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Argentina transport articles
Hello! I've seen that you have been editing articles related to transport in Argentina. Would you like to collaborate in some way?

Many of the articles are out of date, and I would like to do more but unfortunately my Spanish isn't great and also I have limited experience in working with Wikipedia so it would be good if we could help eachother. I have created the article Posadas-Encarnacion International Train and made some big contributions to Transport in Argentina, please feel free to look at these and contribute as I assume you have better access to information than I do.

Ideally, I would like to create a Wikiproject for transport in Argentina (maybe as part of Wikiproject:Argentina) and organise all the articles properly, make a to-do list and start creating new articles (for example, EcoBici (Buenos Aires)) and updating existing ones with other editors. However, I don't know how to do this so would appreciate help :) SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 16:06, 18 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi! I'd love to colaborate with transport in Argentina, specially in railway transport that is what I'm mostly interesed in. I'll take a look to the topics you mentioned; about the language, I'm a non-native English speaker so I'll appreciate your help with the grammar mistakes I could commit.
 * Thanks for your contact, we'll keep in touch ! Regards, Fma12 (talk) 17:07, 18 March 2015 (UTC)


 * That's excellent. I too am mostly interested in railway transport. If you have any dificulties with language, please feel free to contact me.
 * With the Tren de las Sierras article, the Hospital Neonatal station is missing from your template. That station was re-opened along with the Alta Cordoba station. Similarly, I saw you edited the logo of the Ferrocarriles Argentinos entry, however this logo is also out of date and the current one can be found here.
 * Also, with regards to trains, one thing that is seriously lacking is recent images. EnElSubte.com and Cronica Ferroviaria usually have great images and lots of recent ones. Would you be open to contacting them about using some of their images or getting them to collaborate by uploading some to Wikimedia Commons? SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 18:22, 18 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Crónica Ferroviaria is probably the best railroad website in Argentina, I'll try to contact them to request authorization to use their photos (an OTRS ticket would be also needed). About the re-opening of Hospital Neonatal station: thanks for the info, I didn't notice about that and I'll add it to the template.


 * Ferrocarriles Argentinos is still a project that is going be sent to the Congress of Argentina this week. As the company has not been created (the original "FA" was disolved in 1993), there is not a definitive version of the logo, although some sources (like the article you cited) say that the logo would be the same ([:File:Ferrocarriles Argentinos.svg this]), probably with some minor color changes. But we'll have to wait until the company be established to know its status and visual image.


 * Best, Fma12 (talk) 14:25, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I sent them an email in broken Spanish yesterday, but if you do as well that's probably better because maybe they won't understand what I was asking for. I also have no idea about uploading photos to Wikimedia. I uploaded two public domain photos ( and ) but may have done so incorrectly.


 * OK, I will bear in mind the use of FA and the uncertainty of its future. I know that often these things in Argentina can result in nothing, so will be cautious. Thanks :) SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 18:22, 19 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi, I want to create an article for this new rolling stock that is being integrated into the Belgrano Norte line, , . However, I cannot confirm the name of the company that makes it. I think it's Grupo Emepa S.A., but I'm not sure. If you can confirm that it's them, then I'll create Grupo Emepa and we could possibly add them in a new "rolling stock manufacturers" section in the template, along with Materfer. SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 23:43, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

April 2015
Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Tren a las Nubes, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. It's not the number of sources in the article but to have every piece of information properly referenced, which is not the case here. Jetstreamer $Talk$ 11:22, 6 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks to the efforts and collaboration of SegataSanshiro1 the article is very well referenced now and no "unsourced" tag is needed. To be honest, I think that previous sources were enough but your opinion was clearly different. Anyway there is no reason to put that template now. Fma12 (talk) 22:43, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Article naming
I am not sure about the conventions on Wikipedia with this, but do we not need to move pages like Ferrocarril General Roca to General Roca Railway with a redirect? In many cases like Central Argentine Railway and Buenos Aires and Pacific Railway the English names are used. I have no problem in doing this myself, but wanted to consult with you. SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 17:50, 6 April 2015 (UTC)


 * According what I saw here, several criteria were used to name the articles so some are in Spanish and others in English. But of course I consider that they should be translated to an English form; in fact, the articles that I created myself (such as Argentine State Railway or Comodoro Rivadavia Railway) were named that way.


 * Articles names should be: General Manuel Belgrano Railway, General Bartolomé Mitre Railway, General Roca Railway, General Urquiza Railway and Domingo Faustino Sarmiento Railway (although middle name "Domingo" can be omitted) and General San Martín Railway. In cases such as Roca, Urquiza or San Martín, first names were never used.


 * So feel free to rename/redirect to "General Roca Railway" or "General Bartolomé Mitre Railway" and move their contents if you want, and I'll do the same to give you a hand. Fma12 (talk) 11:58, 7 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Done! I kept the full (long) names for the page titles and created redirect pages for the shortened versions of the names. SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 16:53, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Maps
Do you think you could show me how you did those great maps for Tren de los Pueblos Libres and Ferrocarril Mitre? I might start with a simple one showing all the railway terminals in Buenos Aires as dots to learn how to do it and then go on to more complex ones. It's probably better if we can both make maps because pretty much every article is lacking a map and a standardised style would be good.

I think eventually (though this is very ambitious) we would need one for each of the Ferrocarriles Argentinos railways (each with its own colour) and then one big map with all these super-imposed on top of one another to use for the main articles. What do you think? SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 14:46, 9 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for your kind words to my maps. Indeed it is a craftmanship so I render the maps manually on Corel Draw, whih I learned to use during my career at the University of Buenos Aires (I'm a graphic designer). I'm currently working on other maps, such as Belgrano and Roca Railways (which it's almost finished).


 * About the method to make a map, I usually take images from Google (for example "Córdoba Province" as I did to render the Tren de las Sierras scheme), and then work with different layers at Corel Draw to trace the rail lines in the map, exporting the vector graphic as a JPG.


 * Open Street Map is an excellent free-license Wikiproject that you can use for tracing maps, but I've experienced some problems to export the ones I created. That site allows you to chose different kind of views (p.e. "transport mode" to visualize all the transport in the region you select) and I've seen some maps created with OSM hosted at Commons.


 * The Ferrocarriles Argentinos map, as you described, is a really ambitious project, not impossible but ambitious and it would take a long time. At the moment, I'm focusing on each railway separately (Mitre, Sarmiento, Belgrano, etc) to fill the articles without maps. I'll be uploading them a.s.a.p. Fma12 (talk) 17:01, 9 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Haha, well in that case there is no chance I can really help with that as you clearly have much more expertise than me. I have no idea how to use Corel, and I'm also a Linux user so would have to use Wine (software), which can be a bit complicated, otherwise would have to use stuff like GIMP (terrible) or Inkscape (difficult). However, I'll try Open Street Map for the railway stations since it involves no plotting, only individual points.


 * Yes, it's extremely ambitious, though that would be ideal eventually (though now that you've mentioned the process, it seems even more ambitious). The maps you are making are a HUGE step forward so looking forward to the others. By the way, how do you decide on a colour scheme for each railway? Has each one historically been associated with a colour or is it just a personal choice?


 * Also, I have just created a page for Federico Lacroze (person), so would appreciate a quick check and some general integration if you have the time. SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 17:40, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Help with Underground templates
I'm trying to finish up with improving everything related to the Subte so I can get back to editing the railways (I got sidetracked). However, currently I'm having two problems which I wanted to ask your help with since I can't resolve them myself:


 * Template:Line D (BA) is upside-down (the only template which is like this). Every time I have tried to reverse the position of the stations, I have broken the template so it just displays the raw HTML text.


 * The other is related to Category:Buenos Aires Underground succession templates - the templates found inside the infoboxes for line stations (like this one), but I don't know where to change the main name from. The name inside the template should say "Buenos Aires Underground" (or simply "Subte" if that's too long) instead of "Buenos Aires Metro" and should have a small Subte icon (with a link) such as in this template.

Sorry to bother you with this, but I figured it's something you can do quite quickly and I've spent a long time trying to fix it already with no success. SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 18:34, 22 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi SegataSanshiro1, I've been pretty busy rendering a huge amount of maps that I recently uploaded to Commons. About your request, unfortunately I'm not an expert at creating or editing templates, but there is an user (DerBorg) that has a long experience in that issue. I suggest you to contact him for further assistance. Regards ! Fma12 (talk) 19:27, 22 April 2015 (UTC)


 * That's great, I'll message him now. The maps are looking excellent by the way! SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 21:32, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

TransUnion Wikipedia Page
Hi,. I have noticed your edits on the TransUnion page in the past and was wondering if you could help me out. I have a WP:COI but have recongized that some updates need to be made. For example, the most recent reported revenue reported is from 2011. There is an SEC filing (United States. Securities and Exchange Commission. EDGAR. Form 10-K TransUnion. Washington, D.C.: n.p., 2014. EDGAR. Web. 21 Apr. 2015, Link to filing)

I am wondering if we might get your assistance to make some of the other updates that are needed given my WP:COI. I am happy to work it through however you would like. I can identify the specific issues and provide references and leave it up to another editor for consideration to make the changes or not. Alternatively, I am happy to make the updates but would appreciate a watchful eye to ensure all the changes are in line with Wikipedia guidelines.

Appreciate your consideration SusanChana (talk) 18:40, 6 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi, . To be clear, my only edits on TransUnion page were related to the logo (which I updated time ago) so I'm not familiarised with any other issue about the company. Sorry but I can't assist you on that. Thanks for your contact, best regards. Fma12 (talk) 14:25, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Your opinions on sidebar template and usage figures
Hi! I wanted your opinion/help on two things:

Firstly, I've drafted up a potential sidebar template for use in the FA/Railway articles. You can find it in my sandbox. I wanted to know your opinion on it, if it could be useful, what pages should be removed, what pages are missing, etc.

Secondly, I wanted to ask you where I might find comprehensive usage statistics for the BA commuter rail lines. The figures on the Rail transport in Argentina article are 7 years old and a lot has changed since then, and then the figures from the articles for the individual lines are all taken from different sources (from partisan newspapers to defunct operators) and some are either unsourced or very old. I think it's quite important because the numbers get cited not only on these articles, but also on list articles compared to other networks and I'm pretty sure most of them are wrong.

Thanks! SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 12:25, 19 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi SegataSanshiro1; to be sincere, I don't like the format of sidebar templates (at least for railway articles so infoboxes provide more than enough information about the company and/or the line). On the other hand, I think a template on the bottom could be much useful and less redundant (such as Template:Railway Companies in Argentina). Today I'll be designing a potential template for FA articles (with the same information you put on the sidebar) on my sandbox and then I'll let you know it.


 * About the statistics... well, the ministry of transport should be provide that information, but they don't do it. The few information I could collect was taken from newspapers (such as Clarín, La Nación) or even railroad websites. But unfortunately, there are no further sources where date can be taken from (no matter how many attempts you do). Nevertheless, I'll try to get some extra information about the number of passengers carried in each commuter rail line.


 * I'll keep in contact, thank you ! Fma12 (talk) 12:45, 19 May 2015 (UTC)


 * You're right about the sidebar, we'll stick with the bottom templates. Also thanks for updating the usage statistics, I've done the same with the freight companies.


 * If you haven't noticed, I'm uploading a tonne of pictures on the Commons at the moment. Got in touch with a few people on Flickr and asked if they could change a few of their pictures to CC-BY-SA. There should hopefully be more soon. SegataSanshiro1 (talk) 15:54, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Photo
Hi! I am going to write in the Russian Wikipedia some articles about the Argentina grenades (FM-1, FMK-2, FMK-8, etc.). You couldn't take couple of pictures of these grenades in the museums of your country? I will be grateful! --Лукас Фокс (talk) 17:57, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, Лукас Фокс thanks for your contact ! Although I'm not an expert in military issues, give me a couple of days to search some material about the grenades you mentioned. ;) I'll keep in touch !!! Regards, Fma12 (talk) 19:45, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Your WP:AN report
Hi, Fma12. Your removal of your own post on WP:AN with your sad edit summary popped up on my watchlist. I hate to see somebody getting no response at all when they ask for admin help on the noticeboards — it is sad. It's late in my timezone, but I'll take a look at the matter tomorrow, if you like. For future reference, though, it's the kind of report that goes better on WP:ANI, so you might have got a response if you'd used that. Regards, Bishonen &#124; talk 21:23, 24 June 2015 (UTC).


 * Hi, User:Bishonen, thanks for your message that clearly shows your kindness. Indeed I hate when I leave a message waiting for a solution and it is completely ignored. In this case in particular I felt really disappointed, but I'm going to leave the report on WP:ANI. If you want to take a look there, it would be great for me. Thanks in advance. Regards, - Fma12 (talk) 22:03, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

look at references provided on McCarthy
https://books.google.ie/books?id=CRkIAcCB_0EC&pg=PA32&lpg=PA32&dq=The+World%27s+Gam&hl=en#v=onepage&q=The%20World%27s%20Gam&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.19.212.155 (talk) 23:01, 26 June 2015 (UTC)