User talk:FormerIP/Archive4

Heads up
You may wish to take a look at these edits. The anonymous IP is almost certainly the same one whom you reverted here a few weeks ago. Prioryman (talk) 01:05, 2 January 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks. It looks like someone else has already reverted. --FormerIP (talk) 01:14, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

The List of oldest universities in continuous operation NPOV issue (again)
Hello,

I would like to inform you that the NPOV discussion about the List of oldest universities in continuous operation, to which you participated, was reopened on the NPOVN.

The current discussion is ongoing on Neutral point of view/Noticeboard.

Regards, --Omar-Toons (talk) 09:11, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Arbitration/Requests/Case/Muhammad images closed
An arbitration case regarding Muhammad images has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:
 * 1) The community is asked to hold a discussion that will establish a definitive consensus on what images will be included in the article, and on where the images will be placed within the article. As with all decisions about content, the policies on verifiability and the neutral point of view must be the most important considerations. The editors who choose to participate in this discussion are asked to form an opinion with an open mind, and to explain their decision clearly. Any editor who disrupts this discussion may be banned from the affected pages by any uninvolved administrator, under the discretionary sanctions authorised in this decision. The decision reached in this discussion will be appended to this case within two months from the close of the case.
 * 2) Ludwigs2 is prohibited from contributing to any discussion concerning Muhammad.
 * 3) Ludwigs2 is banned from the English Wikipedia for one year.
 * 4) Tarc is admonished to behave with appropriate professionalism in his contributions to discussions about disputed article content.
 * 5) FormerIP is admonished to behave with appropriate professionalism in his contributions to discussions about disputed article content.
 * 6) Hans Adler is reminded to engage in discussions about disputed article content with an appropriate degree of civility.
 * 7) Standard discretionary sanctions are authorised for all pages relating to Muhammad, broadly interpreted.
 * 8) The participants in the dispute about depictions of Muhammad are reminded that editors who engage extensively in an intractable dispute can become frustrated, and that it is important to be aware that as editors we are limited in our ability to contribute constructively to a deadlocked disagreement. Our exasperation with a dispute can make us unprofessional or unreceptive to compromise. We therefore encourage the disputants of this case to consider if their participation in the coming community discussion of depictions of Muhammad would be useful, and we remind them that if they disrupt the community discussion they may be banned from the discussion or otherwise sanctioned under the discretionary sanctions provision of this case.

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Mediation about the Muhammad images RFC
Just to let you know I've opened a request with the Mediation cabal about the Muhammad images RFC. Please see the mediation request if you want to comment. -- Eraserhead1 &lt;talk&gt; 14:32, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Francis Bacon (artist)
I have posted a number of times on the talk page of this article, and the consensus is for the current status quo. The article went through a period of slo-mo edit-warring (which I think you were party to) but has now settled down., so why have you reverted my edit? Has some new information come to light? JonC Talk 21:14, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
 * JonC Talk 22:11, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Proposal to split Jeremy Bamber
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Don't attack other's religious beliefs
On Talk:Genesis creation narrative you insulted other's religion by calling part of it a "fairy tale". See WP:NPA. Here is part of it(emphasis mine):
 * "There is no rule that is objective and not open to interpretation on what constitutes a personal attack as opposed to constructive discussion, but some types of comments are never acceptable: Racial, sexist, homophobic, ageist, religious, political, ethnic, sexual, or other epithets (such as against people with disabilities) directed against another contributor. Disagreement over what constitutes a religion, race, sexual orientation, or ethnicity is not a legitimate excuse."  Zenkai    talk  03:50, 29 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't recall using an epithet of any kind directed against anyone. If you can point it out to me, I'll gladly strike it. --FormerIP (talk) 03:52, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * You called Genesis a "fairy tale".  Zenkai    talk  03:56, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It is. That's not a personal attack, unless you are concerned about the feelings of User:Genesis. --FormerIP (talk) 03:58, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * You obviously directed that comment at all Christians, therefore it is a personal attack. Don't do it again.  Zenkai    talk  04:00, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, please go away. --FormerIP (talk) 04:01, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit-warring
Please do not immediately revert good faith edits. As a reminder, this area is under discretionary sanctions, and editors could well be banned from the RfC. I am more than happy to discuss changes, but making immediate reverts is likely to escalate tensions, not de-escalate. --Elonka 22:54, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
 * As another example, this comment was not helpful. --Elonka 07:09, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

OfffertToHideImage.js
pasteing what I've said elsewhere.
 * Would there be any possibility of getting working demos of these? FormerIP (talk) 21:23, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You can test it right now, FormerIP. Go to User:FormerIP/common.js and create a page with the contents "importScript('User:HectorMoffet/OfferToHideImages.js');", then save the page.   Go to Muhammad and you'll see it.   Let me know if there's trouble.
 * Obviously, it's only this much work because it's a demo-- if we got consensus to use this on the page, you wouldn't have to alter your own user files in weird ways. --HectorMoffet (talk) 05:51, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Do try it out. --HectorMoffet (talk) 05:55, 9 March 2012 (UTC)


 * It's not working. --FormerIP (talk) 20:06, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * D'oh.  Such is the nature of software.
 * So, I've asked someone who knows more about this than me to take a look.   But in the mean time, I took screen grabs so you can see what it looks like from my account. --HectorMoffet (talk) 05:56, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, if you didn't already, clear your cache. --HectorMoffet (talk) 09:48, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

RfC
Please please please keep comments within your own section. Crosstalk would be unbelievably messy. It's usual RfC procedure, particularly for one of this size. No worries about it, but just a friendly reminder. Xavexgoem (talk) 01:25, 20 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't think it is normal procedure. Just a friendly reminder that you were asked to moderate the formulation of the RfC, not manage it. However, if you are planning to try to do that, I hope you will not be deleting cross-talk selectively. FormerIP (talk) 01:31, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It is. Most discussion happens in other areas, like the ===additional discussion=== areas in all sections. And of course I wouldn't selectively delete cross-talk; why would you think that? Xavexgoem (talk) 01:35, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, I'm glad to hear that. FormerIP (talk) 01:37, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Reverts on User talk:Jimbo Wales
These: are not vandalism. You shouldn't be removing comments from other people's talk pages just because they offend you, as stated in your first edit summary. Equazcion ( talk ) 13:04, 28 Mar 2012 (UTC)

Voting and commenting on WP:RFC/AAT
Hi FormerIP,

Was this comment a reply to my comment or a general point about the idea of using Borda count? Can you adjust the indent as appropriate? As the page stands, someone might not realise that there were two comments there (one from me, one from you).

Yaris678 (talk) 21:06, 25 March 2012 (UTC)


 * OK I have indented it. For future reference, please feel free to just dent any of my comments if I have not typed enough colons. Cheers. FormerIP (talk) 21:09, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you
Thank you. FormerIP (talk) 12:10, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!
Thank you very much. FormerIP (talk) 16:46, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Third opinion
Hey FormerIP,

Thanks for volunteering to provide a third opinion. The discussion is very long indeed. Some of your comments were on things we agreed on, for example:
 * 1) "Bromley86's Wikilink suggestion looks good to me".
 * 2) "Better syntax might be "Decades of lingering"
 * 3) "Think this should go. The wikilink is above if readers want background."

These points are already agreed on and thus you'd see them in both of our paragraphs at the top. In general anywhere you don't see me commenting after Bromley86 means we agreed on this point (seems I have much more time than he/she does), but you could look at the paragraphs at top to compare as well.

Also, some points weren't discussed by both us, as you can see Bromley86's comments end after the first paragraph (i.e no comments on second, third, forth and fifth), but you could know his opinion from looking at the paragraph at top (maybe trying to solve this by comparing the paragraphs at top is best?).  Mohamed CJ  (talk)  06:17, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Also, I have a small note regarding BICI report; it's independence is disputed by parts of the opposition and human rights activists, , .  Mohamed CJ  (talk)  07:47, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Don't Bight The Ips
You understand where I'm coming from right?74.163.16.52 (talk) 16:31, 5 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Sort of, but I don't think it's anything comparable to racism. FormerIP (talk) 18:35, 5 April 2012 (UTC)


 * As opposed to "sockism", as the IP was ID'd as a banned user (see User:Salvidrim/Tailsman67) and is now under "blockism". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:57, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
LOL! You have no idea how much I needed a laugh just now. Rivertorch (talk) 20:23, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Malawi President
Howdy FIP. I don't mind the current Malawi President not being numbered, however her 3 predecessors should be. The opposing editor seems to be reverting out of spite for me. GoodDay (talk) 22:03, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I see that it's no longer a grudge by Mewulwe. He's just basically being a dick with ownership issues. Apparently, nothing will be added to the Joyce Banda article, unless it gets Mewulwe's stamp of approval. GoodDay (talk) 14:56, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Bingu wa Mutharia
Kindly stop these edits ([]) and DISCUSS on the talk page (As ive initiated). Get consensus isntead of waringLihaas (talk) 19:39, 8 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Lihaas, have you gone crazy? One is an unsourced paragraph in a BLP currently linked to the front page. One is an obviously undue paragraph linking the death of a head of state to the prophesies of a televangelist. The third is unsourced and obviously unclear. Please don't restore any of it. FormerIP (talk) 19:42, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

UBF page question
FormerIP: Why is the reference a "self-pub source"? Can you explain why you removed it? Thanks. Bkarcher (talk) 01:30, 9 April 2012 (UTC)


 * It falls within the guideline WP:SELFPUB. The source is a website run by an individual. Citing the source itself does not provide evidence that the organisation CARM is a noteworthy organisation to the extent that its opinion of University Bible Fellowship is something that Wikipedia needs to mention. If CARM's criticisms can be found in a reliable source other than the CARM website, then that might change things. Formerip (talk) 01:34, 9 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok I understand now, especially after reading this about CARM. Bkarcher (talk) 04:00, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Claims
Thanks! I`ve put a little there. Perhaps could you now excuse my english. :) --Antur (talk) 16:58, 9 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, and thanks for letting Bernard know. To be honest, I don't think there is much to discuss. Jimmy Wales' talkpage is not really an international court for what goes on in non-English Wikipedias. Probably the user should be advised to appeal within Spanish Wikipedia. Formerip (talk) 17:14, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, too! We have tried to help the user but it has been impossible. He dont understand that information in Wikipedia need verifiables sources. The article seem to be an original (and very elogious) research about a radio broadcaster. Regards, Bernard (talk) 17:28, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!
Thanks. Formerip (talk) 14:55, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

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Muhammad images RfC
I noticed your restoration of the late !vote and thought I should point you to this discussion. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 14:07, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

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Deleting Files
Please do not delete test edits. I was going to archive it with the closing statement: "test editCurb Chain (talk) 20:35, 25 July 2012 (UTC)".Curb Chain (talk) 20:35, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * CC, if you expect anything different to happen, you really need to mark "test edit, please do not delete". Formerip (talk) 20:52, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

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WP:CRIME
I noticed that we worked together on WP:CRIME early last year when you expressed some concern about the "unusual—or has otherwise been considered noteworthy" clause in what has become PERP #2. It appears as though there may have been some consensus to striking the phrases to "unusual" and "well-documented", but nothing materialized with it. I think this is still problematic and am wondering if you have interest in addressing it again. Thanks! Location (talk) 03:36, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * FYI: I have reintroduced discussion of this in Wikipedia talk:Notability (people). Cheers! Location (talk) 00:43, 22 August 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks. Will take a look. Formerip (talk) 00:45, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Oldest universities
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Filtering
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Overly anal
That's fine. I guess I was just being anal. Lighthead...KILLS!! 17:58, 8 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I have no idea what you are talking about. Did I leave a comment somewhere some time ago? Formerip (talk) 18:01, 8 August 2012 (UTC)


 * You modified my edit on the Morrissey page. I just did that a couple hours ago. I was just stating that I was being a perfectionist. I put that reference in both places because I wanted to cover both bases since being a vegetarian and being involved in animal rights are not exclusively dependent on each other. It doesn't matter, though. The way you modified it, at the very least, I've seen done normally. Whether it's a guideline, I'm not sure. I'm not an avid reader of the Wikipedia guidelines. Lighthead...KILLS!! 18:11, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Third opinion
Thank you for taking the time to read through the discussion. I will add a draft to the talk page shortly. 85.167.111.129 (talk) 11:18, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

clarification
Hi - need to clear this up -

Comment. Just for the avoidance of uncertainty, I indent "talkspace" in the diff cited by YRC to mean generally "the spaces where we talk", rather than specifically pages that begin "talk:". Formerip (talk) 17:41, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

what do you mean exactly - would your comment restrict me from commenting on the Talk:Julian Assange - about detail connected to the living person Julian Assange? You really  can  17:47, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * No, but part (2) of how I described the restriction would apply on Talk:Julian Assange. If somebody had asked for a source giving the exact shade of his hair colour and you found it, that would be fine. But you wouldn't be allowed to say "we must not mention his hair colour as I believe this to be contrary to WP:BLP". As Anthony suggested, though, you should be careful about not crossing the line accidentally.
 * The reason for my clarification was just to make it clear that, for example, User talk:FormerIP counts as "talkspace", even though some editors might think of it as "userspace". Formerip (talk) 17:53, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok - thanks - then your clarification doesn't affect/change my offer - that is ok with me - regards - and thanks - You  really  can  18:03, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Pussy Riot
hello, I'm trying to work on and improve the Pussy Riot article, so that it's balanced and doesn't read like a propaganda/press release from Pussy Riot's supporters. Article needs much more balance and needs more NPOV including comments from the Russian Church officials and Russian people, etc. that are not in support of Pussy Riot's conduct. Now news outlets have stopped calling it a "performance" and are referring to it as an "anti-Putin rant". See what I mean? The article as it stands needs work to make it NPOV, that's what I'm trying to do. Thanks!MickeyDonald (talk) 20:52, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I have now blocked Solomeo8812 for 24 hours but next time please try to warn people of the 3RR rule before reporting them for edit warring. Blocking them is not a punitive action after they have broken the rules but it's rather a preventive measure. Cheers, De728631 (talk) 13:22, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

David R. Hawkins
David R. Hawkins-I believe you may have called an individual out for inappropriate actions on this article in the deletion process. Article abuse and malice by this one user; inappropriate deletion of the articles material and information based on one user's bias and previous attempts to have the article deleted. Iconoclast.Horizon (talk) 22:09, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * There were no inappropriate actions, sorry. I called a user out for nominating the article for speedy deletion then removing a large amount of sourced content, which would have made the article look like a better candidate for deletion. However, the speedy nomination had already been rejected before the content was deleted, so there was no issue. My mistake entirely. Formerip (talk) 02:02, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Re. VP discussion on WQA
I'm sure you're probably wondering about this. You see, I also spend portions of my time answering questions on Yahoo! Answers, and sometimes I copy/paste the titles of questions I have every intention of posting on, but am simply too busy to do so at the time. I had posted that there thinking I was cutting/pasting my previous comment. Sorry for the confusion that must have caused &mdash; but damn, was that ever an awkward misstep. Kurtis (talk) 02:36, 22 August 2012 (UTC)


 * No problem at all. I had guessed it would be something like that. Formerip (talk) 10:35, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I have a habit of saving the names of questions I intend to answer later on a Word document. Lol, I should think the Village Pump is perhaps not the best place for an angsty teen to have a meltdown. xD
 * Anyways, take care. =) Kurtis (talk) 13:38, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

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Your third opinion at Heights of presidents and presidential candidates of the United States
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Joyce Banda
Seeking advice. Should I take the 'numbering' dispute to DRN? GoodDay (talk) 18:56, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Followup RFC to WP:RFC/AAT now in community feedback phase
Hello. As a participant in Requests for comment/Abortion article titles, you may wish to register an opinion on its followup RFC, Requests for comment/Abortion advocacy movement coverage, which is now in its community feedback phase. Please note that WP:RFC/AAMC is not simply a repeat of WP:RFC/AAT, and is attempting to achieve better results by asking a more narrowly-focused, policy-based question of the community. Assumptions based on the previous RFC should be discarded before participation, particularly the assumption that Wikipedia has or inherently needs to have articles covering generalized perspective on each side of abortion advocacy, and that what we are trying to do is come up with labels for that. Thanks! —chaos5023 20:28, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Karen Kavanagh
Hello, just letting you know I removed the prod from the above article as it was previously proposed for deletion. Thank you. Rotten regard      Softnow  00:05, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Search engine test
Answered your comment of one year ago. It might be useful to add one or two specific examples of this to the tutorial. Please don't hesitate to suggest any potential examples of certain words/phrases/sources for restricting-searches-to and/or eliminating from search results that would be useful additions to the tutorial. LittleBen (talk) 05:52, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

SG New Message!
Hi, I have replied here: Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard --Tito Dutta (talk) 19:04, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

COMMONS:PEOPLE
Thanks for chipping in over there. Could you please have a look at and  and leave a comment as to whether that does or doesn't hit the mark? I think it works, because the context is established by what is there already, but YMMV. Regards, Andreas JN 466 19:03, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Re. your comment here
Hi FormerIP, in your comment regarding my answers to Cunard, you say that I express my opinions about certain things instead of indicating how I would act as an admin; now, this will probably make me look even dumber, but I'm not sure what questions you are referring to. From my interpretation of Cunard's questions, in most cases, I was asked for my opinion about various issues (with the exception of how I would have closed Articles for deletion/Jill Kelley, to which my answer was that I would not have closed the discussion, but rather voted "delete")... Salvio Let's talk about it! 20:21, 4 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't think you actually said "I would not have closed the discussion". Scuse me if I have misread, but I guess you've clarified now anyway. I think there are a couple of other similar examples, though maybe not in the same section. Don't dwell on it too much - I'm not even sure if I will get round to voting or not. Formerip (talk) 20:27, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No, you did not misread, I did not explicitly write that. Eh, in my head, I thought I was being clear... Only there, probably... That said, since I had misinterpreted part of Gabe's question, I was curious to know if I had also been dumb elsewhere. Cheers. Salvio  Let's talk about it! 20:47, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Bob Dylan?
You have me totally stumped with your allusion to Bob Dylan in response to my Ruthenian/French complaint to Kiril on the fall of the Ukrainian government at ITN. (I have never been a fan of his for some reason.) Could you explain briefly? Thanks. :) μηδείς (talk) 21:17, 4 December 2012 (UTC)


 * How many times can a man use the word... It sounds like a line from a lost verse to a song of his. Formerip (talk) 21:44, 4 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I suppose the "how many times" should have been obvious. μηδείς (talk) 23:14, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Rosie
Please consider my request here. Thanks. David in DC (talk) 22:43, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Oops, sorry!
I reverted your edit on Rosie Huntington-Whitely as vandalism by accident. I meant to good-faith revert it and explain that the Vogue bio you referenced is actually a loose paragraph of an older version of the article. Sorry again!  Mbinebri  talk &larr; 23:24, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem but, as I've just noted on the article talk page, there may still be a CIRCULAR issue. Formerip (talk) 23:48, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I've tried to address the circular issue and the copyright issue. Please see what you think.  I understand that, even if those two are mooted, the overall delete/retain discussion is still open.
 * I've pled for additional input from our colleagues on the BLP Noticeboard. Thanks for collaborating collegially. It's becoming increasingly uncommon hereabouts. David in DC (talk) 13:42, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Fast Followers
The term, "Fast Follower" is a highly technical term. I believe only the prime minister of New Zealand has the academic and political acumen to understand the full meaning and nuances of the term. :-)

Thank you for scrubbing the doha climate conference page. It reads much better after your pass. --Justanonymous (talk) 20:25, 9 December 2012 (UTC)