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 * Thank you! What was wrong? Just in case it happens again! Fodbold-fan (talk) 18:11, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

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Florent Balmont
Hi. Thanks for updating Florent Balmont. Could you explain why you removed his appearance for Dijon II from the infobox? It's reliably sourced in the stats table. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 21:44, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Robby.is.on. I just think that it was a bit misplaced. That was the only reason. But I probably should have had it crammed in as some text instead. I thought it looked a bit out of place that it was in the infobox. Fodbold-fan (talk) 17:40, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * OK Robby.is.on (talk) 21:06, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

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Unsourced info about BLPs, again
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 * Stop hand nuvola.svg You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced or poorly sourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Antonio Dominique.  GiantSnowman 22:11, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

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Hello, thank you for this edit you made to Ottman Dadoune, it was constructive. Just one thing; although the source you used was good, it would be better if you cited it in a proper reference rather than just putting the url in an invisible comment. You can see more about this at WP:CITINGSOURCES. Thank you very much! Paul Vaurie (talk) 06:35, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * What is your problem again? Stop harrasind me. And start opening your eyes! Do you see Soccerway, or? Tired of you. Fodbold-fan (talk) 19:50, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

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You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at David Turpel. GiantSnowman 21:31, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * What did I vandalize Giant??????????? Fodbold-fan (talk) 17:51, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Removed the (valid) Progrès Niederkorn stats. GiantSnowman 18:52, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Stop it. That's not vandalizing. Conversely, there are no sources in the article that tell how many games he has played. So stop it Giant!!! Fodbold-fan (talk) 18:55, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Wrong - the Soccerway source does. So you didn't check it? GiantSnowman 18:56, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

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Fupa is not a reliable source
Hi Fodbold-fan. Fupa is not a reliable source as it's user-generated. I've reverted your addition at Tobias Steffen. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 20:37, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Thomas Bertels
Hi Fodbold-fan. At Thomas Bertels, where did you get the TuS Ehringhausen  and VfB Schloß Holte numbers from? No source in the article seems to support them or even that he played for these clubs at all. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 21:45, 2 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi Robby.is.on. Thank you for your kind inquiry. Many other users (no names mentioned) could learn from this ;)


 * I have just now updated the article. I must admit that sometimes it goes a little too fast and I forget to include sources. I have to apologize for that. And I had actually misspoken a bit, which I have also corrected. There were - as you can see from the source - several people named Bertels, which is why I had counted some wrong Bertels xD Fodbold-fan (talk) 17:03, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Mm, how can you tell that https://www.kicker.de/ama-57366097/spieler and http://tus-ehringhausen.de/1-mannschaft/zahlen-daten refer to our Thomas Bertels? Both his first and last name are quite common in Germany. His TuS Ehringhausen stint is plausible since he played for that club as a youth but we need to be sure. Robby.is.on (talk) 17:19, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * With a very simple search on the largest soccer database available (although Wikipedia does not consider this source credible) we can see that there is only one Thomas Bertels: https://www.transfermarkt.com/schnellsuche/ergebnis/schnellsuche?query=Thomas+Bertels&x=0&y=0
 * In addition, you can also do a search on one of Germany's largest databases FuPa (also not considered credible here) where only two are named Thomas Bertels, one of which has only played for one other club. That's for sure not him. That said, you can further confirm this by searching his name along with those clubs on Google. I checked this before I updated the article earlier. It's 100% him.
 * In relation to when the statistics from Kicker relate to, you can click around a bit on the website. Take a look here, where you can see which seasons the statistics in question are collected from: https://www.kicker.de/ama-57366097/spieler-einsaetze
 * I'm pretty comfortable with what I've updated :-) Fodbold-fan (talk) 17:33, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay. The problem is that anyone reading the article cannot extract the information and explanations you gave me from the article. Verifiability, one of Wikipedia's core content policies, demands that "other people using the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source." You have demonstrated here to me that the information you added is true but, quoting Wikipedia:Verifiability again, "Even if you are sure something is true, it must have been previously published in a reliable source before you can add it". And these sources need to be in article.
 * I have added two newspaper articles which confirm he played for TuS Ehringhausen and VfB Schloß Holte.
 * Thank you for your kind inquiry. Many other users (no names mentioned) could learn from this ;) You're welcome. I try hard to be patient. At the same time, please understand that it is frustrating for other editors when they get the impression they need to explain basic Wikipedia policies to an editor who has been around for a long time and violates them repeatedly. Robby.is.on (talk) 17:58, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Naarh. There are tons of articles that haven't been updated in years. So I think we should take care of those of us who do this voluntarily. No one makes money from it. So I don't understand why people in here aren't just happy that some of us are doing this instead of constantly correcting each other. Everyone knows that my work is something I check before I publish it. I am, and probably never will be, good at sources. But everyone can see that my work is credible. Otherwise, I would have been permanently banned long ago. So the short answer is: NO, I don't understand why people write the way they do in here. This is MY way of working and I do it as best I can. If it HAS to be more than what I do now, then I don't think I will continue as a volunteer on Wikipedia. Fodbold-fan (talk) 18:09, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * There are tons of articles that haven't been updated in years. Realistically, it's rather unimportant and perhaps even WP:UNDUE where Thomas Bertels played after ending his professional career. We shouldn't feel obligated to include all information we can find.
 * Wikipedia:Verifiability is non-negotiable. If you were to insist this core content policy does not apply to you, then I would be one of those calling for you to be blocked from editing. It would be a pity but in the collaborative project that Wikipedia is we cannot allow editors to flout basic principles of editing that the community has agreed upon through extensive discussion. Robby.is.on (talk) 18:33, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I think I'm doing pretty well ;) Fodbold-fan (talk) 19:30, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Are you sure? You were blocked six times between 2015 and 2019. Since then, you've racked up plenty more warnings for unsourced editing. The community's patience will run out if you continue like this. Robby.is.on (talk) 19:39, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure, yes. I fell that I'm doing Wikipedia a big favor with my editings. It's not vandalism, it's just that I sometimes forget to include the sources.
 * Also because sometimes adding sources is a bigger project because you have to write a lot of text for the articles, which is already undernourished. Many times I just want to update the infobox, and it's difficult to add sources in the infoboxes. It looks ugly, first of all.
 * But I'm happy to take advice from you :) Fodbold-fan (talk) 20:07, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

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 * Hi. I dont know what else you want me to add. There is not many sources about him. Fodbold-fan (talk) 20:35, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Not having sources about him are directly prohibitive when it comes to creating a Wikipedia article. Some sources might come up, though! Geschichte (talk) 08:15, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

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 * Hi Vanderwaalforces. Whether it's Instagram or not, the source comes from the Right To Dream Academy's own official profile, so I don't think it CAN get any more credible than that. It's not a player that there is a lot of information about at the moment, which is why I think that what we have right now is optimal and gives a credible and realistic picture of his profile. I hope you can see and agree with that. Fodbold-fan (talk) 18:43, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

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FootballDatabase.eu
This is not deemed to be reliable, please do not use it. GiantSnowman 15:37, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Where can I see that? Fodbold-fan (talk) 15:37, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * might be able to guide you to the relevant discussion, I have noticed him on my watchlist removing links. GiantSnowman 15:54, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Yep, I'd been relying on FootballDatabase.eu frequently. But a discussion at the Reliable sources/Noticeboard from December 2023 found it to be unreliable as the website's user generated. WP:WPFLINKSNO should list football-specific that have been established to be unreliable. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 22:01, 14 July 2024 (UTC)