User talk:Fovean Author

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Don't copyvio
Please be more careful with your contributions. The last paragraph of this edit of yours was a copyright violation of the LA Times article you were citing. You either have to directly quote (as you did in the paragraph before) or write in your own words. As an author yourself, you should understand. Wasted Time R 03:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC) P.S.  The material was cleaned up and relocated to Hillary_Rodham_Clinton_presidential_campaign%2C_2008, where it belongs for now. If this turns out to be a story with legs, it can go into the main article.

Your edits....
I'm not going to revert your most recent reverts of Reid-Limabugh Letter and Hillary Clinton. I'm going to let someone else do that, and hopefully you'll see that your edits go against consensus. And hopefully someone will explain why they violate WP:NPOV, WP:WEIGHT, etc. If no one explains this, maybe I'll take it up, but I don't have time to right now. Maybe you could save everyone a little time by reading these policies yourself, and then reconsider your edits.

I also suggest reading wikipedia's guideline on conflicts of interest, as your editing of Fovean chronicles appears to run afoul of it. Also on the topic of Fovean chronicles, note that it does not appear to meet wikipedia's notability standards for books, and unless the article is improved to demonstrated the notability of the books, then it is liable to be nominated for deletion. Finally, your username might be inappropriate: "Usernames that match the name of a company or group, especially if the user promotes it" are considered inappriate.

I suggest reading up on what wikipedia is and is not and consider changing your editing style accordingly. The articles I've linked above would be a good place to start. Yilloslime (t) 01:15, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Reid-Limbaugh letter controversy
I have removed your most recent addition(s) to the Reid-Limbaugh letter controversy, for two reasons. First, the (unnecessarily) lengthy quote you inserted is not properly cited. The Boston Globe article that is linked contains no such quote; please familiarize yourself with wikipedia's verifiability policy. In addition, you've included editorial opinions slamming Reid in a strident, biased tone completely unsuitable for an encyclopedia. Please familiarize yourself with wikipedia's NPOV policy before continuing to edit on wikipedia.-Hal Raglan 04:50, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Tvoz | talk 08:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Well over 3RR
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Tvoz | talk 08:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Fovean chronicles
An editor has nominated Fovean chronicles, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not"). Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you. Yilloslime (t) 16:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Regarding this edit: if you are accusing me and Hal of being the same person I can assure we are not. If you'd like persue this more, you could file a report at WP:SSP or a request for checkuser, but I assure that you it wouldn't get much traction, and in the end it will only draw more attention to your problematic editing, and in particular your conflict of interest. And believe me, this in not a "vindictive effort." Why would I need vindication? After all, your edits to Reid-Limbaugh letter controversy and Hillary Rodham Clinton have been roundly rejected by the WP community, so there is really nothing for me to feel vindictive about. The reason I've AfDed Fovean chronicles is because the article doesn't belong here on WP. The book is simply not notable enough yet. Seeing your edits to Reid-Limbaugh letter controversy, I checked your edit history, and that's how found the Fovean article. So that's how I found it, but I would have AfDed it had a stumbled upon it some other way, and I would AfDed it even if we were friends. If I were on vindictive witch hunt against you, I wouldn't have notified you of the AfD nomination, I probably would have canvassed Hal and other users that you've clashed with, and I also would have reported you to the  Conflict-of-interest Noticeboard and the Username Noticeboard. Instead, I brought these various violations of wikipolicy to your attention, hoping that you might realize the error of you ways, and change your editing. So far you have only proven me wrong. The bottom line is that wikipedia is not a battleground or a forum to promote your book. If that's all you've come here to do, then I'd invite you to leave. If on the other hand, after reviewing our five pillars, you decide that you'd like to make appropriate contributions to WP, then I'd invite to please stay and do so. You might want to change your username and stay away from Fovean related articles (including the AfD--it's not too late to recuse yourself, and strike your vote). I can help you do both these things if you don't know how. Yilloslime (t) 23:40, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

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Copyright violation
Please do not add copyrighted content to articles on Wikipedia as you did here. The content you added seems to be a direct lift from here. If you continue to add copyrighted material to Wikipedia you may be blocked from editing on Wikipedia. --Bobblehead (rants) 02:04, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

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 * To follow up on the above, you indicated that this picture was public domain and taken from the drudge report. However, the original was a copyrighted photo taken by AP.  As such, it's not public domain and we can't use it under that rationale.  Images from the internet are rarely public domain; you may want to take a look at Image use policy.-- Kubigula (talk) 04:26, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Barack Obama
Regarding your reversion of edits to this article, please be aware that you may be in or nearing violation of WP:3RR. →Wordbuilder (talk) 21:00, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

March 2008
Constructive contributions are appreciated and strongly encouraged, but your recent edit to the userpage of another user may be considered vandalism. If you are the user, please log in under that account and proceed to make the changes. Please use the sandbox for any tests you may want to do. Take a look at our introduction page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. -- Scjessey (talk) 16:22, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Editing someone else's user page like you did is a major no-no. Wasted Time R (talk) 16:39, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey - I'm not the one who put that picture on there. Fovean Author (talk) 17:39, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


 * That comment is an attack as well. You really should step back. →Wordbuilder (talk) 17:33, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

About consensus
Hi, Fovean Author. I noticed that in an edit to Jeremiah Wright you said, "consensus isn't a Wikipedia criterion." I'm not sure where you got this idea from, but it is completely incorrect. Consensus is a core policy of Wikipedia, and has been since its founding. Without getting into the details of the discussions on Jeremiah Wright, I just wanted to point out in my capacity as an administrator that consensus is the backbone of Wikipedia's collaborative editing process, and should be granted due respect. Of course, consensus can change, but that doesn't mean that reaching consensus isn't the ultimate goal. Please take some time to refamiliarize yourself with Wikipedia's policies. Thank you. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 16:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Fovean, thanks for helping make Jeremiah Wright more neutral. I see a biased editor is trying to bully and threaten you in his "capacity as an administrator". CarlosRodriguez (talk) 16:37, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The comment above was neither a threat nor a bullying tactic, but a reminder about a core Wikipedia policy which Fovean Author seemed to have forgotten. If you have a problem with my edits or my administrative actions, please let me know on my talk page.  Thank you. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 03:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Wikipedia without explaining the valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits.  Grsz  11  00:34, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution.

Obama and Patraeus
You might want to watch this if you really think Obama didn't ask questions.  Grsz  11  04:20, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Wright
There's a difference between not liking something, and deleting a bunch of unnecessary demographics used to try to push your POV. Stop now.  Grsz  talk  02:22, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Attacks
Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. . MastCell Talk 23:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Blocked
- for 24 hours for edit warring across numerous articles including Barrack Obama. Please use the template if you wish to contest this block. Scarian Call me Pat!  16:37, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text below. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 00:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

It's 3 rr's to be a war, not two.

Sockpuppetry case
You have been accused of sockpuppetry. Please refer to Suspected sock puppets/Kossack4Truth for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with notes for the suspect before editing the evidence page.

June 2008
This edit was extremely unhelpful. It is very uncivil. By accusing people dealing with your misbehavior on the project as "Obama apologists" and "slavish attitude of admitted left-wing Wikipedia administrators who support them" you are assuming bad faith and simply trying to provoke people. You are accusing Jossi, one of Wikipedia's most prominent administrators, of lack of integrity, and accusing another user of "harassment." I'm not sure that this is blockable behavior in itself, but in considering future blocks based on your pattern of edit warring, this attitude towards the project may come into play as indicating that you do not mean to edit constructively. If you have something constructive to contribute to the article, or the sockpuppetry allegations against you, please go ahead.Wikidemo (talk) 03:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, you will be blocked from editing. Edit warring,vandalism, and general disruptiveness,STOP! Xp54321  ( Vandals Beware!!!, Contribs ) 03:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Vandalism is adding slander or something that's not true. Look up Obama Gaffes if you can figure out how - he said every single thing I quoted him on. Fovean Author (talk) 03:04, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

This comment, and your recurring disruption, may only result in further blocks. Any further such disruption will result in one week block, escalating to one month and so on. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 03:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Personal attacks
Comments like "You need to let some honesty drip down onto your messiah" are unacceptable. Please stop. If you continue to make personal attacks on other people as you did at Talk:Barack Obama, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Thank you. Shem(talk) 03:32, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Edit warring
You are edit warring in an effort to add disputed content to Barack Obama. This is not going to be tolerated, and it's not about 3RR. New content should be discussed on the article talk page, particularly when it's a fairly trivial campaign detail that you are trying to add to a politician's biographical article. At the very least, if you add new content and it gets reverted, take that as a sign that there is not agreement and you need to talk it out and refrain from efforts to edit war it back in. Consider this your only warning on the matter.--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 02:45, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

You have things backwards.
Your most recent edit summary, "If you don't like the information, discuss its removal," shows a clear misunderstanding of how consensus-building and Talk pages work on Wikipedia. We don't insert controversial material via edit warring while demanding others argue with us on Talk; it's you who carries the burden to discuss the addition of material, not the other way around. Shem(talk) 02:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Barack Obama
FA, I'm taking a 30-day Wikibreak from the topic of Barack Obama, but I'd like to continue visiting you on your Talk page. Rely on moderators like Bigtimepeace. If there is breaking campaign news, I see no reason why it shouldn't be added to the article immediately, but be careful to do it using strictly neutral language. And be prepared to discuss and modify afterward. For any other addition of material that is not breaking news, always discuss it first on the Talk page and obtain consensus.

We have a truce based on an initiative started by Wikidemo. The truce agreement is here. Please sign on as I have done. Right now the only edit warrior who hasn't signed is User:Life.temp, and I can argue that he/she is headed for a topic ban. Please do not allow anyone to put you in the same category as LT. Sign on for the truce and let them be the ones who break it.

JJB has an excellent initiative based on the Ron Paul article and he deserves your consistent, calm and non-combative support. Kossack4Truth (talk) 11:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I have a correction. The actual initiator of that truce was User:Shem. Kossack4Truth (talk) 11:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Please do not make accusations against admins lightly. User:Bigtimepeace could become part of the solution at Barack Obama but you must not alienate him with these accusations. Give him/her some time to show what he/she can do. Kossack4Truth (talk) 13:29, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry case
You have been accused of sockpuppetry. Please refer to Suspected sock puppets/Fovean Author for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with notes for the suspect before editing the evidence page. Shem(talk) 02:20, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Blocked
in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text below. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 03:20, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

If I were trying to post under an IP and a user name as a sock puppet, why in God's name would I IMMEDIATELY post, after using the IP, "Whoops - sorry, forgot to log in" and identify myself? Isn't that specifically the effort of someone trying NOT to be considered a sock puppet (which is why I did it)? Based on the remarkable speed with which this block was begun and completed, I assert that jossi and shem got together and said, "Let's work together and remove this person so that we don't have to hear his counter-arguments." Clearly I was given absolutely no time to defend myself (exactly 1 hour). Fovean Author (talk) 02:38, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * See Suspected_sock_puppets/Fovean_Author. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 02:46, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes - it is an accusation of sock puppetry. Sock puppetry is an attempt to disguise myself as one ID.  Disguise implies that I don't want you to know that I am both persons.  Explain to me how I am doing that, if I say, "Whoops - sorry, didn't mean to post under the IP, here I am as the actual person."  The other accusation that I'm posting under the IP to insert negative material would imply that I behaved differently when logged in, which just isn't true.  You, josi, clearly went to Shem, told him to enter the complain, then immediately (within an hour) approved it.  Fovean Author (talk) 02:54, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

It seems to me that his behavior has been improving lately, although clearly there's still some work to do in that regard. No repeat of the vandalism on a User page on March 19. The circumstances here do suggest that action was taken with undue haste, and Jossi's judgment may have been affected by his/her recent encounter with Andyvphil. The only alleged sockpuppet incident is in an AfD vote back in March (which had absolutely zero chance of affecting the outcome) and FA may have simply forgotten that he had already voted. Despite Shem's careful scouring (I'm sure) of the edit histories of both FA and the IP address, he/she could find no repeat of this incident. It is now three months later.

I suggest that a six-month block is overkill, and that it should be reduced to one or two weeks. Kossack4Truth (talk) 12:08, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Blocks are preventative, and not punitive. As such, I am willing to reduce this block to two weeks, with one caveat: Any further disruption, be that a personal attack, tendentious editing or any other disruptive behavior, shall result in an indef block. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 17:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I am not volunteering for the job, but I would recommend getting a more neutral observer than Kossack4Truth to comment on whether the other reasons for the block are valid. Tvoz / talk 17:56, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with Tvoz, Jossi. User:Fovean Author has shown zero willingness to contribute anything other than personal attacks and disruption to the project.  Just look at Fovean Author's immediate response to being blocked -- he admits nothing whatsoever wrong with his behavior, opting to accuse you of persecuting him for his POV and engaging in fraudulent collusion.  Fovean Author can take the election season off, and if he truly cares about the project, he'll be back to contribute in six months. Shem(talk) 18:38, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with Tvoz and Shem, too. I encountered this user months ago at Media Matters for America and Phony soldiers controversy and have had this talkpage watchlisted every since. His behavior was problematic them, and it seems to only have gotten worse now that he's moved on to Obama related pages. As far as I can tell, the only lasting content contribution he has made is this edit to USS Truxtun (CGN-35). This user doesn't see why his behavior is problematic, and seems to view WP as a battleground, even after being warned  and blocked repeatedly. 6 months is justified—we can only be so patient and give people so much slack... Yilloslime (t) 19:12, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

<< Tvoz, Shem, Yilloslime, I hear you. But I will still consider reducing the block to two weeks, if Fovean Author makes a commitment not to persist with his past behavior, and with the understanding that of he does, he will be blocked permanently after the first re-occurrence. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 02:34, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

After my experience here, I think that I can honestly say that I've lost any respect that I might have had for Wikipedia as an information source and, should I ever decide I need to post here again, I'll simply do it under a different IP and user name.

Persons like those who gathered here to engineer a block for me, and persons like 'slime,' could care less about the factual accuracy or integrity of the articles here, simply want to push their agenda, and they have the free-time resources to do so. Persons like myself, with jobs and lives, will NEVER be able to compete with them.

I do regret that I once, in a moment of pique, changed scjessey's user page - an action which was beneath me - but even that tells me of the potential of this 'community' to draw one in to its immature nature and irrelevancy.

So, in a nutshell, josi, take your block and your forgiveness and shove it up your severely puckered rectum, if you can find room for it, and continue with your left wing cabal to maintain Wikipedia as irrelevant and pointless as it curently is. Do nothing to prevent obvious Obama supporters to sanitize his appearance here, and then go on to your other liberal icons to do the same thing. My time actually has a value to it, and yours clearly does not. Fovean Author (talk) 15:41, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * "I'll simply do it under a different IP and user name"
 * I'm glad to hear that you now regret vandalizing my user page and I accept your apology (as Colbert would say), but are you now signaling your intention to engage in sock puppetry in the future, possibly by spoofing your IP address in an attempt to avoid a checkuser request? -- Scjessey (talk) 15:57, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Fovean Author can edit under a new name or anon if wants, but he needs to be aware of SOCK and what does it mean. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 16:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Please read and heed
See this closing of the socking case. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 23:58, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

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