User talk:For the love of academia

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Again, welcome! Doug Weller talk 11:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

April 2024
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Lemba people, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Doug Weller talk 12:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Are you copying this from elsewhere?
Because just as your unsourced additions are against policy and can get you blocked, copying from elsewhere unless the source is expliclty copyright free is illegal, not just against policy. Doug Weller talk 12:52, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

What other accounts have you had?
Doug Weller talk 13:01, 3 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Hey Doug, I have added sources to everything I wrote now, and no I am not copying and pasting - believe it or not, I may actually have a bit of extra knowledge about the Lemba that you may be lacking. Regards :) For the love of academia (talk) 13:11, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Generally avoiding a question is done because the answer would incriminate the person. Doug Weller  talk 15:08, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Changing a quotation to suit your opinion is a form of vandalism
As you did here.Special:Diff/1217032938. Doug Weller talk 13:36, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia and copyright
Hello For the love of academia! Your additions to Lemba people have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues. It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices. Our policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, please ask them here on this page, or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Diannaa (talk) 21:25, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
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How many times do you need to be warned about adding unsourced material
Special:Diff/1224315888 is worrying, as you say you don’t understand why it was removed. Doug Weller talk 19:37, 17 May 2024 (UTC)


 * It was sourced, I added where I sourced it from Le Roux, Magdel (November 1999). "In The Search of Understanding The Old Testament In Africa: The Case of The Lemba" (PDF). University of South Africa, page 33. You can feel free to check if you wish For the love of academia (talk) 19:43, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The paragraph says
 * One example of oral tradition regarding origin of the Lemba centers around the time of the Babylonian Invasion and the subsequent fall of the First Temple when the Lemba left Judea. According to oral traditon, after fleeing persecution, the Lemba settled in Sena. This is seemingly confirmed by Yemenite Jewish folklore which states that "their ancient forebears migrated from Palestine to Yemen, exactly f
 * i see no source. What I see is a statement in Wikipedia’s voice and we don’t do that. The text above that has the source you mentioned but it’s my rewrite to make it accurately reflect the source. Add a source or I’ll delete it tomorrow. Doug Weller  talk 20:43, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * "vi) According to folklore of the Yemenite Jews, their ancient forebears migrated from Palestine to Yemen, exactly forty-two years before the destruction of the First Temple (3.2.1.2). This is again in concurrence with the above mentioned tradition of origin of the Lemba" direct quote from page 233 For the love of academia (talk) 23:46, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I've rewritten it to "One example of oral tradition regarding origin of the Lemba centers around the time of the Babylonian Invasion and the subsequent fall of the First Temple. According to Yemenite Jewish folklore, the Yemenite's predecessors "migrated from Palestine to Yemen, exactly forty-two years before the destruction of the First Temple". It is speculated that this folklore could be referring to the Lemba people due to the similarities it shares with Lemba oral tradition", coming from the quote on page 233 I mentioned above, hope that clears it up. For the love of academia (talk) 00:04, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Not on p. 233 of this pdf - and did you see the statement "The oral traditions of the Lemba and the historical, archaeological and genetic data constitute the possibility that the immigration of the Lemba to Africa could have taken place even before the Christian era, but more probably before the 6th century ". Comment on that? And did you see she uses Robert Gayre possibly more than anyone else? Comments on that? Doug Weller  talk 14:04, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It is literally on the page which has 233 written at the bottom, I have verified. It is normal for official numbers to sometimes not match the numbers allocated by the pdf. Double check if you want For the love of academia (talk) 18:50, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Do you realise how unhelpful that is? Readers will have access to the pdf but probably not the book, and that includes me. Interesting that you didn’t let me know what page on the pdf or answer my actual questions.  Doug Weller  talk 19:20, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay well it’s 244 on the pdf, but at the bottom of the page it say 233, sorry for the confusion. For the love of academia (talk) 22:45, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Le Roux is an unreliable source
See[]. I've read several of her other publications, she always depends heavily on Robert Gayre. Doug Weller talk 07:58, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Changing a quote so it is inaccurate
With this edit you added "some" to a quote from Tudor Parfitt - but he didn't write "some", he wrote "Those". Please explain. Doug Weller talk 11:45, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Adding material that made it appear that all Lemba follow the same culinary practices
Same link as above, the section headed "Dietary Laws". That isn't the case. This article misses out a lot of scholarly literature, probably due to pov editing such as yours. Doug Weller talk 12:35, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Your section on other forms of DNA testing was again unsourced
It was presumably original research. You'd need good secondary sources for it. You really shouldn't be editing anything until you learn our policies and guidelines. Doug Weller talk 14:28, 20 May 2024 (UTC)