User talk:Fluence/Archives/Sep

Hello!
I went through the Keane article and found that there have been tremendous edits from what I saw in February. I really like your determination and will to get these articles a featured status. Keep it up! And i've given my comment on the Keane featured articles page. I'll try to get in more keane fans to comment on this article since almost all are unaware of the existence of the page.Victoria Eleanor 14:52, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Your GA nomination
-- Run! 12:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

About Tom Chaplin
Hi. Recently, some unregistered user has been vandalising the article about Tom Chaplin, telling sarcastic comments about the person. However, even the talk page of the article has been vandalised. I believe you cannot edit other persons comments on the talk page so I'm asking for help to: 1.-protect the page for eviting vandalism again 2.-retire or at least do something about the vandalised talk page I've reverted the last vandalism but I wish this wouldn't happen again. So, what can I do? Fluence 23:35, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I have cleaned up some of it and blocked the most recent offending IP. I have semi-protected the article so that only established user accounts can edit (i.e., no IPs and no brand-new accounts). If something like this happens in the future, you can request at WP:RFPP to have a page protected or semi-protected, and for blatant vandalism you can post the IP or username at WP:AIV. —Centrx→talk &bull; 23:53, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you very muchFluence 23:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

No!!!
That's really bad! That idiot...does he even know who the hell Keane is??! I'll help you with the reverting so don't worry. And sorry for the Keane dropout...I don't think people understand when we say that there are only 2 websites on this planet where we can get some info! Victoria Eleanor 15:00, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Have a look at Tom Caplin's discussion and have a look at the last message on my talk. Victoria Eleanor 14:38, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Formatting proble
Hi. I edited the Keane article a few moments ago. I often use the preview to prevent mistakes editing. I checked everything was doing fine on this and uploaded it. However, when seeing the article again, I found that instead of being 31 references, there were 62, all repeated. Even the article references start with the number 32. I edited again the article and previewed. Now, the references were again numbered until 31 so I uploaded it again. For my surprise, there were 62 references again. I also checked for the history page and it also shows my last edit as having only 31 references. See this ). I don't know what can I do to revert this. Can someone help me? Fluence 00:28, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm looking now, i'll try and fix it, and/or get back to you shortly. Also: when using helpme, try not to put a space between help and me :). I'll get back to you --D e on555talk Review 00:34, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. I removed the tags and the and, in future just do the following:

== Notes == == External Links == Make it Simple! :) --D e on555talk Review 00:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I never realised that!Fluence 00:50, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * No Worries --D e on555talk Review 00:54, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Your talk page
I've noticed your talk page is 46 kb (47 now!) long: too long. Consider archiving, or I'm happy to do so for you. --D e on555talk Review 00:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, if you don't mind please :D Fluence 01:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Not at all :). Let me know if you don't like the settings. I've set it to archive anything older than 15 days (which, at the moment, will archive everything above User_talk:Fluence. I've also set it to archive to /Archives/*whatever the current month is*, feel free to change anything, but if it breaks, msg me here, or if i'm asleep or whatever :) :P email here
 * Oh, and two more things: Werdnabot (the archival bot) will start in around 4-5 hours, so you'll have to wait till then. Also: Werdnabot will not be able to tell the age, and therefore not archive anything if there is no signature/date at the end, so make sure, if people don't sign the comments add five yes, five tidles to the end of the comment. Let me know if there is anything else you need :) --D e on555talk Review 02:06, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thank you so much for helping me, I almost considered taking a break from wikipedia! Hopefully that Mekon guy would just go out for sure now! I know it must be hurting you of all the comments that you get for the Keane and SOWK articles but let me tell you these people don't know how much of hardwork goes into writing an article especially if there's not enough of sources on the net. But they'll understand this only when they do it themselves...Victoria Eleanor 14:43, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

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Keane
I realise that you are fan of Keane. That's great. But bear in mind that we are not making a publicity page of Keane and we are not obliged to conform with your wishes to have just that. I am trying as some people to have good and informative articles about these bands. Not publicity page with many info about what kind of shoes bandmembers are wearing. This information about just how well and where the band is received by the public is highly redundant and irrelevant to the type and goal of band's articles. If you browse in other post-Britpop and Britpop bands you wouldn't find any kind of information, found here. So, please, try to be reasonable and try to assume some good faith, as people like to hoarse around. I know that it must be hard to see all of you've written to go down the trashcan, but we are working on collaborative project and we are not obliged to conform with hard-liners, who want to have their "dream article", where the band are on high pedestal. The best thing you can do is to help us. But, please, please do not hinder mine and other people work.

I'm reverting the article back in form.
 * Regards: Painbearer 21:14, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I am not going to give up, man. Individual country likeness of the band is redundant information. And please have a look at all these bands the band are citing as influence. Do The Beatles, U2, Oasis, R.E.M., Genesis, The Smiths, Radiohead, Queen, The Pet Shop Boys and Paul Simon have information about how well they are received in different countries? No. Do they have such an extensive information about the equipment the band are using? No, dude. Please, have a look and you will find that what I am doing is right. I am not defending the quality of the material, but this material needs that trimming, man. We are aiming for extensive, informative and well-formed articles. Not for biography/books about these bands. I have worked on Oasis, Radiohead, R.E.M.. They bear my writings and I am just as great fan of them as you are of Keane. But, it's not about being fan. Well... in fact it is, but it's about doing the best for this. What you want is wrong man. This information is redundant, encumbrant and useless. Think it for yourself and I think that you will find it it's the most logical think to do.

I will not revert the article now. It's late. I am having great pain in my back and I need rest. I will do it tomorrow, however and I certainly hope that I will not have this discussion again.
 * Regards: Painbearer 21:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Just to let you know, on your case, I am calling for help from the Wikipedian Association of Members' Advocates, where I refered my problem with you at their Requesting page. You can feel free to turn yourself up there and express your point of view. I hope that as soon as possible we will have some resolution on this problem, because I assure you that my patience has its limits.

In my opinion you are fighting lost battle, but you just want to be as pigheaded and unhelpful, as possible.
 * Regards: Painbearer 08:06, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

You are just going to make it as difficult as possible, will you? Ok, the choice is yours, but I have to warn you that your actions may lead to your temporary blockage of Wikipedia. Personally, that's what I am for. My personal advice is to cool out. Find some girl, make some sex if you want, I don't care, just cool out and stop being such an asshole. Because, you are just heading to more trouble than you can handle.
 * Regards: Painbearer 07:09, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Painbearer you are getting personal. Dont let it - its not important enough. Fluence, please consider comments made. I have taken to editing your work because it is not yet ready for being a good candidate. Consider the grammar you use. Clearly English is not your first language so learn from what others are editing. Revert wars gain nothing however providing information on where Keane have visited - only the countries - is pointless. What does it tell anyone? I know you have put a lot of time into this however I would be happy to stop reverting if there was more information on where they played - yes 361 places or whatever. --Snecklifter 14:12, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. I think what would be good is to expand the countries section as it is at the moment with interesting facts about the band in each country. What do you think? --Snecklifter 09:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Grow up, boy and start act like a man. I have nothing against British bands. Go see pages of Radiohead, Oasis and Blur to whom I have contributed and nowhere you will find the mess that is Keane. If I were you, I would refrain from editing Wikipedia for some time, my boy. We need serious writers, not some puberscent wannabees, who can't handle the progression of Wikipedia. Either grow up, or take the consequences from your actions.
 * Good day: Painbearer 14:48, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

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Failed GA Nomination
Just so you know, I have reviewed and failed the article Somewhere Only We Know for Good Article stature. Please consult the article's talk page for the reasons why. I would be pleased to help you in any way I can to get this ready for another GA candidacy. Cheers, Deyyaz [ Talk 02:11, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, Fluence! The Mekon 14:12, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Keane
I'll take a look for you. --D e on555talk Review 00:47, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. Now I don't need to tell you what section to stay away from do i :P --D e on555talk Review 00:52, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * No worries. Yeah, WP can get a little weird sometimes :P. Let me know if you need anything else --D e on555talk Review 01:33, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Please see WP:SOCK, especially the section "advertising and soliciting meatpuppets" which you have done at http://217.154.142.24/keane/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35462 Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by administrators or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you. Richyard 17:03, 6 September 2006 (UTC) Richyard 11:01, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Don't Worry
Count on me for anything...but we'll have to stop these idiots from overtaking the Keane page. Victoria Eleanor 14:41, 8 September 2006 (UTC)