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FYI
Hello, Fluffernutter. The civility case commentary may well be old stuff to you by now, so I think I should just mention that I have made a comment pertinent to yourself here. I'm very sorry to be harking back to something that's all wrapped up — it may seem obsessive, I know — but I really was unavoidably prevented by RL from posting earlier, and it's an issue I feel strongly about. Regards, Bishonen &#124; talk 21:53, 23 February 2012 (UTC).
 * Thanks for letting me know. I've replied there. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 23:17, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

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I am now proud owner of a TUSC account! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 16:31, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Help request
Dear Fluffernutter, at your request I've changed my wikipedia name from ReynoldsBrands to Polly Ethylene. You kindly offered to help me... I'm humbling asking for that help. It bugs me when things aren't accurate... It seems the bulk of the Reynolds Group Holdings page is a history of only Reynolds Metals. I'm struggling to think through how to make it accurate since a big chunk of Reynolds Metals assets are now with Alcoa, and not Reynolds Group Holdings. Due to a 2010 merger, Reynolds Wrap is now made by a new company called Reynolds Consumer Products Inc. Putting a new company name on the current Reynolds Group Holdings Page won't make that content accurate any more than putting a new title on the former Reynolds Metals page did... (BTW, Much of the information already on the page can't be substantiated and also may not be relevant per Wikipedia's notablity guidelines for companies, anyway). Some of the information is excellent, though, but possibly should be retained under a "Reynolds Metals" listing. Anyway, I want to do this the right way with transparency. Would you mind if we talked through changes and how to properly document them? What would work best for you? I'm interested in accuracy and not promotion. (I'd rather have no listing than one that is incorrect). Thanks so much. 19:28, 27 February 2012 (UTC)~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polly Ethylene (talk • contribs)  Polly Ethylene 19:33, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm, let's see here. Be forewarned, neither metals nor business are my specialties, so I'll be flying a bit blind here, but hopefully we can suss out the best solution. So let me know if I have this timeline right: we have a company that started out in 1919 as "Reynolds Group Holdings", which contained metals, Reynolds Wrap, and other products/businesses not covered in the RGH article. Over time, the parent corporation, RGH, was bought out by Alcoa, which at the time was buying the entire thing, including Metals and Wrap. Since the buy-out, Alcoa has sold the Wrap division to someone else entirely, and that other person now operates the Wrap business as Reynolds Packaging Group. Have I got all that right?


 * If so, it sounds to me like we could need as many as four articles, depending on which of the following topics meet our notability guidelines: Reynolds Group Holdings, Reynolds Metals, Reynolds Wrap, and Reynolds Packaging Group. Of those, much of what's currently in the RGH article belongs either re-written to fit the actual timeline better, or spun out into a separate article about RM. Reynolds Wrap itself may or may not merit an article, depending on whether sources exist on the topic of RW itself rather than just aluminum foil, and my guess is that RPG is probably notable enough for an article, as a producer of a very well-known product.


 * The best way to go about this, I think, is for you to gather sources for each of the following topics: Reynolds Group Holdings, Reynolds Metals, Reynolds Wrap, and Reynolds Packaging Group. The goal is to figure out which of these is notable, verifiable, and covered extensively in reliable sources. Once you have what you think are promising sources, share them with me here on my talk page and we can go over them together and decide what number of articles they support. Then once we know what we'll need to work on, I can set you up with one or more "sandboxes" in your userspace where you can draft articles (you don't have to do it alone, even if it's in "your" sandbox - I or other editors can help you with it) without having to throw them directly into the main article space before they're ready. The hard part for you during this might end up being keeping the articles neutral - we'd need to work hard to make sure that all facets of the topics are covered, even negative aspects (if they exist...I don't know anything about Reynolds!), and that the articles don't end up being a little advertisement-y. You sound like you're very willing to engage within our guidelines for this stuff, though, so I think that would be mostly a matter of just keeping in the back of your mind our neutrality guidelines, and then having me or another editor go over the articles to double-check them.


 * So, tl;dr summary: go forth and try to find reliable, third-party (ideally non-press-release) sources for Reynolds Group Holdings, Reynolds Metals, Reynolds Wrap, and/or Reynolds Packaging Group. Report back here when you think you have enough sources to start building articles for some or all of those topics. Then the fun begins! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 19:57, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Fluffernutter, Thanks for your thoughtful and quick response! You've got it partly right. Reynolds Metals was the original company. Reynolds Packaging is a defunct company, but it did own Reynolds Wrap after Alcoa. RGHL owned it, and now owns Reynolds Consumer Products Inc. I'll need some time to pull together any documentation but I like what you are thinking on creating multiple pages. I hear you on neutrality, but you'll find I'm only about the facts and I welcome you to keep an eye out for that. Take care and I'll be in touch. Polly Ethylene 20:09, 27 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polly Ethylene (talk • contribs)

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Pending changes/Request for Comment 2012

 * I hope that barnstar has good shocks - I have a feeling we're in for a bumpy ride! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 17:32, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Regarding User:Akash Kumar Patnaik
The user requested to edit their userpage via editprotected, and I declined with a note that they ask you to unprotect. I'd recommend a followup from you on their talk page, if possible. elektrik SHOOS  (talk) 05:30, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Jeffrey Epstein
Please do not come charging into an article demanding editors behave according to your dictates. It's offensive and inappropriate. If you wish to join a discussion or start a new one, feel free to do so. The edit you accuse me of "skillfully" making (it was an accident, and your insinuation was also very inappropriate) fixed a serious BLP issue. But it appears you have not taken the time to understand the dynamics of the situation with that particular article. If you are going to use your tools, please use them responsibly. Rklawton (talk) 22:02, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

New Page Triage engagement strategy released
Hey guys!

I'm dropping you a note because you filled out the New Page Patrol survey, and indicated you'd be interested in being contacted about follow-up work. This is to notify you that we've finally released both the initial documentation about the project and also the engagement strategy, which sets out how we plan to work with the community on this. Please give both a read, and leave any comments or suggestions you have on the talkpage, on my talkpage, or in my inbox -.

It's awesome to finally get to start work on this! :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 02:30, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

unsolicited opinion
Bringing this to ANI is not a good idea, not least because of Barts1a's noticeboard ban, but also because tensions seem high. This seems a situation crying out for deescalation, and ANI has never, ever, deescalated a situation. before someone comments at the ANI thread, I suggest deleting it, and instead asking someone knowledgeable in copyright to drop by Barts1a's user page? I say this as someone who really, really is not one of Barts1a's fans: bringing this to ANI is pretty much setting him up to dig himself deeper. The solution is not really that complex, and ANI is a bad place to try to deal with it. $0.02. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:41, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
 * My main concern here is that Barts1a is apparently being given incredibly, aggressively bad information about copyright. If that's the case, he's not the one who needs to be spoken to about copyright. In any case, I posted to ANI because expert eyes need to be all over the entire situation, including the AfC, the AfD, and the user's talk page. I do see your point about escalation, and I actually share your concerns about Barts1a digging himself a hole in response, but the situation needs to be escalated, in my mind - copyvio is an extremely serious issue, and "mentors" telling people they have no rights to their copyright, etc is, well even worse. My hope is that the situation can be examined and remedied without being derailed into "yes but he used the word 'pirate', that's so mean!"


 * In any case, on preview, someone's responded to the ANI thread, so the point is rather moot. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 18:50, 3 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Nevermind, I'm rather stunned I tried to get even marginally involved. Carry on. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:03, 3 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Situation is resolved, for the time being. Barts has requested I no longer mentor him, and I am respecting his wishes. I stand by my statements. His response was wholly inappropriate. Perhaps I worded it a little too strongly but him biting the head off someone when they cross him wrong is not new behavior and completely unacceptable. I have mentored him on this several times without resolution. This is not the last time an issue like this will come up.  N419 BH  06:37, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Hey
Ok, then I will just put it into my own words — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smart Nomad (talk • contribs) 18:05, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
for the numbering fix Nobody Ent 22:00, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

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User:66.213.29.2
See this AIV entry for a bit of background - I'm pretty sure this is the same guy (see the edit to Recent changes patrol. If he keeps it up and I don't manage to report him, this will help.  http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=480705512  JohnInDC (talk) 21:56, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

In honor of your contributions!
Hang around till April 8th and you're automatically eligible for the Senior Editor badge! Rob SchnautZ (WMF) (talk • contribs) 17:00, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Page Triage newsletter
Hey guys!

Thanks to all of you who have commented on the New Page Triage talkpage. If you haven't had a chance yet, check it out; we're discussing some pretty interesting ideas, both from the Foundation and the community, and moving towards implementing quite a few of them :).

In addition, on Tuesday 13th March, we're holding an office hours session in #wikimedia-office on IRC at 19:00 UTC (11am Pacific time). If you can make it, please do; we'll have a lot of stuff to show you and talk about, including (hopefully) a timetable of when we're planning to do what. If you can't come, for whatever reason, let me know on my talkpage and I'm happy to send you the logs so you can get an idea of what happened :). Regards, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:56, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Wolfie thinking of you

 * Hi! :D Things have been crazy here at Chez Sandwich lately...here's hoping things settle down for both of us soon! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 15:28, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

coglione
Coglione — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.11.35.248 (talk) 19:25, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Non ho testicoli che m'avanzano da prestarti, mi dispiace. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 19:39, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Your input
Hey, your input and comments would be very much desired at User talk:Phenomer, as you previous declined the user's unblock request.  Snowolf How can I help? 01:16, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. I've commented there. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 05:36, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

New Page Triage newsletter
Hey all!

Thanks to everyone who attended our first office hours session; the logs can be found here, if you missed it, and we should be holding a second one on Thursday, 22 March 2012 at 18:00 UTC in #wikimedia-office. I hope to see you all there :).

In the meantime, I have greatly expanded the details available at New Page Triage: there's a lot more info about precisely what we're planning. If you have ideas, and they aren't listed there, bring them up and I'll pass them on to the developers for consideration in the second sprint. And if you know anyone who might be interested in contributing, send them there too!

Regards, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 00:26, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Should probably finish up the communication
The person you were working with at WikiProject_Cooperation/Paid_Editor_Help responded quite a while ago. Silver seren C 05:46, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

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Encouragement for a newbie
I was encouraging a newbie female editor, User talk:Ekroski, but she has not contributed since March 6. Kat Walsh suggested that I contact you for help with encouraging her. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:24, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Hm, I don't know that I'm particularly great at encouraging newbies - I'd say try referring her to WP:Teahouse, a new project intended to help newbies adjust. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 16:36, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Courtesy note
First of all, we all missed you yesterday at the meetup; Mitchazenia's 21st did not disappoint. My main reason for coming here is to solicit your comments at WT:Pending changes/Request for Comment 2012. I think we're just about set, and awaiting your input; hopefully we've set it up to run as smoothly as possible. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 21:32, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I wasn't happy about having to miss that meetup, of all meetups! Anyway, me = forgetful ditz, sorry. I've responded there now! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 22:50, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries; I just had to be reminded to deal with an ARBPIA issue I was supposed to take care of yesterday. Happens to all of us, although me more frequently than most.  The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 23:03, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

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help triage some feedback
Hey guys.

I appreciate this isn't quite what you signed up for, but I figured as people who are already pretty good at evaluating whether material is useful or not useful through Special:NewPages, you might be interested :). Over the last few months we've been developing the new Article Feedback Tool, which features a free text box. it is imperative that we work out in advance what proportion of feedback is useful or not so we can adjust the design accordingly and not overwhelm you with nonsense.

This is being done through the Feedback Evaluation System (FES), a tool that lets editors run through a stream of comments, selecting their value and viability, so we know what type of design should be promoted or avoided. We're about to start a new round of evaluations, beginning with an office hours session tomorrow at 18:00 UTC. If you'd like to help preemptively kill poor feedback, come along to #wikimedia-office and we'll show you how to use the tool. If you can't make it, send me an email at or drop a note on my talkpage, and I'm happy to give you a quick walkthrough in a one-on-one session :).

All the best, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:38, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Please help out at the Paid Editor Help page
While not a huge backlog yet, we're getting to it on the Paid Editor Help page. The sections that need replies include Colin Digiaro, Guy Bavli, Strayer University, Stevens Institute of Technology, and a general backlog in the Request Edits category. If you could help in any of these sections (primarily the first four), I would be really grateful. This notification is going out to a number of Wikiproject Cooperation members in the hopes that we can clear out all of the noted sections. And feel free to respond to a section and help out even if someone else had already responded there. The more eyes we get on a specific request, the more sure we can be on the neutrality of implementing it. Thanks! Silver seren C 03:36, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

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MSU/US Education Program: Wiki-Project Management Interview
Greetings, I'm Stephen. I am a student at Michigan State University, and working on an exploration of the Wikipedia adminship process under the guidance of my professor, Jonathan Obar. I am contacting you to confirm our interview, as well as thank you for participating in our project.

You can reply to me via email - as my email address is listed in a Wikipedia email form to you - to confirm the interview. My questions should take no longer than 30 minutes to answer. Thank you again, and I look forward to working with you. Tarucstephen (talk) 15:02, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I've replied to your email. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 15:14, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Topic ban
Heya, at Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents you have raised the issue of a topic ban. I have also requested an interaction ban on Yrc from interacting with me, as he has been warned previously about harassing myself when was editing under Off2riorob. So there is the harassment issue to take into consideration, and I think an interaction ban on my self is warranted in the circumstances. Could you please take a look at my request at the above, undoubtedly you will see it anyway, just wanted to give you a heads up as you have commented there already. Cheers, Russavia ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) 04:58, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Wikiproject Cooperation
Hey Fluffernutter. I noticed you signed up for the Wikimania panel and Wikiproject Cooperation. Awesome stuff. User:King4057 (COI Disclosure on User Page) 05:30, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Sergio Martines
Hello this article is semi-protected by you, I want change photo of Martines to. Please, can you do this? -Steffaville (talk) 21:13, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I did it :) -Steffaville (talk) 21:16, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Carol,Princess Dolatim page snuck in
Hey, Fluffernutter, thanks for helping out with the whole Martian royalty. The user managed to recreate the article (CSD tag and all) a minute before you blocked; just making sure you noticed it. Thanks again! Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 18:11, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Deleted now, thanks. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 18:12, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Joey Barton
Would you mind protecting this page. It has been at Request for page protection and has not been done as yet. Its really bad BLP breaches.Edinburgh  Wanderer  21:08, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Protected for two days. Let me know if it persists after that. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 21:10, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that.Edinburgh  Wanderer  21:11, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

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An explanation
I replied to your recent comment on Talk:Critical race theory. —Blanchette (talk) 06:57, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

A big NPT update
Hey! Big update on what the developers have been working on, and what is coming up:

coding
 * Fixes for the "moved pages do not show up in Special:NewPages" and "pages created from redirects do not show up in Special:NewPages" bugs have been completed and signed off on. Unfortunately we won't be able to integrate them into the existing version, but they will be worked into the Page Triage interface.
 * Coding has been completed on three elements; the API for displaying metadata about the article in the "list view", the ability to keep the "patrol" button visible if you edit an article before patrolling it, and the automatic removal of deleted pages from the queue. All three are awaiting testing but otherwise complete.

All other elements are either undergoing research, or about to have development started. I appreciate this sounds like we've not got through much work, and truthfully we're a bit disappointed with it as well; we thought we'd be going at a faster pace :(. Unfortunately there seems to be some 24-72 hour bug sweeping the San Francisco office at the moment, and at one time or another we've had several devs out of it. It's kind of messed with workflow.

Stuff to look at

We've got a pair of new mockups to comment on that deal with the filtering mechanism; this is a slightly updated mockup of the list view, and this is what the filtering tab is going to look like. All thoughts, comments and suggestions welcome on the NPT talkpage :). I'd also like to thank the people who came to our last two office hours sessions; the logs will be shortly available here.

I've also just heard that the first functional prototype for enwiki will be deployed mid-April! Really, really stoked to see this happening :). We're finding out if we can stick something up a bit sooner on prototype.wiki or something.

I appreciate there may be questions or suggestions where I've said "I'll find out and get back to you" and then, uh. not ;p. I sincerely apologise for that: things have been a bit hectic at this end over the last few weeks. But if you've got anything I've missed, drop me a line and I'll deal with it! Further questions or issues to the usual address. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 17:11, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Trout Slap
Consider this note a trout slap for your part in abusive hounding of a new user and failure to bother communicating your concerns at user talk:129.7.255.77. When the unblock requests say that the user wants to know what they did wrong and points out what they were trying to accomplish and your response is a talkpage lock, you are just being pricks.

Really this is no way to behave to new users. I've looked at the edits of the pages Elockid protected without reason to do so - another abuse of power there - and while there are things I don't agree with there are also things I do. The proper response would have been fixing the mistakes while leaving the RS material and removing the content involved in the stale fact request tag rather than just chain reverting, unless you are too lazy to do so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.106.210.223 (talk • contribs)
 * Needless to say, evading your block to continue the abusive behavior that got you blocked in the first place is not the greatest strategy. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 17:14, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for changing Levibuckland's message at my talkpage and blocking him. I was removing it myself when there was an edit conflict, though it was removed in the end. Would you mind removing the message from visibility? SwisterTwister  talk  21:13, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. ✅ :) A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 21:15, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Here
is some naptime for a hardworking user:



sonia ♫ 04:22, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Please. ~ &#8658;TomTom  N00  @ 16:06, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Again, another message. ~ &#8658;TomTom  N00  @ 16:19, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
~ &#8658;TomTom  N00  @ 17:43, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyedit?
Fluff, could you please look over an article that I just wrote. (Jackie Hudson) thank you very much. -- Guerillero &#124;  My Talk  00:17, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Interesting woman, she was! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 00:42, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Disaster Recovery
Hi Fluffernutter!

I see that you recently removed external links from the [disaster recovery] article but that these have been restored. I have previously tried to do a clean-up of the external links, and while my opinion is that some of the links are valid, I agree that not all of them are. I'm also not against removing all the links, but at the least some of them should be removed. I previously posted my views of the links on the talk page of disaster recovery because I believe that this is the correct place to discuss these types of edits if their is disagreement. I think it would be great if you could add your opinion to the talk page and keep working for getting the external links right - whatever 'right' means! I hope you'll add something to the talk page and I look forward to continuing the discussion there. Thanks for your work on Wikipedia edits. Dr-pro (talk) 05:12, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll try to take a look at this over the holiday weekend. Thanks for letting me know! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 05:35, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Report at ANI
Hello. I believe you remember the discussion at WP:ANI about Ankitbhatt and Ashermadan. It has now been archived here. The report about Ankitbhatt has been looked into and appropriate action taken, but for Ashermadan, nothing was done. Unlike the other, Ashermadan indulges in vandalism and did so in my talk page after I reported him. Could you kindly suggest an end to this, plausibly through a block or any other way? With regards, Secret of success 05:55, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think I'm going to be able to get to this in a comprehensive manner in the next few days. I would suggest you either try one of the other admins who was involved in the ANI thread, or else resurrect the thread itself on ANI. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 15:29, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

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Kumioko
He's not evading a block; that (the IP) is what he's supposed to edit from, until/unless he registers a new account. 28bytes (talk) 19:20, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you 28bytes, I just responded at Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rich Farmbrough/Workshop to clear things up also. Fluffernutter, I realize that you seem to want Rich banned but don't try and muddy the discussion by dragging me into it and starting a tangential discussion. That Arbcom case is going to be lengthy enough without unnecessary sidebar conversations that don't pertain to the topic. I no longer desire to edit with an account. Editing with an account is not required and plenty of people know what my IP is. I ain't hiding or trying too. 138.162.8.57 (talk) 19:25, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah. I was going by the block on Kumioko's account, which states that he was blocked for abusing multiple accounts. That sort of block generally rules out IP editing, also. If this is a special case, I stand corrected. 28bytes, can you point me to where this agreement was established? Kumioko, you may have noticed that I haven't participated in the RF case at all. I'm not involved, don't care to be involved, and don't have strong feelings either way about who ought or ought not to be banned. I would appreciate it if you take my comment for what it was: me noticing that a blocked user was editing via IP, and pointing that out so that someone familiar with the case and arbcom procedures could look the matter over. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 19:31, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * He was blocked for abusing multiple accounts; the then-primary account was blocked for a week, the others were indeffed, per standard practice. He's decided not to use the account that was blocked for a week anymore either, so it's been indeffed at his request, and his primary "account" now is the IPs. I agree it would be helpful if he resumed the practice of adding "formerly Kumioko" or similar to his IP sig to avoid confusion. 28bytes (talk) 19:35, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually I was thinking it would be more helpful if the block was amended so that it matches the actual situation - if I'd gone to his block log and seen "self-requested indef; user intends to edit without an account from now on" or something, the situation would have been much clearer. Looks like you're the blocking admin, 28bytes - Kumioko, what would you think of having 28bytes re-do your block with a clearer summary, to keep this from happening again? A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 19:39, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I think that's an excellent idea. If Kumioko doesn't mind I'll do that. 28bytes (talk) 19:42, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Totally fine with me. For what its worth theres no reason to block the Kumioko account at all unless you want too. I removed the EMail and scrambled the password so I couldn't login if I wanted too. 138.162.8.57 (talk) 19:56, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅. 28bytes (talk) 21:42, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Protection request
Hi Fluffernutter. Seeing as you're online, I'm wondering if you could semi-protect Skip Bayless for a few days. I left a request at WP:RPP, but with the number of BLP vios it's got in the last 48 hours, I think protecting ASAP would be the best option. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 16:26, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅. 1 week's protection. Hope this helps. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 16:41, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much. Jenks24 (talk) 16:46, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Preventative blocking
Given that the only reason that you have not blocked Anthonyhcole is his statement that "he's now offline and can't respond either way," shouldn't you prevent any further disruption by blocking Anthonycole for a nice sleep cycle, say 6 hours? Still waiting for that blind justice to show up. Hipocrite (talk) 16:49, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, the point of the word "preventative" is that it's intended to prevent something that would otherwise be happening. If Anthony were still online, still in what was apparently quite the bad temper, and still attacking other editors, a block would be preventative. Since he's asleep and - assuming he's not a sleepwalker - therefore not editing, it's not preventative to block him in the next few hours, especially since other editors dealt with the matter of removing his uncivil words. As I said, this strikes me as an edge case mostly because his going offline almost immediately muddies the issue of whether he would otherwise be acting on the warning I gave him, but you'll notice that Dweller and I have both stated that if, when he resumes editing, he doesn't rein it in (or if he tries to undo the redaction of his incivility - edit warring to restore personal attacks is bad juju), blocks will be forthcoming then. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 16:56, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

sigh ...
I thought you made some good points, but it seems that once again things moved along at a very rapid pace. I wish that you and I could have talked it out a bit more. Thank you for your efforts and input. Best. — Ched : <font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ? 17:50, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It never fails to amaze me how ANI is the most unpredictable of beasts. Sometimes a thread can go on for days, paralyzed by all the talking going on in it, and sometimes it's decided, resolved, and hatted before you can refresh the page. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 17:55, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Spider-Man (film)
Explain how is that vandalizing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.222.150 (talk) 19:23, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note for : See article history as well as IP talk page history.
 * @IP - see WP:BRD in regards to edits that are reverted. Suggest you discuss on article talk page.
 * @Fluffernutter - not meaning to step on toes, just noticed this and didn't look to see if you were still around to deal with it. Carry on all. — Ched : <font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ?  20:15, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Well, IP, let's take a look at your edits. This introduced a factual error to the article. This did too. This introduced a number of silly spelling errors, as well as incomprehensible grammar. This also introduced incomprehensible grammar. As best as I can tell, you were fooling around with the article, seeing what you could change, and made some edits that degraded the quality of the article in what was apparently a purposeful manner. I would suggest that you stop doing such edits if you want to continue to edit Wikipedia. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 20:21, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Social Media - harm reduction
--Slashme (talk) 06:19, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello,i´m the This user i´m trying to request that remove the protection  to my talk page,i want back to edit on the english Wikipedia, for  request my unblock,that i need much, want have a new chance,again.Someone said me:”you never back”,but i have faith that somebody  unblock me,please help  to the unblock me,please are 3 months,want back,goodbye & thanks 201.220.233.205 (talk) 20:30, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
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resource request
Hi Fluffernutter,

I've uploaded the articles that you requested on the Deborah Green case at the resource exchange. You can find links to the articles at that page. GabrielF (talk) 22:27, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Article Clean up
Hi, I was going through the article Life skills someone had used foul language in the article, I have removed that stuff, please check once, the user edited using his/her IP address. Devanshi tripathi (talk) 15:27, 16 April 2012 (UTC) (concerned campus ambassador)
 * It looks to me like you've cleaned it up, but you'd be better off asking another Indian to give it a look to be sure - I don't speak the languages and I'm not familiar with what is foul language in them. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk)

Ok will do that :) Devanshi tripathi (talk) 22:57, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Just curious
I do alot of edits to List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft. Can you tell me was that copyright violation that you deleted?...William 20:51, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * An editor added a verbatim copy of an article from The Guardian about an airline accident. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 20:54, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

King Dededede
I just made my account today and I wanted to make a joke. But you came along and deleted it so I just wanted to ask: are you allowed to make joke pages? I mean King Dededede is not a real thing and I highly doubt there ever will be such a thing so I think it's fine. You're probably confusing DEDEDE and DEDEDEDE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dodobird1982 (talk • contribs) 22:00, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * No, you're not allowed to make joke pages. They're considered vandalism, since this is an encyclopedia, not a playground. If you continue to make joke pages, you may end up being blocked. I don't mean to make you feel bad, but you do need to be aware that this is somewhere where you're expected to behave well, not somewhere to make jokes for fun. Also, please be very very cautious about releasing information regarding your age, birthday, location, etc - this is considered private information and is not safe to post publicly somewhere like Wikipedia. I'm going to delete where you just did it here, and I would ask that you please not share that information again anywhere else. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 22:12, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry. I won't do it again. Also, I would like to contribute my knowledge to Wikipedia but it seems all the topics I'm an expert at are already made and have even more information than I could contribute. What should I do? -Dodobird1982

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protection on Gold mining
The protection you added to Gold mining seems heavy-handed. The article has plenty of people watching it and actively reverting any vandalism. Also, most vandalism tends to be juvenile-flavored which ClueBot easily identifies and reverts. If I had been first to act, I would have blocked only and wait to see if any more vandals showed up. Also, unless you know something specific about aspiring vandals and a target article, such a melee would normally result in protecting the article for a day or two—not two weeks.

I leave it to you to decide the best course of action. Regards, —EncMstr (talk) 22:33, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep, you're right. I think I misread some dates in the history and my brain parsed it as "lots of vandalism in the past few weeks, better protect to match" rather than "lots of vandalism in the last day or so by the guy I've already dealt with". Or else I just had a complete brain fart... Either way, I've unprotected now, thanks for pointing this out to me. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 23:07, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


 * You are welcome. I remember one time years ago feeling like I was the only admin dealing with vandals for a few hours.  It was late at night, I was really tired, and then there are the variety of obstacles which obscure getting a realistic picture of the situation, not the least of which is using written electronic text.  Anyway, I understand.  Thanks for updating the protection!  —EncMstr (talk) 00:57, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Re:Your edit summaries on Lunch at the Gotham Café‎
I am delighted to have amused you. ^_^ Asarelah (talk) 20:23, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Guy Bavli Request Edit
Would you be able to do the histmerge requested in this section? No text seems to have been changed, if you look at the diff I linked, so not much needs to be reviewed here. Thanks in advance. Silver seren C 03:56, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I find histmerges very tricky and I prefer not to do them myself if I can get out of it. Let me poke some other admins and see if I can get someone else to do this one for you. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 17:14, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ thanks to user:Geni. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 19:24, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Just wandering by to say Hi!

 * Ohai! I hope it's a hypoallergenic kitteh - my spring allergies are in full swing! Achoo! A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 00:14, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Question
Hi - about the ANI issue - I see you have been involved in editing the MonaVie article. Did you bring the article history to Tiptoety's attention or ask Tiptoety to look at the issue prior to him taking his administrative action ? - You  really  can  00:05, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll answer this. Fluffernutter asked for an uninvolved administrator to look into the issue, and I volunteered. Best, Tiptoety  talk 07:53, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks - off wiki I assume, or is there a diff ? You  really  can  10:00, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * (Sorry for the late reply, I'm running around house hunting this weekend) Yes, as Tiptoety says, I asked in the admins channel on irc for someone to look at the recent history of the article, since a) it looked to be rapidly destabilizing and b) I had no real sense for what the best action would be to remedy that. I did not request a particular action, simply new eyes, and Tiptoety and I don't know each other particularly well, so it was not a matter of me trying to find a "pal" to do something "off the record" - I asked for an uninvolved admin, he volunteered, and he took what he felt to be appropriate action. In hindsight, that action ended up causing drama, but I think it was a valid response to the situation as it stood at the time, especially because I think the long-term contributors involved ought to have been aware that reverting repeatedly wasn't going to fix anything. Nor, for that matter, was my strategy of glancing at the article's history every week or so, seeing that people had posted on the talk, and assuming that disputes were being worked out. If I'd been paying closer attention, I could have personally done what I've been telling Andy & Co. they should have been doing, and teased out what was going wrong. I personally still believe there was edit warring going on on the article, in the sense of "repeated reversions of other editors", and having seen that two of the editors have now been blocked as socks, the thought I want to leave people in this discussion is this: If, instead of simply reverting the 'bad' editors repeatedly, someone had drawn attention to their behavior at a noticeboard, we could have been saved literally months of the article being unstable by simply getting rid of what turned out to be a sockpuppeteer. That, in my view, is why we have an edit warring policy to begin with - long-term reverting can't fix a problem editor, and will only perpetuate the issue until either patience runs out (as it did here) or the problem editor manages to get themselves blocked for something else (which is nice and all, but much less efficient than just dealing with their original disruption). It's much more efficient and less disruptive to the article to simply deal with the problem editor in the first place. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 15:59, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

My attention was pointed here. Was this an IRC request? Hipocrite (talk) 10:52, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hipocrite, the above two paragraphs fully explain it. <span style="font-size:smaller;font-family:'arial bold',sans-serif;border:1px solid Black;"> N419 BH  16:36, 22 April 2012 (UTC)