posted on the blog referenced. Same as with any company, you cannot please everyone. And with the number of clients which we have had and currently have, this is an extremely low rate of unsatisfied customers.

Although the disgruntled employee did post a completely non-factual blog about our company, i do have proof of over 50 past and present employees and unpaid interns who have worked at Illumina with positive experiences. You can see the list of their positive thoughts on illumina and experiences at the link below: www.illuminarecords.com/internbook

As you can see by the comments on the referenced blog which Illumina's staff has posted, we do show examples of credible testimonials and refferences for the company. Some of the refferences includes the legendary Toad's Place in New Haven Connecticut's general manager's quote of his positive experience working with Illumina on a show. We also show pictures of the President of Illumina, myself, and our staff with industry and business professionals. There are pictures and quotes of Illumina's work with WAAF, a major Rock Radio in Boston,MA, DC101, a major Rock Radio in Washington DC, and music business moguls such as Marty Walsh, a former member of Supertramp the band and a Berklee professor in Boston MA. You can see all of these pictures and quotes and more at the link below: www.illuminarecords.blogspot.com

You can also see the legitimacy of our company through over 800 articles Illumina has recieved and had published for the bands we do work for. We have received articles from credible major and college newspapers nationwide. You can view there articles at: www.illuminarecords.com/press

Lastly, the below link to the secretary of state of Massachusetts shows that Illumina is a legitimate and registered business under Illumina Media. http://corp.sec.state.ma.us/corp/corpsearch/CorpSearchSummary.asp?ReadFromDB=True&UpdateAllowed=&FEIN=050631192

You had mentioned our Wikipedia page was deleted because it was written in the first person. I'm not sure what the means and it is a top priority to Illumina to have our Wikipedia page back up as soon as possible. Please help me figure out how to do this and exactly what to write for the content of the page, so this page is not deleted again.

I appreciate any and all help. I am not sure what to do or where to go from here.

Thank you so much.

Illuminarecords (talk) 20:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)Nicole Van Eden


 * 'I've sent them all!' the King cried in a tone of delight, on seeing Alice. 'Did you happen to meet any soldiers, my dear, as you came through the wood?'


 * 'Yes, I did,' said Alice: 'several thousand, I should think.'


 * 'Four thousand two hundred and seven, that's the exact number,' the King said, referring to his book. 'I couldn't send all the horses, you know, because two of them are wanted in the game. And I haven't sent the two Messengers, either. They're both gone to the town. Just look along the road, and tell me if you can see either of them.'


 * 'I see nobody on the road,' said Alice.


 * 'I only wish I had such eyes,' the King remarked in a fretful tone. 'To be able to see Nobody! And at that distance, too! Why, it's as much as I can do to see real people, by this light!' Flowerparty ☀ 23:15, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

You cannot help
Does this mean you are not able to help me? Did you have a chance to research the links i sent you in the previous email? Any and all advice would be extremely helpful-Nicole Van Eden —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.229.235.53 (talk) 20:31, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You have a conflict of interest. We generally encourage people not to write articles about themselves or about subjects they're involved with. If your company deserves an article someone will create one soon enough. Flowerparty ☀ 21:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

The Capitol (Hong Kong)
Could you tell me why The Capitol (Hong Kong) was deleted? Don't tell me this is due to lack of notibility. If so, I would like ask you why LOHAS Park can still be reserved. The Capitol is phase I of LOHAS Park! Don't tell me you know LOHAS Park, but don't know The Capitol. Ricky@36 (talk) 12:58, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know anything about either, fella. I deleted it because it had been tagged for deletion for 7 days and no one had contested the tag. I've restored the article. I'd suggest if the two subjects (Capitol and LOHAS) are closely related you might want to combine them into a single article. If the articles covered more general topics people would probably be less inclined to view them as unworthy of inclusion. Flowerparty ☀ 14:11, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I added the "merge" tag. The reason why I separate this The Capitol (Hong Kong) was created independently is because the Chinese version of The Capitol (Hong Kong) and Lohas Park are added independently. Ricky@36 (talk) 14:20, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Ben Hill talk page
Thanks, my bad. >_< æron phone home  12:49, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

please get that article posted. He is only the most popular teacher in nepal. I may rewrite that article properly —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.161.89.167 (talk) 00:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

AFD
I saw that you made a decision on AFD so I am asking for your unofficial opinion.

Is this article worthy of deletion? It doesn't have much written on it. On the other hand, bad article writing is not as much as factor (or is not a factor???) as notability. However, is a train stop notable? What other criteria are important? Or are all train stops notable? All high schools are notable, that is a Wikipedia custom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaminog%C5%8D_Station

User F203 (talk) 14:45, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Debating whether or not something is 'notable' is generally a fraught and ultimately fruitless exercise. The only real measure of whether we should carry an article on something is whether there are sources we can cite that cover the topic in detail. Train stations are generally the subject of at least some local attention when they are built, so there should be sources available covering this one, I'd imagine. Flowerparty ☀ 14:54, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band‎
I think here magnum opus is meant in the sense of "masterpiece", rather than a volume of work. However, I do agree with your previous tag removal, because it seems bizarre to me that this is not a Good, nor even a Featured article, as it deserves to be. The Beatles' articles seem to have been reasonably free of drama for a while, so it might be worht a drive to get this articles sorted out. Rodhull andemu  02:01, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I get the intended meaning but it's still wrong to apply it here, see or our magnum opus article. The refs calling it a magnum opus are fairly iffy too. And I agree, it absolutely should be a shining beacon among album articles, somebody's gotta take ownership of this beast. Flowerparty ☀  02:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Virgilio Anderson
ah comeon man, this guy is a legend! And a big phenomenon! He's gotta have his own page! Dont u know how many youtube people have their own page?!?!
 * Too many, no doubt. Flowerparty ☀ 20:17, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Whoops
I didn't even think about a redirect - my bad there. I had actually already put both albums on the same page to later open the other and voila, there was the tracklist for one of the two versions. *LOL* Kind of sad that the two pages merged here were both very poorly done and with no infoboxes...glad I was able to fix that, I have two or three others to fix and more still to add (just found The Definitive Collection, which looks like a mammoth release, and The Best of the Ballads). Going to be a long week. =) CycloneGU (talk) 20:14, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries, have fun with that :) Flowerparty ☀ 20:17, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Template "PBSKids Shows"
Hi--I noticed the the template PBSKids Shows has been vandalized. All that is needed is a simple reversion of the most recent edit. However, I am not yet established enough to pass the Semi-Protection on the page. Could you please revert the vandalism? Thanks.--Lietk12 (talk) 01:09, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Reverted, thanks for letting us know. I don't think it needs protecting yet, looks like it's just the one editor. Flowerparty ☀ 01:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi there, I created a Wiki page about a young electro artist who is soon to be big on the music scene, you deleted it before I could finish? Could you please tell me why this is so? Cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohkayohkay (talk • contribs)
 * Your article didn't point to any coverage in reliable third-party media sources. Good luck with breaking through. Flowerparty ☀ 02:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

speedy deletion
sorry didnt realise you had replied, is there any chance you could undelete the page so i can include third party links in?
 * Do such links exist? If so I'll be happy to. Flowerparty ☀ 02:56, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

?
 * I've restored it as your userpage. Flowerparty ☀ 03:00, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

thanks, did you get my sources links? do they qualify? x

sources?
yes =) do these count?

http://underage.youthmusic.org.uk/watchrate/2737/ohkay/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTP4n0_XsIw

http://www.neonnation.co.uk/#/events/4533872803

http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/6/theatre-reviews/9117/music-man

http://www.nodanwnews.co.uk/archives/years/2004/january/region03.htm
 * Not really. You're mentioned in them but nothing more. Read Reliable sources for an idea of what's needed. Flowerparty ☀ 03:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

oh i see! what about a newspaper article? would that count as a source then?
 * If it's specifically about you, then yes it would go some way to establishing you as notable. Flowerparty ☀ 03:12, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

right i get it :D thank you, if i come to you next week with the link to the article could i get my page back up again haha, cheers.
 * It's not been written yet, huh? Sure, good luck with it. Flowerparty ☀ 03:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

its in the rossendale free press but its not up on the site yet :( awkward! thanks haha challenging

Jackson template
Haha, I try to be! Actually, I was only even on the template because I've been inspired by his tragic demise to get some of his earlier albums, and I happen to be ripping them onto iTunes as we speak! GiantSnowman 18:04, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Deletion review for Arthur Kade
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Arthur Kade. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Stifle (talk) 16:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I already commented. Flowerparty ☀ 16:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Page deleted
This page has been created again as This.That too would be deleted, because font is himself sites. It's so easy to controll with register.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.37.158.201 (talk) 10:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Deleted the first. Not sure what you're saying is the problem with the second. Flowerparty ☀ 11:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Asking about deleting Trino.
Could you explain why did you delete Trino (video game) page?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trino_(video_game)
 * It went through a deletion discussion, where the commenters seemed to agree it didn't meet the standard for inclusion: Articles for deletion/Trino (video game). Flowerparty ☀ 08:26, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Tina Turner
Hi. I can your concern, and actually, there are a couple (or more) pages in the see also section which do not have to be there. List of female rock singers and Best selling music artists are the top two, and I think I will take those out. Those are self evident. I'm quite ambivalent about List of artists who reached number one on the Hot 100 (U.S.) and List of artists who reached number one on the U.S. Dance chart would follow and those are relatively recent additions, I think. List of honorific titles in popular music, however, is the last one I'd consider, especially considering that title is mentioned in the lead paragraph of the article and is less obviously something one would consider looking through Wikipedia to find. That's my take on it. Wildhartlivie (talk) 00:49, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

List of honorific titles in popular music
Can I ask why you have removed the above internal link from the Jimmy Cliff article. For that matter, List of performers on Top of the Pops too ? Thanks,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:13, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Neither seems particularly relevant. Thousands of artists must have performed on TOTP, are we to include a link to the complete list in each of their biographies? And the other is just trivia really, rendered meaningless by the lack of context. I would suggest you reinsert it in a suitable place in the article if you want it linked, but I just checked and Jimmy cliff isn't even featured in that list. Go figure. Flowerparty ☀ 13:26, 3 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Have restored the apparently perfectly reasonable internal link you deleted as spam (!) over at Louis Jordan. Is there any particular policy you are following? If so, please explain, revert and accept my apologies.--Technopat (talk) 22:43, 5 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Ditto B. B. King. There are others, but am interested in rationale. "Go figure" doesn't help much.--Technopat (talk) 22:50, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Not policy per se, I just objected to the mass addition of this link in the biography of every individual listed. If you want to keep it in those articles that's fine. My thinking was this. It's trivia: the people on that list form no coherent set, and if it was a category ("Honorific titles in popular music") it would be deleted. Sticking the link in the 'see also' section instead strikes me as gaming the system. Also the link title is fairly meaningless when divorced of context, requiring the reader to click on it just to find out what an "honorific title" is. A few pages pipe the link with the first mention of the nickname, King of Pop, which seems ok. I notice it's not actually mentioned on King's page that he was known as the King of the Blues, which perhaps gives the measure of how important this information is. Anyway, I'll leave it with you, since you seem to be active in those articles. Flowerparty ☀ 05:23, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Greetings Flowerparty. Thanks for reply & rationale. Way I see it is that the link to another article helps lighten the "mother" article by providing access to other sources which may not be considered important enough for the main article (i.e. what might be considered trivia in one article might well be relevant elsewhere). I'm not sure that it's "gaming the system", I reckon it's more a case of making optimum use of internal links.


 * As for whether or not the "List of honorific titles..." is a coherent set, I don't see how deleting links to it solves that particular issue. If you read the history (not really worth it, but interesting as an analysis of how consensus can be reached) you'll see by my early involvement in that article that I was never actually all that keen on it. I was simply trying to wikify it while it was up and help out an inexperienced editor who was being set upon by other more experienced editors who were AfDing it. It was then taken over by a few administrators and I left for greener pastures. I realise that's not much of a rationale for an article, but as it stands, it is certainly more complete than many (most?) other lists and seems harmless enough. Maybe not everyone's idea of what an encyclopaedia is or should be, but there again, Wikipedia isn't really meant to be that... Regards, --Technopat (talk) 00:24, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

It is remarkable that that list has gone through three afds and ended up looking as smart as it does. I still think it's based on a wp:synthy premise, as demonstrated by the lede's attempt to define the term "honorific title" with reference to a couple of throwaway newspaper mentions that don't even appear to use the term. Deleting links to it is not the same as deleting the list though. Note also that the musicians listed are included in many other lists, all of which would no doubt benefit from a boost in traffic. Flowerparty ☀ 05:29, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Agreed re. synth. On the other hand, the issue of list is complicated. In principle I think they often serve a useful purpose, but not sure where to draw the line... --Technopat (talk) 22:41, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

SMcCandlish
Thanks for updating the RFA, all that's left is for the editor to accept the nom. –BuickCenturyDriver 13:06, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, no problem. Looked like you were having trouble. Someone should should update this page really, it's a mess. Flowerparty ☀ 13:15, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

page deleted
is recreated —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.37.158.201 (talk) 07:16, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Illumina Records
Flowerparty,

I am an employee at Illumina Records. As you are aware, we attempted to create our own Wikipedia page without knowing that articles are not to be created by members of our company. We have decided not to pursue the creation of our own article and will hope that someone will create a Wikipedia page about our company on their own volition. That being said we notice that you have falsely stated that Illumina Records is a scam in your reason for speedy deletion. I assure you that we are a legitimate company and ask that you retract your statement as it is slanderous. If you would like further evidence of our legitimacy, please look to the following websites:

Registered Business by the Massachusetts Secretary of State Better Business Bureau of Massachusetts  Links to Various Newspaper Articles About Illumina Records  Testimonials from Past Interns —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.182.64 (talk) 17:16, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Personal problems?
Premesso che si capisce benissimo che sei italiano... did you get some personal problems with someone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.69.111.46 (talk) 06:30, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Carina Axelsson deletion
Hey, sorry I missed the discussion about deleting Carina Axelsson. I think her claim to fame is sleeping with a minor German princeling; she's an ex-model of a blink-and-you-miss-it career, and her books are all published by high-end vanity presses which refuse to release any data about sales. If we were to open discussion about deleting her, again, should I contact some of the prior participants? I mean, I've slept with some minorly notable material, and I don't think that warrants a page for me :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by ProperlyRaised (talk • contribs)
 * Oh yeah? I once shook hands with Ian McKellen :) You're not obliged to notify anyone if you re-nominate it, no. This woman does seem to be popular in Swedish tabloids though, so I don't know whether you'd succeed in getting it deleted. Flowerparty ☀ 20:19, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

your closure of Articles for deletion/Blastoise
I can respect your decision that there was no consensus on Articles for deletion/Blastoise, however, I don't understand why you say AfD is the wrong forum. Many times the results of an AfD are to redirect; isn't that the purpose of AfD, to garner consensus about whether an article should be kept, deleted, or redirected (the latter of which is pretty much a delete)?  Artichoker [ talk ] 01:34, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well it's called articles for deletion for a reason. You should only nominate an article for deletion if you actually want the article (and its history, crucially) deleted. If you think the article should be merged or redirected somewhere then you should just go ahead and do the merge, or if someone reverts you then you need to seek consensus for the merge through other channels. An rfc night be appropriate, as someone mentioned in the discussion. Afd is only a place to build consensus about deleting stuff, and since you didn't need the article deleted there wasn't really any need for the afd. Flowerparty ☀ 09:03, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * it seems that someone has gone and done just that now, however they are not understanding what consensus actually is, and have restricted it to a vote. i have tried explaining what consensus is multiple times to both  and, but i think that b/c of my disagreements with them they prefer to ignore me.  perhaps you could find a better way of explaining how to go about this. --&#65279;ΖαππερΝαππερ BabelAlexandria 14:25, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. I don't particularly wish to get involved in a content dispute over pokemon. If you can't sort it out amongst yourselves then take it to wp:dr. Flowerparty ☀ 14:38, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * lol.... i can appreciate that, thanx neways :) happy editing --&#65279;ΖαππερΝαππερ BabelAlexandria 15:13, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Common pub names in Australia
I've just spent the best part of an hour trying to find this page having been referring to it at times over the past few months and would request that it be restored. I agree the article was not sustainable in its current form but I would disagree intensely with suggestions regarding notability criteria. Can the article please be restored. Additionally the deletion debate suggests that one of the reasons is a lack of verifiable sources, may I suggest http://www.gdaypubs.com.au/names.html for some statistical grounding. Flage (talk) 04:19, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I've restored the page in your userspace. I don't think it should be moved back to article space in its current state but you're welcome to have a go at fixing it up. Not sure that link you give would count as a reliable source though. Perhaps if you can source a decent list you could include it in the Australian pubs page? Flowerparty ☀ 12:25, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Thankyou, I tend to agree. However, even if the article cannot be made encyclopaedic and useful, it still is a useful resource for my purposes even in its current state. Apologies for the aggressive tone of the previous post.Flage (talk) 11:40, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Michael Charles Edwards
Please review your closure. You see to have used only thee WP:BIO GNG, not the guideline at WP:PROF. DGG (talk) 15:14, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * To be honest I tend to think all the so-called specific notability guidelines are an unnecessary shoal of red herrings, and more trouble than they're worth - if a subject doesn't meet wp:n that should be the end of it. Anyway, looking at wp:prof the only point he may meet is no 1 - significant impact in his field. I don't think such impact was demonstrated in the discussion - he's not the main author in the papers you cited and it can be misleading to go purely on the number of cites. I don't think there was anything wrong with the close but feel free to take it to DRV. Flowerparty ☀ 15:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

William John Sweeney
Hello. Just to inform you that I've taken the deletion discussion to AfD, so you might want to contribute there, where I've given my reasons in more detail. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 08:35, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting us know. I don't feel strongly enough to vote one way or the other but I'll watch to see what happens. Flowerparty ☀ 13:36, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Jellybass
Hi. This PROD has been de facto challenged by the restoration of the content by a contributor. I went on ahead and restored the history for attribution reasons, but I have procedurally listed it (including quoting your PROD statement) for AfD, Articles for deletion/Jellybass. Wanted to let you know in case you still feel it doesn't merit inclusion. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:17, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah I spotted that but hadn't got round to doing anything about it. Thanks for saving me a job! Flowerparty ☀ 14:31, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Illuimna Records Again
Flowerparty,

I am an employee at Illumina Records. As you are aware, we attempted to create our own Wikipedia page without knowing that articles are not to be created by members of our company. We have decided not to pursue the creation of our own article and will hope that someone will create a Wikipedia page about our company on their own volition. That being said we notice that you have falsely stated that Illumina Records is a scam in your reason for speedy deletion. I assure you that we are a legitimate company and ask that you retract your statement as it is slanderous. If you would like further evidence of our legitimacy, please look to the following websites:

Registered Business by the Massachusetts Secretary of State [2] Better Business Bureau of Massachusetts [3] Links to Various Newspaper Articles About Illumina Records [4] Testimonials from Past Interns [5] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.182.64 (talk) 17:16, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I am leaving this message again because you did not respond the first time. Please remove the false statement calling Illumina Records a scam. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.182.64 (talk) 14:44, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Deletions to Peel page
Hello Flowerparty, I was a little dismayed that you deleted the following from the John Peel page: "He fronted and provided voice-overs for a large number of other programmes in his long career. Never someone to shy away from controversial topics, Peel agreed to front a 1994 one-off documentary for Radio 1 about the use of recreational drugs by popular musicians. The programme, Lost In Music, made by an independent production company, was heavily slated by a dry BBC Review board and Liz Forgan in particular, who declared that she hoped "my children never hear this".[citation needed] However it received critical acclaim for its honest approach to a delicate subject."

As someone involved in this programme I know that it was something that he felt strongly about. I'd be happy to have it edited (to remove any hint of any potentially anti-Radio 1 sentiment you mentioned) but I do feel it has some releveance considering the subject matter. How about something like this:

"He fronted and provided voice-overs for a large number of other programmes in his long career. Peel agreed to front a 1994 one-off documentary for Radio 1 about the use of recreational drugs by popular musicians. The programme, 'Lost In Music', made by an independent production company, received critical acclaim for its honest approach to a delicate subject."

Do you think that might be OK to go back in?--Mapmark (talk) 11:35, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I took out a lot of stuff that wasn't really relevant to a short biography of Peel. He expressed his views about any number of topics over the years and supported thousands of artists; partisans of some of these topics had clearly left their mark on the page but it simply isn't possible to cover everything in a wikipedia article. Are there third party sources discussing how important this documentary was to Peel, how it was a significant event in his life? This seems to suggest he just read the voice over. If not I don't see how it's fair to give it preference over any other documentary Peel was involved with, sorry. Flowerparty ☀ 16:29, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Mmmm. fair points about the size of the article and the number of artists Peel supported, but given we couldn't possibly list every track/artist played by Peel, I felt the inclusion of this reference to his work on other areas and this documentary did reflect some of his other contributions, which surely is relevant? Yes the Independent reviewer was right to say Peel had a script for that show - but that's true of almost every radio documentary/feature ever made, and besides Peel did get involved and change certain aspects to suit his style so what the newspaper reviewer had to say was a fairly spurious point, and anyway most reviewers as we know are almost exclusively based in POV (eg: "apparently oblivious to the fact that most modern dance tracks do go on for ever" shows a complete disregard to the point of dance music!). How attached John actually felt to this particular programme we'll probably never know but the fact that he agreed to do it at that point in time was notable and I still think it's worth at least one line in a page otherwise (rightly) pretty dominated by the main thrust of his career. In addition this para contains the only reference to Peels voice-overs, so I'm asking you please to at least give it some more thought? many thanks, Mark --Mapmark (talk) 21:06, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Why are you deleting band profiles? Bring back TexA.N.S. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.169.195.238 (talk) 17:48, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Waldo C. Graphic
Hello, Flowerparty. Back in June, you closed Articles for deletion/Waldo C. Graphic as a redirect to Jim Henson's Muppet*Vision 3D. Clearly, that's what the consensus favored, so I do not fault your finding. However, since the character appeared in two different properties (in addition to Muppet*Vision, he was actually created for and first appeared in The Jim Henson Hour), I don't think a redirect to just one of those properties is appropriate (especially since the article doesn't even mention him). I believe the character is in fact notable, as apparently he was the first digital puppet. My question to you is, what should be my next step? I may be able to work on finding references sometime in the future, but for the time being, there's still the basic problem with the redirect. Powers T 23:13, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, just go ahead and unredirect it if that's what you think's best. Looking at the afd I don't think you'd likely get much angry dissent. If anyone complains you can point them here. Flowerparty ☀ 08:36, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Your use of the rollback tool
= Please do not inappropriately use the WP:ROLLBACK tool, as you have done here. If you are not rolling back an edit that is either your own, or blatant vandalism, please instead use the undo feature, and make a polite, explanatory edit summary. Thank you, Cirt (talk) 17:21, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Kigezo:Terminator
Party, salaaaam! Nimeanzisha kigezo hicho hapo juu kule kwenye Wikipedia ya Kiswahili. Lakini naona bado kina matatizo fulani ambayo my self couldn't be able to find out what exactly brings trouble into it. Ndiyo maana nimeomba msaada wako. Would you be so kind help to check it even for a few minutes? Nitashukuru sana ikiwa hivyo. Wako,--'''Mwanaharakati(Longa) 10:10, 8 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi! The Navbox template has been updated since last week. I changed it because I've been consulted with one of the MedaakWiki-tech crew member to update it in order to see a new look. I made it, but the problem still persist and I don't even know what to do in order to make it look better. If you think could have sometime to cross check them properly, do you? That's all I had. Cheers.--'''Mwanaharakati(Longa) 06:43, 10 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Salam! Party, upo? It's been a long time since I got you on my eyes. Sikuoni hapa nor kwenye Kiswahili. Are you there?--'''Mwanaharakati(Longa) 08:16, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Sekou Odinga
Regarding Sekou Odinga, I placed a comment in Articles for deletion/Sekou Odinga then noticed Articles for deletion/Sekou Odinga (2nd nomination) which you closed as "no consensus" back in June. Do you think Articles for deletion/Sekou Odinga should be tagged and left open, or should it be closed, too? Location (talk) 23:24, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello! Swahili wiki contest
Hello Flowerparty,

I've been talking to some people about organizing a swahili WP contest with some universities in kenya and tanzania; would you be interested in discussing something like this? +sj + 03:43, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Untitled (Meat Loaf album)
68.81.67.121 (talk) 13:11, 24 October 2009 (UTC)Why did you delete the Untitled album by Meat Loaf?

The Crazy World of Arthur Brown
Hi there! I am sorry to have to drag you back to a change you made in March 2006... ;-) It is this change. In the article The Crazy World of Arthur Brown you mentioned in the infobox that their next album was called Backtrack 12. I've never heard about that. What do you know about it? As far as I know, there was a second album ready in the late sixties, that was not released until 1988, under the name of Strangelands, as is mentioned in the article Crazy World of Arthur Brown (band). Thank you in advance for digging into it, and for any information you might have about it. Mark in wiki (talk) 15:45, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

texANS
Hello there, I have an assignment for a class I am taking to contribute a wikipedia article. I was interested in doing an article on texANS and saw that you had deleted it. I was curious as to why you deleted it and if it would be a bad idea for my class assignment.

Seeberga (talk) 01:30, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Roman K. Kovalev
Dear Flowerparty,

Regarding the Roman K. Kovalev deletion, why do you think he is non-notable? Are you able to read Russian, Norwegian, and Swedish? Do you have access to any search engines other than Google? Why do you not try Lexis Nexis or another academic database?

Are you considered an academic, a Ph.D., or a notable historian? What gives you the right to determine his notability? I am sure the numerous graduate students and professors from around the world that contact Dr. Kovalev regarding historical issues find him to be rather notable.

I am a former student of Dr. Kovalev, and I find his non-notable status rather outrageous and appalling. Why are you able to determine his non-notable status? Do you have any academic merit, or scholarly work published? Are you invited to conferences around the world to give lectures about events in history? I think not. You write for Wikipedia. Professors and scholars, including Dr. Kovalev, scoff at the very existence of Wikipedia. They regard this website as rubbish, and an absolute detriment to research and scholarly work. Dr. Kovalev implores his students to avoid Wikipedia at all cost, and will fail them if they use it as a research source.

Dr. Kovalev is not concerned with his status on Wikipedia, but, as a former student, I feel it is necessary to make the administrators (non-scholars) of Wikipedia aware that they really have no clue as to the merits of living scholars. The administrators do not have the necessary research skills, language skills, and access to academic databases to make a determination about notability.

That said, I am sure Dr. Kovalev will still be contacted by numerous scholars all over the world without the help of Wikipedia.

173.70.23.78 (talk) 01:54, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Former TCNJ student

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T4T Article deletion
After viewing this show on a DVD I purchased, I went to look up more on it in Wikipedia. There are several failed Adult Swim pilots (Korgoth) and several upcoming/unreleased pilots (Cheyenne) like T4T which have articles. Is there any reason why this one was deleted and those aren't? I was planning on starting the article but I figured I'd let you know beforehand. Please get back to me Theornamentalist (talk) 23:03, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

OpenInkpot article
You have deleted OpenInkpot article some time ago due to lack of reliable sources. Right, there were no sources back then. Some articles were written since: I'm not sure is it enough to show the notability, but worth a try :) --MikhailGusarov (talk) 18:56, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
 * LWN article (we even got mentioned in 2009 summary timeline)
 * News articles in linux-magazine.com and teleread.
 * Lenghty article (in German) in linux-magazin.de

a deleted page
Why is the page on Frost & Sullivan deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neildave405 (talk • contribs) 15:32, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I've taken a look at it, and it was deleted because it was written more like a promotional advertisement than a neutral encyclopedia article. Previous versions were deleted for straightforward copyright violations. If you think this is a notable company, and an article can be written in a neutral manner, I will happily restore it to your userspace so you can work on it. Please drop me a note here if you would like to do this. Rodhull  andemu  15:40, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

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kirk lombard article deletion
i'm interested in reading what was deleted about kirk lombard. no axe to grind about the deletion, just want to see what was there. any way to do this? thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.3.90 (talk) 18:48, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

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geek:
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Who is Flowerparty?
Hello,

I am looking to add to the WGLS-FM wiki page. I'd like to know who you are because I don't want to add anything without your approval. I am a member of the Executive Staff at the station. Please let me know.

Best Regards,

M.K. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wglspublicaffairs (talk • contribs) 20:53, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Several profiles are listed on Wikipedia.

Since you have posted profiles about others, please consider posting the profile of the following person, in the proper format.

Who is Kai D. Patterson?

Kai Paterson is a software engineer and entrepreneur, who is responsible for many revolutionary innovations that were ahead of their time. Mr. Patterson received his bachelor degree in mathematics from Hampton University, with minors in computer science, physics and a concentration in aerospace science.

Kai Patterson formerly served as a Senior Software Engineer, Technical Director, Development Group Coordinator and Programmer/Analyst, at AT&T/Bell Labs, ITT and NASA. Mr. Patterson's experience involves the design through the implementation of software, databases, communications systems, telephone fraud detection systems, aerospace applications, football analysis applications, and the Unix Operating System Kernel. Kai Patterson also served in the United States Marine Corps, and was commissioned officer at the rank of lieutenant. Lieutenant Patterson was Student Naval Aviator and Platoon Commander and received an honorable discharge.

The First Child Support Weekly Talk Show: by Kai Patterson

Custodial Support Forum - Weekly Talk Show: Kai Patterson created the America's first weekly television and internet talk show that exclusively deals with issues related to child support, as well as provides solutions to child support problems. The Custodial Support Forum is a weekly television workshop that helps custodial parents and noncustodial parents with problems faced with collecting, as well as paying child support. The Custodial Support Forum was created to educate custodial parents owed child support, and provide noncustodial parents with the resources available to resolve their issues. Each episode of the Custodial Support Forum tackles one of the many problems that has enabled the more than 37.5 million custodial parents to not receive adequate child support, and more than $100 billion owed in child support arrears. Kai Patterson is the Founder, Host & Executive Producer of the Custodial Support Forum.

Other Notable Inventions and Firsts by Kai Patterson

The Custodial Support Foundation: The first comprehensive child support nonprofit foundation that provides discounted legal services, in addition to utilizing the investigative, collection and apprehension services provided by Bounty Alert.

Bounty Alert: The first fugitive recovery system that provides investigative services, disseminates fugitive's mobile phone alert profiles to the general public, and provides services to apprehend individuals with felony, failure to appear and child support warrants.

AMBER Ready: The first mobile phone child safety application to enable parents to create and store their children's missing profiles in parent's wireless phones, and transmit them to police, to significantly reduce the time initiate an AMBER Alert.

Real-T-Tech: The first real estate virtual touring application to create a virtual open house to allow computer users to visit a property online, which was purchased by Prudential Real Estate.

Game Prep: The NFL's first professional football game analysis system that integrated statistics, diagrams, video and coaches notes for game plans, scouting reports and playbooks.

Notable Developments by Kai Patterson

LSA: AT&T's calling card, bill to third party, collect and cellular phone fraud detection system, to reduce the more than $16 billion in telephone fraud.

MDSS: AT&T's public payphone management system for commissions that used the first relational database, and integrated several public payphone account system, which was the largest Oracle database in 1991, as described in Oracle's annual report.

CAMS: AT&T Calling Card Management System that managed customer account information for the AT&T Universal Card, which was the first calling card and credit card combined. KOS: AT&T Bell Laboratories' Kernel Operating System for the YF/23 Advanced Tactical Fighter, which was developed by McDonald Douglas and Northrop. KOS was a version of the Unix Operating System that managed each subsystem within the entire aircraft.

ULCS: ITT's Unit Level Circuit Switch for the United States Marine Corps, which is also called the AN/TTC-42 and the first military communications system that integrated combat field radios systems with the Autovon Routing System, NATO Routing System, and all public phone systems.

Wake Attenuation Program: NASA's aerodynamic research program to develop aircrafts that produce less air turbulence, to reduce the risk of trailing aircraft accidents and control risks.

Wind Tunnel Research Program: NASA's aerodynamic research program to test the flight characteristics for the space shuttle, in addition to military, commercial and civilian aircrafts. Kai Patterson is a member of the Omega Psi Phi Fraternity, which was founded in 1911 and has many distinguished members. "Becoming a member of the Omega Psi Phi Fraternity is one of the best decisions I ever made in life" says Patterson. He pledged Omega Psi Phi at Indiana State University (XΣ Chapter), where I transferred to take the necessary aviation courses to support my Marine Corps, NASA, ITT and AT&T careers"

News Videos of Kai Patterson's Accomplishments

Real-T-Tech: NBC News profiles Kai Patterson's Real-T-Tech Program, which was purchased by Prudential MLBK and was the world's first real estate virtual tour application. Youth Alert - AMBER Ready: News 12 profiles in Manasquan, New Jersey profiles Kai Patterson's Youth Alert Program, which was the predecessor application and company to AMBER Ready. Youth Alert - AMBER Ready: NJN News 25 profiles in Manasquan, New Jersey profiles Kai Patterson's Youth Alert Program, which was the predecessor application to AMBER Ready. AMBER Ready: Several news shows edited together that profile Kai Patterson's AMBER Ready Mobile Phone Application. AMBER Ready: ABC, National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and AMBER Ready promote missing children and AMBER Ready's Child Safety Programs to parents on ABC News. AMBER Ready: ABC News profiles Kai Patterson's AMBER Ready Mobile Phone Application in San Francisco, California June 2009. AMBER Ready: Fox News 25 profiles Kai Patterson's AMBER Ready Program in Boston Massachusetts and provides the details on missing children in America. AMBER Ready: WRAL profiles Kai Patterson's AMBER Ready Program Raleigh, North Carolina with parents that acquired the AMBER Ready Mobile Phone Application in the wireless phones.

News Articles About Kai Patterson's Accomplishments

Custodial Support Foundation: CNN's Article About Kai Patterson's Custodial Support Foundation to Recognize the Child Support Problem in America.

Game Prep: Daily News article on Kai Patterson's NFL Computerized Laptop Playbook System called Game Prep.

Game Prep: Herald News article on Kai Patterson's NFL Computerized Laptop Playbook System called Game Prep.

Game Prep: Giants News Weekly article on Kai Patterson's NFL Game Analysis System called Game Prep, which was the first computerized laptop playbook system that integrated NFL videos, diagrams, pays, statistics, and characteristics. Game Prep: USA Today article on Kai Patterson's NFL Game Analysis System called Game Prep, which was the first computer laptop system that integrated NFL videos, diagrams, plays, statistics and characteristics. Game Prep: Sporting News article on Kai Patterson's NFL Computerized Laptop System called Game Prep, which issued to the Washington Redskins.

Youth Alert - AMBER Ready: Youth Alert creates the world's first wireless phone missing child recovery and safety program.

AMBER Ready: Hlisted releases article on Kai Patterson being a former NASA engineer and creating the AMBER Ready Program  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.97.52.94 (talk) 22:19, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Furious Pig


A tag has been placed on Furious Pig requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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An RfC that you may be interested in...
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Mandalavandalz article, can you please help?
Dear Flowerparty,

The grounds on which you have deleted Mandalavandalz article seem to be factually incorrect. In 2008 you classify the articles as "Solo project of a member of a band who isn't notable".

In the world of psychedelic trance, from Goa in season -95, through the Northern psychedelic outdoor party scene of the nineties, there is no other near as legendary a musician as mr. Thick himself. He is by far the single most significant influence to Suomisaundi and how it developed. There is not even context. It is his finger print from this early songs and scrappy tracker sounds. It's a kind of a restlessness.

Never a friend of publicity or popularity of any kind, Tim managed to have done hundreds of performances under various monickers across major psychedelic trance events globally. From a very early age he was the prodigy of psychedelic trance, people could not believe what he was doing with tracker on his dad's pentium. I think he was 15.

I was intimately involved with Suomisaundi throughout the nineties, and in those circles, you ask anyone whose been there since the beginning, like Jaska who founded and Exogenic, or any of the organisers or artists, Tim is a true legend and remains active up until to date.

Please re-instate Mandalavandalz page, and I'm happy to provide some factual verifiable content for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.138.13.14 (talk) 16:31, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Rami Nuri, Gopal Das, many others..
I came to Wikipedia, for what else? Research, of course. One topic of interest is my friend and guide, Rami Nuri, which as a wiki page, I see has an interesting history. I read through as much as I could, and came across a blurb about contacting the admins responsible for deleting a page.. If I'm contacting the wrong admin please let me know so I can correctly pursue this venture.

I have nothing to do with Eckankar which is the directed to page that a query for Rami Nuri now leads to.. More importantly, neither does Rami Nuri. He is an actual BEing, and should have his own page. He is a known Venusian, and RealGuide with The ALLIS, along with Gopal Das, Rebazar Tarzs, Fubbi Quantz, Yauble Sacabi, and many many others including Paul Twitchell, the founder of Eckankar. Knowledge of the RealGuides has been intentionally suppressed throughout the entirety of mankind's history, and so has the actuality of many historical events.

The RealGuides are their own BEings and belong to no organization or membership, however legitimate the group may seem. They are however here and now to assist everyone no matter what a person has decided for themselves as to what their lives are to be, with becoming more aware.. awareness supersedes belief, hope, and faith, which have become words for marketing ploy and deception. The RealGuides provide RealExperiences for everyone so everyone can WakeUP and see for themselves what is really taking place on Earth.

It is unfortunate that a few small organizations should try and covet any of these great BEings and keep them so secret. The RealGuides no longer refer to themselves as "masters" or "gurus" they are simply guides for everyone willing to step into the complete unknown and become more aware.

Of course, verification.. Yes, simple.. Look to your dreams, you will be shown verification. ChrisCourage (talk) 01:20, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox standard
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