User talk:For The Love Of Drums

Your submission at Articles for creation: VK Drums (February 25)
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 * Hi Thanks for this, I really appreciate it. It's always nice to be pointed in the right direction rather than scratching your head wondering what you did wrong.
 * I was trying to follow the structure of the wiki page of my favourite drum company TAMA Drums (Tama Drums). That being said, I hope my article was relatively good (ok at least? lol)... It's my 1st article on Wiki, looking to do more on drums so any advice you may have is MORE than welcome.
 * As per your comment, I have edited the VK Drums article with more references. Hopefully it's better :)
 * Thanks again,
 * For The Love Of Drums For The Love Of Drums (talk) 15:50, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I hope I have address this issue now :) Thanks for your help! For The Love Of Drums (talk) 15:12, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: VK Drums (February 25)
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S0091 (talk) 17:23, 25 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I hope I have resolved all the issues you mentioned. Thanks for your help! For The Love Of Drums (talk) 15:13, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, For The Love Of Drums. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Draft:VK Drums, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Liliana UwU (talk / contributions) 06:06, 28 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Liliana,
 * Thanks for your message. I'm aware of the guidelines and I have zero affiliation with VK Drums. I am a drummer from Canada and my favourite drummer (Danny Carey) from my favourite band "TOOL" uses VK Drums.
 * My favourite drum company TAMA has a page on Wikipedia and VK doesn't, so I thought I'd add it because they really are amazing drums and one of a kind really. Many famous drummers are using their drums now.
 * I think it would be kinda cool to have my article 'published' on Wikipedia, its almost like being an author/writer kinda lol. I already have ideas for other drum related articles as well!
 * Anyway, thanks for reaching out, let me know if there is anything else you need on my end, happy to help.
 * Have a great day! For The Love Of Drums (talk) 06:32, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: VK Drums (March 3)
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Why? I Ask (talk) 03:17, 3 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Why? I Ask! I appreciate the feedback. I'm trying my darnedest to be less 'promotiony', so I made sure pretty much every entry had a source attached to it. So it's not like 'THE COMPANY' said these words, it was other sources. But maybe I'll try to edit them down.
 * I tried to use my favourite drum company's Wiki page as a guide (TAMA Drums) and they have even less references than VK does. Many are from their own website. And I get it, it's difficult to get sources because no one really 'writes' about drum companies in popular magazines other than Modern Drummer. But it's confusing because I felt I followed the TAMA page pretty close and have more/better references but it's still being declined.
 * I'll try to edit, but any feedback you can provide is appreciated and no I'm not affiliated with VK in any way. I just love their stuff and my favourite drummer (Danny Carey from TOOL) uses them. I kinda want to be the 1st person to 'write about it' :) Thanks again! For The Love Of Drums (talk) 22:45, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi! I hope I have addressed the issues you mentioned! Thanks for your help! For The Love Of Drums (talk) 15:13, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:VK Drums has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:VK Drums. Thanks! Why? I Ask (talk) 03:30, 3 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Why? lol,
 * I have made a few changes, hopefully this is better! *fingers crossed*
 * Thanks again! For The Love Of Drums (talk) 23:25, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: VK Drums (March 5)
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CNMall41 (talk) 05:21, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

June 2023
Hello. Your recent edit appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person, organization or product added to a list should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's notability guideline. Thank you. MrOllie (talk) 13:39, 15 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi MrOllie,
 * I appreciate the note. I saw several other non-notable companies on the list so I thought I would add my favourite drum company as well, I didn't think it would be a big deal. I see now they have all been deleted. Not a problem, I appreciate the feedback.
 * That being said, I do have a stand-alone article in draft. It's taking quite a while to be reviewed unfortunately. The last communication I had was in March when it was declined. But I hopped on the 'live chat' area and got some GREAT help/advice from other users so I revamped it and submitted for review.
 * I feel the article is well written now. I cited over 20 references so just waiting (fingers crossed). Thanks again! For The Love Of Drums (talk) 19:25, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: VK Drums (July 17)
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Your submission at Articles for creation
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For The Love Of Drums (talk) 16:04, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Took your advice and deleted the drum shell materials info. Someone from the 'help chat' said the silver snare is very unique and can stay, as well as the signature drums.

Each line is cited from a publication as well.

Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks!

Your submission at Articles for creation: VK Drums (July 24)
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Your submission at Articles for creation
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For The Love Of Drums (talk) 22:49, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Removed the products and discogs. Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated!

Your submission at Articles for creation: The Terminator (Tama bell brass snare drum) (November 1)
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Ratnahastin (talk) 12:12, 1 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi. Thanks for the feedback.
 * They no longer make this drum so it's not really an advert. In the drum world it's the most sought after drum there is.
 * It's basically the drum version of this: Greeny (guitar) to some degree. Definitely the same ballpark. For The Love Of Drums (talk) 17:25, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: VK Drums (November 2)
 Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/New_question&withJS=MediaWiki:AFCHD-wizard.js&page=Draft:VK_Drums Articles for creation help desk] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by M4V3R1CK32 was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Updates made since last decline do not significantly move the needle on VK as a company being notable; submissions better demonstrate notability of a product. Coverage is largely small reviews of specific products; does not demonstrate WP:ORGDEPTH. Sources about the company do not meet WP:RS

Content continues to read like an advertisement, with excessive quotations proclaiming the virtues of the products (e.g. "beautifully polished", "sturdy VK-007 strainer").

Repeated declines demonstrate the topic is not suitable for placement in the mainspace leading to this rejection.

M4V3R1CK32 (talk) 23:15, 2 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi,
 * I appreciate the feedback, but every time it was rejected I went to the Real Tim Chat Help and people instructed me what to do, what to write and how to write it INCLUDING the quotes you mentioned. The said the quotes made it more notable.
 * Also, the line "beautifully polished round lugs and the sturdy VK-007 strainer" is a direct quote from the magazine. This is another source saying these words. My article is just 'reporting' what MusicRadar said, it has nothing to do with being an 'advert'. For The Love Of Drums (talk) 17:21, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

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