User talk:Footwiks/Archive 1

= Talk (2010–2019) =

Proposed deletion of Lee Soo-Chul


The article Lee Soo-Chul has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

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Owner
FC Seoul doesn't have Owner. The owner of something is the 'PERSON' to whom belongs. K-Leauge clubs like FC Seoul are not be owned by person. So, they don't have owner, just have Parent-company. z4617925 (talk) 15:12, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of K-League ‘Fan'tastic Player Award


A tag has been placed on K-League ‘Fan'tastic Player Award requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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Removing Speedy at K-League ‘Fan'tastic Player Award
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Please stop removing speedy deletion notices from pages that you have created yourself, as you did with K-League ‘Fan'tastic Player Award. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. - SDPatrolBot (talk) 15:48, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

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non-free image use
Hi. It may have escaped your attention, but the image you have inserted here is tagged as non-free. That means, that a detailed fair-use rationale should be on the image description page, telling why the image is necessary on each page where it is displayed. At the moment, there is a fair-use rationale for the use on Anyang LG Cheetahs, but not for FC Seoul, and that was why I removed the image (and no, that is not vandalism, it is bringing a page in line with the relevant policies that are linked in my edit summary - please take care with calling things vandalism). May I ask you to write a fair-use rationale for that image? Thank you. --Dirk Beetstra T C 09:56, 30 June 2011 (UTC)


 * (copied from my talkpage):
 * No, I mean that you have to add a second rationale to the image description page for the other page where it is displayed. In principle you can copy the rationale that is there, paste it a second time on the same page, and then adapt both the name of the page in the new rationale (so it points to the correct page), and the reason why it should be displayed on the second one. In the end, it needs a rationale for every display of the image (and that can be one rationale if it is displayed on one page, or even a hundred separate rationales if it is displayed on 100 independent pages). I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:53, 1 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Footwiks, I know you don't understand how to solve it, but that is not a reason to re-insert the image without actually solving the problem. The image needs a rationale, and I am sorry, but I don't know the rationale here.  You need to
 * Go to the image description page: File:Anyang LG Cheetahs logo.svg
 * You need to edit that page, and state on that page on which page you are going to use it (FC Seoul) and why you think that that image is needed, before re-inserting. Please, do not insert that image without a rationale.
 * Alternatively, please ask on the talkpage of FC Seoul about the image, and give an explanation, and wait for another user to insert the image. I hope this explains.  --Dirk Beetstra T  C 09:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

July 2011
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Proposed deletion of SSID (mascot)


The article SSID (mascot) has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Mascot isn't notable as there isn't sufficient coverage in independent and reliable sources

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Mrmatiko (talk) 16:12, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

FC Seoul Away Jersey
Hi, can you find some pictures of the FC Seoul 2005 away jersey? Greetings Luxusfrosch (talk) 17:04, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you Luxusfrosch (talk) 08:50, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Please explain your changes. If you're changing club names because they have changed on Wikipedia, it would be useful to know that rather than cause misunderstanding and bad edits. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:55, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't care how accurate your changes are, your activities look suspicious when you don't comment. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:03, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

FC Seoul old jersey revise
Hi, I found two different versions of the 2002-2003 jersey. One with dark adidas stripes: http://postfiles16.naver.net/20110725_239/lzmania_13116048282542xe6a_JPEG/K-20110725-850105.jpg?type=w2 and one with white adidas stripes: http://stg.olpost.com/post/image/573x0/1982/1982217.jpg. When were they used? Luxusfrosch (talk) 12:21, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

King's Cup and Korea Cup
제가 관련 문서를 만든 것은 클럽대항전을 기준으로 만든 것입니다. 80~90년대의 킹스컵은 대한민국 클럽들이 참가하긴 했지만, 국가대표팀을 비롯하여 청소년팀, 올림픽대표팀이 참가하여 완전한 클럽대항전으로 보기엔 무리가 있어서 포함시키지 않았습니다. 그리고 코리아컵 역시 그러한 의미에서 포함시키지 않았습니다. 홍콩 구정컵의 경우 최근 들어 클럽대항전으로 치뤄지고 있어서 포함시키게 되었습니다. 구정컵 역시 이전의 대표팀과 경기했던 클럽팀을 제외시켰다는 점 양해바랍니다. Saint9016 (talk) 08:13, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * 유럽의 경우 기권패와 기권승의 경우 3대0으로 표기합니다. 그럴 경우 전적에 포함시킵니다. 아시아의 경우 예전 기록들은 기록관리가 제대로 이루어지지 않은 측면도 있고, 경기가 치뤄지기 이전에 기권하는 경우가 많았기 때문에 기록에는 포함시키지 않았습니다. 최근의 알사드와 세파한의 몰수승 같은 경우는 전적에 포함되는 것이지요. 전적에 포함시키는 경우는 성남일화가 마카오팀과 1995-96시즌에 기권승이 있는데 3대0으로 기록되어 있는 건 포함시켰습니다. Saint9016 (talk) 16:52, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Mutamba Kabongo


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List of FC Seoul transfers 2000-2004 seasons
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Proposed deletion of Baek Jong-Chul


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Navigation templates
Hi there - you do not need to add both succession boxes AND navigation templates (as you have done at Park Chang-Sun) - the latter will suffice. Regards, GiantSnowman 11:19, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

선수정보 검색관련
K리그 홈페이지에서 기록실>>각종기록>>팀별개인기록 으로 들어가서 "대회년도", "대회명", "구단명"을 선택하면 선수들의 플레이 정보가 나옵니다. 선수들 이름을 클릭하면 선수개인기록을 볼 수 있습니다. 참고하실 점은 선수개인기록의 경기수, 득점, 도움이 K리그와 리그컵을 합친 숫자입니다. 따라서 리그와 리그컵을 별도로 표시하는 위키 영문판에서는 대회년도와 대회명을 하나하나 확인하셔야 할 것입니다. 그럼 좋은 하루 되세요. Saint9016 (talk) 02:13, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of GS Sports


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New football player articles
You added alot of new football player articles over the past day. There is a problem with them in that you copied and pasted the same infobox for all of them. You have them being born on one of two dates, attending same universities, etc. Could you please correct the infobox and persondata fields. Bgwhite (talk) 06:27, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Lee Sung-Jae (born 1976) is a good example. You have him winning rookie player of the year in 1997 and 1999, but started playing in 1991.  You had a message at the top saying his Korean family name was Yang.  Bgwhite (talk) 07:40, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
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Re:foreign players article
If you're suggesting I have some kind of ulterior motive for this then you're wrong. Both of the clubs I nominated already have lists for all players, why the need for a seperate article? In Seoul's case I simply renamed it so it could include Koreans and foreigners alike. If I'd known your club didn't have this article before I wouldn't have tagged it for deletion, so apologies for that. J Mo 101 (talk) 11:03, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

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Busan I'Park
By all means nominate template:Busan I Park for deletion but before you do so you must fix the articles that use it. Similarly for 2012 Busan I Park season. I will let others decide whether it should be "IPark", "I Park" or "I'Park" but given that Busan IPark was consistent in using "I'Park" for the season articles, then the 2012 article should, at least for the time being, do the same. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:32, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Ssangyong Cement FC


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저기
저번에 욕했으면 사과정도는 해야 하지 않겠습니까?

그냥 싹 지우지 말고? 씨발이라고 욕해놓고 입싹 닦으면 그걸로 끝입니까?

알아보지도 않고 경솔하게 쪽지 날리고 사과한마디 없는 footwiks님이 과연

이런 오픈 백과사전에서 활동할 자격이 있는걸까 생각해 보게 되는군요.

claims require sources
re your edit and summary you will need to actually provide those sources that claim "powerhouse". but the "legend" terminology will never be acceptable WP:PEACOCK. -- The Red Pen of Doom  04:18, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * and links to commercial sites are not acceptable WP:ELNO -- The Red Pen of Doom  04:20, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

the claims etc in  appear to be coming from folks affiliated directly with the team and are therefore not acceptable. "This is commonsense in Korea" is not acceptable for article content. When challenged, which you have been, you need to provide a reliable source. -- The Red Pen of Doom  16:10, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * re: Football League 100 Legends - as it stands it is probably NOT a valid article, but it is still a valid use of the word "legend" because it is about a specific article/award called "Football League 100 Legends" whereas your insistence on using the term in the FC Seoul is completely unsourced and completely irrel to the actual subject of the article, the team, AND just used to impart important status because you are tagging his name with a puffed up utterly meaningless show title.
 * and note that you are edit warring against multiple policies. -- The Red Pen of Doom  02:41, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * you should also read WP:VANDAL and not describe as vandalism acts which are not vandalism, but supported by policies and guidelines. you should also read WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA and stop making comments such as "Do you lose your job or Do you broke up your girl friend?" -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom| The Red Pen of Doom] 12:07, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

talk page etiquette
as a note, each comment on a talk page does not need to be in a new section. related comments should be in the same section, and indented using a ":".

also, you should sign your talkpage comments. -- The Red Pen of Doom  12:33, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 13:35, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Reply
RE: Seoul FC

Stating that Seoul is the capital most populous city in South Korea is irrelevant to the article.Curb Chain (talk) 01:54, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Right, FC Seoul. Sure MAYBE foreigners don't know details about Seoul, so they can go to the article to to know more about Seoul, but putting this information is just poor writing as it is irrelevant.Curb Chain (talk) 05:23, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * 
 * I'm going to try to work with you on this article. In the above diff, feel free to reinsert the sentence if you have a source.
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=FC_Seoul&diff=prev&oldid=487951593
 * In the above diff, what articles claim that they are they are one the most football clubs?Curb Chain (talk) 05:29, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

edit war notice
I suggest that you revert yourself your edit warring against consensus and policy will lead you to being blocked. -- The Red Pen of Doom  04:45, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Treat other editors civilly
If you want to be able to continue editing, you will STOP calling other editor's idiots calling them ("abnormally obsessed " or otherwise attempting to belittle them "Do you lose your job or Do you broke up your girl friend? "

if your intention was to get me to leave the article alone, you have failed.

see WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL -- The Red Pen of Doom  05:41, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Adding to the above: You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.Curb Chain (talk) 05:48, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Apparently, you claim that powerhouse and legend are used by sources in http://100.naver.com/ but it looks like a homepage of a website so if this was true, where would it be on the page, as I highly doubt it is on THAT page, but in a page out of a list of search items searched from that page? Also, can you sign your posts as since you repeatedly do not, it seems like you are trying to evade scrutiny.Curb Chain (talk) 05:59, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

April 2012
This is your last warning. The next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at FC Seoul, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.

your continued insertion of unsourced or poorly sourced claims[], against the consensus on the talk page, is unacceptable behavior. -- The Red Pen of Doom  10:55, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * re your justification that the Manchester United article has a similar claim - the claim in that article is supported by 4 count'em FOUR reliable sources. -- The Red Pen of Doom  11:11, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) sign your posts
 * 2) it is not just "my opinion" - there have been 3, yes count 'em, THREE, experienced editors who have said that our policies say that you need proper sourcing for that claim.
 * 3) just because other articles are in bad shape, why would that be a reason to let another article descend into suckiness?
 * 4) sign your damn posts. -- The Red Pen of Doom  23:27, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * All of the above. I second.  Especially signing your posts.  I have to go to the history to get to your user talk page.  And the list of homework you gave to User:TheRedPenOfDoom: I checked Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors.  There were none of the haughtiness/haughty phrases found in FC Seoul.  I suspect you are being disruptive.Curb Chain (talk) 23:46, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * And unless i am completely off, the source that you added to support the claim that FCSeoul is popular and financially successful is just a quote from the president of the club pimping his team. You need a source not related to the team to be making the claims. -- The Red Pen of Doom  01:18, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for not continuing to edit war on the article.Curb Chain (talk) 07:31, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * i think your thanks were a bit premature. -- The Red Pen of Doom  12:43, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Final warning
Your recent editing history at FC Seoul shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you don't violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. -- The Red Pen of Doom  12:42, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

A discussion at the Administrators notice board
There is a discussion about events in which you have been involved taking place at Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents. -- The Red Pen of Doom  13:11, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of List of football clubs with over 60,000-capacity stadium for deletion
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Speedy deletion nomination of Seoul Trust Bank FC


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Speedy deletion nomination of ROK Army FC


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Speedy deletion nomination of ROK Navy FC


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Speedy deletion nomination of ROK Marine Corps FC


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Re: About korean football club deletion
Last April, all of these articles were deleted as the result of a deletion discussion (found here). The articles you created are not substantively different from the ones that were deleted three months ago and do not address the concerns brought up in the discussion, meaning they qualify for speedy deletion per WP:CSD. If you can address these concerns by providing significant coverage of these clubs in reliable sources, I will gladly drop my objections to their inclusion in the encyclopaedia. As for your argument concerning certain American clubs, I refer you to WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Each article is to be adjudged on its own merits. Also please be aware, that the creator of an article is not permitted to remove speedy deletion tags from it. Finally, when posting on a talk page please type four tildes (~) after your comment. Doing so displays your username, and the time and date you posted it, which makes it easier to keep track of who said what. I hope that clarifies things. Best Regards. Sir Sputnik (talk) 09:53, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of ROK Army FC


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Proposed deletion of Korea Automobile Insurance Company FC


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Speedy deletion nomination of ROK Navy FC


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Speedy deletion nomination of ROK Marine Corps FC


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Speedy deletion nomination of Korea Exchange Bank FC


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Speedy deletion nomination of Seoul Trust Bank FC


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Speedy deletion nomination of Korea Automobile Insurance Company FC


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Speedy deletion nomination of Korea First Bank FC


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A Word of warning
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Nomination of List of FC Seoul transfers 2005-2009 seasons for deletion
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January 2013
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 * I didn't even notice the "canvassing" post until now, but I took the courtesy of replying to you. You can read the answer at my talk page. Mentoz86 (talk) 03:01, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

South Korean football
Please read the second paragraph of WP:CFD — established categories should not be emptied without a discussion. For that reason, my actions were simply restoring things to the way they were before you emptied the category out of process. If you take the category to CFD and obtain consensus, I'll definitely not obstruct the change of categories. Nyttend (talk) 12:36, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * As I said before, stop attempting to move categories out of process. Moreover, why are you moving lots of pages from their previous "K-League" titles without any explanation?  As WP:MOVE says, the "Reason for move" portion is as essential as an edit summary.  Nyttend (talk) 06:29, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Again, this is prohibited by policy. You're tagging categories under C1, which does not apply to categories whose contents have been removed out of process.  Please file some CFDs if you want to see these categories moved; my lack of knowledge about the situation means that I have no opinion on whether these moves be needed or not.  Nyttend (talk) 13:10, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I am a volunteer also. There are other people here who understand both Korean and English and pay attention to football.  When I attempt to edit other languages' Wikipedias, I do my best to follow their policies, and if I find that I've done something problematic, I stop.  Nyttend (talk) 13:20, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm only asking you to participate in building consensus and helping others to know why you're doing what you're doing. When I first mentioned this issue yesterday, I wasn't yet impatient: I don't expect newcomers to understand the way we do things.  The problem is that you continue despite my links and warnings.  Nyttend (talk) 13:32, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I couldn't care less about Korean football. Go with a CFD or drop the issue.  Nyttend (talk) 14:47, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I found it while patrolling our speedy deletion category, since you had tagged a page for speedy deletion that did not qualify, and you continued asking me to ignore our policies and objecting that they were not accurate. It is surely good to improve accuracy, but not in a way that can cause chaos.  Please look through Category:User ko-3, Category:User ko-4, or Category:User ko-N to find someone who speaks good English (look for someone who is also in Category:User en-3, en-4, or en-N) and who has made contributions recently.  You can use Korean to tell this person why you want the category to be moved, and he will then be able to explain in English what to do.  You could also go to the language reference desk, explain that you need help starting a WP:CFD, and write in Korean the reasons for trying to get the category moved.  Someone will be able to translate your reasons and start the process of moving the category.  Nyttend (talk) 15:48, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It's my responsibility to stop people who disrupt the encyclopedia, especially when they repeatedly refuse polite attempts to point them in the correct direction. I'm trying to work around your unfamiliarity with English, but since you blame me for the situation and refuse to take advantage of assistance, I don't particularly see much reason to continue to try to help you.  I will continue to watch for disruptive editing, whether emptying categories out of process or ignoring consensus on navboxes, and you will end up being blocked if you cannot participate in building consensus.  Nyttend (talk) 01:42, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|alt=|link=]] This is your last warning. The next time you make personal attacks on other people, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. Nyttend (talk) 01:54, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Confused
Just out of interest - what is this about? PanydThe muffin is not subtle 21:03, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

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Template:FC Seoul
You seem to be the main editor of the Template here as far as I can see, I don't think it needs to have the honours on it, Manchester United F.C. and Arsenal F.C. doesn't, maybe you want to bring it more in line with that style of template? Govvy (talk) 17:16, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Also please note, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football, I did bring it up on the project page and I am giving you a chance to change it before I change it myself. Govvy (talk) 11:44, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I've removed the excess information, this is not needed at all and is not standard on football navboxes. GiantSnowman 13:39, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I suggest you join in the discussion at WT:FOOTY, there is consensus that the information is excessive. GiantSnowman 12:45, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Osan Middle School FC for deletion
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School teams to Youth articles.
May I suggest instead of creating school team pages, that you actually use the information and put it in Reserve and Academy pages for the actual clubs instead. regards, Govvy (talk) 21:18, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Park Hee-Seong


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Proposed deletion of New York City FC


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Disruptive edits on Seoul National University
Dear user, we have detected that you are making disruptive edits on the 서울대학교 Seoul National University page. If you wish to raise an issue, put it forth on the SNU talk page. You seem to be deleting because WP:IDONTLIKEIT. As we wrote about the Kyungsung issue. Either you write it Gyeongseong Daehak (Revised Romanization) or Kyŏngsŏng Taehak (McCune-Reischauer). You wrote this, "But We don't change accurate name because of foreigners confusing". Yes, we did change the name to not confuse foreigners, and we changed it in 1997. 강원대학교 uses Kangwon University because the institution still exists, and it continues to use the McCune-Reischauer system for proprietary reasons. 전남 Dragons uses Chunnam because it still exists today. Snowfalcon cu Snowfalcon cu (talk) 04:18, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi,,,Are you Korean? I explain why I edited them. Before 2000, Korean wrote Kyungsung Kyonggi (Location Name),Koo (Family name), But 2000 We is wrighting Gyunsung, Gyeonggi, Goo..... I hope that you understand themFootwiks (talk) 02:02, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
 * 네 안녕하세요. As we wrote in the tag line, after 1997, the Korean government decided to write the old name 경성대 as Gyeongseong in the Revised Romanization system. Kyungsung University, in Busan, still used the Mccune-Reischauer system for its name. Snowfalcon cu (talk) 02:07, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
 * They do so to now confuse the two institutions. Snowfalcon cu Snowfalcon cu (talk) 04:18, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
 * See Keijo Imperial University page for details. Either you write Gyeongseong Daehak (Revised Romanization) or Kyŏngsŏng Taehak (McCune-Reischauer), but not Kyungsung, which is another institution in 부산.  Snowfalcon cu (talk) 04:18, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Kyungsung University used before 1950s under Japanese rulling, We can't change the name at that time by current Revised Romanization. In Korea, Old School, Hospital, Sport Club used still old Revised Romanization. For example Kangwon National University, Chunnam Dragons. Kyungsung University and Kyungsung University of Seoul's counfusing is not important. Just foreigners are confusing. But We don't change accurate name because of foreigners confusing.Footwiks (talk)



경성대학교(慶星大學校) in Busan 경성제국대학교(京城, 게이조)in Seoul

Kyungsung University in Busan and Kyungsung University in Seoul are same Korean prononcitiona but Chineases letter is differtent. So meaning is different. Why Kyungsung University in Seoul change to Gyeongsoung. Actually Kyungsung Univerisity in Seoul is older thant Busan's.Footwiks (talk)

Let's debate later on. At the moment I'm busyFootwiks (talk) 02:39, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
 * There is no debate on this matter. Korean government rule applies here, not Wiki user preference.  You may write Gyeongseong Daehak or Kyŏngsŏng Taehak, but you may not write Kyungsung University, which is an extant university in Busan. If you have an issue, bring it up on the SNU Talk page. Snowfalcon cu (talk) 04:18, 18 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I also think that there is no debate on this matter. This is just foreinger's ingnorance. Don you know proper noun?

Korean government rule applies only things with government. School name, Hospital name, Sport club name, Company nanem, Personal name are not applied. Revised Romanization is not law. We can use still old Romanization at School name, Hospital name, Sport club name, Company name. Kyungsung University in Seoul before 1950s is not related Korean government.Footwiks (talk)
 * Foreigners do not apply name rules to Korean institutions, but we Koreans do. We keep telling you, you may write Gyeongseong or Kyŏngsŏng, but not Kyungsung.  It is not foreign ignorance because Koreans apply this rule.  Take a look at this article when the Koreans wrote it. Since 2003
 * Seoul_National_University&oldid=5366022.
 * Seoul_National_University&oldid=9569272
 * Even more important, not only is your spelling wrong, it also confuses. To be sure, we went to Google search.  When I type Gyeongseong University, I get 5170 results that link to the original university.  But, when I type Kyungsung University, I get 191,000 results that link to Busan.  Snowfalcon cu (talk) 04:18, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
 * As we wrote before, you may address the issue in the SNU Talk Page. Fortunately this has nothing to do with foreign ignorance. Snowfalcon cu (talk) 04:18, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
 * As we wrote above in several places, you are welcome to write Gyeongseong University (국어의 로마자 표기법) or Kyŏngsŏng University (매큔-라이샤워 표기법). Both names written above are official by Seoul National University (서울대학교).  SNU Wiki article has been using "Gyeongseong University" since 2003. Visit search.snu.ac.kr/popup.jsp. Snowfalcon cu (talk) 12:26, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Re: Sangju Sangmu FC
Hi Footwiks, the article was already at requested moves before you contacted me, so best to let the RM run it's course. If you wish to support or oppose the move you should express your opinion here. Regards &#9733;&#9734; DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 22:47, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of FC Seoul players in major competitions


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Nomination of List of FC Seoul players in major competitions for deletion
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Speedy deletion nomination of Chung Mong-gyu
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List of FC Seoul players
Please do not continue to add an indiscriminate list of players; use the article talk page and stop acting like you OWN the page at once. GiantSnowman 10:48, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I implore you again to use the article talk page; you should also stop accusing other editors of vandalism, and stop violating WP:OWN. GiantSnowman 11:53, 22 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I have to agree with GiantSnowman here. The article was (and still is) in a terrible state. You claim that the !voters in the AfD didn't have a problem with the article content, when quite the opposite was true. There are several "List of ... players" articles at Featured List status, and I suggest we model this article on those. If you have a problem with that, I suggest you set up your own FC Seoul wiki, but don't treat Wikipedia as your own personal FC Seoul project. – PeeJay 21:05, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Footwiks, your edits here are becoming increasingly concerning and disruptive, and if they continue in this vein then we might need to take further action against you. None of us want to see it come to that. GiantSnowman 14:44, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * GiantSnowman, Comply with the result of disscution. 3 years ago, List of FC Seoul players was independent article, But after discutions, we merged this articled to List of FC Seoul players. On this article, We can wright anyting about FC Seoul players. There are several "List of ... players" articles. Why is this problem? This articel is giving various information to wiki users. Do you think that your edition is informative? That is just name list. Put yourself in wikiuser's place. Many people visit wikepedia, In order to find useful and various information. Which edition is informative? I hope you have flexibility. Wikepedia is not military system.

Don't suppress freedom of editing. I thnk that you want to delete this articel. But you failed so you everyday vandal again. Concentrate on a fruitful thing and take it easy. My edition exist 3 years. But anything don't happen on Wikipedia.Footwiks (talk) 14:59, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Firstly, please do not mess with my signature. Secondly, what discussion do you refer to? if you mean the recent AFD, there was consensus there that the topic was notable but the current state of the article was far from deal. Myself and another user have attempted to solve that problem, by both editing the article and posting on the talk page - all you have done is blindly revert. When you say "my edition" you are showing severe and disturbing signs of page ownership which you need to stop at once. GiantSnowman 15:08, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Remember that, When we debate Many people don't point out contents of article, After fail of deleting, Everyday you point out contents of article, After creation, any people don't point out contents of article, you are first man. If the ariticle have serious problem. Why artice exist 3 years more. I appreciate of your controlling for wikipedia. But Please believe wiki users and Concentrate on a fruitful thing and take it easy. My mother tongu is not English. Don't get my expresion wrong. If you debate in korean language or another language. You also can't communicate exactly. Footwiks (talk) 15:26, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Your Engish is very poor which is making discussion with you very difficult. All you need to understand is that a number of editors have raised new concerns about the content of an article, it is being discussed on the talk page, and you are editing against that in a disruptive manner. GiantSnowman 15:44, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

You are editing against the consensus om the article talk page and becoming increasingly disruptive. Please use the article talk page to discuss changes to the article rather than blindly reverting. GiantSnowman 13:22, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

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 * Would you kindly explain "I understood why I was blocked" with appropriate examples of how you applied policy incorrectly and how you would apply it correctly since you've understood how you were in error before. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 05:26, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I did a disruptive editing on List of FC Seoul players repeatedly. I neglected the consensus.


 * And how long do you expect to take to raise your degree of competence in the English language to the necessary level? Because right now it is clearly not adequate. -- Anthony Bradbury  "talk" 15:17, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll raise my degree of competence in the English language as soon as possilbe. I'll study English everyday. 2 weeks is enough.


 * If Footwiks agrees to stop editing the List of FC Seoul players article for a bit, and instead use the article talk page to come to an agreement on format and inclusion criteria, then I say we should unblock. If any similar disruption/editing patterns occur in the future then we should re-block. GiantSnowman 16:29, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
 * (1)"I did a disruptive editing on List of FC Seoul players repeatedly. I neglected the consensus." is demonstration of adequate communication skills, I've been communicating in English all my life, yet often I am heckled for it being woeful. So two weeks sounds like being a little too optimistic. (2.0) I suggest you use spell check before you save your talk page edits. (2.1) Do you mean Footwiks that you would'nt revert anyone who undoes your edits? That would be a wonderful policy to follow, it is a little frustrating to begin with, but in the long run it keeps one out of trouble. My experience. (3)Footwiks I think you should take GS's advice regarding List of FC Seoul players as a formal topic ban directive. Wikipedia is a huge place 4 million articles, enjoy other places too. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 20:20, 9 August 2013 (UTC)


 * One area of competence that needs attention - not posting in talk page archives - this is something you have already been told about before! GiantSnowman 14:10, 10 August 2013 (UTC)


 * OK, I agree to stop editing the List of FC Seoul players article. I'll use the article talk page to set a informative format and incusion critera about article.Footwiks (talk) 17:15, 10 August 2013 (UTC)


 * When am I unblocked? Please review my appeal and unblock me.Footwiks (talk) 17:13, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

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I've reverted your edit because the template is still used in articles, and there is no speedy deletion criteria which covers it. As such you need to nominate it for deletion following these instructions. Thanks, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:37, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually never mind, just realised that you removed it from the articles it's used in. Are you sure that this will be completely uncontroversial? Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:39, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't worry man, Busan Daewoo Royals and Busan IPark officialy same club. And articles also merged. And I removed templates on Busan Daewoo managers. This templeate not used any more. I'm sure that it will be completely uncontroversial. In Korean wikepedia, Also There isn't Busan Daewoo Royals manger templete.Footwiks (talk) 12:49, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
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Cosmos vs New York Cosmos
Any particular reason you dropped the "Cosmos" listing from the teams of NASL chart? The franchise did change for the 1977 & 1978 seasons by dropping "New York" from the name. Part of their rational was b/c they'd moved out of the city to Giants Stadium in NJ in 1977, the other was b/c they felt they'd become a global brand like Santos or Juventus. Every NASL game program and newspaper story I've read from that time frame referred to them as the "Cosmos" only. In fact the 1979 NASL programs that contained stats from 1978 season listed the players as playing for "Cosmos" while every other team was listed by "City & Mascot" (e.g. Washington Diplomats). Some NPs even poked fun at the presumptuous nature of the name change. Of course the franchise then returned to the original name in 1979.

Based on these facts, I think it's correct to list a franchise known as "Cosmos" on the chart, since it did in fact exist for 2 years. This is no different than the Atlanta Chiefs becoming the Apollos in 1973 (i.e. same franchise, same owners, same location, different name) or the Miami Gatos becoming the Miami Toros. I'll leave it to you. Kind regards. -Creativewill (talk) 14:26, 29 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your visiting. I was interested in old NASL. So I already aware of name change of New York Cosmos. But current NASL chart, It is easy to misconstrue. Chart is displayed like New York Cosmos and Cosmos are separate club. As you know, New York Cosmos (1971-76, 1979-84) and Cosmos (1977-78) are officialy same club. It's a just team name change. So I correct them.

Anyway I have a question. At that time, if the club relocated, officially considerd an new team by NASL?. So history and competitive records would not be transferred? For example, Are Belows club officially same club or separate club?

Washington Darts, Miami Gatos / Toros, Fort Lauderdale Strikers, Minnesota Strikers

Were they case by case? Some relocated club considered an same one club, Some relocated club considered an separted clubs?

I think NASL Chart have to be improved to be easy to understand. For Average men without NASL backgrounds, This chart is difficult.

Firstly, In relocation case, Distingish same club case and separate club case.

If the Washington Darts, Miami Gatos / Toros, Fort Lauderdale Strikers, Minnesota Strikers are same club, regadless of relocation, Items in chart and articles in Wikipedia have to be merged.

Please refer to this section, All-time K League Clubs part at K League, Similary, many clubs in K League had name change and relocation, But Chart is easy to understand about franchise and club name changing history.

I hope that NASL Chart have to be improve like All-time K League Clubs part. Thanks. Footwiks (talk) 02:35, 30 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Because the NASL has a finite history, none of the teams are currently active (unlike in other leagues) and therefore the list will not continue to grow over time as might occur in other leagues, regardless of the sport. The purpose of the chart is to show every team-name that existed, no matter how subtle or drastic the change. Also, there are those who only remember one team in a particular city, when there were actually two, three or even four! This list facilitates that. Previously the chart was not chart, but instead just a list containing only the information now found in the third column. It was difficult to view and it was difficult to find teams, if you didn't know their entire naming history. The four-columned chart clarified the list.


 * I'm not sure what confuses you about the chart. The columns are clearly defined. The column heading that says "evolution of franchise" indicates that all teams in that progression are the same franchise.
 * 1. The chart is done in such a way that you can clearly reference every NASL franchise by any name the franchise ever used (column one).
 * 2. You can clearly see how long the franchise existed (column two).
 * 3. You can clearly see all of the names the franchise used chronologically (column three).
 * 4. You can clearly see what other league(s) the franchise played in (column four).


 * I wonder if your confusion comes from your lack of 100% proficiency with the English language. This is not meant as an insult. I say this only because your comments contained NUMEROUS minor errors that are consistent with some who does not use English as their primary language. It's not uncommon to miss the subtleties of a second language when conversing with a native speaker.


 * As I said, because the original NASL no longer exists, none of the teams are currently active and the list will NOT continue to grow over time as might occur in places like the K League. In conclusion, I would ask you to consider your edit, by reverting your changes to the chart. As it currently reads with your changes, you have created confusion by making it appear that the "Cosmos" never existed as an official team name of the old NASL, which you clearly know is incorrect. -regards, Creativewill (talk) 04:11, 1 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I admit and understand your chart has advantage that you explained and intended. But your chart also has disadvantage. Your chart don't have function that distinguish club change history - including team name, franchise and just team name change history and just franchise change histroy.

Therefore, your chart have too many rows about teams unnecessarily.

Your chart have 67 teams. 67 teams including New York Cosmos and Cosmos as each separate teams. New York Cosmos have to be counted as one team. In addition, regarless of relocations, If the predecessor and relocated club are officially considerd as an same club by NASL, So history and competitive records are transferred to relcocated club, involved all clubs have to be counted as on team.

OK, your chart has unique advantage and purpose. So I accept that and I don't care about English Wikipedia.

But in old NASL article of Korean wikepedia, I want to arranged them as belows

1. One club has only one row.

For example
 * New York Cosmos (1971-84) : New York Cosmos (1971-76) -> Cosmos (1977-78) -> New York Cosmos (1979-84)

2. Regadless of franchise relocation, Officail successor club has one row including all predecessor changing history.

For example
 * Minnesota Strikers (1970-1984) : Washington Darts (1970-1971) -> Miami Gatos (1972) -> Miami Toros (1973-1976) -> Fort Lauderdale Strikers (1977-1983) -> Minnesota Strikers (1984)

Refer to St. Louis Rams article, I want to express club change history as bellows. Cleveland Rams (1936–1945) Los Angeles Rams (1946–1994) St. Louis Rams (1995–present)

About 2 principle, I need your help, I don't have informations about decision of connecting predecessor and successor at that time. I think, some club considered as an same club, some club considered as an each club by NASL at that time, Where can I check out them?

If you have informaitons, I hope to create new chart including club change history like St. Louis Rams article. Footwiks (talk) 12:29, 1 June 2014 (UTC)


 * It seems you are making this more difficult than it needs to be. All of the information you seek is within that chart. It will just require some time to extract it for your purposes on the Korean wiki. What is clear in one language or culture may not be the same in another. In the English chart, if the names all appear in Column 3 together, then it is the same franchise. Therefore I would say to use Column 3 of the chart as a starting basis for what you want to do on the Korean wiki page (but please return the English chart to the way you found it). Regarding using Column 3 from the NASL teams chart; since those names are linked to the NASL teams' pages you can find the time frames you are searching for by navigating to the links. For example in the 5th row: the Baltimore Comets, San Diego Jaws, Las Vegas Quicksilvers, and the San Diego Sockers are all the same franchise. The oldest comes first and the most recent is listed last. It requires some time to do it the way you want, but all of the information (the dates) is already there for you. The only ones that are really tricky would be the 2nd Atlanta Chiefs franchise, the 2nd Washington Diplomats franchise (because they recycled a name when they moved), and the whole Toronto Metros, Metros-Croatia, Blizzard evolution (it was a team, then a merger, then a split). I think every NASL team named has its logo and its final kit used listed on its page, therefore you can grab those as well for your purposes on the Korean wiki.


 * So in the end I think you will have about 43 different NASL franchises that used 67 names. Exactly how you think is the best way to display them on the Korean wiki, is not for me to say. That is because my knowledge of your culture and language is very limited. I am not qualified. Regards -Creativewill (talk) 15:13, 1 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I see no "chart" on the St. Louis Rams page pertaining to team evolution. Creativewill (talk) 15:17, 1 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I reverted to chart that you created on a team names basis. So New York Cosmos has two rows. But Your chart have to take a note about the total number of teams. 67 teams are wrong. There were just 67 team names. About 43 teams or 43 clubs is accurate.

Including Premier League, All leagues over the World, In this case, Bellow comment is general
 * 3 teams that played in the Premier League,

Not commented like your chart
 * 7 teams that played in the Premier League,

For example

Royal Arsenal -> Wollich Aresla -> Asenal FC (counted as one team)

Newton Heath FC -> Manchester United FC (counted as one team)

St Domingo's F.C. -> Everton FC (counted as one team)

I think '67 teams' is a misleading information.

So I hope that you take a note about the total numbur of teams and the total numbur of team names in detail. Footwiks (talk) 06:19, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

English Grammar Lesson

 * The way you've edited the sentence, the meaning is now untrue. First of all if it were true, the math used in the sentence changes, but you failed to recognize that fact and edit thusly.

Now for the big part of the lesson:
 * Originally the sentence read, "Over half of the 67 teams that played in the NASL over the course of its 17 seasons were relocations of existing franchises, while a handful were merely name changes of existing teams like the Apollos, Cosmos and Earthquakes."


 * This statement was correct as it stood because the predicate nominative (i.e. relocations of existing franchises) correctly re-identifies the subject (i.e. Over half of the 67 teams) as being the same franchises –which is what you keep trying to say with your misguided edit. Moreover, in layman's terms (in the English language anyway) very few would ever think of the Baltimore Comets (for example) as the same "team" as San Dego Sockers, even though they are clearly the same franchise.


 * Is it a coincidence that the only person who seems to have had an issue with the wording of this section of the NASL page is a non-native English speaker? I see from your reading your talkpage history that this is not the first time the language barrier has created issue for you with other editors. I understand that your intentions are well-meant, but please get a better command of English before you edit anymore English wiki pages. Once again please revert the section to the correct English language meaning. Kind regards -Creativewill (talk) 14:34, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

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FC서울 경기일정 추가 관련
안녕하세요. 우선 경기 일정 기여에 대한 지적 감사합니다. 링크만 걸어두신 의도 또한 이해했구요. 단지 1)순수한 팬심 2)공식 홈페이지 영문판에 스코어만 있고 세부 기록은 없는 점 2가지로 인해 경기일정 추가를 하기로 했다는 점 아셨으면 합니다. 2013, 2014년은 시작한 만큼 어느정도 완성은 시켜놓고 2015 시즌 경기 일정은 추후에 생각해보겠습니다. 마지막으로 제 기여 기록 그대로 보존해주신 거에 대해서 감사드립니다. Three97 (talk) 12:47, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

토론 페이지 글 잘 읽었습니다. 일단 2014 시즌 경기 일정은 거의 마무리 되었기에 완성시키고, 문서 하단의 스탯 기록의 경우 FC 서울 문서 상세기록 부분에 이전에 추가시켜놓은 것이 있어 그대로 쓰면 될 것 같아요. 다가오는 2015 시즌 역시 일정 기여는 하지 않고 대신 스탯 및 이적시장, 포메이션 부분 기여에 집중하기로 했습니다. 좋은 지적 감사드립니다. Three97 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 04:37, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Don't vandal?
You upload a non-free image (according to our guidelines it IS non-free, you didn't provide any authorization), and you call ME a vandal? You're the one removing a 100% reliable image, dude.

Get your facts straight before calling someone a vandal, I'm here for five years. MYS  77  ✉ 15:40, 12 March 2015 (UTC)


 * And only because the player is not playing for that club anymore, you don't need to remove the pic of him while in that club. Bruno Peres is not at Santos, Alessio Cerci is not at Torino and Robinho is not at Milan. MYS  77  ✉ 15:47, 12 March 2015 (UTC)



I'm here 7 years, I already knew the guidelines, if this photo is non free image, I don't upload.

This photo original source is as belows. http://www.fcseoulpics.com/pics/picsDetail.jsp?pic_code=20141111027&cid=1&pg=2&searchFromIndex=

This photo is done by FC Seoul. But FC Seoul provide this photos to publice free. Anyone can download and post this photo. This is why FC Seoul create photo service website.

Osmar is now playing for FC Seoul. My recent photo is more suitable.Footwiks (talk) 15:50, 12 March 2015 (UTC)


 * "Suitable" or not, you don't need to remove the other image. Feel free to thank the "vandal" here. MYS  77  ✉ 15:55, 12 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry to removing, I didn't think that moving the photo to the text. current version is good.Footwiks (talk) 15:58, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Football in Paris
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I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Football in Paris for deletion, because it's too short to identify the subject of the article.

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Son Heung-min
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Why do you revert my edits ? it was not vandalism ! I just change to be some like on other articles ! I undo you edits ! Thank you !--Alexiulian25 (talk) 15:55, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

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Dejan Damjanović
Hello, where did you get stats for Dejan for Beijing? because both Soccerway and National-football-teams (two of the most realible sources) have 45/25 league stats for chinese super league 86.58.36.235 (talk) 11:48, 20 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Please refer to CSL offcial stats from http://csldata.sports.sohu.com/ssb.html and Goalscorer section at 2014 Chinese Super League, 2015 Chinese Super League

Don't believe soccerway. Beijing was Round of 16 in 2015 AFC Champions League. But your stats that Dejan played 9 matches. Group Stage - 6 matches and Round of 16 - 2 matches. Dejan can't play 9 matches in 2015 AFC Champions League.

Please believe meFootwiks (talk) 11:58, 20 March 2016 (UTC)


 * But he played against bangkok glass in the playoffs, so 1 playoff, 6 group stage, 2 round of 16 = 9 apps 86.58.36.235 (talk) 12:00, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, I checked out ACL playoff. 9 match is right.

But From chinese source, Chinese League Stats are accuate as belows


 * Dejan 5 Goals in Jiangsu Suning F.C. 2014


 * Dejan 10 Goals in Beijing 2014


 * Dejan 16 Goals in Beijing 2015


 * Is csldata.sports.sohu.com/ssb.html an official website of chinese super league? It looks like some sports news website, not official website run by Chinese Football Association 86.58.36.235 (talk) 12:09, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Almost offcial site about Chises Super League Stast. I think more reliable than Soccerway and national football teams.com. Soccerwy and national football teams.com have so many mistakes.

When Dejan come back December 2015, FC Seoul Official news, Dejan stats were 31 goals and 56 matches in CSL. http://www.fcseoul.com/news/news_view.jsp?news_seq=2&news_type=NEWS_LIST&part=News&seq=3453 Footwiks (talk)

Ok I believe you, but Flashscore which have live results reads 14 goals too (probably 5 for jingsu and 9 for beijing), maybe one of his goals was later listed as own goal / someone else's goal, and that chinese site forgot to change it ? 86.58.36.235 (talk) 12:24, 20 March 2016 (UTC)


 * OK. I will also checked out again through chinese internet. If I found a mistake. I'll change it. Footwiks (talk)


 * Transfermarkt has 10 goals for beijing in 2014 so you are probably right, the match against Zhejian Yiteng on 31 August 2014 is probably a problem, transfermarkt claims that he scored 2 goals in this match, while soccerway claims one goal on that match, i will try to find youtube highlights for that match to see how many times he scored 86.58.36.235 (talk) 13:00, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Yup he scored twice in that match YouTube highlists so the stats are correct, soccerway is wrong 86.58.36.235 (talk) 13:03, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Good job. If you have a qustion about K League stats and FC Seoul player stats, Feel free to leave a message. I am updating through official source Don't belive soccerway and betting site too much.

I have a question. where are you from? Footwiks (talk)


 * Slovenia 86.58.36.235 (talk) 19:18, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
 * What do you think of Dejan's serbian club career and stats? Do you think that career is accurate? Can you check out Dejan's serbian club career and stats before 2007? Footwiks (talk) 02:30, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I understand serbian so I will try and check, but I think its pretty accurate 86.58.36.235 (talk) 10:42, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The stats were here http://www.srbijafudbal.net/zeleznik/otisli/damjanovic_d.htm but the link is dead and there is no archived page, http://www.national-football-teams.com/player/28136/Dejan_Damjanovic.html those stats are probably 99% correct (with exception of one missing beijing goal)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.58.36.235 (talk) 11:01, 21 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Why are k-league stats on official website different (LINK), for example 2008 = 33 games/18 goals, while on wikipedia career stats table is 29/15, are those playoff games (semifinal/final), or league cup/KFA cup games inlcuded ? 86.58.36.235 (talk) 11:11, 21 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Until 2011, There is a Korean League Cup and League Cup was the part of K League. Because two competions are managed by Korea Professional Football League. So K League Official stats, Regular League stats + League Cup Stats. Dejan in 2008 Season, League 29/15, League Cup 4/0. I can check out Reguar League and League Cup Stats separately. But English Offcial Stats are aggreagted. Since 2012, There is only Regular League and stats are same. Footwiks (talk) 11:26, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Former Yugoslavian players

 * I have a one more quesion. Can you find out some information about these players Boro Janičić, Željko Vyjeta. These players played for FC Seoul in 1990s. But We don't have Basic Birthday information. Can you check out throung serbian interent.


 * That would be very hard, but I found some stats for him (Janičić) -->

1990/1991	SUTJESKA	32	1

1989/1990	SUTJESKA	31	0

1988/1989	SUTJESKA	23	0

I will try to find date of birth, but that will be hard since he is unknown player 11:51, 21 March 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.58.36.235 (talk)


 * Željko Vyjeta (??) is probably wrong name, vyjeta is 101% not serbian last name and i cant find anything about him, probably some korean sources translated the name wrongly ? 86.58.36.235 (talk) 11:56, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
 * You're right. Name is uncertain. In Korean newspaper, His name was Baijeta Zeliko or Vaijeta Zeliko under the just prononciation. Is it possilbe Vyjeta Željko? is Željko surname?Footwiks (talk) 12:08, 21 March 2016 (UTC)


 * No, Željko is first name, im still searching 12:31, 21 March 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.58.36.235 (talk)


 * Maybe Željko Simović? He was born in 1967 too, and played in korea in 1994, but for Royals not for Cheetahs 86.58.36.235 (talk) 12:36, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
 * K-league profile has "70/07/01" as birthdate for Boro 86.58.36.235 (talk) 12:52, 21 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Željko Simović and Željko Vyjeta are different player. I know they are same name Željko and they played 1994 too. I have a fanbook 1994 LG Cheetahs. In Fanbook, Boro's birthday is just 1967. I think that K League Official Site made a mistake. Footwiks (talk) 15:44, 21 March 2016 (UTC)15:41, 21 March 2016 (UTC)


 * There is no info about any of those players anywhere, I found only this Link, its 2015 interview with Boro when he saved some kid who was drowing in the river, but it is not mentioned anything else, just that he was former player of Sutjeska, Obilić, Bodućnost and LG, so he probably end his career after 1994 86.58.36.235 (talk) 16:31, 21 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I think I found it, Željko Bajčeta, the name Vyjeta and Bajčeta sounds somehow similar, and he played in Cyprus in early 1990s too, I am 95% that this is the player 86.58.36.235 (talk) 20:24, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
 * What a Great. I also think that this man is the player who I find. There is a it:Željko Bajčeta and his career is almost same in comparison to his career in korean newspaper. Thanks a lot.Footwiks (talk) 01:55, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Can you do me a favor one more? Please check out these player information. Especially Aleksandar Jozević don't know birthday and former career.






 * Vlahović played for Sutjeska Nikšić (27 caps/4 goals) in the 1990/91 season and 2 caps/0 goals in the 1987/88 (Sutjeska), and for Vojvodina 3 caps/0 goals in the same 1987/88 season, other then that i didnt find anything, but will look for more now 86.58.36.235 (talk) 11:30, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
 * There are 0 sources about Jozević, player with that name didnt played a single game in the Yugoslav First League (maybe he played in 2nd divison, but its impossible to find any career stats/date of births for that), maybe the name is wrong here too, but Jozović sounds correct to me, its virtually impossible to find full date of birth for those unknown average players born before 1975 86.58.36.235 (talk) 12:07, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, I understand and I also check out his name again. Thanks for your trouble.Footwiks (talk) 14:44, 22 March 2016 (UTC)


 * One more question. How do I prononciate Bajčeta? Let me know the prononciation. What is the similar English prononciation. Baicheta or Baijeta? Baiseta? or Bacheta? or Bajeta? or Baseta?Footwiks (talk)


 * I sent the correct information to K League Official Stat Controller. They will fix the wrong information soon.Footwiks (talk) 14:50, 22 March 2016 (UTC)


 * "Bye-che-tah", like "bye" in "goodbye", "che" like in "Chelsea" 86.58.36.235 (talk) 14:53, 22 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I got it, Thanks a lot. Final ask...Can you fill out the manigial career of Jasmin Mujdža. He came FC Seoul as new fitness coach.
 * He managed only Segesta for a few months, and was previously an assistant manager at the same club 86.58.36.235 (talk) 16:08, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, according to Template:Infobox football biography, there should be no "coach", "fitness coach" etc. in the infobox, it reads "The first club that the person has served within the capacity of team manager. Please do not list positions other than team manager (such as assistant or coach positions, or director of football roles where this role is not considered managerial) unless that position is a significant part of the person's career;" 86.58.36.235 (talk) 16:22, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

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Ulsan Hyundai Mipo Dockyard Dolphin FC
Ulsan Hyundai Mipo Dockyard FC sound OK to me 86.58.36.235 (talk) 12:29, 30 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Team by that name did not play in 1994/95 anywhere in top4 divisions in czech republic, maybe it does but with different name http://www.rsssf.com/tablest/tsje95.html 86.58.36.235 (talk) 09:42, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe it was Slovan Liberec 86.58.36.235 (talk) 09:49, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * There is no move proposal, you have to use Ulsan Hyundai Mipo Dockyard FC at the talk page 86.58.36.235 (talk) 08:22, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Probably the less games played to reach 150 goals or something like that, I alredy edited it a little bit on his page, can you give me some news article that confirm this record so I can add a reference, I searched http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/ but there the record is not mentioned, only the result 86.58.36.235 (talk) 15:03, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I forgot about double nationality rule in korea, I thought he has both korean and argentine passport 86.58.36.235 (talk) 13:44, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, I watched FC Seoul vs. man united in july 2009 solely because of snsd performance on halftime, and I started to follow korean football and baseball since then, I'm 25 86.58.36.235 (talk) 13:55, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes it was that match, i remember that dejan scored two goals...I would love to but its kind a expensive to go to korea, only plane tickets alone for both ways costs over 1,500 euros (around two million won) 86.58.36.235 (talk) 14:08, 5 August 2016 (UTC)


 * How is "완전이적" translated? It is oppose of "free transfer" I guess, but how do you call this in English? Google translated is "perfect transfer" but that doesnt sound right 86.58.36.145 (talk) 10:58, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

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 * Sorry, I noted a comment. Don't Get me wrong. Gwangju Sangmu FC and Sangju Sangmu FC is officially different club. Offcially, Sangju Sangmu FC is founded in 2011. So I divided honours.

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In order to move category, Do I discuss again? --Footwiks (talk) 09:56, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Please How to move this category? Footwiks (talk) 10:04, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Category:Lokomotiv Tashkent players
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 * In that case, WP:C2D applies per Talk:PFC_Lokomotiv_Tashkent.
 * Feel free to list the relevant categories at WP:CFDS.
 * But absolutely no more move-warring of categories, as you did before. It is massively disruptive. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:04, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, This is last. But I can't move. Can you move that instead of me?

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Directors
Agree, I think it means corporate directors only. 'Directors of football' (as a job title) would be in. GiantSnowman 11:56, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot07:47, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 'Non-playing staff' includes any coaches, scouts etc. - but not managers, who have their own category. GiantSnowman 08:39, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * OK. I just created Category:association football scouts...Because other sports scout categroy already existed. For example Category:National Football League scouts, Category:Major League Baseball scoutsFootwiks (talk) 14:38, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS might apply, but it's worth joining in the discussion. Link is Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football. GiantSnowman 14:47, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

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 * Please read this article and watch the photos.


 * DGB대구은행파크 개장 마케팅…축구꿈나무에 티켓 1천장

In Photo, Stadium have sign which is spelled as DGB Daegu Bank Park strictly. Daegu Forest Arena is not the official name and common name. This is just working name. But In AFC Champions League, They don't use DGB Daegu Bank. Likie UEFA Champions League Because DGB Financial Group is not the AFC Sponsors. So They made a dicision to use Daegu Forest Arena in AFC Champions League. That's all. This is not my opinion.

This is announed at newspaper.

Daegu FC. This is first appearance in AFC Champions League. Just 3 to 7 matches will be placed as name Daegu Forest Arena.

If you want to move, Firstly, move Emirates Stadium => Ashburton Grove or Arsenal Stadium, Allianz Arena => Fußball Arena Münche, Ajinomoto Stadium => Tokyo Stadium

One more. This is not the Kirklees Stadium, Stadio Friuli, City of Manchester Stadium case. These stadiums used as name Stadio Friuli, City of Manchester Stadium long time. In 1990 FIFA World Cup, Stadium name was also Stadio Friuli. They changed Dacia Arena and Etihad Stadium as sponsorship reason recently.

But Daegu Forest Arena is just working name and just will be use only in AFC Champions League some matches. Daegu FC is not the frequent pparticipant in AFC Champions League

Moreover, In South Korea, DGB Daegu Bank Park is definatlly common name.

I hope that you understand what I mean.

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세이버스

 * Hey, how is "세이버스" translated? Is this "sabres" like Buffalo Sabres, or "savers", which means "a person who regularly saves money through a bank or recognized scheme"? Its the former name of women's basketball team which won the title today Snowflake91  (talk) 13:07, 25 March 2019 (UTC)  Snowflake91  (talk) 13:07, 25 March 2019 (UTC)




 * Cheongju KB Kookmin Bank Savers (청주 KB 국민은행 세이버스) - Savers is translated into Korean world 저축인
 * Buffalo Sabres (버팔로 세이버스)- Sabres is translated into Korean world 군도(軍刀), But we also call ko:사브르

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Reliable sources
To be honest you're better off posting at WP:RSN for wider input, including specific details of the publisher etc. GiantSnowman 11:01, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

FC Seoul players
I've updated stats at List of FC Seoul players, but I'm not 100% sure if its correct.


 * I removed Song Jin-hyung stats as I cannot find sources for 2003-2007 and the info is probably not correct.
 * Is 395 for Go Yo-han correct? It was 368 before this season according to this article, in 2019 he has 35 league + 1 cup game, so it should be 404? But according to namu wiki and stats on Korean wiki FC Seoul players, he has 23 total appearances in FA Cup and 55 apps in ACL as of 2019, so with 305 league games and 10 league cup games, it should be 395 (including 2 apps in promotion-relegation 2018), unless something else is missing. Snowflake91  (talk) 13:39, 31 December 2019 (UTC)