User talk:Forthegypsies

A belated welcome!
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Again, welcome! DanielRigal (talk) 20:55, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Just a couple of things though...
--DanielRigal (talk) 21:00, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Please take care when removing content or adding unreferenced content. The idea is to build on what we have and not to replace good stuff, even if it is with other good stuff. For example, the background info on the members of YHCHI is good content. If anything we need a bit more of it rather than less. Generally speaking, an article about artists will benefit from some information about where they trained and what their qualifications are.
 * 2) Please can you try to remember to provide an edit summary saying what you have done and why. It doesn't have to be anything fancy but it helps people to understand why you are doing things. If you find you keep on forgetting to do this then you can set an option in the settings to prompt you when you save an edit without an edit summary.

Important
Hi. I didn't want to give you the generic warning against removal of content but I do feel that you are making a big mistake in your approach to the YHCHI article and you need to rethink. It is important to understand that Wikipedia is not a place for fan writing or for people and organisations to present their own view of themselves. An artist's background is relevant information and we should cover it whenever solid information is available. The only good reason to remove the basic biographical info would be if it was unreliable, not that it does not fit the artists' image. I appreciate that it does, slightly, undermine the almost anonymous image that YHCHI like to project but I am afraid this is just how it goes. It is not like this information is in any way defamatory or damaging. It is a bit like the Gilbert and George article revealing their surnames. If we had a reliable source for Banksy's real name we would include that as well. It is not for Wikipedia to engage in original research on these subjects but if reliable sources have cover them then the cat is already out of the bag and we should include any information that is relevant in order to make articles as informative as possible. If we let artists be written about on their own terms then soon it would be everybody wanting to write their own article and that would make Wikipedia useless to everybody. I hope you now understand why we do things this way. I am afraid that I must press the point ask you not to remove information from any article if it is relevant and reliably sourced. --DanielRigal (talk) 22:35, 2 June 2012 (UTC)